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UseLess
03-06-2016, 09:05 AM
The week before the legacy GP in Columbus (10-12 June) I will be travelling to Canada for work (coming from Denmark). I'm considering booking a flight and joining the GP that weekend, but I have no experience with such trips whatsoever. I'm interested in hearing other peoples opinions and experiences about similar travels (e.g. overseas GPs). Is it considered worth the money? It will be a rather expensive trip for playing 'just' a weekend of magic. I have no illusions of really winning anything significant so it's not like I aim to come out with a net benefit on my bank account. Another thing is that I will be travelling alone. Having noone to relax with in-between rounds, having a chat etc. might be really boring over a full day. I always enjoy going to larger magic events like GPs with a couple of friends near Amsterdam but now that isn't really an option. Are there any other players here from the source planning on going? I'd like to do some playtesting etc. before the main event, so I'd be great to meet up with some people on the Friday. Have other members here just been going to an event by themselves? How was that experience? Any comments/suggestions/whatnot is welcome! It might be a bit in advance, but I need to book the tickets for work asap and I'd like to get the trip in Columbus included if I do :).

cab0747
03-06-2016, 10:59 AM
I am sure that many players here will be attending GP Columbus.

It is also right when EMA is released so you can get in on a lot of drafts (which will be at MSRP still).

I don;t know your money situation, but I am not going to miss it :)

JPA
03-06-2016, 06:34 PM
I will be travelling alone.

I've traveled overseas to both US GPs (New Jersey and Seattle (Tacoma)) in the past two years. New Jersey was especially awesome, as it qualified me for PT Washington D.C., which led to another US trip that included SCG Indianapolis, followed by the PT.

Even though I traveled alone, the whole experience was simply awesome. I would recommend it to anyone who can afford it, and I'm very sad that I will miss this year's US Legacy GP (but I'd rather drive to Prague with the Berlin Legacy crew).

MGB
03-06-2016, 06:43 PM
Travelling to a GP is one of those things that everyone has to do at least once in their life, I think.

UseLess
03-07-2016, 02:45 AM
Thanks for the replies! You guys pretty much convinced me, just need to figure out the schedules. I have been to the legacy GP in Amsterdam and some other GPs and large events, so it's not that I haven't experienced it at all, just not as part of a trip somewhere.

thecrav
03-07-2016, 05:06 PM
One thing that's worth noting: This event is being run by Professional Events Services (also known as PES)

They've got kind of a bad reputation and it's gotten worse for their last two events.

At GP Detroit last weekend:
Refusing a refund escalates to battery on a player: https://redd.it/494o1o
An open letter full of general complaints: https://redd.it/49e2es

At GP Pittsburgh:
Side events firing extremely late, some not at all, including events that they took pre-reg for: https://redd.it/3tqfws
General complaints: https://redd.it/3ty42f
More complaints in that weekend's premiere event thread: https://redd.it/3tjlj2

All of these links also contain additional complaints in the comments.

It's also pretty weak, IMO, that This is the current official website for an event taking place just over 3 months from now (http://www.professional-events.com/2016/GPColumbus)

There's a fair number of players on Twitter who have decided to skip the GP in favor of either Eternal Weekend or Eternal Extravaganza.

iamajellydonut
03-07-2016, 05:30 PM
It's also pretty weak, IMO, that This is the current official website for an event taking place just over 3 months from now (http://www.professional-events.com/2016/GPColumbus)

I was about to give you crap for giving them crap over the appearance of a website, but holy shit that's weak.

thecrav
03-07-2016, 06:09 PM
I was about to give you crap for giving them crap over the appearance of a website, but holy shit that's weak.

If you want to see something weaker, go try to find that website yourself.

MGB
03-07-2016, 08:23 PM
At what point will we be able to register for this GP, you think?

iamajellydonut
03-07-2016, 08:38 PM
At what point will we be able to register for this GP, you think?

Judging by the information at hand, it's looking like June 10th with a 63% rate of success.

jrsthethird
03-07-2016, 11:53 PM
I was about to give you crap for giving them crap over the appearance of a website, but holy shit that's weak.

