Secret Lair Crossover with The Walking Dead - time-limited new cards

[Barook]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/walking-dead-shambles-secret-lair-2020-09-28

Even if those cards are going to turn out garbage, it's only a matter of time until WotC fucks up and prints OP stuff - see: Nexus of Fate in Standard.

https://twitter.com/MTGSecretLair/status/1310600790491373569

Reprints are possible, but knowing WotC's reaction speed, that could take years.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjAvLKEWkAMUYcq?format=png&name=small https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjAvcfPXsAIoYit?format=png&name=small

[Zoid]

Given the amount of precedents they have created in the recent years for things they said in the past they would never do, I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing they do is even more brain damaged.
What could it be?
Dredge, Storm, or Delve back?
Fetches in Standard?

Might as well even give the reserved list the ol' viking funeral at this point.

It's scary how WotC has managed to be very close to it's customers and at the same time a million light years away.

Wouldn't be surprised if next year they are going to kill everything in favor of a commander and brawl league.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Given the amount of precedents they have created in the recent years for things they said in the past they would never do, I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing they do is even more brain damaged.
What could it be?
Dredge, Storm, or Delve back?
Fetches in Standard?

Might as well even give the reserved list the ol' viking funeral at this point.

It's scary how WotC has managed to be very close to it's customers and at the same time a million light years away.

Wouldn't be surprised if next year they are going to kill everything in favor of a commander and brawl league.

They brought back all 3 in MH1.
And I will bet you all these are unplayable and will only see action on an EDH table.
I also have a secret gelled belief that these are low-key kaldheim spoilers and when they actually arrive they'll have kaldheim alt names similar to ikoria and godzilla
Otherwise it's hard to count the number of sharks jumped recently.

[Fallen_Empire]

Has the peppa pig planeswalker dropped yet?

[ESG]

Has the peppa pig planeswalker dropped yet?

Hey, I thought you liked pigs.

https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/small/front/c/0/c0109b60-09aa-4a03-92e7-0c651d976d51.jpg

[Tylert]

the two cards are not good... but it's wotc, they're going to make a mistake someday and the price of a card only available in such a product will skyrocket...
so who's the executive who came up with such a good idea? (I guess it's the one who is responsible for short term money grabs)

[Cire]

I'm glad that Wizard's is printing these cards at the height of WD's popularity :rolleyes: - I expect GOT cards to be printed in five years :tongue:

[Zoid]

I'm glad that Wizard's is printing these cards at the height of WD's popularity :rolleyes: - I expect GOT cards to be printed in five years :tongue:

Just wait for the Action Man and Micromachines tie-ins.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

I'm glad that Wizard's is printing these cards at the height of WD's popularity :rolleyes: - I expect GOT cards to be printed in five years :tongue:

Just in time for the final book to be cancelled!

[Cire]

Glenn (https://www.reddit.com/r/MTGLegacy/comments/j21ure/glenn_the_voice_of_calm_unique_and_exclusive/)

Hopefully the most playable of these - thankfully I don't think it is good enough, but it is dangerously close.

[PirateKing]

This dude plus Jitte does offer lots of card draw options.
I'm not convinced it's a better 3CMC equipment holder than Mirran Crusader, but a maybe unblockable into drawing 5 cards is not nothing.
I anticipate somebody somewhere will try it.

[Hanni]

I can see this finding its way into a Bant Blade deck as a 1-of. The 3cc slot is already really clogged with better options, but it gets pumped from Hierarch and Jitte, and has the potential to draw multiple cards, so someone is likely to try it. Probably just worse than Cold-Eyed Selkie, since it can be grabbed with GSZ, but Skulk does make it better vs non-blue decks. Legendary means you can protect it with Karakas, and Bant has Wasteland for opposing Karakas, so I guess that's something. The fact that it doesn't attack past Coatl is a big deal, though.

