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kinda
02-07-2018, 11:48 AM
The goal of the deck is to win with pattern of rebirth or natural order (because I really like these cards) but with a backup plan of winning through beats. The creatures ideally do double duty here, tks for instance protects the combo with discard/is a body for pattern/can beat for 4. Pattern is an odd card so some iffy choices like ammit eternal/altar's reap/phyrexian tower are in there right now. Suggestions/thoughts welcome!


[// 18 Creature
4 Deathrite Shaman
1 Birds of Paradise
4 Thought-Knot Seer
1 Progenitus
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Sylvan Caryatid
2 Ohran Viper
1 eternal witness
1 Varolz, the Scar-Striped
1 troll ascetic

// 7 Enchantment
4 Pattern of Rebirth
3 Sylvan Library

// 22 Land
4 Llanowar Wastes
2 Bayou
2 Forest
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Ghost Quarter
1 Phyrexian Tower
2 High Market
2 Windswept Heath
2 Ancient Tomb

// 13 Sorcery
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Thoughtseize
3 Collective Brutality
2 Green Sun's Zenith
2 Natural Order


// 15 Sideboard
// 4 Creature
SB: 1 Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
SB: 1 Elderscale Wurm
SB: 1 Terastodon

// 4 Enchantment
SB: 4 Choke

// 4 Instant
SB: 3 Abrupt Decay
SB: 2 Fatal Push

// 3 Sorcery
SB: 2 Thoughtseize
SB: 1 Natural Order

Erdvermampfa
02-07-2018, 03:59 PM
Nice deck, I think Pattern of Rebirth is a fairly underrated card. Judging the list superficially only 2 things appear questionable to me. One the one hand your deck seems to be a bit of a glass canon as it lacks the means for a come back if your opponent manages to handle the combo. I know you have Library but maybe a 1of Eternal Witness that can be tutored with GSZ would make the deck more resilient and durable. Moreover, is Probe really superior to Thoughtseize in the maindeck? I understand that it makes Therapy very good and it should probably also alleviate consistency issues but on it's own it doesn't do too much.

kinda
02-07-2018, 04:43 PM
Nice deck, I think Pattern of Rebirth is a fairly underrated card. Judging the list superficially only 2 things appear questionable to me. One the one hand your deck seems to be a bit of a glass canon as it lacks the means for a come back if your opponent manages to handle the combo. I know you have Library but maybe a 1of Eternal Witness that can be tutored with GSZ would make the deck more resilient and durable. Moreover, is Probe really superior to Thoughtseize in the maindeck? I understand that it makes Therapy very good and it should probably also alleviate consistency issues but on it's own it doesn't do too much.

Good shout, I cut the probes. -4 probe + 2 thoughtseize +1 eternal witness +1 sylvan library.

Mr. Safety
02-08-2018, 09:12 AM
Wouldn't something you can sacrifice after attaching Pattern be a better option? Like Sakura-Tribe Elder.

Dice_Box
02-08-2018, 09:26 AM
I feel like you should try and find space for at least one Recurring Nightmare.

kinda
02-08-2018, 01:52 PM
Wouldn't something you can sacrifice after attaching Pattern be a better option? Like Sakura-Tribe Elder.

Ideally...but all the cards in bg that sac themselves are bad on their own to the best of my knowledge. With Steve for instance he doesn't do anything useful until you sac him at which point you hopefully just resolved pattern. The best I could find are varolz and ammit eternal as far as sac engine critters go. They both can be turned sideways too.

@Dice: Very tempting I will test.

apple713
02-09-2018, 07:31 AM
Ideally...but all the cards in bg that sac themselves are bad on their own to the best of my knowledge. With Steve for instance he doesn't do anything useful until you sac him at which point you hopefully just resolved pattern. The best I could find are varolz and ammit eternal as far as sac engine critters go. They both can be turned sideways too.

@Dice: Very tempting I will test.



this is why pattern is just a worse version of natural order for the most part. I would increase the # of NO and decrease the patterns. Pattern is also weaker because if the creature gets killed in response to casting then ur just fucked. That doesn't happen with NO (unless the rules changed). I've tried pattern decks and naturally you include NO. I was usually happier to see NO than patter which eventually made me drop pattern all together for a stronger win con alternative. For big green targets you can check my NO Eldrazi pos in my sig. Useful info will be in the primer.

