U/G Eureka & Show

[atopebenidorm]

3 Emrakul
4 Griselbrand
2 Snapcaster Mage

4 Brainstorm
4 Force of will
4 Show and tell
3 Eureka
2 Intuition

3 Omniscience

2 Sensei´s divining top
4 Lotus petal

4 Island
2 Forest
3 tropical island
1 Polluted Delta
2 Wooded Foothills
4 Misty rainforest
4 Ancient tomb

Side:
4 Leyline of sanctity
2 Boseiju, who selters all
2 Echoing Truth
2 Krosan Grip
2 Defense Grid
3 Carpet of Flowers

An old deck. I think could be competitive with some testing. Nicol Bolas is a great card with Eureka. Any suggestion?, somebody play eureka right now?

[Michael Keller]

3 Omniscience
3 Dream halls
4 Show and tell
4 Eureka
3 Emrakul
4 Griselbrand
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of will
4 Nicol Bolas, planeswalker
2 Intuition
3 Lotus petal
6 Island
3 Forest
2 tropical island
1 Wooded Foothills
4 Misty rainforest
2 City of traitors
4 Ancient tomb

Side:
4 Leyline of sanctity*
3 Unexpected Results
2 Krosan Grip
3 Defense Grid*
3 Carpet of Flowers

An old deck. I think could be competitive with some testing. Nicol Bolas is a great card with Eureka. Any suggestion?, somebody play eureka right now?

I would try and find a way to fit a pair of Gitaxian Probes in there somewhere. The card is amazing in decks like these, as is discarding it to play a Nicol Bolas.

[atopebenidorm]

Yes, Gitaxian Probe could be fine without Unexpected Results. Other interesting idea is Living wish to search lands like Boseiju or creatures like Ashen Rider or Iona.

Even, copy Sneak Attack decks, the deck could be play without Omniscience to increase the number of cantrips and add 2 copies of Dream Halls to cast Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker. I think Nicol bolas is more powerfull than Griselbrand and Emrakul and help us removing hate cards like humility, ensnaring bridge, planeswalkers, karakas...and win condition.

If we want add more creatures, exists a green card that is perfect in this construction: Animal Magnetism. It don´t need cards in hand, very interesting card. we could add more creatures like Progenitus, Terastodon or Ashen Rider.

[atopebenidorm]

Finally I decide to play with Living Wish. I think is better option because the principal win condition is introducing a omnisicience.

I don´t understand people play omnitell and sneak & show but they don´t play Eureka: It could be a exotic but interesting option, better than hypergenesis. My current list.

2 x Emrakul, the aeons thorn
2 x Snapcaster Mage
4 x Griselbrand

4 x Omniscience
3 x Jace, the mind sculptor

4 x Brainstorm
4 x Ponder
4 x Force of will
4 x Living Wish
4 x Show and Tell
3 x Eureka
2 x Intuition

4 x Ancient Tomb
3 x tropical island
3 x Forest
3 x island
4 x Misty Rainforest
1 x Wooded Foothills
2 x Polluted Delta

side:

4 x Leyline of Sanctity
2 x Echoing Truth
1 x Krosan grip
1 x Jin Gitaxias, core augur
1 x Emrakul
1 x Tidespout tyrant
1 x Boseiju, who selters all
1 x Tropical island
3 x Carpet of Flowers
1 x Snapcaster Mage

Very cool!!

[JPoJohnson]

What made you choose eureka over hypergenesis?

[atopebenidorm]

What made you choose eureka over hypergenesis?

It´s very easy. Hypergenesys-cascade is an all-in style deck like belcher without cantrips. Eureka is like Sneak Attack or Dream halls, is the second way to introduce some stuff, but Omniscience is not playable with Sneak attack and Emrakul or Griselbrand are not playable with dream halls (You only have 4 black cards).

With hypergenesis, the hate cards are much more effective. You can´t use cantrips and you probably lose if the the first spell you play is countered, because you spend all the monkeys and spirits in it. Every deck Plays Force of will and others play spell pierce, is very hard spend 2-3 times a spell in a hypergenesis deck

The cuestion is: Eureka Vs Sneak Attack or Dream Halls.

With Omniscience, Eureka is the winner. And cards like Boseiju, Snapcaster and living wish give recurrence and some toolbox. They are very nice because you can use with Show and tell.