Did they use angelfire free or premium?

twndomn
03-08-2016, 02:33 AM
This open letter regarding PES as the Tournament Organizer has explained it all.

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/49e2es/an_open_letter_to_professional_event_services

Polishguy00
03-08-2016, 08:02 AM
There's a fair number of players on Twitter who have decided to skip the GP in favor of either Eternal Weekend or Eternal Extravaganza.

I am having trouble finding the info for 2016 Eternal Weekend. Do you have a link or know of dates? We are considering the same decision of Columbus/EE.

Bryant Cook
03-08-2016, 08:19 AM
I'm doing Columbus and EE4, so should everyone else. Support your format.

Stevestamopz
03-08-2016, 08:36 AM
I'm doing Columbus and EE4, so should everyone else. Support your format.

This basically ^

You Americans and Euros (so basically this entire forum) have no idea how good you have it. 70 something players from all around Australia flew down to Melbourne just to play in two Legacy side events at the modern GP we had on last weekend. 5 rounds, no cut to top 8. Prizes were essentially booster packs/boxes and GP T-shirts.

To have access to events like these would be a dream come true for pretty much all of us.

MGB
03-08-2016, 08:53 AM
I'm doing Columbus and EE4, so should everyone else. Support your format.

What this man said.

There are too few of these to skip any!@

jrsthethird
03-08-2016, 10:25 AM
i'm doing columbus and ee4, so should everyone else. Support your format.

yes.

thecrav
03-08-2016, 12:37 PM
Did they use angelfire free or premium?

I just checked and they're using HostGator. I have so many thoughts about that fact.


I am having trouble finding the info for 2016 Eternal Weekend. Do you have a link or know of dates? We are considering the same decision of Columbus/EE.

It hasn't been posted yet. From what I understand, the TO is still waiting on WotC to give them a date. I'd appreciate it if he'd at least say that rather than having his site show the 2015 info :/


You Americans and Euros (so basically this entire forum) have no idea how good you have it. 70 something players from all around Australia flew down to Melbourne just to play in two Legacy side events at the modern GP we had on last weekend. 5 rounds, no cut to top 8. Prizes were essentially booster packs/boxes and GP T-shirts.

To have access to events like these would be a dream come true for pretty much all of us.

Just because your events suck doesn't mean that we shouldn't strive to make ours better.


I'm doing Columbus and EE4, so should everyone else. Support your format.

