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kinda
08-05-2019, 06:19 PM
The core of the deck is using Preeminent captain/sorin, lord of innistrad to cheat in licia and morophon protected by chalice. Not sure on the other cards yet but here is version one, thoughts welcome!
4 chalice of the void
2 collective brutality
4 Preeminent captain
4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
3 morophon, the boundless
4 licia, sanguine tribune
2 anje's ravager
2 Palace jailer
3 gifted aetherborn
4 stromkirk captain
3 bloodghast
1 vona, butcher of magan
1 champion of dusk
4 chrome mox
4 ancient tomb
16 lands
SB
4 thalia, guardian of thraben
4 leyline of the void
3 zealous persecution
4 blood sun
Erdvermampfa
08-07-2019, 04:35 AM
Needs moar Champion of Dusk (and Oathsworn Vampire to combo with Sorin).
kinda
08-07-2019, 08:19 AM
Needs moar Champion of Dusk (and Oathsworn Vampire to combo with Sorin).
Champion looks sweet, I think bloodghast is better than Oathsworn. I'm not sure how to build the mana base for this? I'll run it in my proxy event this month.
kinda
11-24-2019, 05:01 PM
Thinking of switching this to a dark ritual deck to try to turn one sorin into morophon/licia or buried alive.
4 dark ritual
4 chrome mox
17 lands
4 Preeminent captain
4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
4 stromkirk captain
3 morophon
4 licia
3 bloodghast
4 buried alive
1 hogaak
2 anje's ravager
4 cabal therapy
3 legion lieutenant
Hogaak + 2 Bloodghast isn't that exciting payoff for resolving Dark Ritual + Buried Alive (which is not easy to assemble and vulnerable to many lines of disruption: counters, grave hate, storm hate, chalice). The bar is 3 Phoenixes or some reanimator combo.
What was wrong with the Chalice Stompy build? Was it not winning games?
I think if you cut red it would get easier to support.
//Mana: 24
4 Chrome Mox
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Marsh Flats
4 Prismatic Vista
3 Scrubland
3 Snow-Covered Swamp
2 Snow-Covered Plains
//Planeswalkers: 4
4 Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord
//Artifacts: 4
4 Chalice of the Void
//Creatures: 28
4 Legion Lieutenant
3 Gifted Aetherborn
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Preeminent Captain
4 Kheru Mind-Eater
2 Palace Jailer
1 Elenda, the Dusk Rose
3 Morophon, the Boundless
4 Licia, Sanguine Tribune
//Sideboard: 15
1 Karakas
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Kataki, War's Wage
2 Containment Priest
2 Phyrexian Revoker
2 Yixlid Jailer
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Zealous Persecution
Other vampires that might be playable:
Asylum Visitor
Duskmantle Legion
Bishop of Binding
Bloodline Keeper
Drana, Liberator of Malakir
Forerunner of the Legion
Gatekeeper of Malakir
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle
Vampire Hexmage
kinda
11-25-2019, 08:07 AM
You're right I think. Kheru looks very cool, I never knew it existed. The two cc two color dudes liked gifted/legion r tough with the tombs.
kinda
12-04-2019, 04:47 AM
I went an impressive 0-3 vs infect x2/ turbo depths. I'm thinking I'll swap the therapies for swords then cut the bitterblossom/contamination/oathsworn package for something.
3 vampire of the dire moon
1 asylum visitor
1 anje's ravager
2 kheru mind-eater
4 cabal therapy
1 jitte
2 contamination
3 bitterblossom
2 Oathsworn Vampire
4 Preeminent captain
4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
2 stromkirk captain
2 mirror entity
3 morophon
4 licia
4 chrome mox
4 ancient to
14 land
SB
4 leyline of the void
3 thalia
3 zealous persecution
3 collective brutality
2 Palace jailer
I went an impressive 0-3 vs infect x2/ turbo depths. I'm thinking I'll swap the therapies for swords then cut the bitterblossom/contamination/oathsworn package for something.
0 Chalice, 0 Thalia/spheres main, 0 Karakas, 0 Moons, only 4 discard main.... no wonder you lost 0-3 to fast combo. Contamination lock is good against some decks but too slow against the explosive ones.
To interact with fast combo, BW either needs something like 8 discard (4 Thoughtseize + 4 Therapy) or the stompy route like I had (Chalice + Thalia). The Vamp Soldier engine is cute, but you need interaction too.
Depths stomps everything without Swords and Karakas. Were those freak pairings or is your local meta Depths-heavy? If there's a lot of Depths, definitely add 4 Swords and any Karakas you own. I wouldn't cut discard though. You need something to interact with other unfair decks.
3 vampire of the dire moon
1 asylum visitor
1 anje's ravager
2 kheru mind-eater
4 cabal therapy
1 jitte
2 contamination
3 bitterblossom
2 Oathsworn Vampire
4 Preeminent captain
4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
2 stromkirk captain
2 mirror entity
3 morophon
4 licia
4 chrome mox
4 ancient to
14 land
SB
4 leyline of the void
3 thalia
3 zealous persecution
3 collective brutality
2 Palace jailer
Using your Chalice-less list, I would try something like this
//Spells: 10
4 Thoughtseize
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Cabal Therapy
//Planeswalkers: 4
4 Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord
//Creatures: 23
4 Vampire of the Dire Moon
4 Legion Lieutenant
4 Preeminent Captain
2 Kheru Mind-Eater
2 Palace Jailer
3 Morophon, the Boundless
4 Licia, Sanguine Tribune
//Mana: 23
4 Chrome Mox
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Marsh Flats
2 Prismatic Vista
2 Scrubland
3 Snow-Covered Swamp
2 Snow-Covered Plains
2 Karakas
Play more interaction. That still has the core engine but it also has more disruption against unfair decks.
Legion Lieutenant is easier to cast than Stromkirk Captain. Unlike other Sol Land decks, there are still 19 colored sources here + 4 Sorin and 3 Morophon to cheat them out.
kinda
12-05-2019, 05:53 AM
Using your Chalice-less list, I would try something like this
//Spells: 10
4 Thoughtseize
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Cabal Therapy
//Planeswalkers: 4
4 Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord
//Creatures: 23
4 Vampire of the Dire Moon
4 Legion Lieutenant
4 Preeminent Captain
2 Kheru Mind-Eater
2 Palace Jailer
3 Morophon, the Boundless
4 Licia, Sanguine Tribune
//Mana: 23
4 Chrome Mox
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Marsh Flats
2 Prismatic Vista
2 Scrubland
3 Snow-Covered Swamp
2 Snow-Covered Plains
2 Karakas
Play more interaction. That still has the core engine but it also has more disruption against unfair decks.
Legion Lieutenant is easier to cast than Stromkirk Captain. Unlike other Sol Land decks, there are still 19 colored sources here + 4 Sorin and 3 Morophon to cheat them out.
It looks good! I'll run something very close to this next week. I wish there was a good vampire token generator.
Tylert
12-05-2019, 07:05 AM
I wish there was a good vampire token generator.
I guess Sorin and the 3/3 flyer are too slow?
ANd legion's landing also? (And anyway, i don't see this flipping easily in legacy)
kinda
12-10-2019, 05:37 PM
0-3 again with a list very close to FTW's. The aggro backup plan just doesn't seem good enough right now and not sure if one good enough could be built with vampires. I'm considering either going soldiers heavy instead of vampires or BWg for living wish (to get depths)/vampire hexmage. Something like:
4 Preeminent captain
4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
4 vampire hexmage
4 living wish
4 licia
4 stp
2 sylvan library
12 ?
4 chrome mox
4 ancient to
14 land
SB
1 depths
1 big vampire
1 big soldier
Soldier-heavy could be good. Was Morophon bad?
//Soldiers: 32
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Preeminent Captain
3 Recruiter of the Guard
3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
3 Palace Jailer
4 Enlistment Officer
4 Licia, Sanguine Tribune
7 flex slots
//Artifacts: 8
4 Chrome Mox
4 Chalice of the Void
//Lands: 20
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
3 Karakas
9 Snow-Covered Plains
kinda
12-14-2019, 06:48 PM
He's underwhelming on his own.
kinda
12-17-2019, 06:27 PM
Soldier-heavy could be good. Was Morophon bad?
//Soldiers: 32
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Preeminent Captain
3 Recruiter of the Guard
3 Thalia, Heretic Cathar
3 Palace Jailer
4 Enlistment Officer
4 Licia, Sanguine Tribune
7 flex slots
//Artifacts: 8
4 Chrome Mox
4 Chalice of the Void
//Lands: 20
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Cavern of Souls
3 Karakas
9 Snow-Covered Plains
I don't own chalices, but if I do run this again I'll be borrowing chalices.
I went 1-3 tonight for a lifetime 1-9 now, so I'm retiring the chalice-less build of this deck. I lowered the curve and made it more aggressive which I liked, but still not very good.
4 enlistment officer
3 thalia, guardian of thraben
2 kytheon, hero of akros
1 palace jailer
3 legion warboss
1 legion loyalist
2 vicious conquistador
2 goldmeadow harrier
4 Preeminent captain
4 sorin, imperious bloodlord
2 mirror entity
3 morophon
4 licia
3 swords to plowshares
4 chrome mox
4 ancient to
15 land
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