[Fallen_Empire]

Hey, I thought you liked pigs.

https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/small/front/c/0/c0109b60-09aa-4a03-92e7-0c651d976d51.jpg

lol touché

[Humphrey]

https://sm.ign.com/t/ign_de/screenshot/default/coral-meme_fept.1280.jpg

[Fox]

Carl better have hexproof, otherwise we're gonna have to sit through people exasperated "CARL?!?" cries every time a removal spell comes his way

[Cire]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjGs0yiU4AAq8g8?format=jpg&name=900x900

Good - He's terrible. If Glenn is the best then we can rest easy :rolleyes:

[kombatkiwi]

You can play it with the Tarkir 2B enchantment that gives all tokens -2/-2 to draw 3 cards a turn, imba
edit: It works with Aether Flash too and you can combine it with his own ping ability to kill any X/4, and when your opponent's arcanist (zombie) dies you get to draw 1 as well

Antimeta Daryl Deck inc

[Mr. Safety]

Just wait for the Action Man and Micromachines tie-ins.

I want Sgt. Slaughter crossing over to GI Joe crossing over to Mtg NAOW!!!

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

Duel Decks: Sting vs The Undertaker

[Ronald Deuce]

Good - He's terrible. If Glenn is the best then we can rest easy :rolleyes:

Seems pretty solid with Defense of the Heart. Obviously probably only in Commander, but worth pointing out.

[Fox]

Seems pretty solid with Defense of the Heart. Obviously probably only in Commander, but worth pointing out.

Missed the boat a long time ago: Varchild’s War-Riders. The card you’re looking for is Rampaging Ferocidon to complete the Inquest “Killer Combo” with crossbow dude.

[Ronald Deuce]

Missed the boat a long time ago: Varchild’s War-Riders. The card you’re looking for is Rampaging Ferocidon to complete the Inquest “Killer Combo” with crossbow dude.

You're assuming I wouldn't run Varchild, the War Riders, and the new dude in the same deck. :D

[Humphrey]

i assume the walker tokens are okos?

[Zoid]

http://mythicspoiler.com/mtg/cards/ricksteadfastleader.jpg

Seems dangerously playable.
Would definitely be played in modern.

[HdH_Cthulhu]

Oh boy if you vial this guy in during combat!

Its by far the best "overrun" card for Humans.deck

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

http://mythicspoiler.com/mtg/cards/ricksteadfastleader.jpg

Seems dangerously playable.
Would definitely be played in modern.

I'm sure there are EDH decks that want it.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Missed the boat a long time ago: Varchild’s War-Riders. The card you’re looking for is Rampaging Ferocidon to complete the Inquest “Killer Combo” with crossbow dude.

Back when Brand was A Card.

[spirit of the wretch]

Missed the boat a long time ago: Varchild’s War-Riders. The card you’re looking for is Rampaging Ferocidon to complete the Inquest “Killer Combo” with crossbow dude.

You misspelled Aether Flash.
You're welcome.

[Fox]

You misspelled Aether Flash.
You're welcome.
If you’re going to play an overcosted Weatherlight card here, it’ll be Dingus Staff (will Illness in the Ranks).

[TsumiBand]

I just saw Tolarian Community College's video about this TWD set. Hadn't heard or seen anything about it because I just ain't play Magic much these days but it moves me enough to come and day what hot garbage this idea is.

I used to liken MtG to chess, where the majority of the game pieces were well under $20 USD and many were even under a dollar - but the rooks and bishops can be $100 or more. That analogy doesn't hold up under this approach though; *if* the product in limited time sets becomes staple to any format, you're now looking at a situation where rooks are only available for short periods of time and if you miss one, or live somewhere where rooks aren't sold, you might never acquire one.

There's a little bit of slippery slope to that argument, but it's well-supported by games that are collectible-adjacent. Who among us is unfamiliar with microtransactions in gaming? Lootboxes are everywhere, gacha gaming is the mobile way, EA requires no introduction - and Magic predicted this model by decades, in a way. Now it's been lapped by its progeny and its shareholders want to run and catch up. Limited availability products sold over a short period of time is a winning strategy if your sole motivator is money.