Mr. Safety
02-09-2018, 07:33 AM
I don't see Sakura-Tribe Elder as bad at all...you're taking a 3 card combo (dude, Pattern, sac outlet) and turning it into a 2 card combo (dude that sacs themselves + Pattern.) Not only that, you're playing GSZ, so you can play 1x STE and fetch it. Or he can ramp you into GSZ-ing into a bigger threat/Eternal Witness, if the fair beats plan becomes necessary.

Echelon
02-09-2018, 07:57 AM
Not trying to be a dick here, but Pattern of Rebirth is not for Legacy. It is too fragile in the face of spotremoval, which the format is rife with. You don't want your opponents to turn their Lightning Bolt/Fatal Push/Swords to Plowshares into 1 mana 2-for-1's. Legacy is a too efficient format for that to be viable.

If you plan to with w/ a green 4 mana card you should either play Elves!, where Natural Order says "I win this turn", or Nic Fit, which just drops Siege Rhinos and turns those sideways as a win-con. Can't go wrong with that.

Whitefaces
02-09-2018, 08:58 AM
Not trying to be a dick here, but Pattern of Rebirth is not for Legacy. It is too fragile in the face of spotremoval, which the format is rife with. You don't want your opponents to turn their Lightning Bolt/Fatal Push/Swords to Plowshares into 1 mana 2-for-1's. Legacy is a too efficient format for that to be viable.

If you plan to with w/ a green 4 mana card you should either play Elves!, where Natural Order says "I win this turn", or Nic Fit, which just drops Siege Rhinos and turns those sideways as a win-con. Can't go wrong with that.

He quite specifically said he wanted to play this card because he enjoys it.

Mr. Safety
02-09-2018, 09:02 AM
Not trying to be a dick here, but Pattern of Rebirth is not for Legacy. It is too fragile in the face of spotremoval, which the format is rife with. You don't want your opponents to turn their Lightning Bolt/Fatal Push/Swords to Plowshares into 1 mana 2-for-1's. Legacy is a too efficient format for that to be viable.

If you plan to with w/ a green 4 mana card you should either play Elves!, where Natural Order says "I win this turn", or Nic Fit, which just drops Siege Rhinos and turns those sideways as a win-con. Can't go wrong with that.

I was thinking that this is getting really close to Nic-Fit as well, without the fragile combo. I almost suggested Veteran Explorer, lol. I disagree slightly about it not being for Legacy though. I don't see why it couldn't be an option for a local meta-game, one that isn't as hostile. It's a fairly compact combo if all you need to dedicate to it is 4x Pattern and 6-8x creatures that combo with it (2 fatties and 4-6 sacrifice options.) I do agree that Natural Order is a much better combo option, I've even sideboarded that in Junk ages ago.

Matsu
02-09-2018, 09:14 AM
Back in the days. When I was young and Apocalypse just came out. I used to experiment a lot with Survival of the Fittest and Recurring nightmare when those cards were legal. One of my experiment was a deck without survival. I do not remember exactly, but it was super fun to play a true Rogue deck :cool:
These are the cards I remember after 15 years, probably missed with the numbers. It was working very similar to the current Nic Fit.

4 BoP
3 Wall of Blossoms
1 Spike Weaver
3 Spike feeder
3 Phyrexian Ghoul
3 Yavimaya elder
4 Academy rector
2 Spiritmonger
4 Duress
2 Recurring nightmare
2 Pernicious deed
3 Pattern of Rebirth
1 Pandemonium
3 Saprolling burst
1 Phyrexian tower
3 city of brass
3 Thran quarry and other lands.

I definitely had some removals like Swords to Plowshares / terror / vindicate just don't remember.
The deck used to stall until you can attack with a ghoul, sac some creatures preferably rector with pattern if possible so you can fetch what you need at the moment.
Pandemonium + Saprolling burst was an easy combo to establish, and you could use creatures to feed the ghoul.
Spiritmonger was the Emrakul back in the days. Shame he is not that good now. Yavimaya elder was amazing with dmg on stack. Spikes were all stars especially with recurring nightmare. You can probably figure it yourself.
Remember, No fetchlands :tongue:

Good luck on your quest.

kinda
02-10-2018, 03:14 PM
this is why pattern is just a worse version of natural order for the most part. I would increase the # of NO and decrease the patterns. Pattern is also weaker because if the creature gets killed in response to casting then ur just fucked. That doesn't happen with NO (unless the rules changed). I've tried pattern decks and naturally you include NO. I was usually happier to see NO than patter which eventually made me drop pattern all together for a stronger win con alternative. For big green targets you can check my NO Eldrazi pos in my sig. Useful info will be in the primer.

