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Mon,Goblin Chief
10-31-2014, 10:20 PM
My observations concerning the results of Eternal Weekend and the latest SCG Open (sorry for the delay this week, but for some reason there weren't decklists available for everything before Monday ;) )

http://www.starcitygames.com/article/29637_Understanding-Legacy-Post-Khans.html

Griselpuff
10-31-2014, 10:25 PM
As usual, the best legacy content all week . <3

Zombie
11-01-2014, 06:05 AM
I need a script that renames things so I can tell wtf they actually are ;__;

HammerAndSickled
11-01-2014, 10:28 AM
Yeah, this Temur shit needs to stop

BBG|Scott-Spain
11-01-2014, 11:06 AM
Yeah, this Temur shit needs to stop

Not a fan of the nomenclature either (assuming that's what you're talking about), but that's just going to continue because it's really Wizards pushing that narrative.

Anyway, good stuff. I can't wait until you talk about the implications of Commander 2014 cards.

HammerAndSickled
11-01-2014, 11:28 AM
It's not Wizards, it's SCG. Given that I haven't met a single human being who prefers the new names to the color pairs abbreviated, I think we should just abolish Jund, Esper, and friends into the realm of player slang and let "official" sources name decks after their colors and strategy. In the same way we in legacy have names like Canadian Thresh and Tin Fins, but the general populace should be able to read those deck lists as RUG Delver and Reanimator Storm.

Finn
11-01-2014, 08:16 PM
I read a good portion of Carsten's article and realized that I can't understand wtf he is talking about. I came here to complain and realized I am nowhere near alone. SCG is pissing me off with their editing policy. And google translate isn't helping at all. I am going to return and try to make heads and tails of Carsten's foreign content.

Richard Cheese
11-01-2014, 11:56 PM
I need a script that renames things so I can tell wtf they actually are ;__;

There are enough nerds playing this game, there will be a chrome extension available before you know it.

Also TinFins is clearly an acceptable name, and I do not have double standards. Except when I do.

FieryBalrog
11-02-2014, 10:00 AM
Can anyone seriously complain about deck diversity when there's at least six different flavors of Delver to choose from?

You have Snowy White, with the big beats brought by Stoneforge Mystic; Lightning Red, with super fast aggro rush of Pyromancer in pure UR; Swamp Black, with all the sneakiness of "Sultai"; the list goes on.

sjmcc13
11-02-2014, 12:29 PM
Can anyone seriously complain about deck diversity when there's at least six different flavors of Delver to choose from?

Diversity comes in multiple forms, and while different deck lists is one of those forms, it is also the weakest one.

What counts is diversity in play styles/strategies, if there are 6 decks that all follow the same basic strategy with slight variance in exactly how they go about it, that is diversity of decks, but not diversity of strategy. a top 8 with 6 flavours of delver is not very diverse, and top 8 with Elves, D&T, Storm, Sneak & Show, Reanimator, and Delver is diverse.

dune2k
11-02-2014, 02:38 PM
There are enough nerds playing this game, there will be a chrome extension available before you know it.

There you go: http://tinyurl.com/q5n98mt
It's a simple Greasemonkey/Tampermonkey script that replaces the clan names with "ClanName (Colors)". You can edit the source code of the script to have it just show the colors, just remove ClanName ( ). The "" have to stay.
If you encounter bugs/... let me know.

/Edit: It seems to break Java Script, will look into that next week.

bruizar
11-02-2014, 03:21 PM
It's still a stupid naming convention.

Ellomdian
11-03-2014, 12:47 PM
Can anyone seriously complain about deck diversity when...

Yes. You must be new to Legacy, we complain about EVERYTHING. We complain about banning Brainstorm, we complain about NOT banning it, we complain when Delver does well, we complain when Europeans say Delver shouldn't do well.

As for the Article, I like that CK seems to be on the 'everyone is overreacting' side of the page. Oakland: 2 Delver decks in a T8 featuring Goblins (WTF!LOLZ?) Lands, ANT, and which was won by Dredge. There were 2 more Dredge lists and a TinFins in the T16. In recent weeks we've seen Slivers, Punishing Maverick and Tezz do well.

If you want to play Delver, great! Have fun! Draw some cards with Cruise! The deck is good enough to compete. However, don't be surprised if you get absolutely run over by something that you cannot interact with. Forked Bolts are great at killing your opponents faces, but they are very, very bad at stopping a Maze of Ith or an Emrakul or Tendrils, and killing your own creatures to beat Bridges is a bad way to actually kill your opponent :p

bruizar
11-03-2014, 04:51 PM
Lack of Mongoose and Tarmogoyf puts Sudden Shock and Volcanic Fallout on the rise