I think that's exactly the idea here. Support the format by still going to the high-level events (EE and EW) while making a statement that we don't want companies like PES screwing up our rare opportunities to play in that sort of event.

~~~End responding to quotes~~~'

FWIW, my decision on GP Columbus vs Eternal Weekend was decided by "Hey self, would you rather spend a weekend in Columbus, Ohio or in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania?"

iamajellydonut
03-08-2016, 12:47 PM
"Hey self, would you rather spend a weekend in Columbus, Ohio or in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania?"

"nnn-neither."

Bryant Cook
03-08-2016, 01:28 PM
I think that's exactly the idea here. Support the format by still going to the high-level events (EE and EW) while making a statement that we don't want companies like PES screwing up our rare opportunities to play in that sort of event.

Not going to Columbus doesn't show Wizards you don't support PES. It shows that you don't support Legacy. The big factor on future events will be the turnout, not who ran it.

thecrav
03-08-2016, 02:35 PM
Not going to Columbus doesn't show Wizards you don't support PES. It shows that you don't support Legacy.

I disagree. Unfortunately, there's not really any way to know if this is true without actually asking OP. Several of the people vocally boycotting are also making sure to let OP know their reasons.

We're also still supporting Legacy. We're just doing it at a different tournament.


The big factor on future events will be the turnout, not who ran it.

*All the following stats North America only

First, I don't think that this is true. Legacy per-GP attendance more than doubled 2013 to 2014 but we still only got one GP in 2015 (And 2016)

Second, we often forget that the Pro Tour and its associated events, including Grand Prix, are promotional events. Unless WotC plans on putting Underground Seas in boosters some time soon, Legacy will never be a good thing for them to promote. Therefore, they're not likely to have more GPs for it.

Third, turnout and who runs the event are linked. Of the top ten highest attendance GPs, two are Modern Masters (CFB/Cascade), two are the two Modern events PES ran that people complained about. The remaining six are all Star City Games. After GP DC this weekend, SCG will have the NA record for largest GP for Limited, Team Limited, Modern, and Legacy. That's not a fluke. It's because they run excellent events.

LARGEST NA GPs OVERALL ATTENDENCE:
GP Vegas 2015 - ChannelFireball & Cascade Games
GP Vegas 2013 - ChannelFireball & Cascade Games
GP Richmond 2014 (Modern) - Star City Games
GP New Jersey 2014 (Legacy) - Star City Games
GP Chrlotte 2105 (Modern) - Star City Games
GP Pittsburgh 2015 (Modern) - PES
GP Detroit 2016 (Modern) - PES
GP Worcester 2014 (Modern) - Star City Games
GP Orlando 2014 (Limited) - Star City Games
GP Atlanta 2015 (Limited) - Star City Games

LARGEST NA GPs, PER FORMAT:
Legacy - GP New Jersey 2014 - Star City Games
Modern - GP Richmond 2014 - Star City Games
Standard - GP Chicago 2014 - Pasttimes
Limited (other than Modern Masters) - GP Charlotte 2013 - Star City Games
Team Limited - GP Detroit - PES*

cdr
03-08-2016, 02:40 PM
On the bright side, if PES fucks Columbus up as much as they've fucked up every GP for the past few years, Wizards might actually not give them GPs next year.

Guptil and Wizards go way back, but Wizards has also consistently pulled GPs from TOs who run them poorly. And also Legion, that was after I stopped judging, no idea what happened there.

thefringthing
03-08-2016, 02:47 PM
GP Detroit seemed reasonably well-run to me. I'm aware of the people posting on reddit about how they got in a fight with the TO over refunds or whatever, but in terms of making a big tournament happen smoothly, I think they did fine this time.

Parcher
03-08-2016, 02:50 PM
FWIW, my decision on GP Columbus vs Eternal Weekend was decided by "Hey self, would you rather spend a weekend in Columbus, Ohio or in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania?"

Well, EE4 is in Allentown. Not Philly. Philly sucks, but does have Reading Market. Which is sort of legendary in the community. Funny thing is, Columbus' North Market is probably the only indoor market I would rate over Reading. So there's that. But since Reading is off the table, since, y'know, Allentown is nowhere near Philly, I can't recommend the Coopersburg Diner highly enough if you choose the EE. You will not likely find more food for your dollar on their dinner menu outside of maybe Taco Bell.

I'm a fat guy who likes Legacy. But I have priorities.

Bryant Cook
03-08-2016, 05:26 PM
I disagree. Unfortunately, there's not really any way to know if this is true without actually asking OP. Several of the people vocally boycotting are also making sure to let OP know their reasons.