[frogger42]

3 Emrakul
4 Griselbrand
2 Snapcaster Mage

4 Brainstorm
4 Force of will
4 Show and tell
3 Eureka
2 Intuition

3 Omniscience

2 Sensei´s divining top
4 Lotus petal

4 Island
2 Forest
3 tropical island
1 Polluted Delta
2 Wooded Foothills
4 Misty rainforest
4 Ancient tomb

Side:
4 Leyline of sanctity
2 Boseiju, who selters all
2 Echoing Truth
2 Krosan Grip
2 Defense Grid
3 Carpet of Flowers

An old deck. I think could be competitive with some testing. Nicol Bolas is a great card with Eureka. Any suggestion?, somebody play eureka right now?

Sneak Attack = One-Sided Eureka. Much nicer on the mana requirements, too.

[atopebenidorm]

Right now I am playing the 3.0 version of the deck. This construction is much efficient, very similar than omnitell.

4 Griselbrand
2 Snapcaster Mage

4 Living Wish
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of will
4 Show and tell
4 Ponder
3 Eureka
2 Intuition

4 Omniscience
3 Jace, the mind sculptor
2 Nicol Bolas, planeswalker

3 Island
2 Forest
3 tropical island
1 Polluted Delta
2 Wooded Foothills
4 Misty rainforest
4 Ancient tomb
1 City of traitors

Side:

4 Leyline of sanctity
1 Boseiju, who selters all
2 Echoing Truth
1 Krosan Grip
3 Carpet of Flowers
1 Emrakul
1 Tidespout tyrant
1 Snapcaster mage
1 Karakas

[atopebenidorm]

Actually Ugin is the upgrade of nicol bolas because We could cast it from hand and Dig through time is a fabulous card. I thin this deck is very playable and Eureka is a 300 $ card. New ideas:

4 Griselbrand

4 Brainstorm
4 Force of will
4 Show and tell
4 Ponder
3 Dig through time
3 Eureka
2 Spell pierce
2 Intuition

4 Omniscience
3 Jace, the mind sculptor
3 Ugin, the spirit dragon

3 Island
2 Forest
3 tropical island
1 Polluted Delta
2 Verdant catacombs
4 Misty rainforest
4 Ancient tomb
1 City of traitors

Side:

4 Leyline of sanctity
2 Boseiju, who selters all
4 Carpet of Flowers
3 Defense grid
2 Ratchet bomb

[Madmankevinx]

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?26400-deck-Eureka!

[atopebenidorm]

http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?26400-deck-Eureka!

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[atopebenidorm]

Today 4-1 Vs:

1) ANT (2-1)
2) Sneak and show (1-2)
3) Scepter control (2-1)
4) Patriot control (2-0)
5) Lands (2-0)

The decklist:

2 Emrakul
4 Griselbrand

4 Omniscience
4 Eureka
4 Show and tell

4 Force of will
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
3 Dig through time
2 spell pierce

2 Sensei´s divining top
4 Lotus petal

2 Island
2 Forest
4 tropical island
1 Polluted delta
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Verdant catacombs
4 Misty rainforest
3 Ancient tomb
1 City of traitors

Side:
4 Leyline of sanctity
4 Carpet of Flowers
2 Boseiju, who selters all
1 Flusterstorm
2 Ugin, the spirit dragon
2 Rushing river

Eureka is a card. Boseiju was the best card of sideboard today. First time and 4-1 is a good result.

[Madmankevinx]

I always used to run more of a spread out number of threats since Eureka and 2 Griselbrand in the hand isn't really abusing eurekas power. Run a Progenitus and maybe an elesh norn and maybe a blightsteel colossus to add those explosive eurekas in case your opponent has some way of eliminating your threat (Karakas. Knight of the reliquary. Oblivion ring etc). Oh and yes nicol bolas, karn and ugin should be one-ofs in a eureka deck. I even experimented with a quicken or two for instant speed show and tell/eureka which always if resolved won me the game right there.

