GP Vegas Thread

[LOLWut]

Should be starting to stream in a little more than half a day. Commence hype.

"Expect (http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/organized-play/amaz-comes-kyoto-plus-video-through-june-2017-05-25) to see the entirety of the Legacy main event, the Limited Top 8 draft and matches, and a whole lot of Modern to close out the weekend."

https://www.twitch.tv/magic

[ironclad8690]

So glad they decided to cover entirety of legacy! I will make sure to send tweets of happiness and support, the opposite of my outrage GP Louisville tweets.

[datanaga]

Does anybody know when and where the stream will start?
https://www.twitch.tv/magic is still ofline
https://www.twitch.tv/channelfireball is also offline

[Claymore]

Should start at 12pm EST/9am PST (~20 minutes from now).

[H]

According to CF's twitter, it will be on the Magic channel. No idea when it will start they just said 9, local time. So, I guess any minute now...

[Scott]

Merfolk vs. Grixis Tempo on camera in round 1 right now.

People in the twitch chat say there are 2,500 players.

[Skyl3lazer]

Merfolk vs. Grixis Tempo on camera in round 1 right now.

People in the twitch chat say there are 2,500 players.

2362 players for legacy. 3500 cap - 1138 remain per http://grandprixvegas.com/registration/

2891 modern and 2334 for limited

[LOLWut]

Is there a page with standings or pairings? Curious about how certain people are doing.

[Gheizen64]

Twitch discovering Czech pile for the first time :laugh:

[Barook]

Oh boy, a Turbo Planeswalker clusterfuck deck in Legacy - now this is something you don't see everyday.

[Whitefaces]

Twitch discovering Czech pile for the first time :laugh:

That wasn't Czech Pile technically, just 4c pile of cards.

[LOLWut]

Is there a page with standings or pairings? Curious about how certain people are doing.

Found it. https://twitter.com/magicprotour is tweeting it out from http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gplv17-legacy.

Some notables at 3-0 (presumably many who had byes):

Tomoharu Saito
Shahar Shenhar
Craig Wescoe
Gerry Thompson
Owen Turtenwald
Reid Duke
Jarvis Yu
Eric Froehlich
Brian Braun-Duin
Tim Akpinar
Zach Koch
Shawn Yu
Danny Batterman
Joe Lossett
Eetai Ben-Sasson
Rudy Briksza
Andrew Tenjum
Todd Anderson

[LOLWut]

http://i.imgur.com/5fQfnOm.png

Haversat is on Czech Pile, Blohon is on Grixis Control, Smith is on Sneak & Show, Koch is probably on Infect, not sure about the rest

[Whitefaces]

Sam Roukas and Matthew Chung are on Miracles.

[Hopo]

Some Death's Shadow deck was undefeated after day 1. Does anyone happen to know more? It's an interesting concept, I hope to see Snuff Out back in business.

EDIT: I was a careless reader. It was undefeated before the last round but there's no info after that.

[Whitefaces]

Some Death's Shadow deck was undefeated after day 1. Does anyone happen to know more? It's an interesting concept, I hope to see Snuff Out back in business.

Where did you hear that?

Undefeated decks are

2 Grixis Delver
2 Miracles
1 Infect
1 RUG Delver
1 Grixis Control
1 Sneak and Show
1 4c Leo
1 ?

The unknown is Sam Tharmaratnam, apparently his first Legacy GP so probably not Shadow. Josh Utter-Layton is 8-1 with UB Death's Shadow though, maybe that's what you heard? It looks really strong.

[hovercraft]

Some Death's Shadow deck was undefeated after day 1. Does anyone happen to know more? It's an interesting concept, I hope to see Snuff Out back in business.

EDIT: I was a careless reader. It was undefeated before the last round but there's no info after that.

Yeah it was 7 or 8 and 0 last time it was on stream. I didn't see snuff out, but it was essentially UB Delver with Death's Shadow. Watery Graves, Probes, Street Wraith etc. Gurmag Angler as well, and big counter suite FoW, Daze(daze watery grave is great for Shadow), Spell Pierce, Stifle-Wasteland, Fatal Push.

