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Griselpuff
02-16-2014, 11:47 AM
Hi all,

Gonna need some help here figuring out which decks made Top 64 in Paris. I'll be using this data in my next metagame analysis. Thank you!

1 LE BRIAND, Loic [FRA] 40 Reanimator
2 GILLES, Maxime [FRA] 40 Miracles
3 ACCART, Jean-Mary [FRA] 40 RW Painter
4 Fernández Castelló, Jo [ESP] 39 BUG Delver
5 Dominguez, Javier [ESP] 39 BUG Delver
6 Schönegger, Philipp [AUT] 39 Miracles
6b Gerardo Gibert 39
7 Böttcher, Stefan [DEU] 39 DeathBlade
8 damo da rosa, paulo vi [BRA] 37 Miracles
9 Gilligan, Daniel [IRL] 37 DeathBlade
10 Noding, Sveinung Knuts [NOR] 37 Nic Pod
11 Fidzinski, Maciej [POL] 36 RUG Delver
12 mezhoud, hakim [FRA] 36 Sneak and Show
13 Hatto, Steve [LUX] 36 Sneak and Show
14 Euser, Kasper [NLD] 36 Farmville
15 Pinto, Gonçalo [PRT] 36 Sneak and Show
16 Flury, Julian Felix [CHE] 36
17 Musmacher, Thomas [DEU] 36
18 DAGEN, PIERRE [FRA] 36
19 GHERBEZZA, Romain [FRA] 36
20 Wilkens, Jens [DEU] 36
21 Fukala, Dalibor [CZE] 36
22 Verbiest, Bart 36
23 Rasmus, Ehlers nilsson [DNK] 36
24 Santopadre, Marco [ITA] 36
25 Steyns, Nick [DEU] 36
26 Pakka, Esko [FIN] 36
27 Björklund, Rasmus [SWE] 36
28 Czolk, Stefan [DEU] 36
29 giraud, virgile [FRA] 36
30 Ihonen, Juha [FIN] 35
31 Hagelberg, Maximilian [SWE] 34
32 Ancelmo, Fabio [BRA] 34
33 van der End, Martijn [NLD] 34
34 florent, lucas [FRA] 34
35 rohner, omar [ESP] 33 [B]Merfolk
36 Boettcher, Jared [USA] 33
37 Larsson, Joel [SWE] 33
38 fasel, yoann [CHE] 33
39 DARRAS, Alexandre [BEL] 33
40 Light, Matthew [ENG] 33 DeathBlade
41 Ancona, Michele [ITA] 33
42 Sanchez Lopez, Alvaro [ESP] 33
43 ZOGRAPHOS, JEREMIAH [FRA] 33
44 rinaldi, luca [ITA] 33 Miracles
45 Peltier, Charles 33
46 Linden, Carsten [DEU] 33 [B]GRUB Delver
47 Ganz, Andreas [CHE] 33
48 Soriente, Gregorio [ITA] 33
49 Schütz, Stefan [AUT] 33
50 Bonneau, alexandre [FRA] 33
51 Werder, Raphael [DEU] 33
52 Marcotti, Emanuele [ITA] 33
53 dumontier, laurent [FRA] 33
54 MENDEZ, JULIEN [FRA] 33
55 Schopman, Balthasar [NLD] 33
56 Hyldkrog, Rune [DNK] 33
57 Lybaert, Marijn 33 [B]UWR Delver
58 Leitner, Benjamin [AUT] 33
59 Görzgen, Fabian [DEU] 33 Punishing Maverick
60 Mangenot, Maxime [FRA] 33
61 Miranda, Nuno [PRT] 33
62 Penedo de Saa, Rubén [ESP] 33
63 Lopez Tercero, Josue [ESP] 33
64 Barros, Tiago [PRT] 33

Also, for those who don't know, Gerardo was DQ'd after making Top 8 for something he did in Round 13. The head judge took 2 rounds to decide, and after he made Top 8 he was disqualified. Please keep this thread related to the metagame and not the DQ. Someone can perhaps start a different thread for that. Thanks!