[atopebenidorm]

I always used to run more of a spread out number of threats since Eureka and 2 Griselbrand in the hand isn't really abusing eurekas power. Run a Progenitus and maybe an elesh norn and maybe a blightsteel colossus to add those explosive eurekas in case your opponent has some way of eliminating your threat (Karakas. Knight of the reliquary. Oblivion ring etc). Oh and yes nicol bolas, karn and ugin should be one-ofs in a eureka deck. I even experimented with a quicken or two for instant speed show and tell/eureka which always if resolved won me the game right there.

Omniscience gives all you need. You dont need add more random creatures or planeswalkers because griselbrand and emrakul are The best. I maybe add some pitting needle because combat sneak attack, karakas and too many good cards like planeswalkers for example.

Quicken is a very good idea. I will test it

[KobeBryan]

I don't see how this deck is stronger than the Omnitell.

If you are playing eureka, you gotta play more planeswalker to abuse the card. Otherwise, you can just stick with Omnitell and then just focus on dropping emruhkal, omniscience.

Also, wouldn't having 4 griselbrand be counterintuitive since it has legendary. I know you want to drop the card asap as the win con, but I think the key would be to focus on dropping omniscience and playing dig through time to get the next win con to win.

[atopebenidorm]

I don't see how this deck is stronger than the Omnitell.

If you are playing eureka, you gotta play more planeswalker to abuse the card. Otherwise, you can just stick with Omnitell and then just focus on dropping emruhkal, omniscience.

Also, wouldn't having 4 griselbrand be counterintuitive since it has legendary. I know you want to drop the card asap as the win con, but I think the key would be to focus on dropping omniscience and playing dig through time to get the next win con to win.

People think play an eureka is put 3 or more creatures or planeswalkers all the time. You can win with only one Griselbrand, omniscience or Emrakul like a show and tell.

I don´t know if omnitell or sneak attack are strongly than this deck, but omnitell only win with show + omniscience and this situation is more particular than show + eureka + omniscience + emrakul or griselbrand. This deck is like a Sneak and show, but eureka gives you another way to play omniscience and planeswalker like ugin.

Sneak and show only can win with creatures like this deck, but have an omniscience + cantrips like digh through time or griselbrand is the way to find a response or a Ugin and play it inmediately.

The other decks are very played and people play an optimized decklist. I hope some proplayer plays the deck and improve other solutions, but Eureka with omniscience is a card.

[KobeBryan]

I completely agree with you that omniscience is the key card to play with.

I'm saying you should abuse the eureka card MORE by using planeswalker instead of having 4 grisels.

[atopebenidorm]

I completely agree with you that omniscience is the key card to play with.

I'm saying you should abuse the eureka card MORE by using planeswalker instead of having 4 grisels.

Ok.

Show and tell + Griselbrand gives you too many card advantage and wins.

Planeswalkers like ugin are cards to play Vs hate creatures like Humillity or ensnaring bridge. Griselbrand and Emrakul are enough to win and better than planeswalkers.

[KobeBryan]

Ok.

Show and tell + Griselbrand gives you too many card advantage.

Planeswalkers like ugin are cards to play Vs hate creatures like Humillity or ensnaring bridge. Griselbrand and Emrakul are enough to win

Understand, However, you can also win with grisel via reanimator and sneak attack.

I'm saying why should we play this deck over the other two.

I own 3 eurekas and would love for it to jump to the 200 dollar range. But we need a way to construct this deck that would far exceed those decks that are currently in the tier deck levels. What separates this deck from the other. Im guessing planeswalker, but I haven't played this deck yet.

[atopebenidorm]

Understand, However, you can also win with grisel via reanimator and sneak attack.

I'm saying why should we play this deck over the other two.

I own 3 eurekas and would love for it to jump to the 200 dollar range. But we need a way to construct this deck that would far exceed those decks that are currently in the tier deck levels. What separates this deck from the other. Im guessing planeswalker, but I haven't played this deck yet.

Is another show and tell deck, between sneak & show and omnitell.

I´m happy if you test it and say me your opinion.

The reasons for me are Omniscience, Boseiju and Ugin. Carpet of flowers helps Vs soft counter or delver decks and they are very important in a deck with 3-4 mana cost cards.

[Karhumies]

you can also win with grisel via reanimator and sneak attack.

I'm saying why should we play this deck over the other two.

As for Reanimator: this deck is not vulnerable to SB Grafdigger's cage, Tormod's Crypt, Relic of Progenitus, etc. in g2/g3.