[Darkenslight]

Player DQed from Vegas (http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gplv17/head-judge-statement-on-marco-cammilluzzi-dq-2017-06-15).

So, this happened in the Legacy GP.

[Gheizen64]

It's always the italians too lmao.

[Xerlic]

Josh Utter-Layton is 8-1 with UB Death's Shadow though, maybe that's what you heard? It looks really strong.
I never thought I'd see the day where returning a Watery Grave to hand with a Daze is a benefit rather than a detriment.

[Gheizen64]

Time to play gush watery graves in vintage?

[CptHaddock]

Some Death's Shadow deck was undefeated after day 1. Does anyone happen to know more? It's an interesting concept, I hope to see Snuff Out back in business.

EDIT: I was a careless reader. It was undefeated before the last round but there's no info after that.

Death's Shadow has seen some fringe play in legacy, my favorite shadow deck is still Greg Hatch's (http://tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=9747&iddeck=71185) that played it + niv magus elemental. I haven't seen coverage yet but I bet it's based on the MTGO list (https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/legacy-ubg-38965#paper)that recently did well in the Legacy challenge on mtgo.

[Sefir]

Honestly, I wasn't that impressed from the Death's Shadow deck. It seemed like a deck that auto-scoops to Chalice on 1....

[Dice_Box]

Honestly, I wasn't that impressed from the Death's Shadow deck. It seemed like a deck that auto-scoops to Chalice on 1....
Thats not an uncommon weakness in Legacy really. The deck has that issue in Modern as well. Overall, when you want to beat people down with a 1 drop 9/9, I would take the trade of "Burn and Chalice will fuck me." I mean that's the trade I take when I play it in Modern.

[Ephemeron]

Thats not an uncommon weakness in Legacy really. The deck has that issue in Modern as well. Overall, when you want to beat people down with a 1 drop 9/9, I would take the trade of "Burn and Chalice will fuck me." I mean that's the trade I take when I play it in Modern.

Is Chalice actually a card people play in Modern? No sol lands + no cantrip cartel makes it seem like Chalice would be pretty mediocre overall.

I agree with the Deaths Shadow deck looking mediocre, it just looked like a much worse version of a normal Delver deck. I would imagine Grixis delver would shitcan that pile with DRS and Bolt for reach while you're killing yourself with your mana base and Pyromancer to spit out chump blockers. It's also not a real threat against combo decks.

[Dice_Box]

Is Chalice actually a card people play in Modern? No sol lands + no cantrip cartel makes it seem like Chalice would be pretty mediocre overall.
Yes. It actually sees more play in Modern than it does in Legacy as it is a mainstay in one of the top decks, Colourless Tron.

[H]

Is Chalice actually a card people play in Modern? No sol lands + no cantrip cartel makes it seem like Chalice would be pretty mediocre overall.

I agree with the Deaths Shadow deck looking mediocre, it just looked like a much worse version of a normal Delver deck. I would imagine Grixis delver would shitcan that pile with DRS and Bolt for reach while you're killing yourself with your mana base and Pyromancer to spit out chump blockers. It's also not a real threat against combo decks.

It really just seems like a different flavor of a tempo/Delver deck, maybe better sometimes, maybe worse.

Never discount the fact that Josh is probably a good bit better a Magic than the average player accounting for some number of those wins.

[Crimhead]

I'm too busy to watch much this weekend. But if there is any footage of Lands, I'd love too see some links when the dust settles.

[Gheizen64]

Miracles 10-0 destroying grixis 2-0. Rudy "newmiracles sucks" Briszka is gonna eat some crow this weekend methinks.

[Ephemeron]

It really just seems like a different flavor of a tempo/Delver deck, maybe better sometimes, maybe worse.

Never discount the fact that Josh is probably a good bit better a Magic than the average player accounting for some number of those wins.