We're also still supporting Legacy. We're just doing it at a different tournament.

*All the following stats North America only

First, I don't think that this is true. Legacy per-GP attendance more than doubled 2013 to 2014 but we still only got one GP in 2015 (And 2016)

Second, we often forget that the Pro Tour and its associated events, including Grand Prix, are promotional events. Unless WotC plans on putting Underground Seas in boosters some time soon, Legacy will never be a good thing for them to promote. Therefore, they're not likely to have more GPs for it.

Third, turnout and who runs the event are linked. Of the top ten highest attendance GPs, two are Modern Masters (CFB/Cascade), two are the two Modern events PES ran that people complained about. The remaining six are all Star City Games. After GP DC this weekend, SCG will have the NA record for largest GP for Limited, Team Limited, Modern, and Legacy. That's not a fluke. It's because they run excellent events.

LARGEST NA GPs OVERALL ATTENDENCE:
GP Vegas 2015 - ChannelFireball & Cascade Games
GP Vegas 2013 - ChannelFireball & Cascade Games
GP Richmond 2014 (Modern) - Star City Games
GP New Jersey 2014 (Legacy) - Star City Games
GP Chrlotte 2105 (Modern) - Star City Games
GP Pittsburgh 2015 (Modern) - PES
GP Detroit 2016 (Modern) - PES
GP Worcester 2014 (Modern) - Star City Games
GP Orlando 2014 (Limited) - Star City Games
GP Atlanta 2015 (Limited) - Star City Games

LARGEST NA GPs, PER FORMAT:
Legacy - GP New Jersey 2014 - Star City Games
Modern - GP Richmond 2014 - Star City Games
Standard - GP Chicago 2014 - Pasttimes
Limited (other than Modern Masters) - GP Charlotte 2013 - Star City Games
Team Limited - GP Detroit - PES*

It's hard to compare PES to SCG, one is clearly a powerhouse in the industry and well... the other is PES. That said, I don't think it reflects well on the format to have a bunch of people skip a Grand Prix because of the company running the event. I honestly don't believe Wizards will view it as a cause of PES running a poor quality event, but more likely a dying interest in the format after SCG's absence.



GP Detroit seemed reasonably well-run to me. I'm aware of the people posting on reddit about how they got in a fight with the TO over refunds or whatever, but in terms of making a big tournament happen smoothly, I think they did fine this time.

You mean how every single round went 30 minutes over time? I was there and it was fucking miserable.

Esper3k
03-08-2016, 06:05 PM
I think if Legacy players are vocal enough on social media, WoTC will at least take future tournaments into consideration.

It's pretty well known that Eternal players are pretty hardcore about their formats. If a TO is doing poorly enough to turn off Legacy players from the one US GP we have / year, I think that will at least get someone's attention.

Pomegrant
03-08-2016, 09:02 PM
GP Detroit seemed reasonably well-run to me. I'm aware of the people posting on reddit about how they got in a fight with the TO over refunds or whatever, but in terms of making a big tournament happen smoothly, I think they did fine this time.

Being part of the event, I greatly disagree. 25-30 minutes of wait time after a round ends is not acceptable.

Koby
03-08-2016, 09:38 PM
I'm avoiding all Grand Prix this year in protest of exorbitant entrance fees that seem to runaway with no limit. Also, PES is dogshit. No thanks.

Stevestamopz
03-09-2016, 12:20 AM
Being part of the event, I greatly disagree. 25-30 minutes of wait time after a round ends is not acceptable.

Time to get food/cigarettes/take a dump between rounds? Sounds like all upside to me :cool:

lordofthepit
03-09-2016, 03:43 AM
Strictly from an EV standpoint, Grand Prix tournaments are horrible, prizes are disproportionately small for events this size. If you aren't interested in qualifying for the Pro Tour, there isn't much of a reason to play in them.

Agreed, but I would add the caveat that you can still enjoy the Grand Prix for the sake of competition. I have no intention of ever qualifying for the Pro Tour, but I'd still be interested in playing local Legacy GPs because that is the game at the highest level as far as I'm concerned.

Ephemeron
03-09-2016, 09:14 AM
Time to get food/cigarettes/take a dump between rounds? Sounds like all upside to me :cool:

Yeah but you're not gonna take a shit after every round. The first one or even two are all upside but if you're tacking 30 minutes on to every round of a 9 round day, you're gonna be there for another 4.5 hours on what is already a very long day and that's pathetic from any TO worth their salt.

Stuart
03-09-2016, 01:29 PM
