Legacy tournaments

[Rood]

I feel like even 5 years ago..Legacy tournaments were everywhere. Every weekend there were like at least 1-2 tournaments going on nearby. Did SCG discourage hosts from hosting large-scale tournaments more frequently? We need to resurrect the tournament scene. It would be cool to have it go back to what it used to be.

[(nameless one)]

I think the scenes disappeared because of card availability and price.

A lot of newer players tend to go to Modern rather than Legacy because it's cheaper to get shock lands than dual lands. Though regrets soon come after, but some regret it (playing an older format) so much that they would just stick with Standard or Limited.

[jandax]

See, I would have said it just the opposite, that some would regret playing Standard/Modern after playing an older format.

If only Legacy had the influx of new players semi proportionate to that of Modern. After all, not every competitive deck needs a $1,000+ mana base.

[Koby]

Not sure how it goes in other locales, but here in Southern California we seem to have at least 3 events a month between 4-5 stores. It may have taken our community about 2 years to get to this point however. I'm also not counting weekly small events at those shops either. I'm talking $20+ entry with guaranteed prizing.

[ESG]

I'm sorry that other parts of the country don't have flourishing Legacy scenes. The greater Seattle area has had a solid Legacy contingent for many years, and things have expanded over the past year and a half, to the point where our LGS routinely gets 20 to 30 people for weeklies alone. We often get 70 to 100 people for larger-stakes tournaments, usually drawing players from Canada and sometimes bringing in people from Eastern Washington and Oregon. The latest SCG event in Seattle had a turnout of 253 for Legacy, and there certainly were players I know who couldn't make it, so the number of Legacy players in this area is definitely higher than 253. Lordofthepit has done a great job of documenting Legacy's expansion in this area.

I think there's been a lot of good advice given in past "My scene is struggling" threads. I don't know if people are just not following that advice or if other factors are at work.

[Megadeus]

See for ATlanta its really weird... Like I think our most recent SCG event had something close to 500? And yet our weekly struggle to get 16 people? I guess our upcoming SCG IQ will be interesting to see what the turnout is there in a few weeks

[Tammit67]

Not sure how it goes in other locales, but here in Southern California we seem to have at least 3 events a month between 4-5 stores. It may have taken our community about 2 years to get to this point however. I'm also not counting weekly small events at those shops either. I'm talking $20+ entry with guaranteed prizing.

Yeah here in Philly area we have 1 event a month hosted by a rotation between 3 stores. And then there are the SCGs that come through within reasonable distance, local stores beyond the first 3 that host less frequent events, and if you are willing to travel a bit there is Jupiter/Baltimore scenes.

If you aren't on the West Coast or Midatlantic, you might not be seeing what we are.

[Arsenal]

See for ATlanta its really weird... Like I think our most recent SCG event had something close to 500? And yet our weekly struggle to get 16 people? I guess our upcoming SCG IQ will be interesting to see what the turnout is there in a few weeks

ATL is a major transportation hub and is considered by many to be a "transient" city. Professional sports teams in ATL (outside of the Braves), particularly the Falcons pre-Matt Ryan, had supreme difficulty garnering local support.

[Megadeus]

ATL is a major transportation hub and is considered by many to be a "transient" city. Professional sports teams in ATL (outside of the Braves), particularly the Falcons pre-Matt Ryan, had supreme difficulty garnering local support.

Thats fair. The Braves only being popular because they are the only team in the southeast not in florida lol.

[HammafistRoob]

I feel like even 5 years ago..Legacy tournaments were everywhere. Every weekend there were like at least 1-2 tournaments going on nearby. Did SCG discourage hosts from hosting large-scale tournaments more frequently? We need to resurrect the tournament scene. It would be cool to have it go back to what it used to be.

You could've played last weekend but you didn't want to :(. There's a tournament this weekend ~2 hours away, first gets 4MM Goyfs, one of them is foil so that's roughly 600 dollars. Tom's not going so I can't either because I got no ride :(.

Basically what happened to our scene is OfftheWall closed down and they were pretty much our only source of larger tournaments. They recently reopened but their Legacy scene is small, I lived like 20 minutes from there when I was in Deerfield. Also our whole Team quitting didn't help lol.

It doesn't really make sense though considering the SCG in Worcester and Providence always have 200-300 players. There's just no shops that can dedicate money to Legacy, it is the hardest format to develope a scene for.

[guelahpapyrus]

Not sure how it goes in other locales, but here in Southern California we seem to have at least 3 events a month between 4-5 stores. It may have taken our community about 2 years to get to this point however. I'm also not counting weekly small events at those shops either. I'm talking $20+ entry with guaranteed prizing.

