Double sleeving question

[the_smoking_man]

I've recently finished foiling my legacy deck and began to foil my modern deck and want to double sleeve. What are the best outer sleeves for the job?

[Julian23]

Everyone here uses KMC Matt Black and they are pretty good. Heard bad stories about Dragon Shields not fitting but as I was told, the most recent versions work quite well with them, too.

[KaiSchafroth]

Feel like this thread is just going to start the KMC v Dragon Shiled debate so....cue thread link (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?25412-Sleeves-Dragon-Shield-vs-KMC).

EDIT: with what Julian noted above I've been using KMC myself ever since I ran into a few Dragon Shield that were cut a bit off/short. Haven't used DS recently to confirm if they've fixed that sort of issue though

[MGB]

KMC Perfect Size sleeves inside KMC Hyper Matte = the best.

[Phoenix Ignition]

I prefer Dragon Shields, never had a problem with them and they seem to split less on me than Ultra Pro and KMC. Could definitely be subjective and due to how people shuffle, I dunno.

On a side note I hate ultra pro's little holographic circle label on the front, it tends to leave a circle imprint on the back of the sleeve its next to, marking them somewhat. It's generally the same mark on all sleeves, but it's bad if you keep your sideboard separated or something.

[Bryant Cook]

I use ultra pro perfects and ultra pro sleeves. Powder blue. Love 'em.

[barcode]

KMC Perfect Fit inner sleeves, Dragon Shield outer sleeves. Accept no substitutes.

[the_smoking_man]

Thanks for the advice I'll try kmc matts with kmc inners. I would use ultra pro bc their cheaper but I've heard the ultra pro perfect fits warp the cards. Is this true?

[guillemnicolau]

I used to prefer KMC sleeves, but after trying DragonShield Matte Black, I decided to sleeve all the cards that I usually play (~400) with those, so that I never have to resleeve again. Those are amazing, with the typical back from ultrapro that doesn't get scratches, and the endurance of DS. As for the DS-InnerSleeves problem, I never had it.

[Quasim0ff]

Thanks for the advice I'll try kmc matts with kmc inners. I would use ultra pro bc their cheaper but I've heard the ultra pro perfect fits warp the cards. Is this true?

Yeah, I think this happens to foils especially :/

At least, I know of 3 people that experienced this.

[Darkenslight]

The Ultimate Guard sleeves are quite good for this - I'm using the metallic ones with KMC Perfect sleeves, and it's a dream to shuffle and play with.

[angelvaleroso]

Ultra Pro Pro Fits with KMC Matte Blacks.... until recently. Switched to Matte Black Dragon Shields. They're so easy to shuffle and are pretty durable (I don't shuffle like a madman lol).


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[sjmcc13]

I use KMC perfect Fits inside KMC Hyper-Mattes (all colors).

I also have a few packs of their Strong Hard line (I think this was discontinued) which I will use on occasion, though mostly for EDH. They are in between normal sleeves and top loaders. Offering a little bit more protection from bends and wear, but are allot easier to shuffle then a deck in top loaders. Did not take me to long to get use to shuffling them.