[Article]Eternal Europe: Brewing Ambrosia

[Mon,Goblin Chief]

Well, the full Theros spoiler is out, so... :D

http://www.starcitygames.com/article/26966_Brewing-Ambrosia.html

Enjoy and let me know what you think :)

[ScatmanX]

Nice write up. Too bad it pretty much says: "no card will see play", and I agree.
The U God is my only bet.

[Lemnear]

Never thought that Swan's Song could be a card for Miracles ... might test. Too bad it's already a Hype-card and too expensive to simply get a set for fun. :/

[Einherjer]

It is a good card for Miracles. It is a good card against Miracles.
It is a good card for Sneak and Show. It is a good card against Sneak and show.

I really like that card :)

Good article.

Greetings

[Lemnear]

It is a good card for Miracles. It is a good card against Miracles.
It is a good card for Sneak and Show. It is a good card against Sneak and show.

I really like that card :)

Good article.

Greetings

I called the card crap outside of combo decks. Maybe I should have considered Swan's Song a real skill-tester for players running it, repeatingly question themselves "Is this spell THAT backbreaking that I want to counter it with Swan's Song?". With it sadly not being able to touch creatures it's still questionable if Flusterstorm isn't better.

[alastair]

I knew this Friday’s article would be a disappointment, but you’ve got to work with what you’ve been given. You made a very relevant point at the start, it’s good to have stability for a while, without our recent flying U-Nacatli and Bargain friends. The article was far better than I expected…… not sure how you managed it really. I don't feel bad missing pre-release at all.

Thanks

[Fatal]

Except some Swang Song in few sideboards and only in few constructions I don't see actually any card place in recent constructions, good written article but I'm very sceptically about those constructions. Here are the reasons:

Eightcast Affinity - Lets look closer on Warriors' Lesson - it's conditional (require two attacking and not blocked creature deals combat damage to a player) - so any removal, any creature, and and counter can stop it, and what is best if non of them happens - we get Thoughtcast, I can see its just bad, drawing in late is awful, without meeting conditions it will be just sitting on hand. It's just probably only win-more card, I would rather run Glimpse of Nature in affnity and get more value from it then from Warriors' Lesson.

The Song will see play specially in Vintage (that is sure) - 1 mana stack action (not awful Beast Within) updated Annul - yes. Interesting case that It also push down the Oath's since its works perfectly vs Oath (similar like Mental Missteps works vs itself) which was mention in article.

Tymaret, the Murder King - is just too mana costly for Eternal formats.

Gift of Immortality - this is interesting card maybe if find place as some tier-3 and casual use (for sure EDH), but since its an aura it will be very hard to beeing playable in Legacy. In almost all new age (I don't count T1.5 times and old Extended) legacy history we had one deck which works - Natural Order Pattern of Rebirth with Protean Hulk finish, and even there Pattern was as ads to Natural Order consistence.

Thassa is for sure too overcosted as scry 1 function - Miracles don't have time to tapout in their turn which isn't bring anything game breaking (Jace, Etreat the Angels). The 5/5 conditional body is probably rather useless here, and most decks will have to use their swords to plowshares with happiness that they aren't dead on their hands.

Hero's Downfall - it will find place somewhere in 75 The Gate vs plainswalkers.

Ashen Rider - as replacement of Angel of Dispair

Destructive Revelry - replaces Ancient Grudge in Zoo which is almost dead already.

So as I said good article but sadly nothing going to change after Theros released in Legacy.

[Lemnear]

Annul at least counters artifacts and Artifact-creatures :/

[Fatal]

Right I miss read it :/ its worst then I thought. So only good for Oath MD, worst then Annul since it can't work vs MUD.

[Sloshthedark]

No love for Daxos? that guy seems interesting imo, no certain application in mind...

[(nameless one)]

No love for Daxos? that guy seems interesting imo, no certain application in mind...

Seems good in EDH and Casual to me.

[Megadeus]

Maybe gift of immorality on a geist of saint traft so you can just repeatedly suicide him into whatever ground force your opponent has?

[Mon,Goblin Chief]

Thanks everybody, happy you enjoyed it :) Sorry for the slow response!

@ScatmanX: no card is a little hard - I'm pretty sure we're going to see Swan Song pop up ;)

@Sloshthedark: I don't think what is basically a worse Shadowmage Infiltrator (fear seems better than can't be blocked by 3+ power, drawing a card is better than lifegain plus one turn access, imo) has any reasonable chance of seeing play, so I ignored it ^^

@Lemnear: Always remember to think of both extremes of the spectrum - what works in combo might have a job in the other (near) creatureless deck ;)

@alastair: Thanks, happy you liked the article even if you don't like the cards :)

@Fatal:

Affinity: You might well be right, but fully powered Thoughtcast is also a pretty sick spell (even if it doesn't always feel like it) so it seems valuable to at least try getting eight into the deck. Warrior's Lesson is rather conditional, so I could just as well see it not working out at all. Glimpse has generally been terrible in Affinity for me, though.
Thassa I could actually see doing something. The effect is reasonably powerful (as mentioned overcosted for three mana, though) but the random option of it waking up in the midgame due to CBs and/or VClique/Jace for a turn to crash into a Jace or Lili could actually prove to be quite relevant also (figured that out after writing the article).
As for Tymaret, well, he's a utility tutor target. The flexibility might well make up for the somewhat clunky cost structure of the cards abilities.

As for Swan Song hitting artifacts, that'd be truly great for Vintage - as is mainly a tool for Oath.

@Megadeus: Probably too cute, but still good thinking :p

[Megadeus]

I actually think it might be good enough against like goblins or maverick. I think it is at least worth testing!

[nedleeds]

Maybe gift of immorality on a geist of saint traft so you can just repeatedly suicide him into whatever ground force your opponent has?

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