Yeah, I'd assume that Josh being one of the best players in the world is a bigger factor in his record than any particular deck choice. I still think Deaths Shadow on its own seems suboptimal in Legacy, what with Fatal Push, Decay, and most importantly StP being everywhere.

[Soldier of Fortune]

Miracles 10-0 destroying grixis 2-0. Rudy "newmiracles sucks" Briszka is gonna eat some crow this weekend methinks.

In terms of playability, it would seem like the top banning hurt Painter, Doomsday, 12-Post and Nic Fit more than it hurt Miracles. That game was insane and Miracles looked great the whole time.

[Lava Snacks]

Miracles 10-0 destroying grixis 2-0. Rudy "newmiracles sucks" Briszka is gonna eat some crow this weekend methinks.

William "Miracles will be a fringe deck at best" Jensen (really slow to the party, saying it yesterday), too.

[CptHaddock]

In terms of playability, it would seem like the top banning hurt Painter, Doomsday, 12-Post and Nic Fit more than it hurt Miracles. That game was insane and Miracles looked great the whole time.

Who would have guessed that top being banned would hurt nonblue decks that are relying on it as a consistency engine? :rolleyes:

Were the games really that good? Game 1 looked like your standard control vs control battle where the person with the Jace the longest won with Lucas scooping a little prematurely (imo) and in game 2 that was a pretty lucky brainstorm into blood moon/snapcaster although with Predict/Portent/BS/Ponder you can argue that you were bound to find those combination of cards. Not discounting topless miracles, terminus is a busted card and the UW control shell is still amazing.

[Crimhead]

It remains to be seen, but I suspect the Top ban will prove to demote Miracles from tier-0.5 to regular tier-1.

I know Lands is much better against the new build, hopefully it will have some other tough MUs and be kept in check.

[Barook]

Top was absolutely the right ban, even if a few fringe decks were thrown under the bus for it. Sucks for them, but it's never the fair decks that get the cards banned, it's the degenerate decks. And Top Miracles was absolutely degenerate, considering it's 3 years of uncontested dominance, whether you live in denial about it or not.

But then again, Legacy's cantrips are still overpowered bullshit, the sky is blue and water is wet. More news at 11.

[ReAnimator]

Yeah, I'd assume that Josh being one of the best players in the world is a bigger factor in his record than any particular deck choice. I still think Deaths Shadow on its own seems suboptimal in Legacy, what with Fatal Push, Decay, and most importantly StP being everywhere.

The main reason to run Shadow in Modern is you are the best Fetch/Shock Land deck in the format. Modern is all about the mana bases, tron and Eldrazi do the best of what they are allowed to in their niches, same with Affinity. For all the decks that run Fetches and Shocks, Shadow actually incentivizes you for being as greedy as possible and turns the draw backs in to a bonus.

Legacy there isn't a reason to run shocks, you are making your self into the worst fetch land deck as opposed to the best.

I wonder if anyone will ever explore Tarnished Citadel for Legacy Death Shadow. It gives you an incentive to being 5 colour with a beneficial draw back. Probably not good enough.

[Lormador]

I don't understand how the coverage can be this bad. Not the commentary, which is the same as it's always been: but rather the trimmings. How is it possible that I just watched 3 of the same Hour of Devastation ads running back to back and in complete silence? Clearly they would rather I entertain myself by complaining about the coverage than watch it.

Though I guess with the number of people watching this event, I shouldn't complain.

[RhoxWarMonk]

I don't understand how the coverage can be this bad. Not the commentary, which is the same as it's always been: but rather the trimmings. How is it possible that I just watched 3 of the same Hour of Devastation ads running back to back and in complete silence? Clearly they would rather I entertain myself by complaining about the coverage than watch it.

Though I guess with the number of people watching this event, I shouldn't complain.

It's actually embarrassing. They're trying to promote a MASSIVE GP, that has a ton of people watching and they can't even get a proper stream going for any length of time?

