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Ace/Homebrew
02-26-2018, 01:02 PM
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Imperial Recruiter reprinted at mythic. Does anyone care? Would have been cool news pre-Top banning...

Otherwise:
- Blood Moon (R)
- Chalice of the Void (M)
- Thalia, Guardian of Thraben (R)

Undomian
02-26-2018, 01:11 PM
Chalice at mythic is a joke. There's no way that's there because of any "limited environment concerns."

PirateKing
02-26-2018, 01:17 PM
I thought they gave up the ghost on Mythic Rarity meaning anything with Lotus Cobra.
Any shock at rarity printings should be feigned for effect only.

H
02-26-2018, 01:22 PM
Imperial Recruiter reprinted at mythic. Does anyone care? Would have been cool news pre-Top banning...

I do. That is one of the few cards I don't own and occasionally do want to play.

Kap'n Cook
02-26-2018, 01:52 PM
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Imperial Recruiter reprinted at mythic. Does anyone care? Would have been cool news pre-Top banning...


Didn't know he was recruiting Chinese Dragons for a parade. I'm glad that the photoshop art cleared up that mystery for me

Dr_D
02-26-2018, 01:53 PM
Good magic art is long dead.

Dice_Box
02-26-2018, 02:05 PM
Recruiter was needed 3 years ago.

Lemnear
02-26-2018, 02:14 PM
Recruiter was needed 3 years ago.

Isn't that the usual timespan WotC needs to react to anything? See: SDT ban

Ephemeron
02-26-2018, 02:43 PM
I hate the newest card frames and the holo stamp, but I feel like the foil Blood Moon from this set might end up the pimpest version. 4 word textbox plus the The Dark moon watermark is pretty badass.

Phoenix Ignition
02-26-2018, 03:27 PM
Imperial Recruiter reprinted at mythic. Does anyone care? Would have been cool news pre-Top banning...


Me! I kind of want one for my cube but never wanted to pay that much for it.

Barook
02-26-2018, 04:02 PM
Card choices so far seem like a mixed bag.


I hate the newest card frames and the holo stamp, but I feel like the foil Blood Moon from this set might end up the pimpest version. 4 word textbox plus the The Dark moon watermark is pretty badass.
It really does look great.


Recruiter was needed 3 years ago.
Both the SDT ban hurting Painter and the printing of Recruiter of the Guard lowered the demand quite a bit.

Darkenslight
02-27-2018, 07:21 AM
https://i.imgur.com/goj1okA.png

Should be nice in foil.

Undomian
02-27-2018, 08:41 AM
That Doomsday looks really cool, very "old magic"

easysantiago
02-27-2018, 08:47 AM
https://i.imgur.com/goj1okA.png

Should be nice in foil.

Especially when it starts bending and curling right out of the pack.

thecrav
02-27-2018, 09:11 AM
I thought they gave up the ghost on Mythic Rarity meaning anything with Lotus Cobra.
Any shock at rarity printings should be feigned for effect only.

Mythic Rarity vis-a-vis Vorthos: The idea that a wizard is more likely to know a spell that kills every living thing (https://scryfall.com/card/zen/9) than they are to find a snake near some lotuses.

kombatkiwi
02-27-2018, 09:15 AM
That Doomsday looks really cool, very "old magic"

Agreed, looks sick, but the original is pretty cool as well
maybe one day it will even be playable :/

Mr. Safety
02-27-2018, 09:54 AM
Undead Gladiator spoiled, this time at uncommon. Sorry I don't have new art to post, saw it on Facebook.

procobrito
02-27-2018, 10:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/goj1okA.png

Should be nice in foil.

The ball in the top is a back view of a Chaos Orb puking on the guy's head?

Nice

Ace/Homebrew
02-27-2018, 11:20 AM
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Also:
- Protean Hulk
- Vendilion Clique
- Magus of the Wheel
- Armageddon

Undomian
02-27-2018, 11:21 AM
Port at rare is nice.

easysantiago
02-27-2018, 11:23 AM
Port at rare is nice.

Agreed.

Aside from grabbing singles, I actually might buy a pack for the first time in years.

PirateKing
02-27-2018, 11:28 AM
Flash Hulk in a draft format? Does this mean we'll get Disciple of the Vault and Ornithopter as well? That would be living the dream.

