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John Cox
01-25-2014, 04:32 AM
A pet card of mine is plunge into darkness , but I've never really found a place for it. I realized that with laboratory maniac and angel's grace I had a two card combo.
How it works,
1. cast angel's grace
2. cast plunge into darkness and exile your deck
3. find laboratory maniac in the exiled cards
4. Use a cantrip and win the game.

Pros

Not graveyard dependant
All the combo pieces but maniac are never dead
costs can be spread out over several turns
Very compact
Life loss is not a big deal depending on line of play.

Cons

very prone to creature hate and burn



A staring point could look like

4 plunge into darkness
4 angel's grace
2 laboratory maniac
4 lim-dul's vault
4 dark ritual
4 lotus petal
4 brainstorm
4 sensei's divining top
4 misdirection
4 duress
4 gemstone mine
4 scalding tarn
2 misty rainforest
1 island
2 underground sea
1 tundra
4 ponder
4 spell pierce



Right now I see this as having nothing but potential.

Lemnear
01-25-2014, 04:51 AM
A pet card of mine is plunge into darkness , but I've never really found a place for it. I realized that with laboratory maniac and angel's grace I had a two card combo.
How it works,
1. cast angel's grace
2. cast plunge into darkness and exile your deck
3. find laboratory maniac in the exiled cards
4. Use a cantrip and win the game.

Pros

Not graveyard dependant
All the combo pieces but maniac are never dead
costs can be spread out over several turns
Very compact
Life loss is not a big deal depending on line of play.

Cons

very prone to creature hate and burn



A staring point could look like

4 plunge into darkness
4 angel's grace
2 laboratory maniac
4 lim-dul's vault
4 dark ritual
4 lotus petal
4 brainstorm
4 sensei's divining top
4 misdirection
4 duress
4 gemstone mine
4 scalding tarn
2 misty rainforest
1 island
2 underground sea
1 tundra
4 ponder
4 spell pierce



Right now I see this as having nothing but potential.

You can't pay more life for Plunge that you have, so removing more than 20 cards is impossible even with Angels Grace. The Combo is as bad as Angels Grace + Ad Nauseam and pretty much as expenise considering that you would have to cast the Maniac the turn you Plunge (which does not work as mentioned). As a third comment, this deck offers no better setup for the Maniac Kill than Doomsday ...

(nameless one)
01-25-2014, 06:33 AM
How about Divining Witch? Witch can find Lab Man and combos with it. You can use Cavern of Souls so you can resolve. Also, playing blue and black should give you tools to protect them.

Maybe a Doomsday shell with that combo as back up?

Zirath
01-25-2014, 10:05 AM
Isn't Spoils of the Vault the correct card here?

Lemnear
01-25-2014, 10:10 AM
Isn't Spoils of the Vault the correct card here?

Same problem: neither Soils nor plunge removes your whole library and puts Maniac in your hand ... pretty much exactly what Doomsdays does