FWIW, my decision on GP Columbus vs Eternal Weekend was decided by "Hey self, would you rather spend a weekend in Columbus, Ohio or in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania?"

Wait, has Eternal Weekend been announced? Cause I made the same decision (based on the same criteria :laugh:) but I thought they haven't posted dates yet . . .

MGB
03-09-2016, 03:40 PM
Is there some reason people on here can't attend both EE4 *and* GP Columbus?

I mean, there are only so many big Legacy tournaments available. Why not attend as many as you can?

iamajellydonut
03-09-2016, 03:44 PM
Is there some reason people on here can't attend both EE4 *and* GP Columbus?

$$$$$$?

Seems relevant.

H
03-09-2016, 03:57 PM
$$$$$$?

Seems relevant.

Free time as well? Not living near any of those places? Amount of vacation time from work?

If those were in my back yard, it'd be one thing, but I live in the middle of nowhere. I also only get a week off per year.

Undomian
03-09-2016, 04:11 PM
FWIW, my decision on GP Columbus vs Eternal Weekend was decided by "Hey self, would you rather spend a weekend in Columbus, Ohio or in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania?"

I actually really like Columbus :rolleyes:

In the end I guess I'm kind of lucky to live in the middle of the two events, so I'll be going to both the GP and to EE4.

UseLess
03-09-2016, 04:18 PM
Thanks all for the replies, it's definitely good to know in advance that the TO of the GP does not have the best reputation. I'm quite limited with respect to the time frame I have available for these events. It should either be the weekend before the GP or the weekend of the GP so if Eternal Weekend is not in one of those I probably can't make it. Would've been great if EE4 was in one of those weekends but unfortunately its the week after and that isn't a real option for me. Anyway, any info about the weekends is still welcome as I have to plan/book everything still.

Undomian
03-09-2016, 04:34 PM
Thanks all for the replies, it's definitely good to know in advance that the TO of the GP does not have the best reputation. I'm quite limited with respect to the time frame I have available for these events. It should either be the weekend before the GP or the weekend of the GP so if Eternal Weekend is not in one of those I probably can't make it. Would've been great if EE4 was in one of those weekends but unfortunately its the week after and that isn't a real option for me. Anyway, any info about the weekends is still welcome as I have to plan/book everything still.

Realistically, you should take everything said in this thread with about an entire shaker of salt. People will find things to complain about even if the tournament is run by the best TO in the world. If you have the time and the money, why not come play some Legacy? It also helps that Columbus has some great stuff to do (really good food, stuff to do in the Short North, and an awesome rhythm game arcade if you're into that) for those times when you're not playing Magic.

god_campbell
03-10-2016, 10:00 AM
We just booked our hotel, traveling like 10 hours from butt fucking Sudbury in Ontario for it, so its def worth the trip as gp road trips are the best trips i have been on.

square_two
03-10-2016, 10:08 AM
We just booked our hotel, traveling like 10 hours from butt fucking Sudbury in Ontario for it, so its def worth the trip as gp road trips are the best trips i have been on.

Yep - I've got 3 friends I will most likely be riding 11 hours with to get to Columbus. Might even be able to convince another carload to join us since legacy has really been taking off (finally) in our area. Legacy FNM's the last few weeks with 18-22 people each week.

I traveled with a buddy to Seattle and we had a great time. Plane ticket expenses and everything else worth it by far - except now I am really jealous of the quality of LGS they have there (Mox Boarding house, looking at you).

UseLess
03-10-2016, 11:55 AM
I'm sure it is great fun to do such a trip with friends, but would you still be driving for 10 hours if you did it by yourself? That's part of my problem, as I will either have to meet up with people I never met before, or I'll be stuck by myself and I know from previous experiences that that isn't really my thing ;). It's been crazy busy at work this week and won't be better next week, but I hope to be able to buy the tickets during Easter and will see what becomes of it then :).

square_two
03-10-2016, 12:01 PM
I'm sure it is great fun to do such a trip with friends, but would you still be driving for 10 hours if you did it by yourself? That's part of my problem, as I will either have to meet up with people I never met before, or I'll be stuck by myself and I know from previous experiences that that isn't really my thing ;). It's been crazy busy at work this week and won't be better next week, but I hope to be able to buy the tickets during Easter and will see what becomes of it then :).