As for Sneaky Show: Sneak Attack brings red support cards, Eureka brings green support cards. The moment someone figures out a green pre-combo support card which beats red pre-combo support cards, we have answered this question. MD Deathrite Shaman or Elvish Spirit Guide for acceleration? SB Xantid Swarm or Vexing Shusher to push the combo through? With blue color running rampant all over the Legacy scene, access to red blasts is tough to compete with due to the versatility of the blasts. Carpet of Flowers does provide extra mana against tax counters, though.

[atopebenidorm]

As for Reanimator: this deck is not vulnerable to SB Grafdigger's cage, Tormod's Crypt, Relic of Progenitus, etc. in g2/g3.

As for Sneaky Show: Sneak Attack brings red support cards, Eureka brings green support cards. The moment someone figures out a green pre-combo support card which beats red pre-combo support cards, we have answered this question. MD Deathrite Shaman or Elvish Spirit Guide for acceleration? SB Xantid Swarm or Vexing Shusher to push the combo through? With blue color running rampant all over the Legacy scene, access to red blasts is tough to compete with due to the versatility of the blasts. Carpet of Flowers does provide extra mana against tax counters, though.

Boseiju gives you 1 mana and the non-counterable effect. Xantid swarm don´t add mana and is very vulnerable. In my opinion add small creatures is not a good idea. Elvish spirit guide is testeable, but you lose the Ancient tomb-Lotus petal option.

I think REB is used for non-blue decks to combat show and tell and jace, but in our case show and tell is not a problem :tongue:. Yes is a very good card, but we could play BEB or flusterstorm to combat Sneak attack and ANT. Agree with your argument

[KobeBryan]

I tested this deck yesterday for about 5 games

2 against delver decks 1-1
1 against DNT 0-1
1 against a hymn deck 1-0
1 jund 1-0

Bombs to cheat in
4 Omniscience
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Griselbrand

4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
2 Gitaxian Probe
2 Misdirection
4 Preordain

Cheaters
4 Show and Tell
3 Eureka

2 Island
2 Ancient Tomb
2 Crystal Vein
3 Scalding Tarn
3 Dig Through Time
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Tropical Island
2 Forest
1 Polluted Delta


SB: 2 Misdirection
SB: 2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 1 Ashen Rider
SB: 1 Blightsteel Colossus
SB: 3 Carpet of Flowers

The reason i have these cards is because these are the cards I actually own.

My thoughts, My 4 misdirections blew out the hymn deck. It was nasty. However, if they drop a liliana, it may be lights out if you do not have a high enough hand count.

I basically played the deck as if I'm playing omnitell. I have lotus petals, but I found that lotus petals were not necessary when I played omnitell. Its just a card I draw that doesn't do too much except speed up the game for me. I rather play more consistent.

My issues, 3 eurekas were sometimes too much especially when I need to wait to cast it at 4 mana. I think 2 would be ideal. I may take it out to put in personal tutor so I essentially get 5 show and tells. This is just a thought.

The key play is to drop omniscience, no matter what. Everything else can be a sideshow for the omniscience.

I found that I could not win right away with this deck after dropping griselbrand. This may need to go. It took me 2 more turns to win. WIth omnitell I can figure a way to win with a chain of events such as dig, then cunning wish, then draw what i need for the win con. I cannot do it with this.

Hate bears. This deck cannot handle it. Needs more testing. I have massacre with omnitell.

[atopebenidorm]

I tested this deck yesterday for about 5 games

2 against delver decks 1-1
1 against DNT 0-1
1 against a hymn deck 1-0
1 jund 1-0

Bombs to cheat in
4 Omniscience
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Griselbrand

4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
2 Gitaxian Probe
2 Misdirection
4 Preordain

Cheaters
4 Show and Tell
3 Eureka

2 Island
2 Ancient Tomb
2 Crystal Vein
3 Scalding Tarn
3 Dig Through Time
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Tropical Island
2 Forest
1 Polluted Delta


SB: 2 Misdirection
SB: 2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 1 Ashen Rider
SB: 1 Blightsteel Colossus
SB: 3 Carpet of Flowers

The reason i have these cards is because these are the cards I actually own.

My thoughts, My 4 misdirections blew out the hymn deck. It was nasty. However, if they drop a liliana, it may be lights out if you do not have a high enough hand count.

