[Another] new card frame

[thecrav]

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/2014/aiwesdfkw9242featwk01_en_card_walloffire.jpg

Holographic authenticity indicator on rares, mythics, and foils:

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/2014/229fjk2sdalkfeatwk01_en_card_wastenot.jpg

More info on the mothership (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/281)

[Megadeus]

Like I said, in the other thread, possibly a way to make counterfeiting more difficult

[ween]

Aside from the new border and hologram, there's nothing i don't like about Waste Not.

[Mr.C]

Love the new border. Ever tried to read collector's numbers on non-white/artifact cards? Frickin' impossible.

Much better now, and I like them being proactive about counterfeits.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Good idea, although it's not really nice visually.

My main problem with the many versions of MtG frame is that when you play the cards of different editions (and this is esp. true for Eternal with its deepest pool), it's like when you're playing several different games at once. I know that it's too late to mourn the fact that there was no counterfeit protection at the very beginning of the game (who would have guessed what MtG will become over next years and that the Moxes will be worth their weight in gold), on the other hand, I still think that a watermark would work the same and won't be that... well, not really ugly, but the hologram is very, very unusual to say the least.

EDIT: Although I like that one may easily gain all the needed info about the particular card from the card itself, I dislike how they've done it. It's really ugly and it definitely should have been made in a smaller font. From now on, all the cards will look like an EU-normed pack of biscuits.

"Tarmogoyf, 4/5 package. Green monster. May contain small portions of soya, eggs, nuts, almonds and chilli.

[Just me]

That new border is just plain ugly to me. And I don't see the use. I never ever have been interested in the information stated there.
The expansion is known with the symbol (where there was soom room for a number if needed), the rarity as well (these days, and that works fine).
So that's really lame and possibly done under pressure from artists to show there name or something. Otherwise there really isn't a goof reason to do it.

The hologram (counterfeit) is fine.
The new font is fine.
Smaller frame all around is fine.

The colored edge dissapearing at the bottom is ugly. And they know it, that's why they start with a black card where you don't see it. Imagine how ugly this will be on the other cards as well and why? for information that's irrelevant to many and never relevant during a game?

Yes, I know. Magic will stay. The sky isn't falling and I'll keep playing the game. Doesn't mean I have to like this. I really hope they change the border back after M15 and not just the credit (which is funny as a one time thing).

[Quasim0ff]

Awesome, they actually made Waste Not playable!

I was dreading a 4cmc 2BB enchantment, or something. This is nice!

OT: They are ugly.

Bring back OLD frames.

[monovfox]

New frames are ugly. I really hate that holo-stamp.

[shrubs]

It reminds me of Pokemon cards?

The holo deal isn't a bad idea, but could be executed better, perhaps without revamping the border.

And what's the point of the language indicator? It seems redundant, I even caught on and can distinguish between Chinese, Japanese and Korean.

[Kayradis]

http://fedgeno.com/meme-generator/memes/169.png

[miguelmatix]

Does the black new frame add anything relevant to painter servant/ circle of protection black/ bad moon? Lol

[TeenieBopper]

This thread is why we can't have nice things.

[cdr]

More changes that benefit WotC but not really players.

[thegrinningdemon]

More changes that benefit WotC but not really players.

How do these changes ONLY benefit WOTC?

More importantly, even if these changes only benefit WOTC, what makes the difference? I think it's a good change that will benefit everyone.

[Stan]

It's ugly. That holostamp and new font can be cool, but the bottom of the card looks like ass now, with the new frame. They made the bad new frame even worse.

[Barook]

It's ugly. That holostamp and new font can be cool, but the bottom of the card looks like ass now, with the new frame. They made the bad new frame even worse.
Let's compare the actual card with user-made variants:

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/2014/aiwesdfkw9242featwk01_en_card_walloffire.jpg http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=150349&d=1389019594 http://i.imgur.com/d6Ivdj7.jpg

Those asymmetrical, random cutouts look pretty bad. Seriously, what the hell were they thinking?