It's been hard for me to find the words to describe my discontent with Magic for quite a while now, but I think finally I can sum it up with this sentiment - the people creating Magic the Gathering have abdicated any responsibility for maintaining its ecosystem. This game is risking its social function by walling off its game pieces both financially and temporally. Pointing to pauper formats as a real alternative is the nerd version of "let them eat cake". The difference between saving for Legacy staples as a budget player, versus having the liquid assets to acquire Secret Lair sets with unique cards before they are no longer available, is self-evident. I hesitate to throw around terms like "classist" because this is a game we're talking about here - but let's be real, this is a fucking game we're talking about here. One kind of player will be able to acquire some rooks, the other kind will not. Nothing about this sits well with me.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

This reminds me of the comic bubble from the 90's where they were making limited super special collectable print runs of comics, but no one cared because Super Man No1 was only valuable because of its sentimental value and they're trying so hard to force the next alpha-beta level mtg colelctable and all it's doing is pissing off the fans.

[Barook]

First strike and vigilance make sense, but how does one acquire lifelink in a "real world" setting? Are people healing themselves by beating up other people? :laugh:

[the Thin White Duke]

I have an unhealthy obsession with collecting White cards and I think I need me some Rick. No way am I going to purchase this Drop, but damn. The corporate take over of Wizards seems complete. I think this may actually bode well for the abolition of the Reserve List. If Hasbro is indeed going to milk Magic for all it's worth, then they must cash in on reprinting everything. Legal action be damned!

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

First strike and vigilance make sense, but how does one acquire lifelink in a "real world" setting? Are people healing themselves by beating up other people? :laugh:

Beat good, feel good.

[HdH_Cthulhu]

Beat good, feel good.

I guess? I mean lifelink doesnt heal the humans themselves. It heals YOU.

But what are YOU?

[Cire]

Lol (https://twitter.com/orange_greg/status/1313336113159974919?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1313336113159974919%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fj5z5nd%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dtrue)

[H]

Still a O% percent chance I buy this trash unless it literally has Ancestral Recall in it.

[Barook]

So Glenn is doing some work in Vintage with 8 exalted creatures:

https://twitter.com/Gennair/status/1314670298885697536

VODs (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuKCwwybIAuedZGzf9IL0U5iNJMdqJGov)

[Zoid]

So Glenn is doing some work in Vintage with 8 exalted creatures:

https://twitter.com/Gennair/status/1314670298885697536

VODs (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuKCwwybIAuedZGzf9IL0U5iNJMdqJGov)

Haven't watched anything, but vintage fish has used Cold-Eyed Selkie for years now.
Is skulk that much better than islandwalk?
Can't imagine that 3 toughness makes the difference.

[Captain Hammer]

So Glenn is doing some work in Vintage with 8 exalted creatures:

https://twitter.com/Gennair/status/1314670298885697536

VODs (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuKCwwybIAuedZGzf9IL0U5iNJMdqJGov)

I would play atleast a couple of Dusk//Dawn in that list (both flavorful and powerful).

[kombatkiwi]

Haven't watched anything, but vintage fish has used Cold-Eyed Selkie for years now.
Is skulk that much better than islandwalk?
Can't imagine that 3 toughness makes the difference.

I guess 3 toughness + skulk is way better vs shops (no islands + ballista) and in other matchups it's approximately the same

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Rick made the 5-0 dump yesterday.
Excuse me while I sigh deeply.

[Reeplcheep]

Rick made the 5-0 dump yesterday.
Excuse me while I sigh deeply.

Tweet from the dude on how it played:
https://twitter.com/Yosoy_ez/status/1314315923608596480

IMO its worse than general kudro. However, its close enough and the meta is grindy enough that it is playable at least.