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stage
11-01-2013, 12:23 AM
Hi, I'm looking to replace my cheap ultra pros with something durable and easy to shuffle. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

[SLAYER]chaos
11-01-2013, 01:12 AM
KMC matte

Kayradis
11-01-2013, 06:36 AM
My little pony.

Purgatory
11-01-2013, 07:17 AM
chaos;762417']KMC matte

+1, they tend to get dirty quickly, but they're very durable.

Lord_Mcdonalds
11-01-2013, 09:04 AM
KMC Mattes are your safest bet.

Dragonshield aren't bad, they are super durable (insofar, I can count on one hand the amount I've had split on me), just they get very ugly quickly and have a tendency of being poorly cut (to the point where I've recieved packs I actually cannot use in tournaments with out getting deck checked/dq), has the side effect of meaning you can't use sleeves from other packs, although that only tends to happen with certain colors

davelin
11-01-2013, 09:13 AM
+1, they tend to get dirty quickly, but they're very durable.

+2

JPoJohnson
11-01-2013, 09:55 AM
I asked this a couple of months ago and ended up going with double sleeved cards:

Inner Sleeve - KMC Perfect Fit
Outer Sleeve - Dragonshield


I love it, and they've been shuffled and played a LOT and they're still looking good. I didn't have any miscuts in the boxes I got (4), but I may have been lucky as I've heard they have miscuts quite often.

allek
11-01-2013, 10:15 AM
Buy the cheapest possible and replace them more often instead. That's what I did after trying KMC, Dragon Shield etc. They all get filthy after a while regardless of price/quality.

(nameless one)
11-01-2013, 10:21 AM
I find these to be of great quality. (https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1422615_212094462303415_1594930524_n.jpg)

Vidi
11-05-2013, 03:47 AM
KMC Perfect Fit & Purple Dragon Shield.

Quasim0ff
11-05-2013, 04:24 AM
KMC super fits + KMC super blacks is my go-to sleeves.

No problems in forever and ever.

Luklinda
11-05-2013, 07:40 AM
I asked this a couple of months ago and ended up going with double sleeved cards:

Inner Sleeve - KMC Perfect Fit
Outer Sleeve - Dragonshield


I love it, and they've been shuffled and played a LOT and they're still looking good. I didn't have any miscuts in the boxes I got (4), but I may have been lucky as I've heard they have miscuts quite often.

Been reading up on the same and ended up opting for KMC Perfect Fit and KMC Hyper Outer because I had store credit built up and they only had 1 box of Dragonshield left. Do the PF sleeves actually slide up as badly as folks claim they do?

Caniki
11-05-2013, 09:18 AM
I find these to be of great quality. (https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1422615_212094462303415_1594930524_n.jpg)

Those aren't out until mid-november, but they're made my Ultra-Pro, so I'd expect them to be of the same quality as all of their other sleeves with pictures on them.


I'm a big fan of the Ultra-Pro Pro-Matte sleeves. They double sleeve well, and they're not slippery like new KMC or DragonShields are.

Madmaniac21
11-05-2013, 10:35 AM
KMC black your entire collection, ez game for building decks/swapping things.

JDK
11-05-2013, 10:43 AM
Inner Sleeve: KMC Perfect Size - not even close. I tried the Ultra Pro ones a year or so ago and they were heavily miscut and just bigger than the KMC
Outer Sleeve: Haven't tried Dragonshield or Legion Gaming (Channel Fireball Sleeves), but I use KMC Matte and Ultra Pro 'Pro Matte' (much easier to shuffle than KMC). As long as you don't use the normal UPs, you should be fine.

JPoJohnson
11-05-2013, 05:37 PM
Been reading up on the same and ended up opting for KMC Perfect Fit and KMC Hyper Outer because I had store credit built up and they only had 1 box of Dragonshield left. Do the PF sleeves actually slide up as badly as folks claim they do?

They were all the same size and sleeved up very nicely for me. I had no issues with either brand of sleeve. They both were great and I was able to use every sleeve that came in four boxes of each (total of 800 sleeves all tournament playable, 400 sleeves of both type).

luckme10
11-05-2013, 09:31 PM
Yanoman Gunmetal Sleeves (100 ct)

Deadpool09
12-19-2013, 07:27 PM
Yanoman Gunmetal Sleeves (100 ct)

If you can find them. Otherwise KMC HYPER MATTE. They're the new ones. Combines the feel of ultra pros and the durability of dragon shield.