anti-planeswalker GSZ targets

[SpeedOfDark]

Hi!

Title says it all, name the best anti-planeswalker GSZ targets. Considering all mana costs, but cheaper is obviously better. It can be a narrow sideboard card too, doesn't have to be maindeckable.

Let me know what you think! :D

This is for a nic fit deck, and so far I am running the following cards I would consider "anti-planeswalker" maindeck:
-thrun
-sigarda

[HammafistRoob]

It really depends on the deck you're playing and which planeswalker you are aiming at. Nimble Mongoose is alright, or Knight of the Reliquary fetching up a manland. Or maybe Fauna Shaman to fetch up Phyrexian Revoker.

[Barook]

Sigarda is obviouls pretty good since she gives both Liliana and Jace the finger, but 6 mana is alot to ask for.

[Jay_Gatz]

Terrastodon and Woodfall primus come to mind

[SpeedOfDark]

It really depends on the deck you're playing and which planeswalker you are aiming at. Nimble Mongoose is alright, or Knight of the Reliquary fetching up a manland. Or maybe Fauna Shaman to fetch up Phyrexian Revoker.

It's for a nic fit deck, so its open to pretty much anything, but something like nimble mongoose is probably too narrow.
KotR and Fauna shaman are okay, but I'd rather a card that isn't a 2-turn process. As for which planeswalker to target, preferably JTMS.

[Undomian]

One of our local Nic-Fitters used to play Ifh-Bíff Efreet in his deck as a way to take care of Jace if he had an excess of mana.

[SpeedOfDark]

One of our local Nic-Fitters used to play Ifh-Bíff Efreet (http://magiccards.info/an/en/34.html) in his deck as a way to take care of Jace if he had an excess of mana.

wow. Now that is funky!

Thanks for the info, didn't even know this card existed :P

[Erdvermampfa]

Boggart Ram-Gang

[Wilkin]

wow. Now that is funky!

Thanks for the info, didn't even know this card existed :P

Thragtusk could be another option if it's Jace And Liliana you are most concerned about.

But he doesn't really do a whole lot to Elspeth.

[Zllig]

Thragtusk could be another option if it's Jace And Liliana you are most concerned about.

But he doesn't really do a whole lot to Elspeth.

As a miracles player I can tell you that there is almost nothing I hate to see more than a Thragtusk, good thing no one plays it.

[wcm8]

Nimble Mongoose?

[TheArchitect]

Thrun, Thragtusk, Sigarda, Blitz Hellion, Timbermare, Bloodbraid Elf, Eternal witness getting back maelstrom pulse, primeval titan getting 1-2 treetop villages, creeping tarpits or a phyrexian tower + volrath's stronghold.

Thragtusk, sigarda, primeval titan and witness are the least terrible of those options.

[Megadeus]

That's why I hate nic fit despite it being super sweet. You can't beat a planes walker

[Sigar]

Groundbreaker

[KntrellCL]

Thrun and sigarda are the best answer against PWs

[Finn]

Sylvan Primordial

[eq.firemind]

Timbermare if opposing PW is not too fat.
But that's probably terrible idea in general...

[kingtk3]

Dungrove Elder
Silhana Ledgewalker
Witchstalker
Great Sable Stag
Sylvan Safekeeper

[kingtk3]

On a side note, if planeswalkers give you trouble with NicFit you could try beast within, maybe sideing out some gsz: it deals with any kind of planeswalker and doesn't care about the board state, it's instant so you can play it when your opponent is tapping out in your discard phase and in general will cost you less than Gsz.

Moreover, giving him a 3/3 should not be so problematic for you since you should have plenty of ways to deal with it (or simply ignore it).

[Megadeus]

I forgot Dungrove Elder was a card. Maybe I'll play him in Modern just for fun...

[firebadmattgood]

It's not a gsz target, but Murderous Redcap is great in pod lists and can wreck lilly and jace, as well as being a potential three to four for one versus fair decks.

[Admiral_Arzar]

Great Sable Stag


Oh Lord, is Tom Lapille about to be vindicated? IS THIS THE TIME OF THE STAG?

[Richard Cheese]

Sigarda seems like the best general option in terms of size/utility/cost against both Jace and Lili. You could also go for distributed threats like Deranged Hermit or Hornet Queen

[Mr.C]

Tajuru Preserver?

[SpeedOfDark]

I'm curious about something like Giant Solifuge as an anti-PW target against Miracles. Can't be sotp, has haste, and the trample makes it such that they can't use clique-karakas blocking effectively. It's also not bad just as a clock.

Maybe its just easier to sideboard stuff like maelstrom pulse over specialized awkward green creatures, but it would be nice if there was one that fit the bill because 1. it could save several sideboard slots, and 2. it could potentially trick the opponent into letting you resolve a GSZ when they really shouldn't.

[ironclad8690]

Huntmaster of the Fells shoots for 2 when it flips and creates a wolf token. I'd say that's one of the best targets. Not to mention jace isn't going to be bouncing, and liliana sac will just make you sac the wolf.

[YamiJoey]

That's why I hate nic fit despite it being super sweet. You can't beat a planes walker

Then your deck is bad. Nic Fit should not have problems with Planeswalkers. Either you just Punishing Grove them to death, or you attack them with your obscene number of incredibly overcosted Creatures.

Each 'Walker is different, not just in what they do, but in the decks they are in, and such the protection they have. Attacking Jace is fine against Miracles as they MUST use removal or start throwing Cliques at your Creatures, which is mostly fine anyway. Against Stoneblade this is much less feasable, as there's probably a protection Sword, a 4/4 Lifelinker, or some number of Jitte Counters making your life hard.

You could always just crop Rotate a Scapeshift into play and Bolt them.

[HammafistRoob]

I assume you meant Crop Rotate into Valakut? That could work in some cases, or they just counter your Rotation and blow you out. Idk, Timbermare actually seems kinda good at k.oing 'Walkers.

[TsumiBand]

Too bad Woodfall Primus is so flipping costly. If not a GSZ target, not bad with NO. Though I guess you may as well 'just win' with Natural Order.

I kind of like the Timbermare/Solifuge ideas. Groundbreaker is randomly funny but it can never stick :(

[Fatal]

Played for a while with timbermare in Maverick which doesn't have so much resources and it was ok - favorite combo:
GSZ for Timbermare, your scryb ranger -> untap Knight -> Lethal..

[ironclad8690]

Played for a while with timbermare in Maverick which doesn't have so much resources and it was ok - favorite combo:
GSZ for Timbermare, your scryb ranger -> untap Knight -> Lethal..

Timbermare sounds pretty sweet! No one would see that coming in a million years.