I basically played the deck as if I'm playing omnitell. I have lotus petals, but I found that lotus petals were not necessary when I played omnitell. Its just a card I draw that doesn't do too much except speed up the game for me. I rather play more consistent.

My issues, 3 eurekas were sometimes too much especially when I need to wait to cast it at 4 mana. I think 2 would be ideal. I may take it out to put in personal tutor so I essentially get 5 show and tells. This is just a thought.

The key play is to drop omniscience, no matter what. Everything else can be a sideshow for the omniscience.

I found that I could not win right away with this deck after dropping griselbrand. This may need to go. It took me 2 more turns to win. WIth omnitell I can figure a way to win with a chain of events such as dig, then cunning wish, then draw what i need for the win con. I cannot do it with this.

Hate bears. This deck cannot handle it. Needs more testing. I have massacre with omnitell.

I think petals are very important. You must test it.

I play a decklist with similar structure like sneak and show.

Not bad results If You play it for The first time. I like Your Omnitell way and i expect your next impression!

[KobeBryan]

Bombs to cheat in (9)
4 Omniscience
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 nicol bolas
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

spells (19)
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
2 Misdirection
4 Preordain
1 personal tutor

Cheaters (7)
4 Show and Tell
3 Eureka

Mana (24)
2 Island
2 Ancient Tomb
2 Crystal Vein
3 Scalding Tarn
3 Dig Through Time
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Tropical Island
2 Forest
3 lotus petal



SB: 2 Misdirection
SB: 2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 1 Ashen Rider
SB: 1 Blightsteel Colossus
SB: 3 Carpet of Flowers

Just played another 3 set of games

Jank reanimator (1-2) - Beat him game 1 with an emruhkal with omni. Game 2, he won with griselbrand, game 3, i drop an emruhkal, but he plays grisel, then LED for more creatures which i couldn't defend all of it even after swinging with 6 annihilator .

Jank Vengevine madness (2-0) - Game 1 emrukhal. Game 2 i play Ugin and Nicol bolas. I was able to control the board and then eventually drop an emrukahl via omniscience.

Omnitell (0-2) - game 2. he just goes off fast, turn 2 show and tell, omni, dig and drop enter the infinite. game 1 i have a jace and just slow plays it eventually he drops an omni and digs and enter the infinite.

My further impressions: This deck should not be played like sneak and show. The only reason sneak attack works is because it has haste and the emrukal triggers can help wipe the other side's board for you to go for the win. Yes, we have omniscience and can get timewalk for the swing. This is how we win.

Playing planeswalkers are SLOW. Doesn't win the game. This deck should be played with Eureka as show and tell 5-7 instead of using it for planeswalkers. I think this deck would benefit more if we drop the planeswalkers, use the extra space to play like omni with cunning wishes and just for the win on the turn it comes down. This is my feeling. Even with griselbrand, it will not win the game on the turn it comes down. It controls the board, but thats about it. People have ways to still win with a grisel on the board.

Final thoughts, i'm not sure whether you should weaken the mana base from omnitell by splashing green. Omni can still play dreamhalls (though it kills all your cards), so i'm not sure whether using duals would be worth it in this deck. Also green doesn't have answers to annoying hate bears.

[atopebenidorm]

Bombs to cheat in (9)
4 Omniscience
2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 nicol bolas
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

spells (19)
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
2 Misdirection
4 Preordain
1 personal tutor

Cheaters (7)
4 Show and Tell
3 Eureka

Mana (24)
2 Island
2 Ancient Tomb
2 Crystal Vein
3 Scalding Tarn
3 Dig Through Time
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Tropical Island
2 Forest
3 lotus petal



SB: 2 Misdirection
SB: 2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
SB: 1 Ashen Rider
SB: 1 Blightsteel Colossus
SB: 3 Carpet of Flowers

Just played another 3 set of games

Jank reanimator (1-2) - Beat him game 1 with an emruhkal with omni. Game 2, he won with griselbrand, game 3, i drop an emruhkal, but he plays grisel, then LED for more creatures which i couldn't defend all of it even after swinging with 6 annihilator .

Jank Vengevine madness (2-0) - Game 1 emrukhal. Game 2 i play Ugin and Nicol bolas. I was able to control the board and then eventually drop an emrukahl via omniscience.

