[Article] November 2014 Legacy Metagame Analysis

[Griselpuff]

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/november-2014-legacy-metagame-analysis/

[Star|Scream]

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/november-2014-legacy-metagame-analysis/

Ooooh what's the super secret tech for RUG?

[AngryTroll]

I was also interested in the super secret tech for RUG.

Thanks for the analysis! For me, the three most interesting points were that the format broke down almost into thirds combo, control, and aggro decks, that the Top 8 decks were similarly roughly evenly split between the three archetypes, and that the Top 8 performing decks made up 2/3 of the total winning decks.

All sorts of interesting information. Great work!

[Star|Scream]

Is it Hidden Gibbons?

It's Hidden Gibbons isn't it?

[TsumiBand]

Is it Hidden Gibbons?

It's Hidden Gibbons isn't it?

Sigged and I have no idea why. Except that Hidden Gibbons is a beeeeeeeettttiiiiiiing

[Lord Seth]

From the article:
Jeskai Ascendancy is also very much on the chopping block. The deck is beatable, but a nightmare to sit across from as it takes ages to win. It should be banned for the same reason Second Sunrise got the axe.He's aware that the reason Second Sunrise got banned wasn't because it was slow, but because it was slow and was frequently played, which (so far) does not apply to Jeskai Ascendancy? People act like Eggs got banned right away, but it actually wasn't banned for a while because the deck wasn't being played. When it did start getting played in large numbers (due to metagame shifts from the Seething Song and Bloodbraid Elf bannings), that was when it got banned for its slowness.

I could understand this ban mania when people thought it was going to be a huge player, but the deck just hasn't lived up to its hype so far. Maybe people just aren't playing it enough, but advocating a ban on a deck that's basically been doing nothing since it got invented seems dubious. At least the advocation for a Treasure Cruise ban is based on decks playing it actually doing well.

[Richard Cheese]

Is it Hidden Gibbons?

It's Hidden Gibbons isn't it?

Shaddup Sssssssssssstar Ssssssssscream!

Although it is worth noting that Hidden Gibbons has maybe the stupidest flavor text of all time.

[Borealis]

I was also really curious about the super secret tech, and Bob won't tell me! Hidden Gibbons probably does make the most sense, as it has precedent here. Still, I'm curious if it's something else.... Hmmmm. Guess I'll need to get some Gibbons anyway, just in case.

[sjmcc13]

I was also really curious about the super secret tech, and Bob won't tell me! Hidden Gibbons probably does make the most sense, as it has precedent here. Still, I'm curious if it's something else.... Hmmmm. Guess I'll need to get some Gibbons anyway, just in case.My guess is Volcanic Fallout as it wipes their board while Mongoose and goyf can survive, but I would love for hidden Gibbons and/or Hidden Herd to be playable options.

[Richard Cheese]

My guess is Volcanic Fallout as it wipes their board while Mongoose and goyf can survive, but I would love for hidden Gibbons and/or Hidden Herd to be playable options.

Both cards have been amazing against UR in testing, although Gibbons can be pretty dead in other matchups. Fallout is a decent guess, although it would be odd to run Fallout after spending a paragraph telling people to drop Goose for Pyromancer (unless Bob is just trying to get even more people to play into his devious plans).

[Griselpuff]

Funny, I actually meant for the editor to put the card tag in there, but he missed it. Now I'm going to keep it a secret. :laugh:

[TheKingslayer]

Funny, I actually meant for the editor to put the card tag in there, but he missed it. Now I'm going to keep it a secret. :laugh:
Noooo! we wanna knoww :(

[Higgs]

On the topic of current metagame, is Burn a viable strategy in Legacy? Well... :
http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=15116

24 copies of Lightning Bolt vs 24 copies of Brainstorm in Top8. Ban Lightning Bolt I guess lol.

[Sloshthedark]

On the topic of current metagame, is Burn a viable strategy in Legacy? Well... :
http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=15116

24 copies of Lightning Bolt vs 24 copies of Brainstorm in Top8. Ban Lightning Bolt I guess lol.
lol that's a metagame, poor BUG guy bringing knife to a gunfight

[Richard Cheese]

Last GPT I went to was completely dominated by burn and UR.

[FoolofaTook]

Last GPT I went to was completely dominated by burn and UR.

That's a local meta though. In my local meta people do play Burn and they do play UR Delver but neither of those lists dominates. You just need to be aware that they are out there. Yes, they'll win sometimes. But neither of the archetypes is dominant despite the UR Delver numbers we're seeing right now.

The problem is that if you have a good matchup against Burn and UR Delver odds are pretty good you're prey for BUG Control and BUG Delver. The logical answer is to play some form of Delver yourself since the Delver lists tend to have one bad matchup among the tier lists and decent to good matchups against everybody else. Oh, and Delver just creates stupid wins every now and then when you invested almost nothing in it but managed to ride it through to the end.

[ironclad8690]

All these burn decks, maybe it's finally time to invest in Leylines (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?18587-IDEA-Opalesence&highlight=leylines)

[rufus]

All these burn decks, maybe it's finally time to invest in Leylines (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?18587-IDEA-Opalesence&highlight=leylines)

For extra troll factor, you could play with Puca's Mischief as a backup for Opalescence.

Are you allowed to scout your opponents and mull into Leyline of Sanctity game 1 vs burn?

[Star|Scream]

Did bob ever tell anyone the super secret tech?