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Mati_17
10-26-2013, 11:36 AM
First of all , excuse my bad English .
*****It occurred to me to try this for a while watching the stax of Vintage, but I really do not look much . Because of legacy stax plays mox diamond ( can add mox opal ) and little land coloras (replaceable with gemstone mine and city of brass ) , it occurred to me to try pentacolor . Here we do not have limited vintage cards , but not with the restriction of workshop. The one time I tested recently, I happened to add elements of tezz control. Here the list: http://deck.tk/2ZYL2e9b
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Baleful Strix (great monster , but with welder : card advantage , defense tribute. But ask two colors, thought cut )
2 Thirst for Knowledge
2 Transmute Artifact ( order two colors as strix , but great )
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Ratchet Bomb
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
4 Gemstone Mine
4 City of Brass
3 Wasteland
2 Cavern of Souls
4 Darksteel Citadel
2 Goblin Welder
4 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Opal
1 Nether Void
2 Smokestack
2 Crucible of Worlds
3 Tangle Wire
1 Armageddon
1 Ravages of War
1 Trinisphere ( yes. .. just one. But is searchable and also so no robo 2 )
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Shrapnel Blast
1 Salvage Titan
1 Phyrexian Revoker ( eh thought cut )
1 Trading Post

/ / Sideboard
SB : 1 Meekstone
SB : 1 Grafdigger 's Cage
SB : 1 Pithing Needle
SB 3 Lodestone Golem
SB : 2 Chains of Mephistopheles
SB : 1 In the Eye of Chaos
SB : 2 Karmic Justice
SB : 1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell It
SB : 2 Sylvok Replica
SB : 1 Phyrexian Metamorph

frogger42
10-27-2013, 02:40 PM
I wouldn't bother with more than two colors in Stax. Just a couple notes on the manabase:

City of Brass + Ancient Tomb. You already take a ton of damage off of Tomb, adding more from City is brutal. You're often scraping by just to stabilize, and two Tombs in a game can easily spell loss. Adding more sources of damage is not a strong strategy.

Gemstone Mine + City of Traitors. Now you have two temporary lands. City is hard enough to get by with on its own, and if someone counters your Crucible and leaves you with a Mine or two, now you've lost.

Brass and Mine - No particular synergy with Crucible. You're better off whittling down to two colors (like U and B), and adding Fetchlands, which have great synergy with Crucible.

Mox Opal - You'll need about half your deck to be artifacts for this to come online effectively. Otherwise, it's just a fancy slot that often does nothing.

Cavern - Doesn't help you cast your blue spells. You also don't want to run Transmute Artifact with less than 15 blue sources. You've got 12-13, which is really too little to get UU.


If you run things like Tezz AoB and Baleful Strix, you can add a couple things like Darkwater Catacombs and Dimir Signet to help you get both colors. Though I prefer fetches. But try to keep it at 2 colors. It's only worth having access to a 3rd color for Engineered Explosives, and Mox Diamond does that anyway.

Mati_17
10-28-2013, 02:49 PM
I've always liked the pentacolores, but also always think it's worth what I get for the mana base, maybe if we improve the latter?

4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
4 City of Brass---->Cut
4 Gemstone Mine---->Perhaps they should cut some
3 Wasteland
2 Cavern of Souls---->I have them in case I surprised with welder in hand and chalice 1 in field or if there is a nether void in the field. Maybe the draw could. Or perhaps they get more welder xD
4 Darksteel Citadel---> Cut
1 Mox Opal----> 28 artifacts is half, right? I go through the cabesa out, but even slower to activate, is an artifact that gives mana rainbow and could rule (sed / trading post, etc) or sacrifice (welder, fireplace, etc.)
You could put another pot and Batterskull
1 Undiscovered Paradise/1 Glimmervoid/1 Reflecting Pool (each with their problems, but they give us mana rainbow)
1 Gemstone Caverns ('s wearing a white stax by world should qualify, right?)
1 Crosis's Catacombs (synergy with gemstone mine / city of traitor, but not with pot)
x Seat of the Synod (not indestructible, but gives blue)
x Darkslick Shores
x Tendo Ice Bridge (crazy, but the colored need?)
Chromatic Lantern>>> Dimir Signet (for the 5 colors and for my poor life)
Do not want to put him islands to play chocke or boil. It's a shame you do not replay Sünderin titan, but I see as giving use.
I thought putting a crop rotation, has antisinergia with chalice, but synergy with city of traitor and gemstone mine
The white stax I see in tournaments take no fetch, just half hard would put them and also I would remove life (yes, I'm thinking about the life that brings the fetch)

EDIT:
Hello people! I bring my deck updating
http://deck.tk/1b2I4Bo2
Try to relax the mana base, changing weaknesses and city of brass gemstone mine, by the weaknesses of other lands (but in singleton xD). Would have to test the proportion of land, but that it will take me time xD.
Put a singleton living one wish, it would note that the sideck and modify it a bit to the latter. As we have six temporary land, I decided to get a letter that was sacrificed land and crop rotation (perhaps they change it later by frantic research or boom / bust) this get along with living wish but not with chalice, something to test.

Mati_17
11-04-2013, 08:30 PM
Deck updated and some comments

Megadeus
11-04-2013, 09:43 PM
I feel like you could just be in Grixis and be fine. Just drop Ravages and Geddon from White and Drop the horrid green cards (crop rotation in a deck with 4x Chalice seems especially poor). Living Wish as a 1 of seems undependable. I feel like Intuition is just better than both of these cards anyway if having a toolbox like tutor is what you want.

Mati_17
11-08-2013, 12:27 PM
I feel like you could just be in Grixis and be fine. Just drop Ravages and Geddon from White and Drop the horrid green cards (crop rotation in a deck with 4x Chalice seems especially poor). Living Wish as a 1 of seems undependable. I feel like Intuition is just better than both of these cards anyway if having a toolbox like tutor is what you want.
Living wish is undependable, this i only access the sideck game 1 and for that, at more than one spare
Crop rotation is being tested (chalice), would have to see if it pays, but he change by frantic research or boom/bust
Horrid green cards? Living Wish/Crop rotation/Sylvok Replica/Chocke are great cards
Intuition does not call much attention to waste space, layers are not given use xD
I feel this is really scraping the power of colors with stax.