SirTylerGalt
02-16-2014, 11:53 AM
46 Linden, Carsten [DEU] 33

--> bUrg (Sasan will probably post Carsten's decklist in the bUrg thread later today)

Barook
02-16-2014, 11:53 AM
59 Görzgen, Fabian [DEU] 33

He's on his standard Punishing Maverick list. It was mentioned on the stream somewhere.

Also, could you please make the used decks bold? It would make reading the data more easy.

Grand Superior
02-16-2014, 01:09 PM
The top 16 decklists are up (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/gppar14/welcome#0), which can help fill in some of the blanks.

09. Deathblade
10. Nic-Fit
11. RUG Delver (quite the... interesting list)
12. Sneak and Show
13. Sneak and Show
14. Bant Lands
15. Sneak and Show
16. Elves

Serbitar
02-16-2014, 01:24 PM
20. Wilkens on BUG Delver
51. Werder on Miracles

SirTylerGalt
02-16-2014, 01:32 PM
11. RUG Delver (quite the... interesting list)


It's not RUG Delver. It's "Next Level Threshold" (also known as NLT), updated with Nemesis. I love that deck.

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?18865-Deck-Next-Level-Threshold


Here are a few older decklists:
http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=9923&iddeck=72337
http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=9383&iddeck=68524

Grand Superior
02-16-2014, 01:43 PM
I stand corrected. Didn't know that deck existed. Now the decklist makes a lot more sense.

lyracian
02-16-2014, 01:47 PM
It's not RUG Delver. It's "Next Level Threshold" (also known as NLT), updated with Nemesis. I love that deck.
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?18865-Deck-Next-Level-Threshold
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NLT are usually Jace decks so not convinced this is derived from NLT rather than Candian Thresh.

Megadeus
02-16-2014, 01:50 PM
Yeah. I mean it isn't exactly like Canadian either, but it isn't unlike them. It is still just a tempo deck with different (higher costing) threats

BlackStarDeceiver
02-16-2014, 01:57 PM
25 Steyns, Nick [DEU] 36 (not sure, will ask him later)

30 Ihonen, Juha [FIN] 35 (BUG Landstill, he is on the Source as well, last decklist is on TC decks)

36 Boettcher, Jared [USA] 33 Sneak was mentioned on Coverage

39 DARRAS, Alexandre 33 Elves
40 Light, Matthew [ENG] 33 [B]DeathBlade the Noble Hierarch version


47 Ganz, Andreas [CHE] 33 ANT on covergae if i remember correctly

lyracian
02-16-2014, 02:02 PM
Yeah. I mean it isn't exactly like Canadian either, but it isn't unlike them. It is still just a tempo deck with different (higher costing) threats
Its Evolve or Die; look back at 2008 deck lists and Thresh was running Trygon Predator. The current iteration can not deal with TNN so looks like the next best option is to join them.

SirTylerGalt
02-16-2014, 02:03 PM
NLT are usually Jace decks so not convinced this is derived from NLT rather than Candian Thresh.

Saying that NLT is a Jace deck is like saying that DeathBlade is a Jace deck because it used to play 2 Jaces (which some people now eschew in a TNN meta).

NLT is a more midrange version of Canadian Threshold playing more lands (usually 20-21) while still keeping the Waste / Stifle plan for free wins and to slow down the opponent's mana development while playing bigger / more controllish threats. It used to play 2 Jace for a long time to "go bigger", but it makes sense to replace them with Nemesis now, since Jace is not as good these days (especially when you don't have any way of removing a Nemesis once it's on the battlefiled...).

NLT usually didn't play Delver though, preferring Snapcaster Mage for card advantage (flashbacking Stifle is awesome). I guess we could say that playing 4 Delver instead of Snapcaster makes this list an hybrid of RUG Delver / NLT, but I feel like the gameplan is closer to NLT than to RUG Delver. Also, it makes sense to remove Snapcaster Mage in a DRS-infested meta, especially when opponents will bring GY hate postboard to deal with Lavamancer / Tarmogoyf / Scavenging Ooze.