There are plusses and minuses for both I think. It's true that they can't kill the creature in response to NO but this is because you already sac'd it. So if your natural order runs into spell pierce or flusterstorm it's a 2 for 1...but with pattern it's just a 1 for 1. The discard and hexproof critters are my answer to the removal problem right now but not sure if it's enough yet. TNN and sylvan caryatid seem like the best pattern targets to me. NO obviously can't get eldrazi either and ruric thar/elderscale wurm aren't good enough md I think (though in some matches those two just read you win).

@ safety it's a good point I should probably have a 1 or 2 cc gsz target that sacs himself. Steve might be it but I'll run a search.

@matsu intesting list! Why not fetches?

I'll test this on Tuesday and see how it goes.

kinda
02-13-2018, 08:06 PM
Went 2-1-1 tonight to prize! Beat miracles and burn, drew against another miracles, and lost to dredge. I played the list in the first post -1 ancient tomb -1 bayou +1 overgrown tomb +1 ghost quarter due to card availability. Not playing any gy hate was bad but otherwise I was happy with the deck...plus very fun! Gsz into eternal witness and library make the deck quite resilient.

However, I felt like the deck was top heavy and delver would be tough so I am proposing lowering the curve maindeck next week. Maybe this:


4 Deathrite Shaman
3 Thought-Knot Seer
1 Progenitus
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Sylvan Caryatid
1 eternal witness
1 Varolz, the Scar-Striped
3 death's shadow

4 Pattern of Rebirth
3 Sylvan Library

4 Llanowar Wastes
2 Overgrown Tomb
2 Forest
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Ghost Quarter
1 Phyrexian Tower
2 High Market
2 Windswept Heath

4 Cabal Therapy
4 gitaxian probe
2 Thoughtseize
3 Collective Brutality
2 Green Sun's Zenith
2 Berserk

SB:
SB: 1 Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
SB: 1 Elderscale Wurm
SB: 4 Choke
SB: 3 Abrupt Decay
SB: 3 Leyline of the void
SB: 3 Natural Order

Poron
02-20-2018, 12:58 PM
Why TKS? Green creatures are very sinergic here (N.O. and GSZ).

I would add a Xenagos, God.
That + Emrakul is Instant win with PoR or Defense of the Hearth (which should be totally run here with some Forbidden Orchard)

Matsu
02-20-2018, 01:19 PM
...

@matsu intesting list! Why not fetches?

...

Sorry for the late response. I used this list when the fetchlands were not existing. They were printed in Onslought.
So the list is approx 15 years old. That is why there are some strange cards in it.

kinda
02-20-2018, 08:45 PM
I started off 2-1 tonight beating food chain and lands with a loss to dragon stompy. Round 4 I was on stream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/231061107 .

I still think thought-knot seer is good but since I don't have ancient tombs yet I cut them and ran death's shadow + berserk this week (I don't have goyf either). TKS is sweet turn 2...not so much turn 4 though and I think I would slot them in for the thoughtseizes in the list below. Dragon stompy just seems like a bad matchup. I won game 1 by sac'ing a drs with a pattern attached to natural order to get progenitus and emrakul. Then next turn my library found me decay for his bridge. Game 2 though he had turn 1 and turn 3 goblin rabblemasters on the play. G3 I mulled and got blood moon'd. The stream for round 4 is in the link above.

@Poron: TKS/Death's shadow are good with the aggro plan and TKS protects himself so you can pattern. Also the only good green aggro creature really I think I could play is goyf but I don't have any. I would like to find room for a reclamation sage I think. Varolz is a sac outlet for pattern and can scavenge a death's shadow to become a 15/15 so he's a 1 of gsz target in the list. I do like defense of the heart! Might put some in the sb. Xenagos is interesting...but putting a pattern on a critter and then waiting for their end of turn to sac it to high market/phyrexian tower/varolz/decaying it gives emrakul pseudo haste (which is relevant vs jace)


4 Deathrite Shaman
3 death's shadow
1 Progenitus
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Sylvan Caryatid
1 eternal witness
1 Varolz, the Scar-Striped

4 Pattern of Rebirth
3 Sylvan Library

2 Overgrown Tomb
4 Llanowar Wastes
2 Bayou
2 Forest
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Ghost Quarter
1 Phyrexian Tower
2 High Market
2 Windswept Heath

4 Cabal Therapy
3 Thoughtseize
3 Collective Brutality
2 berserk
2 Green Sun's Zenith
2 Natural Order
2 abrupt decay

SB: 1 Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
SB: 1 Elderscale Wurm
SB: 1 Terastodon
SB: 4 Choke
SB: 1 Abrupt Decay
SB: 1 carpet of flowers
SB: 1 Thoughtseize
SB: 1 Natural Order
SB: 4 Leyline of the Void

Matsu
02-21-2018, 04:13 AM
I saw your matches, yesterday.
It was entertaining, I think you should skip Death's Shadow and Overgrown Tomb.
You should try to keep a high life total.
Wall of blossoms might be good to accelerate your draws and have a look at diabolic intent/diabolic edict/innocent blood. Any token producing planeswalker will be useful Garruk relentless/ nissa voice of zendikar. Because you are on GB I will suggest Hymn to tourach instead of Thoughtseize.
Flip liliana is a nice spice to the deck :cool:

kinda
02-21-2018, 03:56 PM
I saw your matches, yesterday.
It was entertaining, I think you should skip Death's Shadow and Overgrown Tomb.
You should try to keep a high life total.
Wall of blossoms might be good to accelerate your draws and have a look at diabolic intent/diabolic edict/innocent blood. Any token producing planeswalker will be useful Garruk relentless/ nissa voice of zendikar. Because you are on GB I will suggest Hymn to tourach instead of Thoughtseize.
Flip liliana is a nice spice to the deck :cool:

Oh nice, at dark sphere or on the stream? Thanks for the ideas!

Matsu
02-22-2018, 04:04 AM
Oh nice, at dark sphere or on the stream? Thanks for the ideas!

On stream, after putting kids to bed, same timezone.

kinda
02-27-2018, 07:52 PM
I went 2-2 again tonight (same list as post 17) but won my feature match (skip to 2 hours 6 minutes): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/233438677 . My first loss was miracles and g3 I mulled to 5 and kept garbage instead of mulling to 4 and lost. I never saw library in the 3 games sadly. G1 though I realized that emrakul and progenitus are both bad vs miracles. Not sure if there is any good natural order or even pattern target vs them? Griselbrand, Ruric Thar, and Iona came to mind but not sure if there is something better? My other loss was grixis delver and it was bad...I did a lot better in casual testing vs grixis delver. I'm thinking of adding the 4th library and moving death's shadow to the board. Will be tinkering...

Matsu
02-28-2018, 04:03 AM
I saw you match against Grixis, I think, the commentary was not very good they had issues to identify cards.
If you need a beefy creature switch Shadow to Tarmogoyf. Against any blue deck you only need 3 maybe 4 choke if you feel really oppressed and some Abrupt decay should be sufficient. Some Diabolic edict might be great to kill big guys or trigger Pattern of rebirth.

I will suggest dropping Carpet of Flowers. It did not work for me, it helped accelerate, but my opponents could play everything.

Have a look a Thrun, to troll people and Titania because you play Ghost Quarter and Terastadon.

Progenitus might be another Emrakul or Blightsteel Colossus.

Unfortunately against Miracles you need Choke, Thragtusk, Man Lands (ex. Treetop), token producing planeswalker Garruk Relentless, Nissa vital force/Vastwood Seer/maybe Voice of Zendikar or Liliana, last hope and Ob Nix and luck. You will both struggle against Terminus and Jace. Unless you manage to discard a Terminus and Surgical Extraction it.

Jakobian1010
03-10-2018, 05:55 PM
He needs progenitus as a natural order target, remember natural order only gets a green creature.

Carpet of flowers is strong in this deck I think.

kinda
03-11-2018, 03:51 PM
Yeah I think miracles is too tough to worry about. Thrun is a good shout though. I need some green card in the md as long as I keep natural order. It might be terrastodon though. Carpet is really just for delver but it's excellent there.

kinda
05-29-2018, 06:22 PM
I've been playing 5 colour reanimator on Tuesday for a while now and after a couple 3-1 results I decided last Thursday to dust off pattern for pub fun legacy. I played a similar list to before but with probe/elvish spirit guide to no success. So today I decided to go another direction and put in a reanimate package. Went 2-2...beat br reanimator and aluren while losing to burn and bug deaths shadow. Ancient tomb was very questionable...I did win a game by berserking a 15/15 Varolz. Entomb can grab a reanimate target, or a deaths shadow to make Varolz big, or a therapy to sac a pattern creature to.

