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kinda
04-22-2020, 07:20 AM
Lurrus looks to me like a dreadhorde arcanist of sorts for permanents, though 3cmc and you need to pay for your spell. I think it is good enough to see md play if it wasn't a companion, which I feel is the issue with it. So I'm curious, would you guys run it md if they errata out companion?

pettdan
04-22-2020, 07:25 AM
With recruiter of the guard in the deck I would. Otherwise, I suppose so, depending on what the rest of the deck looks like.. Not comfortable discussing delver decks though. Or storm, but can't imagine storm would play it md.

Barook
04-22-2020, 09:03 AM
if they errata out companion?
They would probably just ban instead.

kinda
04-22-2020, 09:40 AM
They would probably just ban instead.

Right but as a thought experiment.

ahg113
04-22-2020, 06:37 PM
I would run it, had I pre-ordered it before the prices went crazy.

In a team italia, d'n't, zombardment deck, Lurrus is just value town, forget about the companion part. There's even a cat-tribal deck now, runs Lurrus MD. It's a good card for sure. When you only have to pay 2 for your stuff back, it's not a lot, helps the mid-game extend so late-game there's still gas. For fair decks, it really helps. I know Storm plays a copy, so there's that, same idea. They get back LEDs, maybe petals, aether spellbombs in a pinch. I never thought of them going for the long game, but they use it strictly as a companion, whereas I like it MD. I'd be shocked if they MD the card.

Cire
04-22-2020, 06:54 PM
They would probably just ban instead.

Wonder what vintage will be like in a month?

FTW
04-22-2020, 09:40 PM
II know Storm plays a copy, so there's that, same idea. They get back LEDs, maybe petals, aether spellbombs in a pinch. I never thought of them going for the long game, but they use it strictly as a companion, whereas I like it MD. I'd be shocked if they MD the card.

Storm doesn't use it for the long game.

The main interaction is this:
Crack LED for BBB
Cast Lurrus from Companion zone
Cast LED from grave

You can do it when you would crack LED anyway for a free +2 storm at 0 cost (Lurrus takes up a companion slot). That wouldn't work from the maindeck.

Or you can cast Lurrus earlier, then double crack LED on your combo turn.
It also has some synergy with recurring Petals, gaining life for Ad Naus, and softlocking with Hope of Ghirapur loops. But generally it's used for the short-term storm and mana advantage, not the long game.

Death & Taxes might be able to use it maindeck.

Cire
04-22-2020, 10:06 PM
Storm doesn't use it for the long game.

The main interaction is this:
Crack LED for BBB
Cast Lurrus from Companion zone
Cast LED from grave

You can do it when you would crack LED anyway for a free +2 storm at 0 cost (Lurrus takes up a companion slot). That wouldn't work from the maindeck.

Or you can cast Lurrus earlier, then double crack LED on your combo turn.
It also has some synergy with recurring Petals, gaining life for Ad Naus, and softlocking with Hope of Ghirapur loops. But generally it's used for the short-term storm and mana advantage, not the long game.

Death & Taxes might be able to use it maindeck.

Assuming "companions" are banned as "companions" - what would be the best Lurrus list? Something vaguely like Team Italia? Replaying Kroxa over and over seems mean and fun.

4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Thoughtseize
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Seal of Fire

3 Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger
3 Dark Confidant
3 Hope of Ghirapur
4 Mother of Runes
4 Lurrus, of the Dream Den

4 Arcum's Astrolab
4 Lotus Petal
4 Mishra's Bauble

17 Lands

Just a lot of fun Lurrus interactions. Petal, Hope, Bauble, Seal, Kroxa

FTW
04-22-2020, 10:31 PM
Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger is pretty bad. It only stays if you escape it.

Deadguy Ale might be a better shell


//Creatures: 18
4 Mother of Runes
3 Cabal Therapist
4 Dark Confidant
4 Stoneforge Mystic
3 Lurrus, of the Dream Den

//Artifacts: 7
4 Mishra's Bauble
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Battersull

//Spells: 15
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Thoughtseize
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Lingering Souls

//Lands: 20
3 Karakas
4 Marsh Flats
4 Prismatic Vista
4 Scrubland
2 Snow-Covered Plains
3 Snow-Covered Swamp


Sideboard could include cards like
Nihil Spellbomb
Tormod's Crypt
Deafening Silence
Seal of Cleansing
Hope of Ghirapur


It could also work in D&T as a Recruiter target to recur guys

Cire
04-22-2020, 10:39 PM
Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger is pretty bad. It only stays if you escape it.
nah- you want it to go to the grave so you can recast it each turn with lurrus and make opponent discard and potentially lose 3 life.

ahg113
04-23-2020, 02:47 AM
Storm doesn't use it for the long game.

The main interaction is this:
Crack LED for BBB
Cast Lurrus from Companion zone
Cast LED from grave

You can do it when you would crack LED anyway for a free +2 storm at 0 cost (Lurrus takes up a companion slot). That wouldn't work from the maindeck.

Or you can cast Lurrus earlier, then double crack LED on your combo turn.
It also has some synergy with recurring Petals, gaining life for Ad Naus, and softlocking with Hope of Ghirapur loops. But generally it's used for the short-term storm and mana advantage, not the long game.

Death & Taxes might be able to use it maindeck.

I clearly said they use it strictly as a companion, while this thread is about MD. Any storm game that hoes beyond turn 4 in my book is a long game. YMMV

OT - DEADGUY ALE! I knew i was forgetting something. 8-rack for lulz.

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
04-23-2020, 08:02 AM
Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger is pretty bad. It only stays if you escape it.

What, are your torpor orbs broken? :tongue:

FTW
04-23-2020, 09:11 AM
nah- you want it to go to the grave so you can recast it each turn with lurrus and make opponent discard and potentially lose 3 life.

If only it could do both that and deal combat damage at the same time

Megadeus
04-23-2020, 10:14 AM
What, are your torpor orbs broken? :tongue:

With sacrifice trigger on the attack use my sundial of the infinite to end the turn?

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
04-23-2020, 05:53 PM
With sacrifice trigger on the attack use my sundial of the infinite to end the turn?

That's more of a modern strategy: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/vexing-lurrus-torpor-titans-deck/