Sorry for the off topic, but NLT used to be my pet deck :)

lyracian
02-16-2014, 04:34 PM
Saying that NLT is a Jace deck is like saying that DeathBlade is a Jace deck because it used to play 2 Jaces (which some people now eschew in a TNN meta).
OK; I accept it was an abbreviated response only mentioning one card. However NLT usually has Jace, Snapcaster and no Delver. Which to me does not make this deck a step-child of NLT. Perhaps it is new-level Threshold but to me the parent deck is traditional Thresh.

KaristaDispel
02-16-2014, 04:38 PM
At the bottom of this page:

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/gppar14/day2#7

The exchange between these two players could be the infraction that led to the DQ, in my opinion. Considering that Marit Lage is indestructible and immune to The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale's effect.

Technics
02-16-2014, 04:52 PM
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/gppar14/standdeck

Full 184 decks with Names.

Rank Player Deck Points OMW%
1 LE BRIAND, Loic [FRA] Reanimator 40 726862%
2 GILLES, Maxime [FRA] Miracles 40 705556%
3 ACCART, Jean-Mary [FRA] Imperial Painter 40 653433%
4 Fernández Castelló, Jo [ESP] BUG Delver 39 688889%
5 Dominguez, Javier [ESP] BUG Delver 39 686325%
6 Schönegger, Philipp [AUT] Miracles 39 681481%
7 Böttcher, Stefan [DEU] WUBG Deathblade 39 657037%
8 damo da rosa, paulo vi [BRA] Miracles 37 769646%
9 Gilligan, Daniel [IRL] WUBG Deathblade 37 645163%
10 Noding, Sveinung Knuts [NOR] Nic Fit 37 628651%
11 Fidzinski, Maciej [POL] RUG Delver 36 723077%
12 mezhoud, hakim [FRA] Sneak & Show 36 701398%
13 Hatto, Steve [LUX] Sneak & Show 36 691204%
14 Euser, Kasper [NLD] "Farmville" 36 685503%
15 Pinto, Gonçalo [PRT] Sneak & Show 36 683557%
16 Flury, Julian Felix [CHE] Elves 36 677778%
17 Musmacher, Thomas [DEU] Lands 36 671154%
18 DAGEN, PIERRE [FRA] Storm 36 669193%
19 GHERBEZZA, Romain [FRA] Omni-Tell 36 668984%
20 Wilkens, Jens [DEU] BUG Delver 36 666303%
21 Fukala, Dalibor [CZE] Imperial Painter 36 657284%
22 Verbiest, Bart [BEL] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 36 647375%
23 Rasmus, Ehlers nilsson [DNK] RUG Delver 36 644548%
24 Santopadre, Marco [ITA] UR Delver 36 644290%
25 Steyns, Nick [DEU] Death and Taxes 36 644170%
26 Pakka, Esko [FIN] BUG Delver 36 625926%
27 Björklund, Rasmus [SWE] BUG Delver 36 607166%
28 Czolk, Stefan [DEU] Sneak & Show 36 592963%
29 giraud, virgile [FRA] Dredge 36 589482%
30 Ihonen, Juha [FIN] BUG Control 35 675142%
31 Hagelberg, Maximilian [SWE] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 34 653276%
32 Ancelmo, Fabio [BRA] Sneak & Show 34 645767%
33 van der End, Martijn [NLD] Shardless BUG 34 633333%
34 florent, lucas [FRA] Elves 34 612356%
35 rohner, omar [ESP] Merfolk 33 741026%
36 Boettcher, Jared [USA] WUBG Deathblade 33 727778%
37 Larsson, Joel [SWE] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 33 710516%
38 fasel, yoann [CHE] Shardless BUG 33 702076%
39 DARRAS, Alexandre [BEL] Elves 33 700231%
40 Light, Matthew [ENG] WUBG Deathblade 33 693849%
41 Ancona, Michele [ITA] BUG Delver 33 685941%
42 Sanchez Lopez, Alvaro [ESP] BUG Delver 33 685648%
43 ZOGRAPHOS, JEREMIAH [FRA] BUG Delver 33 683333%
44 rinaldi, luca [ITA] Miracles 33 677447%
45 Peltier, Charles [BEL] Junk 33 677137%
46 Linden, Carsten [DEU] BURG Delver 33 669811%
47 Ganz, Andreas [CHE] Storm 33 667949%