4 entomb
4 reanimate
3 deaths shadow
2 Varolz
1 griselbrand
1 grave titan
4 pattern of rebirth
2 gsz
1 drs
1 xantid swarm
1 dryad arbor
4 cabal therapy
2 collective brutality
2 berserk
2 abrupt decay
2 sylvan library

4 dark ritual
4 Ancient Tomb
2 overgrown tomb
4 swamp
1 Forest
3 Llanowar Wastes
1 phyrexian tower
6 fetches

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 thoughtseize
1 carpet of flowers
1 terrastodon
3 abyssal persecutor
1 tombstalker
1 abrupt decay

kinda
08-27-2018, 02:41 PM
Trying something similar to my original list tomorrow.

4 pattern of rebirth
1 emrakul
1 terrastodon
4 Thought-Knot Seer
3 kalonian hydra
4 devoted druid
3 summoning trap
4 birds of paradise
2 gsz
1 quillspike
1 dryad arbor
3 Trinisphere
3 collective brutality
2 abrupt decay
2 sylvan library

4 Ancient Tomb
2 high market
1 eldrazi temple
2 overgrown tomb
5 Forest
4 Llanowar Wastes
1 phyrexian tower
3 verdant catacombs

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 thoughtseize
1 carpet of flowers
2 engineered plague
3 choke
1 abrupt decay

hermit_druid
08-28-2018, 10:06 AM
Trying something similar to my original list tomorrow.

4 pattern of rebirth
1 emrakul
1 terrastodon
4 Thought-Knot Seer
3 kalonian hydra
4 devoted druid
3 summoning trap
4 birds of paradise
2 gsz
1 quillspike
1 dryad arbor
3 Trinisphere
3 collective brutality
2 abrupt decay
2 sylvan library

4 Ancient Tomb
2 high market
1 eldrazi temple
2 overgrown tomb
5 Forest
4 Llanowar Wastes
1 phyrexian tower
3 verdant catacombs

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 thoughtseize
1 carpet of flowers
2 engineered plague
3 choke
1 abrupt decay

The numbers of the cards in this deck are very exciting.. 2 gsz, 3 kalonian hydra, 3 summoning trap (main? Most of the decks don't play counters at the moment, storm, dnt, elves, eldrazi, dragon stompy, aggro loam, lands... seems like an inconsistent card with only three big threats in the deck - most control decks can answer hydra/tks with swords, jace, strix).

That said - I think the idea is very exciting! I think I'll play this at my next local tbh. Love all the potentials for sacrifice synergies with explorer and diabolic intent with the backup combo. Might be better to get infinite mana with druid and kill with ballista? As opposed to quillspike. It is nice that you can green sun's for the whole combo at the moment though. Just would be good to be able to kill through bridge or something, though we do have decays. I definitely think the therapy/explorer package is worth playing. I've added a wastes to get to play tks. I don't think trinisphere works well in the veteran version of the deck (you give them basics lol). LOVE THE CARYATID PATTERN SYNERGY!

Personally I'd look at playing -

4 Veteran Explorer
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Eternal Witness
1 Devoted Druid
2 Sylvan Caryatid
1 Quillspike
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Thought-Knot Seer

4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Pattern of Rebirth
2 Diabolic Intent
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Collective Brutality
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Sylvan Library

1 Dryad Arbor
4 Ancient Tomb
1 High Market
1 Phyrexian Tower
2 Bayou
5 Forest
1 Swamp
1 Wastes
4 Llanowar Wastes
4 Verdant Catacombs

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Thoughtseize
2 Carpet of Flowers
2 Toxic Deluge
3 Choke

Also I don't think this deck is aggro, is the name ironic haha lol

kinda
08-28-2018, 06:46 PM
I went 3-1 tonight with the last list I posted (moved the summoning traps to the sb and 3 thoughtseize md)! I beat death and taxes, aluren, and bizarro stormy piloted by "hermit druid" in the above post :tongue:. Troll account name was way too obvious...looking forward to lending you the pieces so you can play the version you posted next week. Lost to infect but still won a game. Suggestions on improvements?

