Whats Going on in Atlanta?!? SCG legacy results

[apple713]

All of this seems very odd to me

Omni-Tell 1st <--- dont think this has happened before
Shardless BUG 2nd <----only 1 in top 16
Burn 3rd <----cant remember the last time this happened let alone placing 3rd...talk about not having barriers to entry think this deck is like $40
U/W/R Delver 4th
Merfolk 5th <-----maybe they are coming back? Surprised though with 2x burn in top 16
U/R Delver 6th
RUG Delver 7th
Jund 8th
W/B Stoneblade 9th
Painted Stone 10th
Grixis Delver 11th
RUG Delver 12th
Sneak and Show 13th <--- Blood Moon Main ... really?
Sneak and Show 14th
Omni-Tell 15th
Burn 16th <---- second one in top 16

decklists
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/deckshow.php?t%5BT2%5D=3&event_ID=20&feedin=&start_date=2013-09-15&end_date=2013-09-15&city=Atlanta&state=&country=&start=1&finish=16&exp=&p_first=&p_last=&simple_card_name%5B1%5D=&simple_card_name%5B2%5D=&simple_card_name%5B3%5D=&simple_card_name%5B4%5D=

[danyul]

Looks fine to me.

What kind of Top 8 would you have preferred, oh wise greybearded elder wizard? How doth your vision for Emeril Legacy differ from the reality of what is, what was, and what forever shall be?

[Tylert]

I like how the top 16 of SCG opens changes every week...
Yes Omni tell is a bad deck, Burn also and you probably need some luck to top 8 such an event... but whatever. the important point is that we have a varied meta.
I'm excited when i read the results every week, compared to the standard top 8 or Modern top 8...

[Gheizen64]

What you really need to notice is how all those decks are the same deck in reality, brainstorm decks. This is not a sign of a varied format. Look at Modern to see how a format can be really varied, especially the latest GP.




Good job Wotc.

[Darkenslight]

What you really need to notice is how all those decks are the same deck in reality, brainstorm decks. This is not a sign of a varied format. Look at Modern to see how a format can be really varied, especially the latest GP.




Good job Wotc.

...OF the Top 8, 5 have Brainstorm. Nearly half of the top 16 (6, to be precise), however, do not. Those decks are:

Burn
Merfolk
Jund
Orzhov Stoneblade
Painted Stone
and Burn.

I'd say that, whilst it could be more varied, the meta is decent enough. For feature matches, we saw around 14 different decks. I'd say that the meta has evolved from Deathblade/anti-Deathblade that it was onyl a couple of weeks ago.

[Dan Turner]

What you really need to notice is how all those decks are the same deck in reality, brainstorm decks. This is not a sign of a varied format. Look at Modern to see how a format can be really varied, especially the latest GP.




Good job Wotc.


are we looking at the same decklist?

top 8
Burn
Merfolk
Jund

not 1 brainstorm in those 3 decks.


I really think its cool that a low cost deck like burn made it though. Even Merfolk being a 0 dual/fetchland makes it relatively low cost at under $1000. A lot less if your patient and willing to hunt down bargains.

I think these results do show 1 thing, how the meta is evolving to use less duals. It used to be that a deck ran full playsets of duals/fetches to be competitive and now you have less than 30 duals combined in the top 8

[jandax]

I guess it's time for Imperial Painter to drop Blood Moon :cool:

[lordofthepit]

...OF the Top 8, 5 have Brainstorm. Nearly half of the top 16 (6, to be precise), however, do not. Those decks are:

Burn
Merfolk
Jund
Orzhov Stoneblade
Painted Stone
and Burn.

I'd say that, whilst it could be more varied, the meta is decent enough. For feature matches, we saw around 14 different decks. I'd say that the meta has evolved from Deathblade/anti-Deathblade that it was onyl a couple of weeks ago.


are we looking at the same decklist?

top 8
Burn
Merfolk
Jund

not 1 brainstorm in those 3 decks.


I really think its cool that a low cost deck like burn made it though. Even Merfolk being a 0 dual/fetchland makes it relatively low cost at under $1000. A lot less if your patient and willing to hunt down bargains.

I think these results do show 1 thing, how the meta is evolving to use less duals. It used to be that a deck ran full playsets of duals/fetches to be competitive and now you have less than 30 duals combined in the top 8

He's being sarcastic.

If you're not aware, the Modern GP he's referring to has 6 copies of Jund in the top 8.

[Dan Turner]

He's being sarcastic.

If you're not aware, the Modern GP he's referring to has 6 copies of Jund in the top 8.

See thats the issue I pay just enough attention to modern to see how its affecting legacy staples. About the same attention I pay to standard.