48 Soriente, Gregorio [ITA] BUG Delver 33 662407%
49 Schütz, Stefan [AUT] Miracles 33 654915%
50 Bonneau, alexandre [FRA] Death and Taxes 33 650712%
51 Werder, Raphael [DEU] Miracles 33 637607%
52 Marcotti, Emanuele [ITA] Shardless BUG 33 636772%
53 dumontier, laurent [FRA] Merfolk 33 635185%
54 MENDEZ, JULIEN [FRA] Belcher 33 632194%
55 Schopman, Balthasar [NLD] BUG Delver 33 630769%
56 Hyldkrog, Rune [DNK] Elves 33 628836%
57 Lybaert, Marijn [BEL] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 33 627473%
58 Leitner, Benjamin [AUT] Stoneblade 33 624786%
59 Görzgen, Fabian [DEU] Maverick 33 618681%
60 Mangenot, Maxime [FRA] Elves 33 616742%
61 Miranda, Nuno [PRT] BUG Delver 33 612639%
62 Penedo de Saa, Rubén [ESP] Omni-Tell 33 609312%
63 Lopez Tercero, Josue [ESP] Jund 33 604127%
64 Barros, Tiago [PRT] RUG Delver 33 595423%
65 polzl, tristan [FRA] Shardless BUG 33 541058%
66 Hua Chao, Song [CHN] Jund 32 676775%
67 Karlinski, Anton [DEU] Miracles 32 608765%
68 Deltour, Louis [FRA] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 31 693661%
69 Boelens, Jasper [NLD] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 31 675891%
70 HABERT, ALEXANDRE [FRA] BUG Delver 31 667888%
71 Schultze, Max [DEU] BUG Delver 31 666667%
72 Lehner, Bernhard [AUT] Stoneblade 31 665334%
73 La porta, Alessandro [ITA] BUG Delver 31 665324%
74 Calcano, Christian [USA] WUBG Deathblade 31 664815%
75 Moral, Carlos [ESP] Stoneblade 31 658845%
76 Eliott, Boussaud [FRA] Death and Taxes 31 657631%
77 Plagge, Julian [DEU] Merfolk 31 657407%
78 Achoun, Maxence [FRA] Shardless BUG 31 656251%
79 Frerard, David [FRA] Storm 31 654308%
80 DUDOGNON, Yohan [FRA] Miracles 31 653073%
81 Omrcen, Ante [HRV] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 31 649841%
82 Mund, Benjamin [FRA] Stoneblade 31 649136%
83 GUILLERM, Benjamin [FRA] Miracles 31 633642%
84 Delgado bernal, juan m [ESP] Storm 31 624577%
85 Anchisi, Corrado [ITA] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 31 623380%
86 Vogt, Marc [DEU] Miracles 31 621164%
87 Hermans, Myrddin [NLD] Dredge 31 613333%
88 Gadaleta Caldarola, Ca [ITA] Elves 31 599359%
89 Been, Iso [NLD] Jund 31 573507%
90 Gomez, manuel [ESP] Storm 31 570038%
91 Magalhaes, Edgar [CAN] UR Delver 30 719841%
92 Theurel, Sebastien [FRA] Merfolk 30 713248%
93 Box, Jesper [NLD] Dredge 30 690986%
94 Burgan, Julien [FRA] BG Rock 30 678758%
95 Hehn, Thore [DEU] Death and Taxes 30 673504%
96 Martinez, Alexis [ESP] Reanimator 30 672222%
97 Muscio, Alessio [ITA] Elves 30 657778%
98 Brandtner, Michael [AUT] Storm 30 656812%
99 SCHULHOF, LEO [FRA] Elves 30 653236%
100 Jahoda, Jakub [CZE] Omni-Tell 30 647589%
101 Messow, Philip [DEU] WUBG Deathblade 30 647531%
102 dupriez, michael [FRA] Imperial Painter 30 644630%
103 Vonasek, Martin [CZE] Storm 30 640347%
104 Hernandez, Sergi [ESP] Sneak & Show 30 635629%
105 Baldelli, Guglielmo [ITA] Omni-Tell 30 635328%
106 Arneuve, Vladimir [FRA] Elves 30 635317%
107 Möllemann, Gerhard [DEU] WUBG Deathblade 30 634493%
108 MACE, Vivien [FRA] Miracles 30 634188%
109 hostettler, christophe [CHE] Jund 30 627991%
110 Novellini, Guglielmo [ITA] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 30 625926%
111 Traiforos, Nikos [GRC] Dredge 30 622116%
112 Lebrun, Nicolas [BEL] Merfolk 30 619153%
113 Fournier, Patrice [FRA] Merfolk 30 618529%
114 Miori, Marina [FRA] RUG Delver 30 618413%
115 Galensa, Maximilian [DEU] Reanimator 30 617672%