Omnitell (0-2) - game 2. he just goes off fast, turn 2 show and tell, omni, dig and drop enter the infinite. game 1 i have a jace and just slow plays it eventually he drops an omni and digs and enter the infinite.

My further impressions: This deck should not be played like sneak and show. The only reason sneak attack works is because it has haste and the emrukal triggers can help wipe the other side's board for you to go for the win. Yes, we have omniscience and can get timewalk for the swing. This is how we win.

Playing planeswalkers are SLOW. Doesn't win the game. This deck should be played with Eureka as show and tell 5-7 instead of using it for planeswalkers. I think this deck would benefit more if we drop the planeswalkers, use the extra space to play like omni with cunning wishes and just for the win on the turn it comes down. This is my feeling. Even with griselbrand, it will not win the game on the turn it comes down. It controls the board, but thats about it. People have ways to still win with a grisel on the board.

Final thoughts, i'm not sure whether you should weaken the mana base from omnitell by splashing green. Omni can still play dreamhalls (though it kills all your cards), so i'm not sure whether using duals would be worth it in this deck. Also green doesn't have answers to annoying hate bears.


Agree with your planeswalkers opinion. I only use Vs karakas or non- combo decks.

I think different because i dont believe the deck could be used like omnitell. Omnitell only have 5 nonland permanents, with eureka is not good. Drop planeswalkers and add Griselbrands, you could play cunning wish instead planeswalkers too.

[Karhumies]

I think petals are very important. You must test it.

Generating GG mana vs 4 Wasteland 4 Stifle deck is very difficult. This is where the MD petal comes in. Elvish Spirit Guide is an alternative. Not as flexible in colors but goes around Chalice @ 0, Phyrexian Revoker and helps a bit vs unexpected Hymn and Liliana.

Downside? Sol land + petal = t1 SnT. Sol land + guide = facepalm.

[Karhumies]

Also, against Heavy black discard there is SB Leyline of Sanctity, Divert and Reap.

Against Planeswalkers and all-around, Pithing Needle or Phyrexian Revoker.

[atopebenidorm]

Yesterday with same decklist and sideboard:

2-0 vs UR Delver
2-0 vs the rock
2-0 vs Bug delver
2-1 vs death and taxes
2-0 vs miracles

The deck is a rocket! I will add some Pitthing needles on sideboard vs hate cards. Ugin do everything vs creatures or control decks.

I really think dig through time upgrades this deck vs sneak and show.

I do it again:

2-0 vs elves
2-1 vs gwb zenith
2-0 vs sneak and show
2-1 vs Bug shardless
2-1 vs patriot delver

I add pithing needles instead rushing river and carpet of flowers. I hope somebody test this deck too.

[atopebenidorm]

Yesterday I made top 8 in a 47 players tournament In the first position In rounds with:

2 Emrakul
4 Griselbrand

4 Omniscience
4 Eureka
4 Show and tell

4 Force of will
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
3 Dig through time

2 Sensei´s divining top
4 Lotus petal

2 Island
2 Forest
2 Boseiju, who selters all
4 tropical island
1 Polluted delta
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Verdant catacombs
4 Misty rainforest
3 Ancient tomb
1 City of traitors

Side:
4 Leyline of sanctity
3 Carpet of Flowers
1 swang song
2 Spel pierce
1 Flusterstorm
2 Ugin, the spirit dragon
2 Rushing river

I lost Vs sneak and show again. I Will add pithing needle the next time at all or Maybe add some thoughtseize.

[atopebenidorm]

Joe Herrera plays a interest version without dig through time. I think is an error but he goes 6/9 in day 1 on scg legacy open series. See the deck tech: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/eurekatell_with_joseph_herrera.html

[alaska]

Joe Herrera plays a interest version without dig through time. I think is an error but he goes 6/9 in day 1 on scg legacy open series. See the deck tech: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/eurekatell_with_joseph_herrera.html

I was really excited to see that deck tech.

Anyone know if he posts here and would be willing to do a quick write-up?

[bruizar]

If you're playing SNT and Eureka, I would suggest you take a look at the old Aeon bridge lists too. Those use Mosswort Bridge and Dreadnaughts in addition to the other cards.