[Lemnear]

Let's compare the actual card with user-made variants:

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/2014/aiwesdfkw9242featwk01_en_card_walloffire.jpg http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=150349&d=1389019594 http://i.imgur.com/d6Ivdj7.jpg

Those asymmetrical, random cutouts look pretty bad. Seriously, what the hell were they thinking?

At least the lines work fluently with the P/T box, which tells me everything.

[Whippoorwill]

I'm sure the next change they'll announce will be a price increase on boosters because of that foil stamp.

Out of the 3 versions Barook posted, I prefer the far right one.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Let's compare the actual card with user-made variants:

http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/features/2014/aiwesdfkw9242featwk01_en_card_walloffire.jpg http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=150349&d=1389019594 http://i.imgur.com/d6Ivdj7.jpg http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff388/aleksandr4/Wall_of_Barcode_zps4b5b0fd7.jpg

Those asymmetrical, random cutouts look pretty bad. Seriously, what the hell were they thinking?


I'm sure the next change they'll announce will be a price increase on boosters because of that foil stamp.

Out of the 4 versions Barook posted, I prefer the far right one.

So do I.

[guillemnicolau]

I would have prefered just putting the old foil star instead of that circle.
Something like this:
http://i.imgur.com/XdsUYV3.jpg

[monovfox]

I would have prefered just putting the old foil star instead of that circle.
Something like this:
http://i.imgur.com/XdsUYV3.jpg

That is an amazing idea!

[force_of_phil]

It took less than a day for users to come up with better solutions for both the border and the hologram. WotC...

http://veryknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/cmonman.jpg?w=529

[Malchar]

It took less than a day for users to come up with better solutions for both the border and the hologram. WotC...

The "foil star" is not the same material as a hologram. It doesn't meet the same specifications for security and authenticity. How about they just replace the hologram on your Visa card with a pretty little foil star? I guess the US government also goofed up because they could have just put a bunch of little foil stars on the new $100 bills instead of those ugly hologram strips.

You can't even make foil stars on cards that aren't foil. They are only possible because the entire cardstock material starts out foiled, and then the card art layer is simply left clear so that the foil shows through in the image of a star. Just because you can make something in photoshop, it doesn't mean that you can actually make it using real world materials. And unless you want the costs of booster packs to double, then you also have to consider the manufacturing costs...

[rxavage]

The "foil star" is not the same material as a hologram. It doesn't meet the same specifications for security and authenticity. How about they just replace the hologram on your Visa card with a pretty little foil star? I guess the US government also goofed up because they could have just put a bunch of little foil stars on the new $100 bills instead of those ugly hologram strips.

You can't even make foil stars on cards that aren't foil. They are only possible because the entire cardstock material starts out foiled, and then the card art layer is simply left clear so that the foil shows through in the image of a star. Just because you can make something in photoshop, it doesn't mean that you can actually make it using real world materials. And unless you want the costs of booster packs to double, then you also have to consider the manufacturing costs...

Cause they couldn't use the same material to make something more aesthetically and visually pleasing such as the "foil star" right?

[apple713]

If they wanted a change they had a lot of options. These changes are pretty poor.

The Set doesn't need to be on the card twice

The set symbol is colored black silver gold orange for a reason, and we don't need redundancy on the bottom of the card

The language seems pointless. Theres only a few of them that cards are printed in and they are usually easily identified. If I have a foreign card I'm not wondering what language it is because I probably traded for it with the intent of getting that language.


Remove border - you don't need the border on the card, the color identity is determined by casting cost (the 5 pacts are the only exception, and then you could print on the card, this card is blue or whatever)
Extend art
remove set symbol - especially since its printed at the bottom now. OR they could make the holo stamp into the symbol, which would be interesting.
remove the language indicator, and the dot that they added - they are redundant


This will still allow them to print whatever they want on the card and they can keep the stupid holo stamp, but at least give us what we want. I'm sure the change will also make the artists happy because they get to show off their talents more.

Something more along the lines of whats below without the gold border and add the stamp. Sorry guys i can't photoshop


http://i42.tinypic.com/vhuowg.jpg