116 Tobiasch, Marc [DEU] Storm 30 616697%
117 Bonde, Michael [DNK] WUBG Deathblade 30 611640%
118 Blieck, Benny [BEL] Belcher 30 610821%
119 GILLET, Aurélien [FRA] Elves 30 609269%
120 Maaske, Andre [DEU] Stoneblade 30 606429%
121 Vincent, Guillaume [FRA] UWR Stoneblade/Delver 30 602656%
122 Boschmans, Kris [BEL] WUBG Deathblade 30 592363%
123 Goldberg, Nicolas [FRA] Omni-Tell 30 576614%
124 Stevens, Reinout [BEL] Storm 30 571396%
125 van der Ham, Peter [NLD] "Farmville" 29 640263%
126 Hauck, Christian [DEU] Death and Taxes 29 635104%
127 de Beer, Theun [NLD] Miracles 29 623280%
128 Sanchez, Marc [ESP] WUBG Deathblade 28 685684%
129 Burnett, Kai [USA] WUBG Deathblade 28 660714%
130 Moyschewitz, Fabian [DEU] Sneak & Show 28 649630%
131 Simmonds, Alex [ENG] Death and Taxes 28 622407%
132 Carvalho, Bernardo [PRT] Jund 28 612284%
133 Reusink, Paul [NLD] Lands 28 595820%
134 Vedensky, Kirill [UKR] Belcher 27 670085%
135 Stappers, Erik [NLD] Merfolk 27 665755%
136 Cerny, Christopher [AUT] Jund 27 660998%
137 BERGER, MAXIMILIEN [FRA] Merfolk 27 657367%
138 Marx, Florian [DEU] Miracles 27 656777%
139 Garchery, Quentin [FRA] Death and Taxes 27 656028%
140 Klocker, Elias [AUT] RUG Delver 27 647945%
141 Passow, Christopher [DEU] BUG Delver 27 647364%
142 Strzelczyk, Ansgar [DEU] Storm 27 645665%
143 Patrick, Plößer [DEU] Elves 27 645655%
144 Böhnstedt, Lutz [DEU] Death and Taxes 27 640011%
145 Milia, Marcel [ESP] BUG Delver 27 629960%
146 Govignon, Sébastien [FRA] Jund 27 628748%
147 Krauß, Andreas [DEU] Sneak & Show 27 623889%
148 Allouchery, Gonzague [FRA] Merfolk 27 623443%
149 Mortensen, Anders [DNK] Storm 27 622401%
150 Sinjen, Henrik [DEU] Jund 27 618519%
151 Sochurek, Petr [CZE] Merfolk 27 609188%
152 PUTHOD, JEROME [FRA] Storm 27 606463%
153 montalban, francisco j [ESP] Nic Fit 27 601306%
154 Cardoso, Adriano [PRT] Omni-Tell 27 598025%
155 Theijssen, Tom [NLD] Storm 27 594074%
156 GERMAIN, Cédric [FRA] WUBG Deathblade 27 594074%
157 Tiinus, Joona [FIN] BUG Delver 27 592006%
158 Heyer, Daniel [DEU] Stoneblade 27 570556%
159 VARDARAMATOS, SPYROS [GRC] Elves 27 562407%
160 Bonanni, Claudio [ITA] BUG Delver 25 651648%
161 Riedl, Adrian [AUT] Miracles 25 630291%
162 AUREJAC, Alexandre [FRA] Miracles 24 672840%
163 Nadler, Matthias [CHE] Stoneblade 24 667379%
164 van Herwaarden, Sander [NLD] Sneak & Show 24 664103%
165 Teneggi, Alessandro [ITA] BUG Delver 24 651414%
166 VICAIRE, SEBASTIEN [FRA] BUG Delver 24 651282%
167 kaschapow, marcel [DEU] BUG Delver 24 637235%
168 Garcia Gallegos, Pedro [ESP] BUG Delver 24 635256%
169 Gerschenson, Immanuel [AUT] Stoneblade 24 629895%
170 Alkio, Anssi [FIN] BUG Delver 24 621172%
171 ROUSSET, CEDRIC [FRA] Imperial Painter 24 617063%
172 van der Vegt, Jan [NLD] Sneak & Show 24 612776%
173 Mayer, Manuel F [DEU] Death and Taxes 24 611966%
174 CESTARO, Laurent [FRA] Sneak & Show 24 610429%
175 Samuelsson, Rickard [SWE] Tezzeret 24 594841%
176 Dippon, Andreas [DEU] BUG Control 24 586111%
177 van den Brande, Romain [FRA] BUG Delver 24 561808%
178 Würtz, Alexander [DEU] Sneak & Show 24 561121%
179 Darnhofer, Robert [DEU] Affinity 24 540000%
180 Heinrich, Jörg [DEU] Maverick 22 651852%
181 de Castro Sanchez, Iva [ESP] Death and Taxes with Blue 22 584666%
182 Brendemühl, Bernd [DEU] Junk 21 720899%
183 Hammann, Julien [FRA] Junk 21 639286%
184 Borra, Lennaert [NLD] RUG Delver 21 608153%
185 THIL, Stéphane [FRA] Omni-Tell 21 585675%