[maCHOOga]

As soon as I saw the SCG deck tech last weekend, I was intrigued. I played at my local event to a 1-2 finish with the "stock" Scg list. Both of my loses were marginally close games. So I went to the drawing board.

I only managed to find 3 eurekas, so I substituted the 4th for an intuition. I also didn't like the idea of daze in a deck with a 4 cmc spell, so I switched over to a spell pierces.

Played my updated list to a 4-1 finish in Swiss and lost in top8. Overall was very pleased with the result.

It seems like death and taxes is the worst matchup. Between them naturally having Karakas and flickerwhisp being an allstar against a eureka-Ugin. Not to mention the ethersworn cannonists and containment priests post SB.

Meddling Mage also gave me trouble, but eventually I was able to power through it.

Is there any blue/green cards to hose death and taxes over? Without getting greedy and splashing a 3rd color.

Lastly, side boarding seems very hard with this deck, as you need to be careful not to overboard.

The only card I haven't utilized is leyline of sanctity. I'm assuming it's purpose is for A.) ANT/TEST B.) Burn and C.) Discard heavy decks?

[KobeBryan]

As soon as I saw the SCG deck tech last weekend, I was intrigued. I played at my local event to a 1-2 finish with the "stock" Scg list. Both of my loses were marginally close games. So I went to the drawing board.

I only managed to find 3 eurekas, so I substituted the 4th for an intuition. I also didn't like the idea of daze in a deck with a 4 cmc spell, so I switched over to a spell pierces.

Played my updated list to a 4-1 finish in Swiss and lost in top8. Overall was very pleased with the result.

It seems like death and taxes is the worst matchup. Between them naturally having Karakas and flickerwhisp being an allstar against a eureka-Ugin. Not to mention the ethersworn cannonists and containment priests post SB.

Meddling Mage also gave me trouble, but eventually I was able to power through it.

Is there any blue/green cards to hose death and taxes over? Without getting greedy and splashing a 3rd color.

Lastly, side boarding seems very hard with this deck, as you need to be careful not to overboard.

The only card I haven't utilized is leyline of sanctity. I'm assuming it's purpose is for A.) ANT/TEST B.) Burn and C.) Discard heavy decks?

Stifle.

[Mr. Headshot]

Nice deck. Love to see some testing results

[Fox]

Is there any blue/green cards to hose death and taxes over? Without getting greedy and splashing a 3rd color.
torpor orb.

[atopebenidorm]

Engineered explosives is a good way to deal with creatures, artifacts or enchantments.

[maCHOOga]

Engineered explosives is a good way to deal with creatures, artifacts or enchantments.

This I can get behind.

In my current build I'm also running side boarded creatures for the Omnitell Match. First I tried sideboarded tarmogoyfs, but realized they can get chumped all day long by elemental tokens. The latest build is playing hooting mandrills sideboard. Its still seems risky to just jam show and tell against that deck. I also don't like chewing up 3 sideboard slots. I do like the option of attacking from a different angle on game 3 however.

[KobeBryan]

Anyone see the top 8

[Webb]

Anyone see the top 8

I did, congrats to the deck builder if he posts on here.

[James718]

Any updates to this list?

I was going to try out Hererra's list this weekend.

I do feel that switching Daze's to spell pierces might be nice.

Another change is cutting an Omniscience (or all of them) for more threats.

[James718]

I have been using This List (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/eurekatell-1/) lately

Land (20)
3x Ancient Tomb
2x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1x City of Traitors
4x Flooded Strand
2x Island
4x Polluted Delta
4x Tropical Island

Creature (5)
2x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
3x Griselbrand

Sorcery (16)
4x Eureka
4x Ponder
4x Preordain
4x Show and Tell

Instant (8)
4x Brainstorm
4x Force of Will

Planeswalker (3)
1x Karn Liberated
2x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

Enchantment (4)
4x Omniscience
Artifact (4)
4x Lotus Petal

Sideboard (15)
1x Ashen Rider
1x Chain of Vapor
2x Flusterstorm
1x Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
3x Krosan Grip
4x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Mana Maze
1x Tidespout Tyrant

This is a video of me playing it on stream
(http://www.twitch.tv/southfloridamagic/v/45094491?t=51m14s)

The decks main problem is early aggro. I am thinking of upping the counter magic, adding a Progenitus and another ashen rider.

