View Full Version : Who's using Weathered Wayfarer?
tescrin
05-23-2017, 02:43 PM
I have a set of these guys and it seems his price, aside from maybe being in the midst of a spike (could be bad data), are up to $13 even without said spike. Is it really just for EDH or is someone using it in Modern or Legacy? Every time I look at him I think "ehhh?" but fact is, most of the time he'll be worse than Thraben Inspector between none-guaranteed card advantage and his advantage being lower quality, on a worse body.
And no one uses Inspector...
So that brings back my question, is it just EDH's Thawing Glaciers #2?
Octopusman
05-23-2017, 02:56 PM
I have a set of these guys and it seems his price, aside from maybe being in the midst of a spike (could be bad data), are up to $13 even without said spike. Is it really just for EDH or is someone using it in Modern or Legacy? Every time I look at him I think "ehhh?" but fact is, most of the time he'll be worse than Thraben Inspector between none-guaranteed card advantage and his advantage being lower quality, on a worse body.
And no one uses Inspector...
So that brings back my question, is it just EDH's Thawing Glaciers #2?
I use it in UW Tempo sometimes. I don't know where the comparison with inspector is coming from but it's great for grabbing wasteland after wasteland.
phonics
05-23-2017, 03:08 PM
Yeah I got my set for uw tempo too, but its one of the best t1 plays in edh I think since it can grab any land not just basics.
tescrin
05-23-2017, 03:23 PM
I use it in UW Tempo sometimes. I don't know where the comparison with inspector is coming from but it's great for grabbing wasteland after wasteland.
The comparison is just that they are both 1/x {W} 1-drops that have Card Advantage attached; and both bits of CA require mana. Thraben eventually draws you a card, Wayfarer isn't guaranteed to get you anything, but might get multiple cards. They might be the only white 1-drops other than token-makers that get actual CA.
My issue when trying to get multiple wastelands came up with the fact that getting multiple wastelands implies that you've got less lands than your opponent, which runs counter to wasting your opponent out unless you stagger your wastelands by an extra turn. If he works then great, but I couldn't get him to work in legacy.
To clarify, I do know the trick with wastelands/fetches and I'm not arguing for/against his viability, just that I am trying to figure out if he's being used in a deck. Apparently UW tempo, which I've never played/heard of, which is interesting.
infiniteJ
05-23-2017, 08:11 PM
The comparison is just that they are both 1/x {W} 1-drops that have Card Advantage attached; and both bits of CA require mana. Thraben eventually draws you a card, Wayfarer isn't guaranteed to get you anything, but might get multiple cards. They might be the only white 1-drops other than token-makers that get actual CA.
My issue when trying to get multiple wastelands came up with the fact that getting multiple wastelands implies that you've got less lands than your opponent, which runs counter to wasting your opponent out unless you stagger your wastelands by an extra turn. If he works then great, but I couldn't get him to work in legacy.
To clarify, I do know the trick with wastelands/fetches and I'm not arguing for/against his viability, just that I am trying to figure out if he's being used in a deck. Apparently UW tempo, which I've never played/heard of, which is interesting.
i occasionally take him and the fathom seers and knight of white orchids out for a spin. UW tempo is an outdated deck designed to prey on an old meta. Im not aware of anyone actually playing WW.
alderon666
05-23-2017, 08:41 PM
The comparison is just that they are both 1/x {W} 1-drops that have Card Advantage attached; and both bits of CA require mana. Thraben eventually draws you a card, Wayfarer isn't guaranteed to get you anything, but might get multiple cards. They might be the only white 1-drops other than token-makers that get actual CA.
My issue when trying to get multiple wastelands came up with the fact that getting multiple wastelands implies that you've got less lands than your opponent, which runs counter to wasting your opponent out unless you stagger your wastelands by an extra turn. If he works then great, but I couldn't get him to work in legacy.
To clarify, I do know the trick with wastelands/fetches and I'm not arguing for/against his viability, just that I am trying to figure out if he's being used in a deck. Apparently UW tempo, which I've never played/heard of, which is interesting.
Having less lands than the opponent is actually the easiest part. Just Daze something or activate his ability while your Wasteland/Fetchland trigger is on the stack.
It's just the curse of Legacy. Cards is printed before the Magic boom, sees nonzero play, gets only 1 printing and rises in price.
Ace/Homebrew
05-23-2017, 10:24 PM
Its one of the best t1 plays in edh I think since it can grab any land not just basics.
This is my understanding. Multiplayer format so someone will ramp to let you use him, even on the play. Assembling your broken lands early is nuts and it let's you funnel your early turns and mana into card advantage then turn around and nuke the board with little regret or sympathy for opponents that invested in board presence instead.
Plus it finds Thawing Glaciers... so... :wink:
lavafrogg
05-23-2017, 10:32 PM
i occasionally take him and the fathom seers and knight of white orchids out for a spin. UW tempo is an outdated deck designed to prey on an old meta. Im not aware of anyone actually playing WW.
Is the old UW thread still the most toxic/banned thread on the source?
Skizz
05-26-2017, 09:39 AM
used it long time ago in a vial maverick list - was great at finding all utility lands.
grimfield
05-27-2017, 03:49 PM
I have also seen it used in an interesting knight/humans/dark depths list that was junk colored. This is a card I have brewed with a fair amount and can certainly be good; that said, I'm not sure there is a good shell for it presently.
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Kanti
05-28-2017, 01:36 PM
Is the old UW thread still the most toxic/banned thread on the source?
I recently tested that deck vs the meta. It boasts 65% win rates vs Infect, Show and Tell, and Storm, but falls to a measly 55% vs BUG midrange variants. The banning of Top hit the deck hard as it had over an 80% win rate vs that deck.
Hanni
05-28-2017, 01:42 PM
I recently tested that deck vs the meta. It boasts 65% win rates vs Infect, Show and Tell, and Storm, but falls to a measly 55% vs BUG midrange variants. The banning of Top hit the deck hard as it had over an 80% win rate vs that deck.
This is false. You're either really bad with the deck, or playing a suboptimal version. My win-rate against BUG Midrange is 60%+.
I have to read anything about UW tempo with thick sarcasm lenses to decipher the humor. Good to see you can all still beat that horse corpse.
Octopusman
05-31-2017, 11:26 PM
Hilarity aside, I still yearn for Avenger, jotun grunt, etc and don't discount their viability, especially now.
Wayfarer is an amazing 1 card, 1 drop engine, not to be underestimated.
I appreciate this post and encourage anyone brewing with it to PM me.
Most recently, I brewed it with Thing in the Ice for cantrip, tempo, control. Sounds fun, right?
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