Grand Superior
02-16-2014, 05:04 PM
Great Data! The only problem is that I think "Storm" is problematic because it makes no distinction between ANT and TES.

And jeez BUG is popular across the Atlantic.

Technics
02-16-2014, 05:27 PM
Great Data! The only problem is that I think "Storm" is problematic because it makes no distinction between ANT and TES.

And jeez BUG is popular across the Atlantic.

Yeah I noticed that too. Not surprising with Wizards hatred of "storm" in general and thus their lack of considering different "storm" decks are different.

But anyways yeah there is a METRIC FUCK TON of BUG and Stoneblade/Delver in that list.

Barook
02-16-2014, 05:30 PM
Looked quickly through the decks (so there might be slight counting errors, feel free to correct me) - even with a conservative count that none of the Merfolk decks ran Brainstorm, we're looking at 68+% Brainstorm decks, reaching ~ 75% Brainstorm decks in the top half (92 decks) and going up to a ridiculous 87,5% Brainstorm representation in the Top 8/16.


And jeez BUG is popular across the Atlantic.
TNN ruins the format. BUG Delver ruins TNN. Do the math.

Einherjer
02-16-2014, 05:36 PM
And Miracles ruins both.

Greetings

Griselpuff
02-16-2014, 05:36 PM
So uh, what was the guy who got DQ'ed playing?

