GP Seattle

[Barook]

Coverage is up!

https://www.twitch.tv/magic

First match is 4C Leovold vs D&T.

[Morden]

As always, first streaming of the day gives great emotions. Skill over 9000.

[CabalTherapy]

Coverage is up!

https://www.twitch.tv/magic

First match is 4C Leovold vs D&T.

After g1 I can truely say that both players really did their best to try to lose that game.

edit: G2, wow. Them plays....

[Ephemeron]

I usually try not to be too hard to people on camera but this match has been appalling. Just so many misplays.

[H]

I usually try not to be too hard to people on camera but this match has been appalling. Just so many misplays.

There simply has to be a limit...I have no idea how many cameras it would take for me to try tapping a Rest In Peace for mana, but it would sure need to be more than two.

[(nameless one)]

After g1 I can truely say that both players really did their best to try to lose that game.

edit: G2, wow. Them plays....

The guy with the indoor sunglasses could have won by Porting the control player's land. Instead, he gave him enough mana to Toxic Deluge.

Maybe he couldn't read what Port says because of his sunglasses. He also tapped Rest In Peace and tried to use it for mana.

[Hopo]

What was the dice thing all about in the end? I thought they were counting additional turns but they didn't stop at five. Maybe sounds would have told what's going on but I'm watching muted stream so I'm just baffled.

[CabalTherapy]

What was the dice thing all about in the end? I thought they were counting additional turns but they didn't stop at five. Maybe sounds would have told what's going on but I'm watching muted stream so I'm just baffled.

I think it was related to a slow-play warning.

[H]

I think it was related to a slow-play warning.

Yeah, slow play warning gave them 7 extra turns instead of 5.

[Hopo]

Thanks. No wonder nothing made sense.

[H]

Thanks. No wonder nothing made sense.

There were many other reasons, but at least that one could be logically explained.

Would it really be so hard to ask around for some local Legacy "specialists" who might not have had byes, so the feature match could actually feature something? Plus it would be a nice nod to the local community.

[Ephemeron]

Tusks up! #freenedleeds

[Hopo]

These guys still represent the average player. People are too spoiled by watching only pros play on camera.

[CptHaddock]

Have we taken bets on what is going to top 8? I'm assuming 28/32 Brainstorm and 28/32 DRS, assuming that 1 Dragon Stompy/D&T player who managed to dodge all of their bad matchups/Lands player who managed to dodge lotus petals/Eldrazi player who is playing legacy for the first time manages to top 8.

[Barook]

Have we taken bets on what is going to top 8? I'm assuming 28/32 Brainstorm and 28/32 DRS, assuming that 1 Dragon Stompy/D&T player who managed to dodge all of their bad matchups/Lands player who managed to dodge lotus petals/Eldrazi player who is playing legacy for the first time manages to top 8.
My money is on 24/32 Brainstorms and 20/32 DRS, but only because the Top 16 and Top 32 are choke-full with the rest that didn't make it on the breakers.

[ReAnimator]

Usually Legacy GP's have 16-20/32 Brainstorms in the top 8, and then the top 32 is 88/96, and Wotc gets to pretend everything is fine.

[phonics]

I'm thinking at least half will be some combination of Czech Pile and Grixis Delver.

[Teluin]

wow guys, page 1 and the Brainstorm bitching? really?

[kinda]

Monoblue Minotaurs 3-1 currently!

[Ephemeron]

Monoblue Minotaurs 3-1 currently!

Toot toot, motherfuckers!

[Bosque]

Soldiers on camera! Lost to Post Eldrazi though :(

Thankfully, neither one is Czech Pile mirrors all day.

[phonics]

Soldiers on camera! Lost to Post Eldrazi though :(

Thankfully, neither one is Czech Pile mirrors all day.

Lucky you its 4c delver vs Czech this round!

[Bosque]

Lucky you its 4c delver vs Czech this round!

Sure wish the commentators knew anything about legacy, or at a minimum that someone over there could label the deck names correctly for the match.

[Meekrab]

Yeah, slow play warning gave them 7 extra turns instead of 5.
I've often found that Slow Play warnings only served to delay the tournament even more, but this is ridiculous.

[kinda]

Toot toot, motherfuckers!

The wheels have fallen off the bus.

[Rascalyote]

for anyone who hasn't seen it, they're replaying that Death and Taxes Rd1 and game 2 is some funny stuff, I'd recommend watching.

[(nameless one)]

wow guys, page 1 and the Brainstorm bitching? really?