WTF are they using, a smartphone tethered to run their video? JFC guys, it's 2017, invest into a better internet connection.

[JackaBo]

Yeah where are the back up matches?

[Darkenslight]

It's actually embarrassing. They're trying to promote a MASSIVE GP, that has a ton of people watching and they can't even get a proper stream going for any length of time?

WTF are they using, a smartphone tethered to run their video? JFC guys, it's 2017, invest into a better internet connection.

I'll play Devil's Advocate here - I was at another TCG's National event last weekend, and the venue's Internet connectivity was fucking awful outside of the reception, which had a single hard-line. The TO had to not only provide their own hardware, they had to spend all of the night before setting it up so that the planes overhead didn't interfere with the connection. So it's not impossible that the connection was just that shitty.

Still, Wizards should damn well know better by now. I know CFB's Wizards Event team will pay better attention next year.

[tescrin]

It remains to be seen, but I suspect the Top ban will prove to demote Miracles from tier-0.5 to regular tier-1.

I know Lands is much better against the new build, hopefully it will have some other tough MUs and be kept in check.

It will. Just regular Stoneblade style decks are similar grindiness while Deathblade types have the token cards and CA to deal with it. Worst case scenario, Blossom is still house against it IME, and it's a great card against most of the format anyway IMO. The problem before was that your only design had to stretch the manabase to 4 colors and play awkward garbage to get around CTop; now it's just a value deck that you grind against. They get 2-for-1s and you try to get your own.

For instance, Lily is much better against the new one because they can't actually have a 3-card hand despite your lily, they have to brainlock or ponder-lock themselves without a fetch, and even then, they now need another card to find another card. Much better than before since you're not blanking 1/3 of your deck on lands and a 1/2 your deck on 1/2 drops.

[LOLWut]

http://i.imgur.com/gnPNMmq.png

[Mad Mat]

So:

Lands
Grixis delver
Grixis delver
Rug delver
czech pile
???
??
?

[RhoxWarMonk]

So:

Lands
Grixis delver
Grixis delver
Rug delver
czech pile
???
??
?

Wasnt' Zach Koch 12-0? How on earth did he miss top 8?

[RhoxWarMonk]

Death and Taxes is one more

[jandax]

Playing 5 Berserks?

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[Mad Mat]

Anybody knows what Daniel Cathro and Jonathan Semeyn are playing?

[JamieW89]

Anybody knows what Daniel Cathro and Jonathan Semeyn are playing?

Chapin mentioned Delver vs Sneak 'n Show being another QF. So I assume Cathro is playing Sneak 'n Show.

[CptHaddock]

So:

Lands
Grixis delver
Grixis delver
Rug delver
czech pile
???
??
?

Lands
Grixis delver
Grixis delver
Rug delver
czech pile
Skill and Show
D&T
???

I think the last deck might also be Grixis Delver.

[Barook]

Decklists have arrived! (http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gplv17-legacy/top-8-decklists-2017-06-16)

[RhoxWarMonk]

U/R Delver is another

[Mad Mat]

So, basically now:

Lands - won
Grixis delver - won
Grixis delver - lost
Rug delver
czech pile
Sneak and Show - lost
D&T
UR Delver

[RhoxWarMonk]

So, basically now:

Lands - won
Grixis delver - won
Grixis delver - lost
Rug delver
czech pile
Sneak and Show - lost
D&T
UR Delver

DnT and UR Delver won. Rug Delver and 4c Leo lost.

[jimmythegreek]

Same decks as always.....fucking yawn. In a big tournament it comes down to how many nerds play the same internet decks that are predominantly blue. This format is stale as far as competitive magic goes in a large arena.

[Aggro_zombies]

No, in a big tournament it comes down to consistency. The Cantrip Cartel provide you that. Even if the increase in consistency is only 1-2% per game, if you're playing two or three games every round and 10+ rounds, it's a pretty noticeable bump.

