View Full Version : AZMagicPlayers.com 2014 Legacy Series - By the Numbers
Ziveeman
08-20-2014, 01:43 PM
So the past eight months my brother and I have been running the AZMagicPlayers.com 2014 Legacy Series. We required decklists and logged the metagame and posted Top 8 (or Top 16 decklists if it was 40+ players) on http://azmagicplayers.tumblr.com.
I created this infographic to display some of the data we've seen over the past eight months. There's always talk about Legacy regional metagames, so I think this is a pretty cool insight into one of the regional metagames!
http://www.azmagicplayers.com/azmagicplayerslegacyseriesinfographic.png
This was fantastic, thanks!
blackheartz
08-20-2014, 03:04 PM
Thanks for the stats!!!
Sweet! You guys have put a lot of really good work into your local tournament series - it's impressive!
Phelix
08-20-2014, 03:43 PM
As someone who will fap at data, i thank you greatly.
and its visualized, even more amazing.
Julian23
08-20-2014, 03:56 PM
From now on, we want all tournament data in the entire world, ever produced, analyzed by you.
Lemnear
08-20-2014, 04:04 PM
I really like such stuff!
LOLWut
08-20-2014, 04:56 PM
Yeah, the guy in Arizona can do it but SCG and WotC wearing the $4,000 suits can't. COME ON!
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Beautiful infographics. I'm rather impressed at the heavy representation of Burn and Death & Taxes.
iamajellydonut
08-20-2014, 05:33 PM
Beautiful infographics. I'm rather impressed at the heavy representation of Burn and Death & Taxes.
The beauty of local metas.
JBlaze
08-20-2014, 05:41 PM
Thank you very interesting data and very well put together.
Hey Jason, good work!
I'm curious how you mechanically put together the values. I have about 6-8 KW tournament data I want to condense for meaning, and it's a P.I.T.A. to parse.
Ziveeman
08-20-2014, 07:03 PM
Hey Jason, good work!
I'm curious how you mechanically put together the values. I have about 6-8 KW tournament data I want to condense for meaning, and it's a P.I.T.A. to parse.
Nothing special. I just logged an Excel sheet with the Player Name, Deck Name, Event, and if it Top 8'd or not. All the data is basically from there (except for the color representation, which is literally just noting what colors each deck has without concerns to weight). From there it's basically a bunch of pivot tables to get the data.
It was a lot easier when I did it month by month so it wasn't all one big session of typing out names and decks :P
JamieW89
08-20-2014, 07:32 PM
Good stuff.
Megadeus
08-20-2014, 09:11 PM
The beauty of local metas.
Agreed. If we did something like this, I'm sure our meta would look similar.
I'm scared of burn honestly. I don't like playing against it and I think it's becoming really good
Nuke is Good
08-21-2014, 02:36 AM
Agreed. If we did something like this, I'm sure our meta would look similar.
I'm scared of burn honestly. I don't like playing against it and I think it's becoming really good
Pyrostatic Pillar on a stick just pushed Burn to being something even scarier than it already is. I gotta put Jund on the backburner because of Burn is THAT common now.
twndomn
08-21-2014, 04:47 AM
The graph and stat compiled are most likely representative of the meta-game in AZ, does it translate well into the SCG circuit?
Also, which pro-tour Magic players actually live in AZ? do Nevada people count? Most on-camera players seem to come for the 2 coasts.
iamajellydonut
08-21-2014, 08:30 AM
does it translate well into the SCG circuit?
Also, which pro-tour Magic players actually live in AZ? do Nevada people count? Most on-camera players seem to come for the 2 coasts.
Does this even matter? The entire glory of these statistics is that it's local data instead of a degenerate Star City top 8.
Ziveeman
08-21-2014, 11:50 AM
The graph and stat compiled are most likely representative of the meta-game in AZ, does it translate well into the SCG circuit?
Also, which pro-tour Magic players actually live in AZ? do Nevada people count? Most on-camera players seem to come for the 2 coasts.
What do you mean translate? We've had some good representation from AZ at SCG Opens (3 SCG Open Champions & people with multiple SCG Top 8s), despite the fact the closest SCG Opens are minimum 5 hours away.
Paul Rietzl technically lives in AZ but I've never seen him at any events. Adam Prosak resided in AZ before moving to Ohio and then going to R&D, though I don't think he ever identified himself as a "pro".
lordofthepit
08-21-2014, 03:47 PM
Outstanding work!
lyracian
08-21-2014, 06:17 PM
Getting 168 different players is really good. You clearly have a Burn and Taxes meta :tongue:
A quick look at your breakdown here - http://www.azmagicplayers.com/articles/azmp-2014-legacy-series/azmagicplayers-com-2014-legacy-series-points-race/
it seems that about 50% (80-ish players) have only ever attended once; although 20 of those were in August which could make next months statistics interesting.
Ziveeman
08-21-2014, 06:42 PM
Getting 168 different players is really good. You clearly have a Burn and Taxes meta :tongue:
A quick look at your breakdown here - http://www.azmagicplayers.com/articles/azmp-2014-legacy-series/azmagicplayers-com-2014-legacy-series-points-race/
it seems that about 50% (80-ish players) have only ever attended once; although 20 of those were in August which could make next months statistics interesting.
Heh, happy you looked at the extra data!
There's a couple of factors in place that explain the rise in new players in August as well as the one-ofs. First of all, our marketing range at first was pretty small. We didn't want to necessarily advertise another store's events at other stores (we did find a workaround to that), so our initial reach was limited to the already existing Legacy base that we knew on Facebook. Our tournament series was mainly limited to the metro Phoenix area at first. We saw a huge jump in May because our event was in a different city (Tucson) as well as a side event to a PTQ, so a lot of people borrowed decks if they dropped from the PTQ.
After May, we really started to experience a growth in new players, because (hopefully) after five tournaments, word really started to spread and also, we had bonus prizing thrown in such as boxes of M15 and extra Legacy staples.
Lastly, both August events were held in places we had not held Legacy events before (Avondale which is way west Phoenix and Flagstaff, northern AZ), so many people there were participating for the first time ever.
We are definitely excited for the next month - hoping it's going to be big! :)
lordofthepit
08-28-2014, 06:19 AM
Hey Jason, good work!
I'm curious how you mechanically put together the values. I have about 6-8 KW tournament data I want to condense for meaning, and it's a P.I.T.A. to parse.
Hey Koby, I've written a bunch of scripts together to parse tournament data, and I'd be interested in having access to yours. Check this out if you're interested: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?28495-Comprehensive-Legacy-Metagame-Analysis-and-a-Request-for-Data
Ziveeman, also please let me know if you're interested in having me process your tournament data similarly.
Ziveeman
08-28-2014, 12:31 PM
I don't have these tournament's data on hand unfortunately (we run it through the store's login). I am not sure if I can get those, but I can try to get it for our Championships next week.
Bed Decks Palyer
08-28-2014, 01:37 PM
Good job!
I like the graphics and the small jokes, well done.
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