Edit: don't forget summoning trap works against chalice too.

hermit_druid
08-29-2018, 08:53 AM
I went 3-1 tonight with the last list I posted (moved the summoning traps to the sb and 3 thoughtseize md)! I beat death and taxes, aluren, and bizarro stormy piloted by "hermit druid" in the above post :tongue:. Troll account name was way too obvious...looking forward to lending you the pieces so you can play the version you posted next week. Lost to infect but still won a game. Suggestions on improvements?

Edit: don't forget summoning trap works against chalice too.

Hm I'm not sure what you're talking about, my locals are on Thursdays, but tomorrow I'll play the following!

4 Veteran Explorer
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Eternal Witness
2 Tireless Tracker
1 Sylvan Caryatid
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Thought-Knot Seer

4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Pattern of Rebirth
2 Diabolic Intent
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Collective Brutality
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Sylvan Library

1 Dryad Arbor
4 Ancient Tomb
1 High Market
1 Phyrexian Tower
2 Bayou
5 Forest
1 Swamp
1 Wastes
4 Llanowar Wastes
4 Verdant Catacombs

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Thoughtseize
2 Carpet of Flowers
2 Toxic Deluge
3 Choke

After some further rumination, I decided that Druid/Quillspike was too weak and that I'd prefer to have more value/utility oriented creatures in those spots to maximise Green Sun's Zenith.

Whitefaces
08-29-2018, 10:07 AM
Since you're playing Leylines in the sideboard, have you considered Helm of Obedience?

square_two
08-29-2018, 11:44 AM
Hm I'm not sure what you're talking about, my locals are on Thursdays, but tomorrow I'll play the following!

...list...

After some further rumination, I decided that Druid/Quillspike was too weak and that I'd prefer to have more value/utility oriented creatures in those spots to maximise Green Sun's Zenith.

I'd suggest a 2nd Tower instead of High Market if you have one. Sakura-Tribe Elder? Accelerates to 4 mana or can be a stand-alone sacrifice creature.

This is basically just a nic fit variant, there was a user in that thread recently talking about Quirion Ranger as a surprising early mana accelerant if you have a list that wants to utilize Dryad Arbor. Not sure if there have been other Pattern talks and ideas posted in that thread.

kinda
08-29-2018, 01:20 PM
Hm I'm not sure what you're talking about, my locals are on Thursdays, but tomorrow I'll play the following!

Touche! I'm looking forward to seeing the tournament report.

I don't suggest two tireless tracker. You'll be able to generate tons of mana and want a fatty which can win on its own you can gsz for. I recommend kalonian hydra but titania protector of argoth is more conventional (better). You can also pattern for it if you draw emrakul but don't have collective brutality.

@whitefaces: good shout!

hermit_druid
09-04-2018, 10:00 AM
Touche! I'm looking forward to seeing the tournament report.

I don't suggest two tireless tracker. You'll be able to generate tons of mana and want a fatty which can win on its own you can gsz for. I recommend kalonian hydra but titania protector of argoth is more conventional (better). You can also pattern for it if you draw emrakul but don't have collective brutality.

@whitefaces: good shout!

Have you tried playing Sakura Tribe Elders? Seems nice with Pattern. Removes the 3 card combo element.

kinda
09-04-2018, 05:34 PM
Have you tried playing Sakura Tribe Elders? Seems nice with Pattern. Removes the 3 card combo element.

Devoted druid is just better right?

hofzge
09-06-2018, 04:22 AM
Devoted druid is just better right?

Not really - Druid is summoning sick to sac and the Tribe elder can with 6 Mana be enchanted and used right away to combo. Other than that rather exotic case the druid is probably better.

kinda
10-30-2018, 07:06 PM
Dusted this off tonight and went 3-0! Beat grixis delver, grixis control, and shardless bug.


4 Veteran Explorer
1 Scute mob
1 Sylvan Caryatid
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 wreck sage
1 xantid swarm
2 kalonian hydra
1 champion of rhonas
1 worldspine wurm
1 terrastodon
1 progenitus

4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Pattern of Rebirth
3 natural order
1 Diabolic Intent
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Collective Brutality
2 innocent blood
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Sylvan Library

1 Dryad Arbor
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 overgrown tomb
7 Forest
4 Swamp
1 Llanowar Wastes
3 Verdant Catacombs
3 marsh flats

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Thoughtseize
4 engineered plague
1 terrastodon
1 ruric thar
1 elderscale wurm