It also has something to do with LA being the second biggest metropolis in the U.S. =)

If only Hi De Ho would play ball and get some legacy going, I could stop driving to events.

[Koby]

It also has something to do with LA being the second biggest metropolis in the U.S. =)

If only Hi De Ho would play ball and get some legacy going, I could stop driving to events.

I don't consider Los Angeles to be a metropolis. It's more like a goddamn giant suburbia. 120 miles end to end of neighborhoods is no comparison to NYC or even SF downtown. Also the public transportation sucks so many balls, it's not even worth getting on the bus (lol trains? GG auto industry lobbyists) with all the poor people who can't afford cars.

Anyways, yes many neighborhoods means many stores. It's a wonder they don't all continue to fight each other with tournament offerings.

[nedleeds]

See for ATlanta its really weird... Like I think our most recent SCG event had something close to 500? And yet our weekly struggle to get 16 people? I guess our upcoming SCG IQ will be interesting to see what the turnout is there in a few weeks

Atlanta traffic is fucking backbreakingly shitty especially where our weekly is and mid-week. If they devoted a weekend day to it we'd be up around 30 I'm sure. The problem is the weekend day is the cash day for any store primarily preying on children to make their bones. Thus the Yu-Ghi-Oh's on Saturday and Standard rehash on Sunday. That being said if 30 of us show up on Saturday Pants will sanction anything.

[guelahpapyrus]

I don't consider Los Angeles to be a metropolis. It's more like a goddamn giant suburbia. 120 miles end to end of neighborhoods is no comparison to NYC or even SF downtown. Also the public transportation sucks so many balls, it's not even worth getting on the bus (lol trains? GG auto industry lobbyists) with all the poor people who can't afford cars.

Anyways, yes many neighborhoods means many stores. It's a wonder they don't all continue to fight each other with tournament offerings.

This is all true.

Maybe in 20 years our subway system will be out of the developing decks section.

EDIT: But the point I wanted to make was that we have so many god damn people within an hour or two that we can have a respectable legacy scene. I lived in New England and we had a similar gig, but when I was in Florida a game of legacy was impossible without a few hours of driving. I can't imagine being in a place like Montana or parts of the midwest.

[Rood]

Okay my region is pretty dying still though. I think SCG kinda just monopolized the tournament scene so hard it drove alot of others out. I know Dave does a great job trying to host tournaments as much as he can and that's great. We also used to get ALOT of vintage tournaments too back when it was a real format before Wizards killed it off completely.

[Norm]

Roodmistah,

We have weekly legacy tournaments on Sunday at That's Entertainment in Worcester. I drive about 1 hour 20 minutes and it should be less than 2 hours for you. That's not exactly in your back yard but it's a great tournament with strong players. Entry is $10, top 4 split with prize to 1-3 and I think the top end looks like $100+ depending on turnout. You should check that place out if you want a consistent legacy fix.

[Rood]

My friend went there...a bit too far for me to attend for a weekly though.

[ESG]

Atlanta traffic is fucking backbreakingly shitty especially where our weekly is and mid-week. If they devoted a weekend day to it we'd be up around 30 I'm sure. The problem is the weekend day is the cash day for any store primarily preying on children to make their bones. Thus the Yu-Ghi-Oh's on Saturday and Standard rehash on Sunday. That being said if 30 of us show up on Saturday Pants will sanction anything.

A former store here, First Pick, sometimes would run a Yu-Gi-Oh tournament the same day as the Legacy tournament. As you said, when people come out to play, store owners will usually make things happen.

Roodmistah, what do you consider to be a realistic driving time to get to an event? Also, how invested in Legacy do you personally feel, and is it less than in the past? My impression of these threads is that some of them are created by people who aren't that involved in the format and aren't committed to attending events, which, incidentally, is why store don't maintain events. When events are offered, how often do you attend? When you go to an event, do you bring other people? Do you carpool? Do you lend out cards? Do other players lend cards to you? Do you playtest for events? Do you have friends who play? All these things have an impact.

[HammafistRoob]

Some info for Rodney, or anyone on the East Coast of Mass- Scholars' in Bridgewater has a weekly Legacy on Wednesday nights at 7:30, I went there today and we had 14 players (got 3rd). Wicked Hobbies in Wareham has a tiny tournament the first Saturday of every month. There's another store in Wareham that hosts proxy tournaments but I've never been there and heard it sucks.