Teluin
02-07-2017, 05:52 PM
Alright, so here's the situation (copy pasted from my post in Elves!):
He finally gets the mana to cast a S&T into Emrakuul but by the time he could attack I had him at 2 with 3 guys in play, a Nether Void and 4 lands so I cast another Void*, passed the turn and sac'd the lands/Voids after he attacked. The 3 creatures were left and let me win game 1.
The * is where the problem is - can I do that? I'm pretty sure I had some 'dead' fetch lands in my hand so I would've won regardless, but I want to know for other matches.
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The rule states: 704.5m If two or more permanents have the supertype world, all except the one that has had the world supertype for the shortest amount of time are put into their owners’ graveyards. In the event of a tie for the shortest amount of time, all are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is called the “world rule.”
The reason I'm confused is because it says "If two or more permanents" and under Rulings it says "Unlike the “legend rule,” the “world rule” doesn't care about the names of permanents. It cares only about the world supertype."
Not to mention that when you read the Rulings on the WotC website for an Enchant World card, it states "This has the supertype world. When a world permanent enters the battlefield, any world permanents that were already on the battlefield are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is a state-based action called the “world rule.” The new world permanent stays on the battlefield. If two world permanents enter the battlefield at the same time, they’re both put into their owners’ graveyards."
I bolded the parts that are relevant - both rule/ruling use plural, so my understanding is there CAN be 2 World cards in play. The only possible situation that I can think of would be duplicates of the same World card.
TL:DR - can 2 of the same Enchant World be in play at the same time?
Honestly, I tried to find an answer online but this seems to be a pretty obscure topic as it hasn't been relevant in 20ish years.
Thanks
He finally gets the mana to cast a S&T into Emrakuul but by the time he could attack I had him at 2 with 3 guys in play, a Nether Void and 4 lands so I cast another Void*, passed the turn and sac'd the lands/Voids after he attacked. The 3 creatures were left and let me win game 1.
The * is where the problem is - can I do that? I'm pretty sure I had some 'dead' fetch lands in my hand so I would've won regardless, but I want to know for other matches.
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The rule states: 704.5m If two or more permanents have the supertype world, all except the one that has had the world supertype for the shortest amount of time are put into their owners’ graveyards. In the event of a tie for the shortest amount of time, all are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is called the “world rule.”
The reason I'm confused is because it says "If two or more permanents" and under Rulings it says "Unlike the “legend rule,” the “world rule” doesn't care about the names of permanents. It cares only about the world supertype."
Not to mention that when you read the Rulings on the WotC website for an Enchant World card, it states "This has the supertype world. When a world permanent enters the battlefield, any world permanents that were already on the battlefield are put into their owners’ graveyards. This is a state-based action called the “world rule.” The new world permanent stays on the battlefield. If two world permanents enter the battlefield at the same time, they’re both put into their owners’ graveyards."
I bolded the parts that are relevant - both rule/ruling use plural, so my understanding is there CAN be 2 World cards in play. The only possible situation that I can think of would be duplicates of the same World card.
TL:DR - can 2 of the same Enchant World be in play at the same time?
Honestly, I tried to find an answer online but this seems to be a pretty obscure topic as it hasn't been relevant in 20ish years.
Thanks