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Mr. Froggy
07-10-2014, 03:28 PM
I've been playing this pile of trash for the past couple of days, and wanted help with it.

Also, yes it's a rehash of Zac Hill's Rock & Nail from years ago Extended.

Lands:

4x Verdant Catacombs
2x Marsh Flats
2x Cabal Coffers
3x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1x The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1x Bojuka Bog
2x Bayou
1x Scrubland
1x Savannah
2x Forest
2x Swamp
1x Plains

Creatures:
4x Sakura-Tribe Elder
2x Sundering Titan
2x Platinum Angel

Other Spells:
4x Swords to Plowshares
2x Duress
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
3x Crop Rotation
3x Hymn to Tourach
4x Living Wish
2x Pernicious Deed
4x Tooth and Nail

Artifacts:
4x Sensei's Diving Top

It's a pretty simple concept, control the hand all the while ramping up towards Tooth and Nail using the Urborg+Coffers uber combo to generate tons of mana.

The reasoning for the colorless creatures is that you'll be able to cast them if ever they are drawn so they are never stuck in hand.

Help a brother out?

Phoenix Ignition
07-10-2014, 04:02 PM
I think if you're going Tooth and Nail there's absolutely no reason not to have at least 1 Emrakul and 1 Gives-Emrakul-Haste creature in here. Sure, you might not be able to play them very easily, but Plat Angel and Sundering Titan are far from auto win cards, whereas Emrakul is Emrakul. Being colorless helps, but even just being stuck in your hand isn't a huge problem since I could see situations where you want to cast TnN without entwine just to get Emrakul in play.

Plus you have a much better option to beat Show and Tell decks game 1.

Mr. Froggy
07-10-2014, 04:59 PM
I think if you're going Tooth and Nail there's absolutely no reason not to have at least 1 Emrakul and 1 Gives-Emrakul-Haste creature in here. Sure, you might not be able to play them very easily, but Plat Angel and Sundering Titan are far from auto win cards, whereas Emrakul is Emrakul. Being colorless helps, but even just being stuck in your hand isn't a huge problem since I could see situations where you want to cast TnN without entwine just to get Emrakul in play.

Plus you have a much better option to beat Show and Tell decks game 1.

I had thought of Emrakul+FKZ, and maybe Iona+Painter?

Phoenix Ignition
07-10-2014, 05:52 PM
I think there's a better option than FKZ, I forget his name though. Think it's a red creature 4 drop.

Anyway, I like both of those options better than Platinum Angel at least. There's too much removal to really plan on PA not losing you the game, and as long as you're cheating 2 creatures into play regardless, you might as well grab the ones with the highest impact. Iona + Painter sounds pretty awesome to be honest.

Barook
07-10-2014, 06:10 PM
Emrakul + Xenagos, God of Revels?

30 points of hasty power + annihilator 6 every turn.

While we're at it, why not throw in the DD + Therspian Stage combo? You already run nonbasic search and Urborg makes DD less dead.

Mr. Froggy
07-10-2014, 07:07 PM
Emrakul + Xenagos, God of Revels?

30 points of hasty power + annihilator 6 every turn.

While we're at it, why not throw in the DD + Therspian Stage combo? You already run nonbasic search and Urborg makes DD less dead.

Dang! That's brutal!

EDIT: Also, forgot to post my current SB:
1x Cabal Coffers
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1x Surgical Extraction
3x Rest in Peace
1x Kataki, War's Wage
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Aven Mindcensor
2x Pernicious Deed
4x Obstinate Baloth

uncletiggy
07-12-2014, 12:30 AM
I think you are better off working towards a refined veraion of hooglands junk NO deck. Realistically youll be dead before you reach the eleven mana you need to cast an entwined tooth and nail playing around spell pierce. Crater hoof plus any two creatures is lethal on most board states and only requires six mana, four if you're feeling froggy.

Worldslayer
07-13-2014, 08:48 AM
Other end of the spectrum from NO, could be more of a BG 12post list.

Also vote on Emrakul plus Xenagos. If you're actually resolving a 9 mana spell, it should win you the game. Not get swords and lillyd immediately.

Mr. Froggy
07-13-2014, 12:32 PM
Other end of the spectrum from NO, could be more of a BG 12post list.

Also vote on Emrakul plus Xenagos. If you're actually resolving a 9 mana spell, it should win you the game. Not get swords and lillyd immediately.

I had thought of 12Post instead, I'll try it out.

Mr. Froggy
07-13-2014, 03:03 PM
3 Color Manabase is too hard, I'm gonna try straight GB.

H
07-13-2014, 04:04 PM
3 Color Manabase is too hard, I'm gonna try straight GB.

You could run Innocent Blood as your 1cc removal since Swords would be gone.

Mr. Froggy
07-13-2014, 09:14 PM
Alright, so the 12Post manabase works a lot better than Urborg+Coffers. Thanks to Glimmerpost, you get to gain a bunch of life to keep you in the race.