Barook
02-16-2014, 05:58 PM
So uh, what was the guy who got DQ'ed playing?
Since his DQ involved DRS, it was either BUG Delver or Esper Deathblade.

Valtrix
02-16-2014, 05:59 PM
I threw this together quickly for you guys. I opted to just use the deck listings from the Magic site as opposed to trying to debate groupings. I think it gives a nice visual of the top 185 decks.

http://i.imgur.com/pxLCaK1.png

DragoFireheart
02-16-2014, 10:20 PM
And Miracles ruins both.

Greetings

And Reanimator will take first while you guys ruin each other.

Megadeus
02-16-2014, 11:02 PM
4 Imperial Painter is fairly lulzy.

Final Fortune
02-17-2014, 12:34 AM
Great Data! The only problem is that I think "Storm" is problematic because it makes no distinction between ANT and TES.

And jeez BUG is popular across the Atlantic.

BUG is the new RUG, you just need answers to True Name Nemesis and Rest in Peace and Golgari Charm is amazing at both.

lyracian
02-17-2014, 02:12 AM
I threw this together quickly for you guys. I opted to just use the deck listings from the Magic site as opposed to trying to debate groupings. I think it gives a nice visual of the top 185 decks.Thanks that saves me putting it into a spreadsheet.

TheInfamousBearAssassin
02-17-2014, 02:58 AM
4 Imperial Painter is fairly lulzy.

Makes sense with all the blue in the format, although I'm still waiting for U/R Painter.

LOurs
02-17-2014, 04:10 AM
very nice GP, gg to many participants

that said, it appears that BUG is stronger when brainstorm bring 2 cards instead of 1 ... let's hope the winner didnt make that too often ...

at 8h47min, take an look to this quarter-finals : http://www.twitch.tv/magic/b/503812813

not as effective as bertoncini's brainstorms are used to be, but still pretty handy

lsho
02-17-2014, 04:42 AM
very nice GP, gg to many participants

that said, it appears that BUG is stronger when brainstorm bring 2 cards instead of 1 ... let's hope the winner didnt make that too often ...

at 8h47min, take an look to this quarter-finals : http://www.twitch.tv/magic/b/503812813

not as effective as bertoncini's brainstorms are used to be, but still pretty handy

sucks, that they will probably not do anything about it even though it's fairly obvious what he's done.

Raystar
02-17-2014, 04:49 AM
very nice GP, gg to many participants

that said, it appears that BUG is stronger when brainstorm bring 2 cards instead of 1 ... let's hope the winner didnt make that too often ...

at 8h47min, take an look to this quarter-finals : http://www.twitch.tv/magic/b/503812813

not as effective as bertoncini's brainstorms are used to be, but still pretty handy

It wasn't the winner that drew 2 cards but his quarterfinals opponent and it was through his natural draw, not a brainstorm.

LOurs
02-17-2014, 05:10 AM
It wasn't the winner that drew 2 cards but his quarterfinals opponent and it was through his natural draw, not a brainstorm.

I'd be happy to be wrong, so what you're telling is interesting.

But I dont think we're talking about the same sequence or maybe I really didnt understand it ... (and then tell me what I missed)

Here's what I see :

At 8h45, judge is talking.
At 8h47, after the delver attack, Javier (which is actualy the winner) reveals a bs as what it seems to be his natural draw.
He plays it. He looks 3 cards, take 2 in hand, then put 1 of these on the top. Either he got an extra draw for some reason I ignore (then tell me please), or he simply failed to put back 2 cards instead of 1.
Take another look and tell me but to me it seems there's a wrong brainstorm effect...

SirTylerGalt
02-17-2014, 05:18 AM
It wasn't the winner that drew 2 cards but his quarterfinals opponent and it was through his natural draw, not a brainstorm.

Actually, his opponent drew 2 cards in his draw step (and got a warning for looking at extra cards, had to shuffle the 2 cards back in and draw a new card). But you should watch the video at 8h47min. The winner indeed seems to put only one card back from Brainstorm. Weird. Maybe he had two cards in hand before brainstorming?

