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Mikeeey15
06-10-2014, 11:06 AM
1 Dryad Arbor
4 Tropical Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Bayou
1 Underground Sea
1 Polluted Delta
1 Verdant Catacombs
4 Wasteland
4 Forest
3 Island

4 Deathrite Shaman
3 Ancestral Visions
2 Brainstorm

4 Coiling Oracle
2 Sylvan Library

3 Shardless Agent
3 Chasm Skulker
1 Edric, Spymaster of Trest
3 Dismember

2 Natural Order
4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Garruk Wildspeaker

3 Force of Will

1 Progenitus


Value, value and even some more value!

4 Deathrite, king of kings. one of the best creatures ever made
4 Coiling Oracle, as i said. Value, the deck will do as much as it can to gain alittle bit of value out of everything.
3 Shardless Agent, OH MY GOD! THEY PRINTED MORE CARDS WITH CASCADE!
3 Chasm Skulker, i dont know about anyone else. but this card seems insane right? Lorescale Coatl is awesome already. this just has some SWEET upsides!
1 Edric, Spymaster of Trest. i love this card. so so so much.
1 Progenitus, not sure if this is the better NO target. it has pro everything combined with the fast clock.

3 Ancestral Visions, Shardless BFF
2 Brainstorm, this feels bad. i never would've thought about playing this as anything less then a 4 of, when you really want your Shardless to be amazing tho. you have to slim down on the 1/2drops
2 Sylvan Library, decent with shardless. good to cascade into.
3 Dismember, low cost removal that i cannot cascade into. seems good to me!
2 Natural Order, back plan!
4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor, it's jace. that is all
1 Garruk Wildspeaker, this card is sweeeeet. amazing value. the -1 is amazing and the ultimate will kill out of nowhere
3 Force of Will, when a deck is built around Value. this card seems out of place. but playing a deck without any interruption is a mistake unless you'll kill your opp within the first 2 turns every game.

Very early in development. all suggestions are welcome!

thanks for your time!

Zupponn
06-10-2014, 08:20 PM
4 Jace seems excessive. I'd cut one or two for something else. Maybe go up to 4 Brainstorm? That way you can get the same basic effect that helps you find Jace while being castable much earlier than Jace ever is.

Megadeus
06-10-2014, 08:24 PM
Yeah I dont understand Not 4 Brainstorms.

Mystical_Jackass
06-11-2014, 01:59 PM
Hybrid deck, half NO half Shardless.

I don't really like it, 'cause its sort of trying to do both but not really great at either. As Shardless you don't really have the power Cascade--> goyf/Hymn/baleful stix plays, and you have to cut down to 3 visions and 2 brainstorms ensuring you're only going to get your "power plays" not even half as much. And as NO/Proj you have things like Dryad Arbod akwardly in list with no Green Sun's Zenith. Edric is pretty random, you can't cascade into him. Dismember should probably be abrupt decay, usually people only run that spell if it's off-colors like if you're mono red or so.

Just being honest, its like you have two different wincons working toward different goals, but unlike the old Dark Depths/Hexmage/Goyf, you don't really have the raw muscle like Goyf or Tombstalkers, etc. to back you up as an alt win, mainly a parade of 1/1, 2/2 weenies with no evasion.