Also yay Port and Bridge, the cards I don't have playsets of.

Mr. Safety
02-27-2018, 11:40 AM
Nice, I need to get more Bridges. Port reprint at rare is VERY good news for the legacy crowd.

Chronatog
02-27-2018, 12:15 PM
Also:
- Protean Hulk


Also Flash. It's nice of WotC to reprint banned and restricted cards; makes a lot of sense - you print cool cards, but don't need to ban them immediately. Why not to introduce a new set "Banned to be Restricted"? :/

https://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/avatars/203/480/636553429463409448.png

kombatkiwi
02-27-2018, 01:13 PM
The ball in the top is a back view of a Chaos Orb puking on the guy's head?

Nice

Can't unsee


Port reprint at rare is VERY good news for the legacy crowd.

It's nice that they are reprinting what they are able but as long as the reserved list exists it's not very important in the grand scheme of things

mistercakes
02-27-2018, 01:58 PM
If you're still finding a way to complain, you'll never be happy.

ParkerLewis
02-27-2018, 02:12 PM
If you're still finding a way to complain, you'll never be happy.

Barook
02-27-2018, 07:34 PM
The Port reprint makes me wonder if we get a Wasteland reprint as well. That would fantastic for D&T.

hymnyou
02-27-2018, 09:21 PM
Didn't know he was recruiting Chinese Dragons for a parade. I'm glad that the photoshop art cleared up that mystery for me

Bump

kombatkiwi
02-27-2018, 09:46 PM
If you're still finding a way to complain, you'll never be happy.

I'm not saying the Port reprint is bad, I'm saying "oh wow this is great for legacy" is a myopic response.
I thought I made it pretty clear that deleting the RL would make me happy...

Dice_Box
02-27-2018, 09:46 PM
The Port reprint makes me wonder if we get a Wasteland reprint as well. That would fantastic for D&T.

That happened last year.

Nouille
02-28-2018, 05:45 AM
I'm not saying the Port reprint is bad, I'm saying "oh wow this is great for legacy" is a myopic response.
I thought I made it pretty clear that deleting the RL would make me happy...

Deleting the RL is a forever debate, and be sure that even if some people will by happy about it, many others will legitimately complain about the money they will loose. There were a dedicated thread about it, some time ago.
___

I'm quite satisfied with the reprints of Masters 25 so far. Bloodmoon with the edition watermark is neat. But, the art of recruiter is... meh

PirateKing
02-28-2018, 08:04 AM
I wonder what's the dividing line on flavor text for these cards.
On one hand we get the original sparse minimalism that is 3 & 4 word text boxes for Armageddon and Counterspell and Blood Moon, but them something iconic like Lightning Bolt gets filled to the brim with text. That text was amazing for the M10 printing as a nod to Lightning Bolt returning to standard after years and years of Shock, but now it's the default flavor text, which muddies it's significance. This will be the first printing of Brainstorm without flavor text, so I don't see why Lightning Bolt got the core set treatment.

Megadeus
02-28-2018, 09:19 AM
Chalice at mythic because of price and port at rare seems strange. I'm so confused as to what qualifies a card as mythic these days

ReAnimator
02-28-2018, 09:30 AM
I wonder what's the dividing line on flavor text for these cards.
On one hand we get the original sparse minimalism that is 3 & 4 word text boxes for Armageddon and Counterspell and Blood Moon, but them something iconic like Lightning Bolt gets filled to the brim with text. That text was amazing for the M10 printing as a nod to Lightning Bolt returning to standard after years and years of Shock, but now it's the default flavor text, which muddies it's significance. This will be the first printing of Brainstorm without flavor text, so I don't see why Lightning Bolt got the core set treatment.


It probably has to do with the fact that lightning bolt already has lots of no flavour printings. I agree with you it would have been nice here to better fit in with the other old iconic cards, and to let that watermark shine.

morgan_coke
02-28-2018, 11:00 AM
Chalice at mythic because of price and port at rare seems strange. I'm so confused as to what qualifies a card as mythic these days

How well it will push packs mostly.

H
02-28-2018, 12:53 PM
How well it will push packs mostly.

Did you really think there was ever any other reason why Mythic Rarity exists though?