I also think an Intuition may be good in here.

Any thoughts?

[Morden]

Hi everyone!
if someone is still playing this deck, I 'd like to discuss about some strategies :smile:

hope I'm not alone here!:laugh:

[James718]

Hi everyone!
if someone is still playing this deck, I 'd like to discuss about some strategies :smile:

hope I'm not alone here!:laugh:

ME!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ragdoll]

ME!!!!!!!!!!!

Could you eloborate? :tongue: I wonder how the most recent ug decklists look like now :smile:

[Morden]

So happy to reanimate the thread :D!
I'm new to this deck, so maybe my doubts are very stupid, but let's try. First of all, I mostly tested this deck goldfishing in force, trying to get the most optimized build. Here are my thoughts:

1) daze vs spell pierce. This regards also the classical omni build maybe. Anyway I prefer daze, I spend my turn using cantrips, opponents' EOT for brainstorm or sensei, I prefer to have a free counter rather than stay open with 1 blue. I know that daze is less efficient in late game and with no denial, but this deck is build to avoid late game, I prefer to avoid early menaces. Daze is great also against discards.

2) lotus petal/ESG/fast mana: I really don't know if they deserve slots or not. IF you start with them in hand and you have some combo ready, of course they are great. But in late game they are useless. If you don't have some combo in the first turns, they are useless. Post-omni they are useless. Some one can argue that if you put griselbrand in play with eureka or S&T, with no omni, you can draw 7/14 to find some petals and S&T again into omni. Well, I tried, it's not so easy to do this: I mean, it's possible, but it's a plan that I don't like. In general: why should I have 3/4 cards that are useful sometimes rather than having 3/4 more cantrips, that are always useful (pre and post omni)?

3) number of eureka: in my tests I started with 3 eureka. But I found difficult to combo out with it. Against wasteland reach 2 green can be an issue (yes, we have lotus petal.......). Eureka can be risky with some deck: eldrazi, D&T, tribal decks basically put all their hands down. If you have only a griselbrand or an emrakul, we are in a bad situation. The safest and best plan is S&T into omni, period. But there is a reason why I like this green version of the deck: also 1 eureka is +25% to put an omniscence into play, and post side I like to have a B plan against cards like surgical extraction or slaughter game. So, what do you think about 1 eureka mainboard and 1 sideboard? I really really like green also for some cards like xantid swarm and krosan grip, they win some games by theirselves.

4) planeswalkers/fatty boys: I don't like cunning wish, and since we have eureka I think is better to have griselbrand instead cunning. So 2 emrakul+3 griselbrand I think is the perfect number. Ugin is SO powerful, this card wins alone also if the opponent puts everything into the battlefield after an eureka. BUT there are a lot of eldrazi around.....against them ugin is very very weak. basically it can kill only the mimic. Too risky: I'm very sad, but I think playing 2 ugin is dangerous nowadays. I changed one ugin with nicol bolas: not so great, but at the moment I don't know exactly how to do.......cut a griselbrand for another ugin and keep nicol?

that's all (today! :D)

[maCHOOga]

I haven't hopped back on the Eureka train, but I've been thinking about it. My metagame is playing very fair magic at the moment, so I've been contemplating playing unfair magic to beat them senseless.

I feel like there are plenty of ways to get around tribal and eldrazi...
Platinum emperion is a 8/8 which requires double dismember from eldrazi, swords from D&T,

Maybe someone should investigate a living wish SB for this deck. One can get silver bullet creatures and lands (Bosieju / Sol Land).

I always liked the Plan B angle of attack. I wonder if Thing in the Ice has a spot in SB. There are 28+ spells in this deck. :-)

[Morden]

nice to see you here machooga :D

At the moment I'm testing also UB omnitell and sadly (i really really like UG splash) I think it's better. Thoughtseize/duress are cards that can win the game by themselves if used correctly. Green has a lot of dead cards, eureka is difficult to cast against wasteland deck; after S&T->omni->griselbrand you can find nothing, or sometimes you don't have 7 life points to use (or 11 at least against bolt); it's reality, strongest decks put pressure on the opponent (eldrazi, D&T, grixis) or heavy control (miracle, UBG), or both. Waiting third round cantripping and try to protect the combo with counterspell isn't the greatest way to win in this game IMHO. :frown: