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Jesture
05-02-2019, 10:40 AM
Hey all, Sean here with the latest episode of Lone Star Legacy. In this episode Ben and I spend time going over some of the biggest players from War of the Spark, then make our predictions on how many times each will top 8 in the months to come.

https://lonestarlhurgoyfs.com/2019-05-22-Podcast-WAR-Review/

Our criteria for top 8's includes all tcdecks.net of 64+ person tournaments that take place between now and the next standard legal set. You can find the audio file and our predictions in the link above, then stay tuned for our follow up podcast in a few months where we revisit our predictions!

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
05-02-2019, 12:37 PM
Someone got a TLDR version?

thecrav
05-02-2019, 04:59 PM
Someone got a TLDR version?

No. That's why it's a podcast and not a tweet.

Lord_Mcdonalds
05-02-2019, 05:05 PM
I thought it was a documentary not a podcast?

H
05-02-2019, 05:22 PM
I thought it was a documentary not a podcast?

I thought it was a floor wax, not an dessert topping.

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
05-02-2019, 05:34 PM
No. That's why it's a podcast and not a tweet.
What is your point here? Other than some indignation that I'm showing insufficient reverence for their effort for using completely the wrong medium to convey their information?

TsumiBand
05-02-2019, 07:08 PM
Someone got a TLDR version?

This set contains cards that span a range of competitive viability

Lord_Mcdonalds
05-03-2019, 10:19 AM
What is your point here? Other than some indignation that I'm showing insufficient reverence for their effort for using completely the wrong medium to convey their information?

What’s the right medium to convey this information? Smoke signals, messenger pigeon, song and dance routine?

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
05-03-2019, 11:04 AM
What’s the right medium to convey this information? Smoke signals, messenger pigeon, song and dance routine?

Probably something with pictures so I can see what they're talking about without having an encyclopedic knowledge of magic.

Lord_Mcdonalds
05-03-2019, 11:58 AM
Have you ever heard of this thing called google

H
05-03-2019, 12:00 PM
Have you ever heard of this thing called google

Well, I think hieroglyphs are pretty underused nowadays though...

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
05-03-2019, 01:44 PM
Have you ever heard of this thing called google
Having to do additional work to listen to the show kinda supports my point that this is "the wrong medium".

Jesture
05-03-2019, 02:19 PM
Having to do additional work to listen to the show kinda supports my point that this is "the wrong medium".

Hey bud, thanks for taking the time to respond. I think a lot of content creators including ourselves have come to the same conclusion about podcasts, and that is that they're one of the best ways to disseminate large amounts of information despite being limited to audio only. Nobody's going to argue that podcasts are the perfect medium, but in this instance I do think it's one of the better options we have when compared to more traditional formats such as video, written article, or even a stream (which all have their specific strengths and weaknesses.)

In regards to us not providing enough information about the cards in question, that's totally fair criticism. Ben and I do our best to read out the text of cards we think people might not be familiar with, so this is definitely something we want to hear about. Would you mind sharing a couple of instances where you felt it would've been beneficial to share the relevant card text with the listeners?

If you're still looking for that TL;DR, I'd like to point you to the 13 cards listed in the time stamps section on the website. If you're interested in any of our opinions on those cards, feel free to skip to the relevant portion of the podcast to check them out. Thanks for your feedback!

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
05-03-2019, 03:26 PM
Hey bud, thanks for taking the time to respond. I think a lot of content creators including ourselves have come to the same conclusion about podcasts, and that is that they're one of the best ways to disseminate large amounts of information despite being limited to audio only. Nobody's going to argue that podcasts are the perfect medium, but in this instance I do think it's one of the better options we have when compared to more traditional formats such as video, written article, or even a stream (which all have their specific strengths and weaknesses.) I don't know how you drew this conclusion, and I don't really want to labor the point so I'll just leave you with this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwuy4hHO3YQ&t=0m40s)


In regards to us not providing enough information about the cards in question, that's totally fair criticism. Ben and I do our best to read out the text of cards we think people might not be familiar with, so this is definitely something we want to hear about. Would you mind sharing a couple of instances where you felt it would've been beneficial to share the relevant card text with the listeners? Every card after the first two, which I was only familiar with because I had been explicitly looking for new post toys during spoiler season. Every other card you mentioned once or twice and then if I didn't remember exactly I'd be lost for the rest of the conversation. A point the two of you ran into yourselves when you had to re-explain to eachother what the white DRS hatebear did. If, during your own show where you choose ahead of time what content to present, can't remember the details of the cards how are we, the listener. A camera pointed to gatherer would have been an 100% improved experience.

Jesture
05-03-2019, 04:45 PM
I don't know how you drew this conclusion, and I don't really want to labor the point so I'll just leave you with this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwuy4hHO3YQ&t=0m40s)

Well at least we can agree we're not here to argue this. Great song btw.


Every card after the first two, which I was only familiar with because I had been explicitly looking for new post toys during spoiler season. Every other card you mentioned once or twice and then if I didn't remember exactly I'd be lost for the rest of the conversation. A point the two of you ran into yourselves when you had to re-explain to eachother what the white DRS hatebear did. If, during your own show where you choose ahead of time what content to present, can't remember the details of the cards how are we, the listener. A camera pointed to gatherer would have been an 100% improved experience.

Idk man, seems like legacy players are pretty good at memorizing cards on the fly. Every time you run into a new card in the middle of a tournament you have to read what the card does, process that information, then retain it and play around that card for the rest of the match. I don't think I'm giving people too much credit when I assume they don't need to be looking at a new card to know what it does.

bruizar
05-03-2019, 05:43 PM
What’s the right medium to convey this information? Smoke signals, messenger pigeon, song and dance routine?

song and dance


i'll grab the popcorn

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
05-03-2019, 10:45 PM
Well at least we can agree we're not here to argue this. Great song btw.



Idk man, seems like legacy players are pretty good at memorizing cards on the fly. Every time you run into a new card in the middle of a tournament you have to read what the card does, process that information, then retain it and play around that card for the rest of the match. I don't think I'm giving people too much credit when I assume they don't need to be looking at a new card to know what it does.
You seem dead set on the hottest takes as for why you're using a dated medium but this is another bit of opposite-of-reality.txt: This is why you take notes during a match, and why players are not required to know cards by name even when playing cards that explicitly require you to name cards.

TsumiBand
05-04-2019, 10:09 AM
I have no idea why you're dragging this guy so hard. It's okay to not like podcasts for card reviews, but frankly you are the one with the "pOdCaStS aRe A dAtEd MeDiUm" spicy take here.

kinda
05-04-2019, 11:06 AM
song and dance


i'll grab the popcorn

I’d watch this pod cast!

Megadeus
05-06-2019, 05:18 AM
Just a note about Karn and Batterskull. You can use karns +1 ability to make the Batterskull into a creature making it fall off the germ and then after the turn it no longer can bounce or reequip


Also Both Karns can kind of play off of each other. New Karn can go get card exiled by old Karn which is pretty neat

Bithlord
05-06-2019, 10:31 AM
What’s the right medium to convey this information? Smoke signals, messenger pigeon, song and dance routine?

Written word.

Podcasts suck.

Purple Blood
05-06-2019, 04:45 PM
Written word.

Podcasts suck.

Hard to read when you're driving. Podcasts are exploding for a reason. A lot of the time you are doing something that requires your visual attention but your ears are free.

As for the original complainer, its especially petty to insult someone putting out free content because its not your preferred medium. Why bother even posting something like that in the first place or even opening the thread to begin with? Nothing better to do with your time then complain?

benk499
05-06-2019, 08:59 PM
Just a note about Karn and Batterskull. You can use karns +1 ability to make the Batterskull into a creature making it fall off the germ and then after the turn it no longer can bounce or reequip


Also Both Karns can kind of play off of each other. New Karn can go get card exiled by old Karn which is pretty neat


Definitely didn't catch that Batterskull interaction, that's awesome!

Every time I see more about Karn I realize there's more to him than I originally thought. I'm now thinking Sean and I shot way too low.

rufus
05-07-2019, 10:47 AM
... You can use karns +1 ability to make the Batterskull into a creature making it fall off the germ and then after the turn it no longer can bounce ...

I don't think it loses the bounce ability.

H
05-07-2019, 10:54 AM
I don't think it loses the bounce ability.

It doesn't lose the ability, Karn, the Great Creator says "Activated abilities of artifacts your opponents control can't be activated."

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
05-07-2019, 11:03 AM
I have no idea why you're dragging this guy so hard. It's okay to not like podcasts for card reviews, but frankly you are the one with the "pOdCaStS aRe A dAtEd MeDiUm" spicy take here.

I asked for a synopsis and instead of moving on, some people decided to turn this into a thing. Like, if y'all want to keep lining up to die on the "no actually radio is better than TV hill" that's on them.

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
05-07-2019, 11:05 AM
I don't think it loses the bounce ability.

You mean the artifact's pay 3, return it to your hand?
That's an activated ability, which is shut off by Karn.

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
05-07-2019, 11:07 AM
As for the original complainer, its especially petty to insult someone putting out free content because its not your preferred medium. Why bother even posting something like that in the first place or even opening the thread to begin with? Nothing better to do with your time then complain?

Is your scroll wheel broken? The first reply in this thread is me making what I want real clear.

Jander78
05-07-2019, 01:40 PM
Keep discussion on the content of the podcast and set review. No more discussion of the preferred medium to disseminate information will be tolerated in this thread.