Legacy has long been like this. If you want to break blue's hold, you need to ban Brainstorm and one or possibly both of Ponder and Preordain, but that will never happen because I think WotC likes Legacy as the Brainstorm Format.

[supremePINEAPPLE]

Life from the Loam > Punk Ass Brainstorm

[jandax]

I still don't get how a moon-chalice deck didnt run tables in a field like this.

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[jimmythegreek]

No, in a big tournament it comes down to consistency. The Cantrip Cartel provide you that. Even if the increase in consistency is only 1-2% per game, if you're playing two or three games every round and 10+ rounds, it's a pretty noticeable bump.

Legacy has long been like this. If you want to break blue's hold, you need to ban Brainstorm and one or possibly both of Ponder and Preordain, but that will never happen because I think WotC likes Legacy as the Brainstorm Format.

Alright. Same fucking internet decks.

[supremePINEAPPLE]

Alright. Same fucking internet decks.Those darn netdeckers!

[Hanni]

I think the more interesting question is what the field looked like. It's no surprise that Delver decks are dominating now that Top (and therefore Counterbalance) is gone, but I'm curious what the rest of the meta looked like. I'm also surprised to see no Stoneblade decks in feature matches, considering how much Delver there was.

[jimmythegreek]

Those darn netdeckers!
Just sayin, legacy isnt as diverse as people make it out to be. In a large competitive tournament very few decks have a chance to win.

[Aggro_zombies]

Alright. Same fucking internet decks.
And why does that matter? Legacy hasn't been some halcyon Brewer's Paradise since the late 2000s.

[LOLWut]

Just sayin, legacy isnt as diverse as people make it out to be. In a large competitive tournament very few decks have a chance to win.

Placed in tournaments of 100 players or more just since the Top ban, in late April:

Grixis Delver
Death & Taxes
Elves
B/R Reanimator
Sneak & Show
ANT
U/R Delver
Jund
Food Chain
Bant Deathblade
Czech Pile
Lands
Dragon Stompy
Deathblade
Tezzeret Control
Aluren
Dark Depths
Infect
Landstill
Belcher
BUG Delver
Eldrazi
4c Delver
RUG Delver
Aggro Loam
Maverick
U/B Reanimator
Grixis Control
BUG Control
OmniTell

[supremePINEAPPLE]

Just sayin, legacy isnt as diverse as people make it out to be. In a large competitive tournament very few decks have a chance to win.Yeah, for 15 round tournaments the consistent decks will rise to the top and be hard to compete with. At the local shop or mtgo league level the field is wide open though IMO.

[Undomian]

D&T takes it down with only 12 DRS in the top 8. Definitely not what I was expecting.

[Hanni]

D&T takes it down with only 12 DRS in the top 8. Definitely not what I was expecting.

Wait a minute... #bandeathriteshaman amirite? :rolleyes:

[LOLWut]

9-16 (http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gplv17-legacy/9-16-decklists-2017-06-16):

Lands
Sneak & Show
Czech Pile
U/W Stoneblade
Bant Deathblade
U/W Stoneblade
Grixis Delver
BUG Control

[tescrin]

Wait a minute... #bandeathriteshaman amirite? :rolleyes:

Also funny, all 12 are in the same deck archtype

[maharis]

9-16 (http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gplv17-legacy/9-16-decklists-2017-06-16):

BUG Control

This deck is pretty interesting:

Planeswalker (4)
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2 Liliana of the Veil

Creature (10)
2 Baleful Strix
4 Deathrite Shaman
1 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
3 Snapcaster Mage

Sorcery (5)
2 Life from the Loam
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Ponder
1 Toxic Deluge

Instant (17)
3 Abrupt Decay
4 Brainstorm
3 Crop Rotation
3 Force of Will
1 Intuition
3 Stifle

Enchantment (1)
1 Pernicious Deed

Land (24)
1 Bayou
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Cabal Pit
1 Cephalid Coliseum
1 Dark Depths
1 Forest
1 Island
1 Karakas
3 Misty Rainforest
3 Polluted Delta
1 Swamp
1 Thespian's Stage
2 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
4 Wasteland

[apple713]

Wait a minute... #bandeathriteshaman amirite? :rolleyes:

will never happen. Creature with a slow clock that doesn't enable anything broken will NEVER be banned.