PirateKing
02-28-2018, 01:24 PM
Did you really think there was ever any other reason why Mythic Rarity exists though?

Again...
https://media.giphy.com/media/AaQYP9zh24UFi/giphy.gif

Moving on though, on top of all the value, this set is looking really fun to draft; there's no forced Kamigawa dragon cycle, or forced cycles of anything, really. If you count Brainstorm as the spiritual inheritor to the blue Boon, then they could reprint Healing Salve. I would be okay with that. But everything seems purposeful and justified to draft and that has me uncharacteristically excited.

Mr. Safety
02-28-2018, 02:35 PM
Enemy filter lands were spoiled (Cascade Bluffs etc.) which is really nice to see. Did they intentionally make Iconic suck ass so this set would seem so great?

Lord Seth
02-28-2018, 09:25 PM
Did you really think there was ever any other reason why Mythic Rarity exists though?Planeswalkers being overpowered in Limited was probably a factor.

EDIT: I just noticed that Relentless Rats has been downshifted to Common. I wonder how good it might be in Limited as a result of that.

Dice_Box
02-28-2018, 11:23 PM
Planeswalkers being overpowered in Limited was probably a factor.

EDIT: I just noticed that Relentless Rats has been downshifted to Common. I wonder how good it might be in Limited as a result of that.
More interested in Pauper.

Lord Seth
03-01-2018, 12:04 AM
More interested in Pauper.Oh, wow. I never even thought about Pauper. This could be a big gamechanger for Monoblack Devotion or even create its own archetype.

Zllig
03-01-2018, 02:10 AM
"You thought that this reprint set of iconic cards would be a good time to reprint Crucible of Worlds, the only good card to come out of the GDS and is extremely expensive? Well, here is a Coalition Relic for your cube instead." - Wizards, probably

mistercakes
03-01-2018, 02:24 AM
Engineered explosives is pretty good. Lantern just won. Also, Relentless Rats....

Barook
03-01-2018, 08:46 AM
Engineered explosives is pretty good. Lantern just won. Also, Relentless Rats....
Cranial Plating, Magma Jet, Night's Whisper, Serum Visions, Staff of Domination and Trinket Mage are also from FD5. There are quite a few cards they could have included.

thecrav
03-01-2018, 08:55 AM
A silver set symbol on Lightning Bolt is hate speech.

Di
03-01-2018, 11:22 AM
What exactly does Coalition Relic have to do with Fifth Dawn?

Ephemeron
03-01-2018, 11:38 AM
What exactly does Coalition Relic have to do with Fifth Dawn?

People like making guesses as to what cards will be included based on the spoiled cards number in the set. In this case, Chalice of the Void (#222) and Ensnaring Bridge (#224) had already been spoiled, so there must be some sort of artifact that fits alphabetically between the two. People were clearly hoping that card was Crucible of Words to be Fifth Dawn's representation in the set, and are disappointed they got Coalition Relic (since now it's guaranteed Crucible will not be in the set).

Darkenslight
03-01-2018, 11:42 AM
What exactly does Coalition Relic have to do with Fifth Dawn?

People were expecting Crucible, rather than Relic.

morgan_coke
03-01-2018, 02:52 PM
The new art for Renewed Faith is amazing.

Still not sure why they just refuse to reprint Slide for Modern.

Honestly, I think they should do a reprint set or just hit it up at the next B&R and "legalize" a bunch of stuff that they clearly won't ever print in Standard but that would really help out Modern a ton, like Slide, Counterspell, Bidding, the Wishes, etc.

kirkusjones
03-01-2018, 05:11 PM
The new art for Renewed Faith is amazing.

Still not sure why they just refuse to reprint Slide for Modern.

Honestly, I think they should do a reprint set or just hit it up at the next B&R and "legalize" a bunch of stuff that they clearly won't ever print in Standard but that would really help out Modern a ton, like Slide, Counterspell, Bidding, the Wishes, etc.

I've been tinkering with some hypothetical slide lists recently with this in mind. There is nothing that would get me to jump into Modern faster than being able to play a slide pile again.