[Megadeus]

The meta was full of super greedy fair decks allowing price of progress to absolutely wreck decks. I was talking to the friend of the guy who top 8d with burn and he said that he could get fetches or two more chain lightning to play so he just played basics and a couple of young pyromancers LOL. Price of progress is a hell ofa card. I met a shardless BUG player who said that he was boarding two basic lands lol. Overall the meta was extremely diverse. I think I played vs 7 different archetypes and that's only because I played vs three delver decks, but even then I played vs URW RUG and Grixis delver.

[Koby]

All of this seems very odd to me

Omni-Tell 1st <--- dont think this has happened before


First, let's use some critical thinking. Look at the past two months of Legacy SCG results. Look at the event since M14, since Dragon's Maze to get an idea of what has been played.

Secondly, OmniTell won Bazaar of Moxen in May. Nothing substantial has changed in the Legacy format since Gatecrash.

[(nameless one)]

Looks fine to me.

What kind of Top 8 would you have preferred, oh wise greybearded elder wizard? How doth your vision for Emeril Legacy differ from the reality of what is, what was, and what forever shall be?

Maybe he wanted the top 8 to have 6 G/B/x Midrange decks and two decks that prey on it

[nedleeds]

We're calling deadguy Orzhov now? I quit.

[haganbmj]

The meta was full of super greedy fair decks allowing price of progress to absolutely wreck decks. I was talking to the friend of the guy who top 8d with burn and he said that he could get fetches or two more chain lightning to play so he just played basics and a couple of young pyromancers LOL. Price of progress is a hell ofa card. I met a shardless BUG player who said that he was boarding two basic lands lol. Overall the meta was extremely diverse. I think I played vs 7 different archetypes and that's only because I played vs three delver decks, but even then I played vs URW RUG and Grixis delver.

You got the diversity and I got 3 Goblins players.
(Playing GW Maverick w/ Stoneforge & 2 mainboard Scavenging Ooze)
Round 1 (0-2) v Burn
Round 2 (2-1) v UWR Stoneblade
Round 3 (1-2) v Shardless BUG
Round 4 (2-0) v Goblins
Round 5 (2-0) v Fish
Round 6 (2-1) v Goblins
Round 7 (2-1) v UG 12-Post
Round 8 (0-2) v Goblins (drew 8 lands out of 9 cards g1 after he mulled to 5)
Round 9 (2-0) v RUG Delver

All in all though the room looked pretty varied. There were a ton more Fish players than usual (and that might be what helped one top 8), and it seemed like there was less Storm than usual for Altanta with many people opting for Show and Tell or Sneak Attack based strategies instead. Everyone seemed aware of the prevalence of Blood Moon and the numbers lived up to expectations, lot of Moons and a lot of ways to play through Moons.
Shardless BUG seemed well represented and most people appeared to be on the UWR Delver or UWR Stoneblade variants instead of the other alternatives.

[Darkenslight]

We're calling deadguy Orzhov now? I quit.

Well, it has very little of the mana denial plan that Deadguy Ale has (no GQ+Vindicate shenanigans), and it's WB and it has Stoneforge+blades. That's why I called it Orzhov. If I'm wrong in my thinking, I'm more than happy to be corrected on it.

[Koby]

Well, it has very little of the mana denial plan that Deadguy Ale has (no GQ+Vindicate shenanigans), and it's WB and it has Stoneforge+blades. That's why I called it Orzhov. If I'm wrong in my thinking, I'm more than happy to be corrected on it.

I prefer to call it Oreos Cookies n Cream ShitBlade. But that's hard to put in a feature match video.

[alphastryk]

Well, I wasn't able to play in this one, but we typically have a lot of burn & merfolk here, so nothing too surprising going on.

[thecrav]

We're calling deadguy Orzhov now? I quit.

They went out of their way to point out that SCGLive is strictly PG... I guess playing a deck named after a beer is too PG-21?

[nedleeds]

The play was awful anyway, Merfolk of the Pearl Trident raised his gills again in one of the matches and I just shut it off ...

RE: Orzhov, that's fair. It does have green sources though to power DRS. I just looked at the list and it looks like he'd never draw enough land to do anything; 20 lands; one miser's top; no cantrips. I'd think over 8-9 rounds he'd get mana screwed but some people are just born champions.

[nedleeds]

Well, I wasn't able to play in this one, but we typically have a lot of burn & merfolk here, so nothing too surprising going on.

The south is historically poor and full of WalMarts, I always see quite a bit of burn at the Atlanta SCGs as well. At least the guy who top 8'ed called his deck Walmart Burn. I'm pretty sure I coined that name.

[DragoFireheart]

I like how Burn made top 3 but some people still like to disregard it.

[Megadeus]

Burn is bad. Price of Progress is just a hell of a card