I think so. I'm actually considering taking my motorcycle on its first road trip, I've got an old college friend who lives 80 miles from Columbus. Decision is still pending on me actually getting the thing back into driving condition from its winter stasis. I'm a bit of an introvert though.

chemicalstylez
03-13-2016, 10:17 PM
I debated it myself, but Columbus is meh. I like to go out and hit the night life afterwards. If your going for strictly magic than my opinion is utterly worthless. I wish it was in Atlantic city every time, magic, poker, clubs, booze. Total win there.

btm10
03-13-2016, 11:09 PM
I'm sure it is great fun to do such a trip with friends, but would you still be driving for 10 hours if you did it by yourself? That's part of my problem, as I will either have to meet up with people I never met before, or I'll be stuck by myself and I know from previous experiences that that isn't really my thing ;). It's been crazy busy at work this week and won't be better next week, but I hope to be able to buy the tickets during Easter and will see what becomes of it then :).

You're welcome to hang out with me and some Philly (and possibly Cleveland) people. Columbus is actually a great town.




I debated it myself, but Columbus is meh. I like to go out and hit the night life afterwards. If your going for strictly magic than my opinion is utterly worthless. I wish it was in Atlantic city every time, magic, poker, clubs, booze. Total win there.


You just aren't going to the right places in Cbus. I'd take it (or any decent sized Midwestern city) over Baltimore, AC, or Wilmington any day.

chemicalstylez
03-14-2016, 12:52 PM
You're welcome to hang out with me and some Philly (and possibly Cleveland) people. Columbus is actually a great town.






You just aren't going to the right places in Cbus. I'd take it (or any decent sized Midwestern city) over Baltimore, AC, or Wilmington any day.

Different strokes for different folks 👍

Richard Cheese
03-14-2016, 04:51 PM
I think so. I'm actually considering taking my motorcycle on its first road trip, I've got an old college friend who lives 80 miles from Columbus. Decision is still pending on me actually getting the thing back into driving condition from its winter stasis. I'm a bit of an introvert though.

You got me temporarily excited to do a bike trip, then I checked the map and realized Columbus is 19 hours from here. Through Kansas. And Missouri.

.dk
03-14-2016, 06:09 PM
You got me temporarily excited to do a bike trip, then I checked the map and realized Columbus is 19 hours from here. Through Kansas. And Missouri.

Yeah, I know we've talked about motorcycle trips... but I don't think this is the one. :)

Nocley
03-22-2016, 04:29 PM
To be fair, a majority of the issues that have haunted PES for the Detroit/Pittsburgh GPs seemed to be closer related to side events and unexpectedly high turnouts (which wasn't communicated fully well).

For diehards like us who go to play a specific main event format, those issues are less related to TO. The only direct factor that the TO has is organization (and even then a lot of it is still judges), communication (such as the cap in Pittsburgh), and entry fees (which as Koby said is stupidly high, but still less for Columbus than the past few GPs). By no way am I justifying that PES is a decent TO (they aren't), but for anyone going for just the main event, it's nothing to fear that much, as long as you pre-register (and it looks like the website linked previously has been updated to allow preregistration, with a count of free seats, with nothing else listed). So at least they're trying to be organized with regards to the cap this time. As for round turnaround, that usually is not the TOs fault (exception being the first few rounds of GP NJ due to all the drops after people got their swag bags), as these are related to players playing slowly, judge calls, players being dumb and not handing in their match slips, etc.

That being said, I will not be going, due to two weddings in May, and a 5 day trip to San Francisco the week after the GP (which auto prevents me from going to EE4), which I can't afford to travel two full days for Columbus (since flying there from Seattle is a full day lost traveling each way due to flight scheduling). Agreed that Eternal Weekend really needs to be announced, as I know the contingent from Seattle who wants to go would like to start handling travel plans (which gets increasingly difficult/expensive from March on for anything during the summer).

thecrav
03-24-2016, 02:22 PM