#slidindirty4modern

Ephemeron
03-01-2018, 06:44 PM
I know reddit is the gaping asshole of the internet, but the tone of discussion there on most of these cards is really irritating. This set honestly looks really cool and instead it's just a bunch of children mewling that their pet EDH card wasn't reprinted. I don't need to hear snide remarks about Accumulated Knowledge (which I am fucking STOKED to play again) from people who were still trying to escape their daddy's nutsack back when Dave Williams was curving them at Worlds.

For chrissake, you're getting Port, Jace, Imperial Recruiter, and a bunch of other dope cards, some of which are available in foil for the first time. Set is good. Get off my lawn.

Vissah
03-01-2018, 09:52 PM
I know reddit is the gaping asshole of the internet, but the tone of discussion there on most of these cards is really irritating. This set honestly looks really cool and instead it's just a bunch of children mewling that their pet EDH card wasn't reprinted. I don't need to hear snide remarks about Accumulated Knowledge (which I am fucking STOKED to play again) from people who were still trying to escape their daddy's nutsack back when Dave Williams was curving them at Worlds.

For chrissake, you're getting Port, Jace, Imperial Recruiter, and a bunch of other dope cards, some of which are available in foil for the first time. Set is good. Get off my lawn.



You said it all mate.
It`s Reddit so what do you expect of them? :D

Echelon
03-02-2018, 01:24 AM
No, no, if we're not getting Veteran Explorer it's all shit :laugh:

I want that thing in foil dammit, lol.

kombatkiwi
03-02-2018, 11:34 AM
Diabolic Edict with new art is cool
Vhati being thrown overboard seems a bit silly after a while

H
03-02-2018, 01:02 PM
Diabolic Edict with new art is cool
Vhati being thrown overboard seems a bit silly after a while

Indeed, although it's not exactly "new," it was used in Duels of the Planeswalkers, just new to print now.

ReAnimator
03-02-2018, 01:15 PM
As someone who has been playing this game for 24 years, all the nostalgia notes should hit for me, but over all this collection feels a little flat for me.

Some of the reprints were obviously great for the secondary market and i applaud that, but over all i feel they could have hit way more of the flavour and nostalgia. When i look at this set i don't get a real feel for a trip down memory lane or like a medium powered cube experience of magics greatest hits from all eras, this doesn't come close.

Instead of using all the newer set slots for commons and such i wish they would have gone with more of the commons and uncommons that defined magics current and past competitive and casual landscapes.

This just feels like a generic Masters set, not a celebration of 25 years of magic, and it really wouldn't have been hard for them to do that properly.

mistercakes
03-02-2018, 01:18 PM
Could you list some of those cards?

I thought there was some good ones that representing competitive play over the years.

morgan_coke
03-02-2018, 01:46 PM
OG Art Serra Angel would have done a ton for me, and I suspect a lot of other people as well.

It's funny seeing some stuff like Ghost Ship and remembering that once upon a time Blue got the worst creatures because it got the best spells. Now it just gets the best of everything, because lol nothing matters.

Chronatog
03-02-2018, 02:13 PM
As someone who has been playing this game for 24 years, all the nostalgia notes should hit for me, but over all this collection feels a little flat for me.

Some of the reprints were obviously great for the secondary market and i applaud that, but over all i feel they could have hit way more of the flavour and nostalgia. When i look at this set i don't get a real feel for a trip down memory lane or like a medium powered cube experience of magics greatest hits from all eras, this doesn't come close.

Instead of using all the newer set slots for commons and such i wish they would have gone with more of the commons and uncommons that defined magics current and past competitive and casual landscapes.

This just feels like a generic Masters set, not a celebration of 25 years of magic, and it really wouldn't have been hard for them to do that properly.

From my perspective, and I started playing in the late 90s, what really kills nostalgia is the new art on many cards. For instance, Giant Growth, Savanna Lions, Pyroclasm, Swords to Plowshares, Disenchant, Arcane Denial, just to name a few. I guess this is because back then the artists retained artwork copyright and Wizards doesn't want to pay anything now. And Photoshop made aberrations are cheap to buy. Borders are also wrong and the company uses this new asymmetrical confusion.

I understand that it is not easy to make a set that is a homage to the 25 year history of the game and still playable in limited, but I completely agree that these is no any special feel about this set other than "wow, there are some money cards there!" Sad.

