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apple713
02-19-2014, 11:25 PM
peacekeeper
i've been wanting to build a deck with this and other hate bears but I can't quite seem to come up with the proper combination. Peacekeeper seems really strong in the meta right now tho even as a stand alone card.
He stops most builds of elves, sneak and show, merfolk, dredge, and mud. Many of the other top tier decks only have a 4 of as outs which should mean that it should be easy to protect somehow. Rug has bolt, some run forked bolt as well, shard less has abrupt decay, D&T has swords, but many of those don't have multiple outs. If it can be protected then it will usually win those games as their primary strategy is attacking.
Is this just a forgotten creature?
Maybe he doesn't play as good as he reads?
Thoughts?
WorstBandNameEver
02-19-2014, 11:51 PM
There was a recent list at a SCG event for a stax/prison style deck that ran 2 or 3 peacekeeper.
Megadeus
02-20-2014, 12:01 AM
I remember when I proxied up a miracle list about practicing up for an open the list for miracle played 2 of them. It still seems fine. I'm fairly certain that it is GG in game 1 against sneak and Show
apple713
02-20-2014, 12:06 AM
I remember when I proxied up a miracle list about practicing up for an open the list for miracle played 2 of them. It still seems fine. I'm fairly certain that it is GG in game 1 against sneak and Show
if ran with meddling mage mother and spells kite it would be hard to remove even for decks lilke shard less / rug with little removal.
JPoJohnson
02-20-2014, 12:18 AM
I think FarmVille (bant lands) ran it sideboard with wish mainboard
Kap'n Cook
02-20-2014, 12:48 AM
An alternate version of Rw Painter by Sroncor runs a peacekeeper as a recruitable bridge effect
YamiJoey
02-20-2014, 04:27 AM
'Dies to removal' has not been more relevant when there's a 4-mana Enchantment that does something very similar. There's around £100 difference in price, too, so there's that.
Blastoderm
02-20-2014, 11:48 AM
'Dies to removal' has not been more relevant when there's a 4-mana Enchantment that does something very similar. There's around £100 difference in price, too, so there's that.
Except that 4 mana enchantment doesn't stop delver, griselbrand or emrakul from attacking. Which is why it's terrible.
DragoFireheart
02-20-2014, 12:08 PM
Except that 4 mana enchantment doesn't stop delver, griselbrand or emrakul from attacking. Which is why it's terrible.
But a 1/1 do nothing Grislebrand is kinda bad.
Megadeus
02-20-2014, 12:21 PM
Also resolving said 4 mana enchantment can be difficult in a format of Daze and Spell Pierce.
civet five
02-20-2014, 12:35 PM
Humility outclasses Moat in nearly every situation in Legacy (the only real exception is against Empty the Warrens). Arguable where Peacekeeper fits in, but it suffers from being a creature.
nedleeds
02-20-2014, 03:41 PM
elves. goblins. merfolk. maverick. empty. I think I'd rather have Moat. If you are at a precarious life total you might want Moat.
YamiJoey
02-20-2014, 03:46 PM
Peacekeeper makes Terminus bad, and it's difficult to imagine a deck that wants 'Creatures can't attack' and doesn't care for Terminus. Non-Blue control seems... Sketchy.
amalek0
02-20-2014, 05:24 PM
Peacekeeper makes Terminus bad, and it's difficult to imagine a deck that wants 'Creatures can't attack' and doesn't care for Terminus. Non-Blue control seems... Sketchy.
Death and Taxes--nonblue control.
The Mighty Quinn--has seen play, is a control deck.
Parfait--not very common, but is also a nonblue control deck in legacy.
I can imagine a mono white control-ish list (as versus a death and taxes prison style list) becoming viable if the metagame keeps getting pushed by true-name nemesis.
Blastoderm
02-21-2014, 01:31 PM
But a 1/1 do nothing Grislebrand is kinda bad.
The 100 euro price diff was in reference to moat no? Humility is great. Moat is terrible.
Octopusman
02-21-2014, 01:42 PM
Apple might be able to dig up the thread going about hatebear strategy where Peacekeeper was brought up.
I used to run four Peacekeeper main in a UWr deck running Meddling Mage, Moms, etc. I'd win with Jace's ultimate or go beatdown with Magus of the Moon and reach with bolt. I might be able to locate the list.
Super fun. Nothing like seeing a goblin player's face G1 when you drop Peacekeeper. Peacekeeper's great. It's price might go back up to where it was around a couple of years ago.
I could see decay being a problem for it though it didn't exists at the time I was running it.
As the format becomes more creature beatdown dominant, I expect Peacekeeper's viability to rise in some control lists.
The trick is pairing it with a decent, non-combat, win con.:cry:
JPoJohnson
02-21-2014, 03:45 PM
Apple might be able to dig up the thread going about hatebear strategy where Peacekeeper was brought up.
I used to run four Peacekeeper main in a UWr deck running Meddling Mage, Moms, etc. I'd win with Jace's ultimate or go beatdown with Magus of the Moon and reach with bolt. I might be able to locate the list.
Super fun. Nothing like seeing a goblin player's face G1 when you drop Peacekeeper. Peacekeeper's great. It's price might go back up to where it was around a couple of years ago.
I could see decay being a problem for it though it didn't exists at the time I was running it.
As the format becomes more creature beatdown dominant, I expect Peacekeeper's viability to rise in some control lists.
The trick is pairing it with a decent, non-combat, win con.:cry:
Or an alpha-strike win condition. Don't pay the upkeep and win that turn with the combat step.
Secretly.A.Bee
02-22-2014, 01:35 AM
Humility outclasses Moat in nearly every situation in Legacy (the only real exception is against Empty the Warrens). Arguable where Peacekeeper fits in, but it suffers from being a creature.
The exact opposite is often argued in the Miracles thread.
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Final Fortune
02-22-2014, 09:46 AM
Abrupt Decay is enough to keep it from being a really solid MD strategy IMO, it kind of has the same problem as Counterbalance in that respect. Really solid SB card tho', i love me some elf tears.
ShiftyKapree
02-24-2014, 09:29 AM
I use to run Peacekeeper when NO Bant was big I ran three in the sideboard against merfolk, goblins and elves. It was really good till I landed Prog and then just wouldn't pay its upkeep cost. I really miss that rock paper scissors format.
DragoFireheart
02-24-2014, 09:42 AM
Abrupt Decay is enough to keep it from being a really solid MD strategy IMO,
You could say that about almost every single card with a CMC of 3 or less.
Poron
02-24-2014, 11:08 AM
Moat and Peacekeeper will always be bad in a world with Griselbrand.
Each combo deck (but Storm) plays 4. They draw 14 cards and tutor the removal for whatever we're talking about and, then, they swing.
Humility and Phyrexian Revoker are good because they stop this.
And, an early Phyrexian Revoker on Sneak Attack, leaves the poor SneakShow player alone with Show and Tell that lets us to resolve Ensnaring Bridge and Humility for free.
Those matchups are often win like this. An early Needle on Sneak Attack and then a later hate kept in hand for when you see a Show and Tell
Echelon
02-25-2014, 04:01 AM
Peacekeeper isn't that great against Elves! It does nothing to stop the draw engines, meaning they'll just fill up the board and Abrupt Decay the Peacekeeper just before they Craterhoof you to oblivion. When drawing anywhere from 3 to the remainder of their library cards per turn, odds are an Abrupt Decay is found pretty quickly.
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