[Hanni]

will never happen. Creature with a slow clock that doesn't enable anything broken will NEVER be banned.

I think you missed the eye roll emoji, which was supposed to indicate my sarcasm. The comment was in reference to the ban Deathrite thread that got posted after Top got banned, which was full of whining and silly (poor) arguments.

But yea, I wasn't being serious.

[Dice_Box]

will never happen. Creature with a slow clock that doesn't enable anything broken will NEVER be banned.
You say that, but Recruiter is still on the list.

[Hanni]

9-16 (http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gplv17-legacy/9-16-decklists-2017-06-16):

Lands
Sneak & Show
Czech Pile
U/W Stoneblade
Bant Deathblade
U/W Stoneblade
Grixis Delver
BUG Control

So that's where all the Stoneblade went.

[Blastoderm]

Interesting to see no:

Reanimator, Storm, Elves

[Scott]

I'd love to get deck lists (or at least archetypes) further down the standings. 16th got 37 points, but all the way down to 63rd has at least 36 points.

[apple713]

You say that, but Recruiter is still on the list.

First i want to clarify that the recruiter you are talking about is goblin recruiter

Then i wanted to link this thread. -Is-Goblin-Recruiter-actually-too-powerful-for-the-format (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?26730-Is-Goblin-Recruiter-actually-too-powerful-for-the-format). Lots of really good evidence as to the brokenness of Goblin recruiter.

[MGB]

No Miracles decks in the Top 16 whatsoever.

At least now Miracles is exactly where it should be - just another Tier 1-1.5 deck among many instead of being the de facto best control deck/blue deck/everything.

I'd say Miracles with Portent is definitely playable and strong but not any stronger than Stoneblade, or Deathblade, or straight Ux control without Miracles. Just different.

[Dice_Box]

First i want to clarify that the recruiter you are talking about is goblin recruiter

Then i wanted to link this thread. -Is-Goblin-Recruiter-actually-too-powerful-for-the-format (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?26730-Is-Goblin-Recruiter-actually-too-powerful-for-the-format). Lots of really good evidence as to the brokenness of Goblin recruiter.
I was a poster in that thread, at the time I agreed. Today, I don't. We have a creature card on the list that is weak as piss who if removed, would do nothing of merit. Saying that they would not put a creature who fits that criteria on that list rings hollow when there is one already who is.

Recruiter is about equal to drawing running Matrons these days. Not very strong. If it was off the list, I would put money down it would not end up a four of in anything. Goblins doesn't need it as a 4 of and Chain combo has better options.

Also you don't have to agree with me, but in my views DRS has a 10 fold stronger impact on legacy than Recruiter ever could. I am not suggesting banning it, only that your comment rings hollow, even if it's in jest while another sits there waving and complaining about the injustice of the situation.

That said, I am happy with two Lands decks in the top 9. That's a good day. There was a fact or fiction I saw, "More than one Lands deck will make it into the top 8".dam I wish that had of been true.

[HSCK]

Just sayin, legacy isnt as diverse as people make it out to be. In a large competitive tournament very few decks have a chance to win.

I think you'rereferring to the dice rolling format called modern.

[Megadeus]

I still don't get how a moon-chalice deck didnt run tables in a field like this.

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Because over a 15 round event you get fucked by your consistency issues that bites every chalice deck in the format. The lack of brainstorm. You mull to oblivion three times and lose a couple on the draw from a turn 1 deathrite and your tourney is over because you flooded out while the brainstorm apes put back and shuffled away their extra lands with the card that should've been banned years ago.

[conboy31]

I'd love to get deck lists (or at least archetypes) further down the standings. 16th got 37 points, but all the way down to 63rd has at least 36 points.