Teluin
03-02-2018, 02:17 PM
I don't buy new cards, but I think it would have been cool had they reprinted the old cards in the old borders etc but did the watermark. They did it prior and this is supposed to be a special set.

H
03-02-2018, 04:11 PM
For instance, Giant Growth, Savanna Lions, Pyroclasm, Swords to Plowshares, Disenchant, Arcane Denial, just to name a few. I guess this is because back then the artists retained artwork copyright and Wizards doesn't want to pay anything now.

I think it might go a bit further, I don't think they can actually use any of that art any more, although I am really not sure exactly why...

But it sad that Dark Ritual, which might be the card with the best array of art available across printings, seems to only now be able to be printed with (arguably) one of the weakest pieces ever made for it.

Dice_Box
03-02-2018, 04:51 PM
When I think of good old art I think of the Howling Hymn. That's lost.

When I think of good art these days I think of things like Descendants' Path. The new Renewed Faith is stunning too. There are jems in the new style.

ReAnimator
03-02-2018, 04:52 PM
Could you list some of those cards?

I thought there was some good ones that representing competitive play over the years.

ABU: Demonic Tutor would have been nice, since it's crazy overdue for a reprint especially foil. I think they did a good job for the most part with ABU.
Mana Vault would have been nice too, Sol Ring.

Arabian Nights (that only got one card for some reason) Serendib Djinn, Ehrnam or Kird Ape.

Odyssey Block: Psychotog, CABAL COFFERS (which is like a $30 card now) Wild Mongrel, Genesis, Chainers Edict, Wake

To name a few small examples (could do this with like every set)


Overall, where are the planes walkers?

Where is anything to do with the weatherlight?

Karn?

Why did we get more Enchantment Creature/artifacts than we did Equipment? Like that's one block vs 15 years of a card sub type/mechanic. Jitte? War Hammer? Anything?

Why did we just get a pendelhaven at a rare when they just released a judge foil for it?

Cool lands are the centerpiece of most competitive play, and we get Filters as a cycle? Like i'm glad they got reprinted but not for what's supposed to be a celebration of 25 years.

Innistrad was a super popular and iconic set, there are zombies and vampires werewolves ghosts, angels, demons, a ton of influential cards oozing with flavour that defined it, and we get a tree. A fucking TREE?!?!? you had all those options and you went with a mythic tree, from the horror themed world. Name me 100 cards that make you think of innistrad, and i guarantee you that a tree was not in there. Heck if you just wanted garbage mythics from there, why not the Helvault? It least that was important to the story and flavour.

I could literally write a million more points on all of this, but i'm at work.

Barook
03-02-2018, 07:21 PM
Overall, where are the planes walkers?
Did you really think the whole "Jacetice League" was a joke? It's Jace or nothing. But you're right, there are suprisingly few references to Urza and the whole Weatherlight/Invasion saga.

Tree as Redemption as Innistrad representative was fucking stupid. Taking a mythic slot just adds injury to the insult. Card choices in general were all over the place. They added some good money cards (and at 10 fucking dollars, they better had to - Iconic Masters was a complete disaster sales-wise; rumor has it they only sold 9% compared to the MM17), but alot of other stuff is rather questionable.

Fox
03-02-2018, 08:29 PM
Finally Stangg Twin token, at long last.

kombatkiwi
03-03-2018, 07:45 AM
When I think of good old art I think of the Howling Hymn. That's lost.

Is that not just the 3 wolf moon shirt in cardboard form?

ZackStella
03-03-2018, 09:26 AM
From my perspective, and I started playing in the late 90s, what really kills nostalgia is the new art on many cards. For instance, Giant Growth, Savanna Lions, Pyroclasm, Swords to Plowshares, Disenchant, Arcane Denial, just to name a few. I guess this is because back then the artists retained artwork copyright and Wizards doesn't want to pay anything now. And Photoshop made aberrations are cheap to buy. Borders are also wrong and the company uses this new asymmetrical confusion.

Just have to pop in to clarify something here:

Commissions go for the same rate regardless of if they're traditionally or digitally painted.

Watersaw
03-03-2018, 01:21 PM
Finally Stangg Twin token, at long last.

https://media.wizards.com/2018/a25/en_6IgrqKnNQk.png
There's a really good joke here.

procobrito
03-03-2018, 01:26 PM
That tree of Innistrad was probably the biggest miss on the entire set, lol.

About arts, new Esnaring Bridge os discusting with that ugly 3d effect.

Doomsday is probably the best hit of new art that I saw, ever. Is the first black card that looks like black cards from 90s in tha last years.

The set looks fun, way more good commons and uncommons than standard Masters, not that great mythics and rares as MM17 or original MM. But for draft, commons and uncommons are way more important than rares.

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Lord Seth
03-03-2018, 02:56 PM
Finally Stangg Twin token, at long last.On that topic, it annoys me they didn't reprint Urza's Factory for this reason. They never made an Assembly Worker token for it when it was originally printed, and this would have been an opportunity for it. True, the card's worth practically nothing, but neither is Zoetic Cavern (which is the slot I was hoping the Factory would be in).


Did you really think the whole "Jacetice League" was a joke? It's Jace or nothing. But you're right, there are suprisingly few references to Urza and the whole Weatherlight/Invasion saga.

Tree as Redemption as Innistrad representative was fucking stupid. Taking a mythic slot just adds injury to the insult. Card choices in general were all over the place. They added some good money cards (and at 10 fucking dollars, they better had to - Iconic Masters was a complete disaster sales-wise; rumor has it they only sold 9% compared to the MM17), but alot of other stuff is rather questionable.Tree of Redemption makes me scratch my head in confusion more than anything else. Even if they absolutely needed a Green mythic rare from Innistrad, Garruk Relentless would have been a superior choice.

Barook
03-03-2018, 03:18 PM
Tree of Redemption makes me scratch my head in confusion more than anything else. Even if they absolutely needed a Green mythic rare from Innistrad, Garruk Relentless would have been a superior choice.
Another Planeswalker aside from Jace? We can't have that!

They also had a recent reprint in FTV: Transform (aka shit nobody cares about).

Fox
03-03-2018, 05:48 PM
https://media.wizards.com/2018/a25/en_6IgrqKnNQk.png
There's a really good joke here.

Think anyone would notice if you altered the set symbol to a certain plant? :laugh:

Barook
03-03-2018, 07:37 PM
https://media.wizards.com/2018/a25/en_6IgrqKnNQk.png
There's a really good joke here.
Why did they completely alter his armor? It seems pretty generic now. Compare it to the original:

https://deckmaster.info/images/cards/ME3/201231-hr.jpg

ReAnimator
03-03-2018, 08:27 PM
Just have to pop in to clarify something here:

Commissions go for the same rate regardless of if they're traditionally or digitally painted.


Holy Shit it's Zack Stella!!!

Love your work.

Ronald Deuce
03-06-2018, 05:09 PM
Why did they completely alter his armor? It seems pretty generic now. Compare it to the original:

https://deckmaster.info/images/cards/ME3/201231-hr.jpg

The problem is that it isn't identical art to that of the original Stangg.

bruizar
03-13-2018, 06:34 PM
Disaster 25


https://youtu.be/1btKaGDB3JQ

Barook
03-13-2018, 08:08 PM
https://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/163/850/636332168483687530.png

This really makes me wonder how WotC was able to stay in business that long. They basically just nuked consumer confidence as there's no guarantee that Dominaria doesn't have the same issues.

DLifshitz
03-13-2018, 08:45 PM
This really makes me wonder how WotC was able to stay in business that long. They basically just nuked consumer confidence as there's no guarantee that Dominaria doesn't have the same issues.

If this is a not a fluke, a lot depends on how - or indeed whether - WotC will acknowledge the issue. It stands to reason that if the problem is widespread, they must have been aware of it for some time now. They should have realized how much is at stake, and found some way to pre-empt the inevitable backlash.

Barook
03-13-2018, 09:03 PM
If this is a not a fluke, a lot depends on how - or indeed whether - WotC will acknowledge the issue. It stands to reason that if the problem is widespread, they must have been aware of it for some time now. They should have realized how much is at stake, and found some way to pre-empt the inevitable backlash.
I wouldn't get my hopes up, considering the quality issues of the American card stock which they completely ignore. The mapping issue seems to be widespread if you're looking at the Reddit thread. I also wonder why Jace is mapped differently than the other mythics. #tinfoilhat

Print quality seems pretty poor in general. Dots seem to be prominent as well, although the spread of this is issue is currently unknown.

https://i.imgur.com/VsRZQ8z.jpg

HSCK
03-13-2018, 10:54 PM
Has this forum sunk so low as to be posting garbage from Alpha Investments?