It's all triggered by Nedleeds being on stream. #freeNedleeds #TuskUp

[PirateKing]

for anyone who hasn't seen it, they're replaying that Death and Taxes Rd1 and game 2 is some funny stuff, I'd recommend watching.

My God you guys weren't kidding around

[Rascalyote]

My God you guys weren't kidding around

I missed game 1 first time around, search up revoker in the face of liliana last hope, pass turn Revoker gets Liliana'd. The whole match is an instant classic.

[ReAnimator]

Hooooooollly smoke is that match a dumpster fire.

[mistercakes]

Day 1 undefeated

Their decks included five copies of Grixis Delver, three copies of Four-Color Control, two copies of Miracles, and one copy of Storm.

[ironclad8690]

Day 1 undefeated

Their decks included five copies of Grixis Delver, three copies of Four-Color Control, two copies of Miracles, and one copy of Storm.

Where'd you see this?

[mistercakes]

On the coverage page

[l33twash0r]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpsea18-legacy/day-1-highlights-2018-04-06


The Day One undefeated players were Kusakabe Kyohei from Japan, Luke Purcell from Washington D.C., Noah Walker from Massachusetts, Justin Gennari from Rhode Island, Keaton Wood from San Diego, Travis Hilley from Klamath Falls, Oregon, Michael Reed from St. Louis, Daniel Duterte from Seattle, John Mcdermott from South Bend, Indiana, Brian Braun-Duin from Richmond, Virginia, and Seth Manfield from Maryland.

Their decks included five copies of Grixis Delver, three copies of Four-Color Control, two copies of Miracles, and one copy of Storm

[Serch]

any link to the metagame breakdown?

[Barook]

any link to the metagame breakdown?
We're getting that at the beginning of Day 2 normally.

[Gheizen64]

Day 1 undefeated

Their decks included five copies of Grixis Delver, three copies of Four-Color Control, two copies of Miracles, and one copy of Storm.

Clearly need to ban DRS.

There's no other factor in common to all those decks. And certainly not one that has been in common to top decks of the last 5 years, for that matter!

[Plm]

Clearly need to ban DRS.

There's no other factor in common to all those decks. And certainly not one that has been in common to top decks of the last 5 years, for that matter!

And we're back to brainstorm...

:tongue:

[CabalTherapy]

Clearly need to ban DRS.

There's no other factor in common to all those decks. And certainly not one that has been in common to top decks of the last 5 years, for that matter!


And people wonder why there seems to be less participation on the source nowadays?! I am getting tired of reading the same salty and uneducated posts over and over again.

[mistercakes]

fwiw, 11 undefeated decks, and 44 brainstorms + 44 ponders is a little annoying.

[Stevestamopz]

The round 1 feature really was a delight to watch, kudos to both players, the commentary and the twitch chat for their efforts in this comedy masterpiece.

[Dice_Box]

Zack is undefeated, 7-0-2 on RuG Lands. They just don't seem to count x-0-x as undefeated.

[non-inflammable]

They just don't seem to count x-0-x as undefeated.

'cause he wasn't playing brainstorm...

"Their decks included five copies of Grixis Delver, three copies of Four-Color Control, two copies of Miracles, and one copy of Storm.
Congratulations to the Grand Prix Seattle Day One undefeated players!"

[Gheizen64]

Zack is undefeated, 7-0-2 on RuG Lands. They just don't seem to count x-0-x as undefeated.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/008/305/its-a-conspiracy.jpg

[Barook]

Zack is undefeated, 7-0-2 on RuG Lands. They just don't seem to count x-0-x as undefeated.
"Undefeated player" simply sounds better than "players with maximum points" or whatever. And draws are kinda like losses, more or less.

[Whitefaces]

Volcanic Island is clearly the problem card here.

[Michael Keller]

Monoblue Minotaurs 3-1 currently!

I want to know how the hell this turned out.

#Didgeridoo!

[Barook]

Volcanic Island is clearly the problem card here.
No wonder Richard Garfield didn't put it into Alpha. Volcanic Island is not Magic as Richard Garfield has intended.


Toot toot, motherfuckers!
Shouldn't it rather be "Moo, moo, motherfuckers!"?

[Phoenix Ignition]

Watching 4-Color delver decks win all their "losing" matchups on camera makes me sad.

At least SCG has Modern on.

[phonics]

Watching 4-Color delver decks win all their "losing" matchups on camera makes me sad.

At least SCG has Modern on.

By this coverage, grixis delver/ leovold must be at least half the meta.

[Barook]

By this coverage, grixis delver/ leovold must be at least half the meta.
I'm suprised by the amount of coverage D&T gets. A shame we still don't have data on the Day 2 decks yet.