While I'm sure they always had a large amount of control, WotC appears to now be 100% selecting the playmats for GPs and they've all been announced here (http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/organized-play/second-quarter-grand-prix-goodies-2016-03-24). Events occurring on the same weekend will now have the same playmat.

To double the pain, it's a card that hasn't seen widespread legacy play in multiple years.
http://media.wizards.com/2016/images/daily/OP20160324_Columbus.png
http://media.wizards.com/2016/images/daily/OP20160324_Prague.png

Certainly an... interesting choice. Geist has been all but irrelevant since the printing of True Name Nemesis. I looked back through SCG's deck archives. The last time Geist was played in an SCG Open or Classic and finished high enough to have its deck posted was October 2014 (http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=75183). The last time that Geist posted these kind of results in the maindeck was November of 2013 (http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=60409).

Esper3k
03-24-2016, 02:36 PM
It actually looks pretty cool on a playmat but man I'm glad I got my sweet Delver playmat last year.

iamajellydonut
03-24-2016, 02:42 PM
Yeah, Geist is pretty underwhelming for a Legacy pick, but it sure beats the hell out of the rest of them. Can't say I've ever wanted a shitty Limited common as a playmat.

Sure does suck to be anywhere but GP Toronto.

Richard Cheese
03-24-2016, 03:06 PM
Yeah, Geist is pretty underwhelming for a Legacy pick, but it sure beats the hell out of the rest of them. Can't say I've ever wanted a shitty Limited common as a playmat.

Sure does suck to be anywhere but GP Toronto.

Damn, the Toronto mat is pretty legit, this coming from someone that almost never uses them. Toronto is also a pretty great city, and currently the event is only $45 USD...why oh why does it have to be Standard constructed!? If this was basically any other format I'd consider going.

Also I just noticed that 3/7 playmats feature Jace, so that's cool. Can't wait to see what products get tied into their shitty half-baked superhero storyline next.

Seraphix
03-24-2016, 04:29 PM
I am totally baffled by this choice of artwork for a Legacy GP playmat.

Sure, Wizards probably wanted it to be something from Innistrad due to SOI block's release, but there are SO many choices that are much more relevant to the Legacy format. I would have thought Snapcaster Mage, Liliana of the Veil, or Griselbrand to be SUPER low-hanging fruit for an Innistrad-themed mat, but clearly Wizards had other ideas.

thecrav
03-24-2016, 06:32 PM
I am totally baffled by this choice of artwork for a Legacy GP playmat.

Sure, Wizards probably wanted it to be something from Innistrad due to SOI block's release, but there are SO many choices that are much more relevant to the Legacy format. I would have thought Snapcaster Mage, Liliana of the Veil, or Griselbrand to be SUPER low-hanging fruit for an Innistrad-themed mat, but clearly Wizards had other ideas.

Liliana and Snapcaster are both Modern staples, which would've made the playmat more desirable as well.

While we're throwing out INN block cards that would've been cool to have a playmat of, Terminus and Entreat the Angels both have at that's super sweet when blown up.

cab0747
03-24-2016, 11:37 PM
Yeah, I know we've talked about motorcycle trips... but I don't think this is the one. :)

Coming from Pittsburgh, Cbus is the perfect distance.

I would 100% take the bike there if I wasn't carpooling with friends.

jrsthethird
03-25-2016, 03:37 AM
here (http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/organized-play/second-quarter-grand-prix-goodies-2016-03-24).


This Sunday's Magic Online Pro Tour Qualifier (PTQ) Finals is Battle for Zendikar/Oath of the Gatewatch limited with a Modern Filans on Saturday, and Preliminaries that award the token you need for this weekend (or a future Constructed PTQ Finals) start up again today at 8:30 a.m. PT/3:30 p.m. UTC. Additional Preliminaries take place at 2:30 p.m. and 5:30 p.m. PT.

Ugh Wizards....

Richard Cheese
03-25-2016, 10:19 AM
Coming from Pittsburgh, Cbus is the perfect distance.

I would 100% take the bike there if I wasn't carpooling with friends.

Why not do both!?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfYT6cRCYAAZWf5.jpg

UseLess
04-16-2016, 09:55 AM
Just an update from the OP. I'm really grateful for all the info and offers I got here and had made up my mind that I wanted to go. For some reason though the ticket to the conference only was now about $150 cheaper and since I'm paying the difference, my flight ticket including the GP became just too expensive. I was looking at a $600-800 trip for a GP, which was not worth it to me. Maybe another time, I'm definitely keeping a look out for future GPs :).