Barook
03-13-2018, 11:58 PM
Has this forum sunk so low as to be posting garbage from Alpha Investments?
This isn't just some clickbait like "Is Hasbro going to sell WotC in a few years?", but an actual issue at hand that other people seem to experience as well. Rudy just put the spotlight onto it.

Claymore
03-14-2018, 01:12 AM
There's some reports that this happened with other Masters and Conspiracy sets, but I think this is a massive highlight just before the set hits the general masses.

To be fair, I haven't seen any other proof in that Reddit thread thus far.

This does fall right after the 'god box' for Unstable foil basics, so fire up your tin foils about more fuckery afoot from Wizards.

Barook
03-14-2018, 11:06 AM
There's some reports that this happened with other Masters and Conspiracy sets, but I think this is a massive highlight just before the set hits the general masses.

To be fair, I haven't seen any other proof in that Reddit thread thus far.

This does fall right after the 'god box' for Unstable foil basics, so fire up your tin foils about more fuckery afoot from Wizards.
The one thing I've noticed is that the mapping issue seems to be the most relevant in supplementary product (like Masters and Conspiracy, as you mentioned). IIRC, there have been mapping threads for Modern Masters 2015 on MTGSalvation back then, but nothing on this level.

Given the various issues of Masters sets (low quality prints, MM15's abyssal paper package that could be opened and resealed with little trouble, mapping issues), it seems that WotC is more willing to cut costs on supplementary product that targets enfranchised veteran players as those have a higher resistance to their bullshit. That would certainly explain why their expensive premium products have issues left and right.

CptHaddock
03-14-2018, 12:22 PM
This isn't just some clickbait like "Is Hasbro going to sell WotC in a few years?", but an actual issue at hand that other people seem to experience as well. Rudy just put the spotlight onto it.

Um, the Rudy guy who's video was posted is known for extremely clickbaity stuff in order to move his own product. It seems very odd that he's the only one who's encountered this issue and publicized it especially considering there are a lot of people who are opening mass amount of product e.g. this store who opened a bunch of boxes and didn't run into the same issue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWAhRPIFgR8).

Seems like there are some printing issues (https://twitter.com/MTGCritic/status/973730376379129856) in this set.

JDK
03-14-2018, 01:16 PM
Seems like there are some printing issues (https://twitter.com/MTGCritic/status/973730376379129856) in this set.

No need to promote some twitter guy. Just link TheSource. ;)

https://imgur.com/a/tHOE5

HSCK
03-14-2018, 05:13 PM
There's been a slew of box openings with no issues that Rudy brought up; which points to that he's putting out more BS.

easysantiago
03-18-2018, 01:34 AM
There's been a slew of box openings with no issues that Rudy brought up; which points to that he's putting out more BS.

Randy aside, similar results have been posted elsewhere.

Ahab
03-18-2018, 01:15 PM
So I played in a sealed yesterday with 32 people. Everyone had a blast. There are no obviuos decks, except maybe the crab, and that one was just straight up bad. The best seemed to be playing general good stuff, card advantage and "not so obvious" combos like morphs + zombify. There is no forced synergy like Ixalan.
Maybe not all cards are nostalgic, the gameplay certainly is.

Pros:
- Pickles lock is in the set
- Cool rares and uncommons
- Lots of morphs, which I like
- cheap, efficient removal
- cloudshifting a 9/9

Cons:
- Ensnaring bridge, what a f**king joke in limited

iOWN
03-19-2018, 01:54 AM
Went to a draft on Saturday, was a great experience. Love the two-card synergy and wide open feel vs. the very curated, archetype-driven strategies we get in most sets. I played UW control and got a few Crabs + Retraction Helix, a playset of Squadron Hawks + 3 Brainstorm. I was sitting next to two people drafting the same colors as me, but we were all playing such different strategies that it didn't even feel like we were competing for resources.