Nutox
03-04-2015, 10:10 AM
I played a badass Red-White deck way back in the day when Balance, Strip Mine, Land Tax, Sol Ring and Mana Vault were legal, and Moat was under $100. Now I want to play it again. Legally.
I have spent a LOT of time looking and thinking about an almost-legacy-playable Boros Deck. I have seen the flat-top of the rock.... and after passing Boros Landfall on the way up, I see this: It is Bad. Very Bad.
However.... $200 on four magic cards that are lands with no abilities is about as deep as I'm getting into a mana base these days. And I want to play something either way more stompy or way fuller of cool cards than Boros Landfall, and stay with my pet-deck colors. I want to swing the jank around like a dead cat. I want to cast Squee, for value. I want to play a combo-lock deck with no Blue, and all Red and White. I loved playing Maverick, but there's no ass-stomping synergy (and Sylvan Library and GSZ) to be had like that in Boros.
So with no hand disruption, no countermagic, no freaky fast cheaty-face clocks, and maybe, just maybe, no Stoneforge Mystic... I want to jam Solitary Confinement. And the best way to protect it in Boros is probably just to make sure my opponent can't cast any spells after drawing 50+ cards over 50+ turns. There's not much room for stuff outside of support cards and combo enablers. A "taxing" package is not going to survive into the late-late-late-late game with no clock to back it up. Does Stax have enough open slots, and enough synergy with a game plan with such inherent weaknesses? Land Destruction, it is. You'd figure Red and White would be good with THAT concept. Scepter-Chant is probably relative, but done to death. Let's get fresh. In the spirit of Maverick, for the sake of a level of consistency necessary for a good deck, I like to have every card in the 60 have as much board/game state impact individually as can be had. Dead draws without Brainstorm is just no fun. Greater Auramancy isn't winning any games by itself. Squee can kill you. Scepter can't.
So, two questions:
1) What's the most badass Boros land-destruction/mana-control deck possible? I need to see how hardcore Boros can get with this while winning. See if I can adapt it.
2) Any great ideas for a Boros Stompy/Midrange? Something that could hold a tier-3 candle in the Top-25 DTB meta over the last five years no worse than most decks that have serious problems with certain decks?
I have come up with some really sweet, synergistic deck ideas that would be fun and play out nice in the goldfish bowl. It's when thinking about playing against another deck do these ideas become weak. I'll let y'all browbeat me for my lunatic ravings a bit before I write some of them out here.
Incidentally, it occurs to me one of the major factors holding Boros Legacy brews back might be the idea that Playing Red = Playing Lightning Bolt. Playing StP/PtE and 'Bolt together sure seems like the best of all worlds. But I think the kinds of decks Boros would compete with just wouldn't have room for Lightning Bolt. Crazy talk!
(Spolier Alert: Junk Diver.)
EDIT: I know draw-decking people is not a way to win timed games. That's why I picked the Casual forum!
I have spent a LOT of time looking and thinking about an almost-legacy-playable Boros Deck. I have seen the flat-top of the rock.... and after passing Boros Landfall on the way up, I see this: It is Bad. Very Bad.
However.... $200 on four magic cards that are lands with no abilities is about as deep as I'm getting into a mana base these days. And I want to play something either way more stompy or way fuller of cool cards than Boros Landfall, and stay with my pet-deck colors. I want to swing the jank around like a dead cat. I want to cast Squee, for value. I want to play a combo-lock deck with no Blue, and all Red and White. I loved playing Maverick, but there's no ass-stomping synergy (and Sylvan Library and GSZ) to be had like that in Boros.
So with no hand disruption, no countermagic, no freaky fast cheaty-face clocks, and maybe, just maybe, no Stoneforge Mystic... I want to jam Solitary Confinement. And the best way to protect it in Boros is probably just to make sure my opponent can't cast any spells after drawing 50+ cards over 50+ turns. There's not much room for stuff outside of support cards and combo enablers. A "taxing" package is not going to survive into the late-late-late-late game with no clock to back it up. Does Stax have enough open slots, and enough synergy with a game plan with such inherent weaknesses? Land Destruction, it is. You'd figure Red and White would be good with THAT concept. Scepter-Chant is probably relative, but done to death. Let's get fresh. In the spirit of Maverick, for the sake of a level of consistency necessary for a good deck, I like to have every card in the 60 have as much board/game state impact individually as can be had. Dead draws without Brainstorm is just no fun. Greater Auramancy isn't winning any games by itself. Squee can kill you. Scepter can't.
So, two questions:
1) What's the most badass Boros land-destruction/mana-control deck possible? I need to see how hardcore Boros can get with this while winning. See if I can adapt it.
2) Any great ideas for a Boros Stompy/Midrange? Something that could hold a tier-3 candle in the Top-25 DTB meta over the last five years no worse than most decks that have serious problems with certain decks?
I have come up with some really sweet, synergistic deck ideas that would be fun and play out nice in the goldfish bowl. It's when thinking about playing against another deck do these ideas become weak. I'll let y'all browbeat me for my lunatic ravings a bit before I write some of them out here.
Incidentally, it occurs to me one of the major factors holding Boros Legacy brews back might be the idea that Playing Red = Playing Lightning Bolt. Playing StP/PtE and 'Bolt together sure seems like the best of all worlds. But I think the kinds of decks Boros would compete with just wouldn't have room for Lightning Bolt. Crazy talk!
(Spolier Alert: Junk Diver.)
EDIT: I know draw-decking people is not a way to win timed games. That's why I picked the Casual forum!