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autonom
08-04-2014, 10:40 AM
I've tried to create a deck that has few dead match-ups by using control and responding to most threats. The idea is survive in the beginning and win long term through card-advantage from Snapcaster Mage and Hymn to Tourach and through card quality from Vendilion Clique.

CREATURES (7)
4 Snapcaster Mage
3 Vendilion Clique

SORCERIES (11)
2 Ponder
3 Council’s Judgment
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Hymn to Tourach

INSTANTS (16)
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
3 Counterspell
1 Spell Snare
4 Swords to Plowshares

PLANESWALKERS (2)
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

ARTIFACTS (2)
2 Sensei’s Divining Top

LANDS (22)
1 Volrath’s Stronghold
1 Riptide Laboratory
1 Karakas
4 Underground Sea
4 Tundra
1 Scrubland
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Marsh Flats
1 Island

SIDEBOARD (15)
3 Surgical Extraction
3 Perish
3 Zealous Persecution
3 Phyrexian Revoker
3 Meddling Mage

Do you think this deck can be competitive?
Do you think that any changes will make it better without changing the deck drastically?

Mystical_Jackass
08-04-2014, 12:15 PM
Well... I mean, you run only 7 creatures. I can see a T1 Lackey, MOM or Vial/Cavern just wrecking you. This is probably a pretty solid anti-combo, but your entire plan hinges on StP and counters, I see D&T's and decks like Zoo that just keep dropping threat after threat rolling this, that's my 2 cents. Maybe run EE or ratchet bomb or something with Ruins?

Meekrab
08-05-2014, 10:25 PM
Well... I mean, you run only 7 creatures. I can see a T1 Lackey, MOM or Vial/Cavern just wrecking you. This is probably a pretty solid anti-combo, but your entire plan hinges on StP and counters, I see D&T's and decks like Zoo that just keep dropping threat after threat rolling this, that's my 2 cents. Maybe run EE or ratchet bomb or something with Ruins?
Zoo? Is this 2009? 0_o

My first thought is... why aren't you playing U/x/x Miracles?

trollking21
08-06-2014, 01:06 AM
I agree with poster above, the first thought when building a deck should be, is there already a deck that does this better? What is your deck trying to that other decks fall short in? Maximize snapcaster?
You gain hymn to tourach, and inquisition but lose terminus entreat and counterbalance that hardly seems like net gain.

FTW
08-07-2014, 05:19 PM
The Wizard/Creature recursion lands with 7 creatures are probably just too cute.

If you want to play Miracles but not dependent on miracling, you should run some other mass removal (Toxic Deluge, Engineered Explosives). What can you do that Miracles can't? You can be more spell-based, abusing Snapcaster with not only discard but Snappable mass-removal like Deluge. Or you can play an EE deck with Academy Ruins and Tolaria West.

Another thing you can do with a different variant of pure control is run Moat. Or Humility+Curse of Death's Hold/Night of Souls' Betrayal.

Or you can play Superfriends with more walkers.

Tea
08-08-2014, 08:41 AM
you need much more card advantage. Hymn is an excellent card for the aggro-control player to keep up on card advantage against control, but it's not what you want as a control player. Also don't fall into the trap of thinking that SCM is card-advantage, it's only 1,5 card-advantage.

My favorites are:
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Elspeth
Supreme Verdict
Humility
Moat
Vedalken Shackles
Disk
Crucible of Worlds
Pernicious Deed
Lilliana
Fact or Fiction
Terminus, Entreat the Angels, Counterbalance (= Miracles)

The bomb level should be between 10 (low) and 13 (high).

The next step is to implement an efficient win-con. I think this is one of major barriers to the viability of control. Some of the aforementioned cards (Jace, Shackles, Elspeth) are already win-cons, which is why I personally like them the most. If you decide on Humility, Crucible of Worlds you absolutely need Manlands and Elspeth.

nedleeds
08-08-2014, 11:28 AM
BB WW and UU ... really no business spells under 3 mana. Seems like the one thing you can't respond to is Wasteland.

MGB
08-08-2014, 11:30 AM
Wouldn't it just be better to play UW Miracles? Countertop ruins most strategies and the rest get ruined by Terminus.

autonom
08-08-2014, 11:47 AM
Thank you for all responses! I've switched to UWr Miracles. I agree that I lose discard spells but gain more from Terminus, Entreat and Counterbalance.