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Tempus
05-13-2014, 08:28 AM
So we have a play group where we orient ourselves to the Vintage B&R list. As this is still casual there are no money cards involved (duals, fetchies or anything else above $40).

I thought about adding an elves deck and a Melira deck to the available decks. And I was wondering how to do this.
There is a Reanimator deck and Artifact Deck (with Platinum Angel and Blightsteel Colossus)

Elves:

1 Dryad Arbor
14 Forest
1 Pendelhaven
2 Nyktos, Shrine to Nyx

2 Deathrite Shaman
4 Wirewood Symbiote
4 Llanowar Elves
3 Birchlore Ranger
2 Priest of Titania
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Heritage Druid
4 Nettle Sentinel
2 Quirion Ranger
1 Viridian Shaman
2 Craterhoof Behemoth

2 Skullclamp
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Glimpse of Nature


As Cradles are out of the question, Nyktos and Priests will have to do. 4 Glimpse and 2 Skullclamp should be enough draw combined with the Wirewood Symbiote and Visionaries. Behemoths are always fun, so they were included.
One thing that would play nice with Skullclamp are Wirewood Hivemasters, but the Tokens don't help with Nyktos...

Now to the Melira deck. I'm not sure, which colors to play and if the Birthing Pod or the Survival of the Fittest version would be better...


10 Forest
9 Swamp
1 Volrath Stronghold

1 Memnite
4 Birds of Paradise
3 Viscer Seer
3 Basking Rootwalla
3 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
2 Kitchen Finks
2 Big Game Hunter
1 Murderous Redcap
4 Vengevine
2 Acidic Slime

4 Survival of the Fittest
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sorin Markov


Also no idea what else to put in the deck for the last 5 slots.

Any input would be greatly appreciated...

FTW
05-16-2014, 06:28 AM
Combo elves loses a bit of steam without Cradles and Deathrite is much worse without fetches and duals. It's still doable... OR... you could brew the following

Elf-Melira-Survival?


4 Llanowar Elves
3 Fyndhorn Elves
3 Quirion Ranger
2 Wirewood Symbiote
2 Fauna Shaman
2 Priest of Titania
3 Elvish Visionary
2 Basking Rootwalla
4 Vengevine
1 Big Game Hunter
1 Shriekmaw
1 Eternal Witness
1 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1 Viscera Seer
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Craterhoof Behemoth

4 Survival of the Fittest
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Skullclamp

1 Dryad Arbor
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Woodland Cemetery
4 Land Grant
5 Forest


I thought Skullclamp was restricted in Vintage. Anyway, there is never a reason to run 2 Skullclamp. The correct numbers are 0 (if banned or bad in the deck), 1 (if restricted) or 4 (if good in the deck). Good card is good.

Tempus
05-18-2014, 06:46 AM
Combo elves loses a bit of steam without Cradles and Deathrite is much worse without fetches and duals. It's still doable... OR... you could brew the following

Elf-Melira-Survival?


4 Llanowar Elves
3 Fyndhorn Elves
3 Quirion Ranger
2 Wirewood Symbiote
2 Fauna Shaman
2 Priest of Titania
3 Elvish Visionary
2 Basking Rootwalla
4 Vengevine
1 Big Game Hunter
1 Shriekmaw
1 Eternal Witness
1 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1 Viscera Seer
1 Murderous Redcap
1 Craterhoof Behemoth

4 Survival of the Fittest
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Skullclamp

1 Dryad Arbor
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Woodland Cemetery
4 Land Grant
5 Forest


I thought Skullclamp was restricted in Vintage. Anyway, there is never a reason to run 2 Skullclamp. The correct numbers are 0 (if banned or bad in the deck), 1 (if restricted) or 4 (if good in the deck). Good card is good.

Skullclamp is not restricted, the two Skullclamp were in addition to the 4 Glimpse of Nature. And 6 draw related cards should be enough...

I actually wanted to keep the concepts separated, but this list looks fun and powerful.