Agreed, I was thinking the same thing. I want to make a few decks that are a little different like the Jace/Lilly/Loam deck posted a few before and was curious about what else was out there.

[jandax]

Because over a 15 round event you get fucked by your consistency issues that bites every chalice deck in the format. The lack of brainstorm. You mull to oblivion three times and lose a couple on the draw from a turn 1 deathrite and your tourney is over because you flooded out while the brainstorm apes put back and shuffled away their extra lands with the card that should've been banned years ago.
Mull into oblivion is so negative. I prefer going more all-in 😎

And to be honest it's one 9 round tournament and one 6 round. Considering that the consistent decks trickle upwards, I think making day 2 would be harder than having a good run on day 2 itself.

What do I know about day 2's. I'm just a red mage [emoji16]

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[twndomn]

No Miracles decks in the Top 16 whatsoever.

At least now Miracles is exactly where it should be - just another Tier 1-1.5 deck among many instead of being the de facto best control deck/blue deck/everything.

I'd say Miracles with Portent is definitely playable and strong but not any stronger than Stoneblade, or Deathblade, or straight Ux control without Miracles. Just different.

It's less about blade, more about TNN. As new Miracles, there's no reliable way to stop opponent's loam engine game 1. As it turned out, TNN is great against Lands and DnT, just remember your Tabernacle trigger and be aware of CJ.

[MorphBerlin]

Because over a 15 round event you get fucked by your consistency issues that bites every chalice deck in the format. The lack of brainstorm. You mull to oblivion three times and lose a couple on the draw from a turn 1 deathrite and your tourney is over because you flooded out while the brainstorm apes put back and shuffled away their extra lands with the card that should've been banned years ago.

You are so funny, calling BS players apes while all the poor T1 Chalice/Blood Moon/Griselbrand players are all foolding to inconsistency. It's so undeserveing that all these skillfull players don't win when not having their T1 bomb over 15 rounds

[Jain_Mor]

Because over a 15 round event you get fucked by your consistency issues that bites every chalice deck in the format. The lack of brainstorm. You mull to oblivion three times and lose a couple on the draw from a turn 1 deathrite and your tourney is over because you flooded out while the brainstorm apes put back and shuffled away their extra lands with the card that should've been banned years ago.

List of some often discussed popular cards and their numbers in top 16 of a possible 64:

Brainstorm: 52 (81%)
Force: 51 (80%)
Ponder: 40 (63%)
Gitaxian Probe: 19 (30%)
Preordain: 4 (6%)

DRS: 24 (38%)
Delver: 20 (31%)
Decay: 8 (13%)

Wasteland: 39 (61%)
Polluted Delta: 30 (47%)
Flooded Strand: 29 (45%)
Scalding Tarn: 27 (42%)
Misty: 14
Arid: 2
Windswept: 2
Foothills: 2
Catacombs: 2
Flats: 2
Mire: 1

So yea, those that said abrupt decay was popular just because it was a good card, not because of top miracles, and said that its numbers would stay up after the ban...

38% DRS is pretty high for a creature, but delver isn't that far behind.

Brainstorm penetration is disturbingly high for my tastes, but that's just my tastes. One blue mage decided to go rogue and only register 3 FoW with his 4 BS. They are the kind of people that don't vaccinate their kids because everyone else has vaccinated theirs.

Obviously this is just top 16, can't wait for the meta break down for day 1 and day 2 if we are lucky...

[Crimhead]

Because over a 15 round event you get fucked by your consistency issues that bites every chalice deck in the format. The lack of brainstorm.
Lands and D&T managed to do well - and Lands runs the least consistent card in the format!

If consistency were the most important thing, we'd see more Burn (the most consistent deck in all of MTG). The only thing that's important in a deck is it's match-ups (win-rates) against the other decks in the field. If a deck isn't getting results, either:
It has a poor average win-rate against the field, and/or
It not being played in high enough numbers.
Of course we can't read too much into a single event - even a large event. Like the time MUD made top8 in a GP in 2014.