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Sandro95
06-26-2015, 01:21 AM
New article is up! Be sure to tell me what you think and I'll be back next week with my Scandinavian Open tournament report.

http://brainstormbrewery.com/five-cards-you-should-be-playing-in-legacy-right-now/

Jin Gitaxias
06-26-2015, 02:13 AM
I enjoyed the cards and your reasoning for them even if they were not at all the cards I expected.
But then I saw that you called a deck "Abzan loam" and I closed my tab.

nevilshute
06-26-2015, 02:59 AM
I enjoyed the cards and your reasoning for them even if they were not at all the cards I expected.
But then I saw that you called a deck "Abzan loam" and I closed my tab.

I enjoyed the article although I feel you could have gone deeper on each of the cards. I'm guessing there might be an issue with how many words you are allowed to write, but if that is not the case I'd have prefered a more thourough analysis of each card.

Regarding "Abzan" etc. I'm starting to come around. I still prefer to say BUG and RUG because they are both words and abreviations and just come more intuitively to me but it is a bit funny how many "purists" that are getting all bent out of shape over WotC inventing names for three-color combinations but they choose to ignore that we've all been happily been saying "Esper" and "Jund" etc for years which is the exact same thing.

twndomn
06-26-2015, 03:05 AM
Slaughter games and Krosan Grip are a bit... interesting.

Funny enough, in your Relic of Progenitus paragraph, you did not mention its interaction with Deathrite Shaman. If DRS tries to target a card from your grave, in which you are the owner of Relic, you can actually screw DRS's activation by removing the graveyard card DRS targets.

Lemnear
06-26-2015, 03:37 AM
Grip has done nothing to OmniTell so far despite popping up in Elves and Storm sideboards at times, because you not inly need to keep three mana open, but even if you destroy Omniscience, there is DTT and a million cantrips to find the next while you were buisy to not do anything meaningful, because you always kept the mana open. The idea isn't thought through imo and goes further to cards like Relic or Slaughter Games which all aim at OmniTell, but are more or less worthless against the remaining metagame and also ignoring all potential tempo issues of running 4cc solutions to 3cc threats.

If I look at the metagame of Miracles, Blade variants and OmniTell, I would and have recommended several MB Reclamation Sages for decks like Elves, Jund, Maverick, etc. to deal with all the annoying permanents while creating cardadvantage and delaying OmniTell as S&Ting Omniscience + Rec Sage into play demands you to have an instant spped win in hand as well. Just food for thought

Echelon
06-26-2015, 04:06 AM
Even though I enjoyed the article, I doubt its relevance. As Lemnear stated, not taking the opportunity cost of the cards mentioned into account is a big misnomer.

Ingo
06-26-2015, 04:11 AM
Thanks for the read.
The sidecard I really enjoy playing now (and would fit your list as well) in this overly blue meta is Choke. It's like REB/BEB, but with a bigger impact than a 1 for 1. Only one condition though, and that's not playing islands for yourselves, for example in a greensplashed D&T.

Ace/Homebrew
06-26-2015, 08:19 AM
Even though I enjoyed the article, I doubt its relevance. As Lemnear stated, not taking the opportunity cost of the cards mentioned into account is a big misnomer.
Oddly enough, your use of 'misnomer' is itself a misnomer...


mis·no·mer

a wrong or inaccurate name or designation.
"“king crab” is a misnomer—these creatures are not crustaceans at all"


synonyms: inaccurate name/label/designation, wrong name/label/designation, inappropriate name/label/designation
"scientists say “killer whale” is a misnomer for what is one of the gentlest marine creatures known to man"


a wrong or inaccurate use of a name or term.
"to call this “neighborhood policing” would be a misnomer"

REB/Pyroblast was noticeably missing. I assume those still counter Show and Tell. :tongue:
I did like the format of the article though. The title was clear, the card photos were relevant, and I could easily read or skip over sections.

glowparty
06-26-2015, 08:54 AM
I enjoyed the article although I feel you could have gone deeper on each of the cards. I'm guessing there might be an issue with how many words you are allowed to write, but if that is not the case I'd have prefered a more thourough analysis of each card.

Regarding "Abzan" etc. I'm starting to come around. I still prefer to say BUG and RUG because they are both words and abreviations and just come more intuitively to me but it is a bit funny how many "purists" that are getting all bent out of shape over WotC inventing names for three-color combinations but they choose to ignore that we've all been happily been saying "Esper" and "Jund" etc for years which is the exact same thing.

probably has nothing to do with the fact that new names have been invented and everything to do with scg's and/or wotc shoving the names *the fuck* down everyone's throat.

sjmcc13
06-26-2015, 09:44 AM
I question the validity of using a 4 mana sorcery to negate a 3 mana sorcery played by a deck using Sol Lands.
Yes, if you cast slaughter games it can pretty much kill quite a few decks (ANT, Miracles, S&T, etc) but it is too slow a to play against most of those decks.
The only deck I can see it actually being useful against is Miracles to remove Terminus and Entreat (before they make a bunch of angels).

Ingo
06-26-2015, 10:33 AM
I question the validity of using a 4 mana sorcery to negate a 3 mana sorcery played by a deck using Sol Lands.
Yes, if you cast slaughter games it can pretty much kill quite a few decks (ANT, Miracles, S&T, etc) but it is too slow a to play against most of those decks.
The only deck I can see it actually being useful against is Miracles to remove Terminus and Entreat (before they make a bunch of angels).

I guess it works for a list like Niklas Kronberger's 4C-loamlist because he has Chalice of the Void and Thoughtseize to slow things down. He was paired several games against combo at Prague Eternal, including OmniTell and multiple Storm.

Tokugawa
06-26-2015, 10:06 PM
I guess it works for a list like Niklas Kronberger's 4C-loamlist because he has Chalice of the Void and Thoughtseize to slow things down. He was paired several games against combo at Prague Eternal, including OmniTell and multiple Storm.

Yep. Loam has BOTH acceleration(MoxD) and delayer(CotV), so it has better chance to reach 4 mana before opponent going off.

Slaughter games won't be playable if just simply jammed into a deck with Black and Red.

iamajellydonut
06-26-2015, 11:33 PM
Regarding "Abzan" etc. I'm starting to come around.

But... the deck in question isn't even Abzan?