Raystar
02-17-2014, 05:19 AM
Actually, his opponent drew 2 cards in his draw step (and got a warning for looking at extra cards, had to shuffle the 2 cards back in and draw a new card). But you should watch the video at 8h47min. The winner indeed seems to put only one card back from Brainstorm. Weird. Maybe he had two cards in hand before brainstorming?

I'm going to look at it again....

JDK
02-17-2014, 05:21 AM
I was confused about this too, but other people on stream ignored my observation, you know how busy twitch chatters are :p

Raystar
02-17-2014, 05:23 AM
I'm going to look at it again....

I'm an idiot and you are right...I was looking at what happened before that brainstorm (there was one just a couple minutes before).

I also think that it wasn't a mistake from Javier Ramirez part...it looks pretty intentional...

LOurs
02-17-2014, 05:39 AM
I'm sure that he had 1 card in hand before that sequence, and then he's going on with 3 cards in hand after the bs : land & delver are played just after, and then it remains 1 card in his hand.

The problem is that it is utopical to ask to the judge to be closer from the players than he already was. Plus the streaming was on, many people aside ... and these uber-magical bs are still working.
The fact is that the opponent is clearly unfocused (probably because of the previous judge action) at this moment.
Honestly, the duration of that play makes it at least very suspect, even if I still cant say if it was intentional or not.

Serbitar
02-17-2014, 11:46 AM
Also notice how he 'finishes resolving' Brainstorm, while his opponent is distracted for a brief moment and looks away. Looks very fishy.

Philipp2293
02-17-2014, 12:07 PM
EDIT: Nevermind - Should read the whole thread before hitting the reply button.

Griselpuff
02-17-2014, 08:14 PM
Still, I'd like to know whether Gibert was on RUG, or BUG as there seem to be a disagreement as to whether he was playing DRS or Bolt incorrectly...

Julian23
02-17-2014, 08:20 PM
BREAKING: #GPParis final standings are currently under review.

Michael Keller
02-17-2014, 08:35 PM
BREAKING: #GPParis final standings are currently under review.

Ha - why am I not surprised?

lyracian
02-18-2014, 03:41 AM
Still, I'd like to know whether Gibert was on RUG, or BUG as there seem to be a disagreement as to whether he was playing DRS or Bolt incorrectly...

If you watch the day 2 stream at 7h 40m Rich Hagan announced that Gerardo Gibert was DQ'ed for events involving Deathrite Shaman and opponents losing life when this life loss should not have happened. www.twitch.tv/magic/b/503812813

tyriion
02-18-2014, 04:22 AM
Hi all,

33 van der End, Martijn [NLD] 34
55 Schopman, Balthasar [NLD] 33

Martijn played Shardless BUG and Balthasar played BUG Delver.

dsck
02-18-2014, 09:20 AM
26 Pakka, Esko [FIN] 36 BUG Delver
30 Ihonen, Juha [FIN] 35 BUG Standstill

TheInfamousBearAssassin
02-18-2014, 10:02 AM
Can you get a decklist on the Bug Standstill?

Philipp2293
02-18-2014, 10:37 AM
As far as I know it's the user Nastaboi - I think he announced a report on the UBG Landstill thread.

Griselpuff
02-18-2014, 03:16 PM
Well if nobody can confirm exactly what archetype he was playing I won't put it in. Deathblade isn't team america.

dsck
02-19-2014, 04:50 AM
What deck is Farmville?

SirTylerGalt
02-19-2014, 04:58 AM
What deck is Farmville?

It's an innovative bant land deck:
http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=12902&iddeck=94668

pandaman
02-19-2014, 06:29 AM
Can you get a decklist on the Bug Standstill?

Look to the UBGx Landstill thread in the near future for his report. However, I suspect his decklist is almost the same as the one he used in the Finnish Legacy Champs and the subsequent GPT.