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Deckerator
08-29-2014, 08:55 AM
I have the idea to build a deck with

Prismatic Omen
Fist of Sun
Joiner Adept

and a lot of big creatures like Emrakul, Blightsteel Colossus, Griselbrand and expensive and good spells like time stretch etc.
These are the core cards i wanna play but i dont know how to build around.
i know this not the fastest deck but i need your help to build around and create a "first version"

Bahra
08-31-2014, 03:51 AM
Sounds like a clear case of breaking the first rule of brewing: Never create something that's a strictly worse version of something else.

How about you just pay 3 mana for your Emrakul? Instead of 2+3+5 mana (prismatic omen, fist of suns, cast with fist of suns)

Darkenslight
08-31-2014, 07:03 AM
Sounds like a clear case of breaking the first rule of brewing: Never create something that's a strictly worse version of something else.

How about you just pay 3 mana for your Emrakul? Instead of 2+3+5 mana (prismatic omen, fist of suns, cast with fist of suns)

Casting Emmy is far more amusing than Cheatyface[/card]-ing Emmy into play. Still, I'm not sure it's likely to work, But I can give it a go:

Lands:

4 [cards]Windswept Heath
4 Flooded Strand
6 Plains
6 Forest
4 Savannah

Creatures:

4 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
2 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Worldspine Wurm
1 Blightsteel Colossus

Enchanting:

4 Prismatic Omen
4 Chromatic Lantern
4 Enlightened Tutor
4 Fist of Suns
2 Ghostly Prison
2 Oblivion Ring
1 Chrome Mox
1 Rest in Peace
1 Helm of Obedience
1 Solitary Confinement
1 Sterling Grove
1 Defense of the Heart
1 Vedalken Orrery

With lots of tweaks and testing.

trollking21
08-31-2014, 01:40 PM
The concept of your deck is flawed in legacy, you need a 3 card combo (fist of suns a way to make 5 colors and a fattie) and it also costs 5 mana to actually 'cheat' your fatties into play. Every form of interaction hurts you. Abrupt decay ruins your fist of suns, thought seize leaves you doing nothing with you're 10+ drops counter spells can do the same thing. Unfortunately I don't think your good hands could beat an average delver, shardless, or elves hands. Unfortunately I think even without the presence of show and tell this deck just doesn't have the speed to do anything in legacy.

Not to say this would make the deck viable but I think the first logical step is to add acceleration, their removal is already live, whether it's abrupt decay or swords, so you don't open yourself to anything new. I think noble Heirach is the best choice by the slightest margin over birds of paradise as you will never naturally make all 5 colors. This can make your deck a turn faster.
The one of chrome mox as part of the enlightened tutor package is bad. You never want to lose a card tutoring and then lose a card with chrome mox. You either need to play enough to see it in you're opener or not at all.

Also why blightsteel? It doesn't stack with other types of damage, and while it can one shot a combo opponent you have no can trips to find it when it's good or ditch it when it's bad. I think yiu're better off with creatures that do things when cast or enter the battlefield. A different option would be progenitus he mostly wins when he resolves

Darkenslight
08-31-2014, 02:05 PM
The concept of your deck is flawed in legacy, you need a 3 card combo (fist of suns a way to make 5 colors and a fattie) and it also costs 5 mana to actually 'cheat' your fatties into play. Every form of interaction hurts you. Abrupt decay ruins your fist of suns, thought seize leaves you doing nothing with you're 10+ drops counter spells can do the same thing. Unfortunately I don't think your good hands could beat an average delver, shardless, or elves hands. Unfortunately I think even without the presence of show and tell this deck just doesn't have the speed to do anything in legacy.

Not to say this would make the deck viable but I think the first logical step is to add acceleration, their removal is already live, whether it's abrupt decay or swords, so you don't open yourself to anything new. I think noble Heirach is the best choice by the slightest margin over birds of paradise as you will never naturally make all 5 colors. This can make your deck a turn faster.
The one of chrome mox as part of the enlightened tutor package is bad. You never want to lose a card tutoring and then lose a card with chrome mox. You either need to play enough to see it in you're opener or not at all.

Also why blightsteel? It doesn't stack with other types of damage, and while it can one shot a combo opponent you have no can trips to find it when it's good or ditch it when it's bad. I think yiu're better off with creatures that do things when cast or enter the battlefield. A different option would be progenitus he mostly wins when he resolves

Well, this was a pulled-out-of-my-ass build. The Mox is an option, but I'm more than happy to change that for some cheap acceleration. You're primarily GW as Green provides the color stuff and White provides the tutoring. Blightsteel is almost an instant win against certain decks, as well as being tutorable by E. Tutor. I was also remotely considering Ajani, Mentor of Heroes as free search, but that would likely be too slow.

FTW
09-03-2014, 11:36 AM
There's nothing wrong with a Prismatic Omen combo deck in theory, but you are seriously misspelling Scapeshift

The major problem with your deck concept is that you think paying 5 mana counts as "cheating" something out in Legacy. It doesn't. 5 mana is already a "fatty", already overcosted. This deck wouldn't even be viable if you started every game with Prismatic Omen and Fist of the Suns ALREADY IN PLAY on turn 0, since you'd still have to protect those permanents and your hand and ramp to 5 mana before doing anything while most decks would just disrupt or kill you first. And even after you hit 5 mana, you haven't won the game yet. All you did was put a big creature in play. If it's not Emrakul with the extra turn, you could still lose.

I mean if you're paying 5 mana per fatty, you might as well just play Elvish Piper or Dream Halls instead of assembling a 2 card combo. Those are just 1 card and actually cost you WAY less mana in the long run. But they're still not Legacy viable.

Mystical_Jackass
09-03-2014, 05:34 PM
I have the idea to build a deck with

Prismatic Omen
Fist of Sun
Joiner Adept

and a lot of big creatures like Emrakul, Blightsteel Colossus, Griselbrand and expensive and good spells like time stretch etc.
These are the core cards i wanna play but i dont know how to build around.
i know this not the fastest deck but i need your help to build around and create a "first version"

You realize you could simply play Quicksilver Amulet instead of that ridiculous 3-card synergy. And even that isn't viable in Legacy.