[Barook]

Top 8:
1 Noah Walker - Grixis Delver
2 Daniel Duterte - Grixis Delver
3 Steven Rubin - Czech Pile
4 Jeremy Dezani - BUG control
5 Luke Purcell - Miracles
6 Samuel Black - Lands
7 Miranda Keith - Maverick
8 Keaton Wood - Miracles


My money is on 24/32 Brainstorms and 20/32 DRS, but only because the Top 16 and Top 32 are choke-full with the rest that didn't make it on the breakers.
Edit: Looks like I was spot-on with my Top 8 prediction (after my initial brainfart with the DRS count).

[say no to scurvy]

Saved images of the decklists:

https://imgur.com/a/vexi2

[CptHaddock]

Saved images of the decklists:

https://imgur.com/a/vexi2

I am thrilled that I lost painter so that 2 miracles players could top 8.

[kirtar]

Looks like I was close with my prediction, except Maverick ruined the DRS part.

What do you mean? It's exactly 20 DRS in the top 8. There are also exactly 24 Brainstorms and Force of Wills, but only 23 Ponders. There are 3 decks not playing DRS (Lands, and 2x Miracles) with the rest running playsets.

[Barook]

What do you mean? It's exactly 20 DRS in the top 8. There are also exactly 24 Brainstorms and Force of Wills, but only 23 Ponders. There are 3 decks not playing DRS (Lands, and 2x Miracles) with the rest running playsets.
Nevermind, brainfart on my part then.

Edit: Top 16 (https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpsea18-legacy/9-16-decklists-2018-04-07)
Supringly enough, there are only 4 DRS decks on the places #9-16, putting it at 36/64 copies. Meanwhile, Brainstorm sits at 44/64 copies, but that's business as usual by now. :rolleyes:

[Tittliewinks22]

I am thrilled that I lost painter so that 2 miracles players could top 8.

^ This hits home.

3 of our local guys lost their deck (2 painter, 1 cloudpost) because miracles was "too good"

[Fallen_Empire]

2-0-6 !!!

[kombatkiwi]

^ This hits home.

3 of our local guys lost their deck (2 painter, 1 cloudpost) because miracles was "too good"

This 'underdog' narrative is so stupid, I'm sure there are Tundra players who appreciate that their deck is still playable

[Jax-]

Its a nice time to be a combo player!

[maharis]

This 'underdog' narrative is so stupid, I'm sure there are Tundra players who appreciate that their deck is still playable

Their deck was always still going to be playable. The other decks had no chance.

[Megadeus]

Yes. Because one deck plays Brainstorm and the others do not (maybe Cloudpost does but that basically only existed because it beats Miracles)

[Dice_Box]

This 'underdog' narrative is so stupid, I'm sure there are Tundra players who appreciate that their deck is still playable

And good luck to them with their deck. I'm not asking for anyone to be banned out of the format. That said I didn't really want to put my Alpha REB up for sale, my Recruiters or my Moons up for sale but did. We lost top and we all knew that was going to be the option. I'm sure those Tundra lost so much Value while Painter became unplayable. Something had to be done though.

It's just sad that what we lost was interesting and fun and what we kept was the same shit with a different patterned toilet paper.

[Moosedog]

I could care less about top 64. I need more of this! What happened?


Monoblue Minotaurs 3-1 currently!

[Crimhead]

It's just sad that what we lost was interesting and fun and what we kept was the same shit with a different patterned toilet paper.
I agree Painter was interesting and fun; and I lament the format's loss. This coming from a guy who almost never beat the cursed deck!

That said, I am glad we kept Miracles, because it is also interesting and fun. Between the heavy "top deck matters" theme, and the fact that it's a dedicated stack based control deck with very little in the way of actual threats, makes it a distinctive deck. I think it's uniqueness gets downplayed because it:

- Is a cantrip deck
- Is a frustrating "hard control" deck
- Was top dog for so very long.
- Survived a (hefty) ban but is still tier-1.

I believe these features have garnered a lot of resentment for Miracles that the current version doesn't really deserve.

[Admiral_Arzar]

That said I didn't really want to put my Alpha REB up for sale, my Recruiters or my Moons up for sale but did. We lost top and we all knew that was going to be the option. I'm sure those Tundra lost so much Value while Painter became unplayable. Something had to be done though.

It's just sad that what we lost was interesting and fun and what we kept was the same shit with a different patterned toilet paper.

Don't sell your painter stuff just yet. That deck is still gasoline although you can't beat strong Grixis draws #bandeathrite.