[40k] Cards for the card game: 40k spoilers ITT

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

The spoilers are upon us! Thank the emperor!
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/first-look-magic-gatherings-universes-beyond-warhammer-40000-collaboration
What we're getting:
4 Commander decks (with collector's editions, so 8)
Tyranid Swarm (green-blue-red)
Forces of the Imperium (white-blue-black)
Necron Dynasties (mono-black)
The Ruinous Powers (blue-black-red)
The Collector's Edition comes fully foiled with the never-before-seen special surge foil and has the same card content

https://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/vanguardsuppressor1.jpg

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

https://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/bloodforthebloodgod.jpg

[jmlima]

I thought 40k was the cost of each pack on this new set.

[Fox]

Why isn't the 40k stuff all sketch cards to allow for coloring?

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

I thought 40k was the cost of each pack on this new set.

Just the chase rares

[Severalny]

Looks sick! I am not a big fan of Warhammer 40K, but my brother is. he would love to get something like this for his birthday.
I will think about buying one of these sets. They are so cool that even I would like to have one even though I don't know what's happening in them and who these creatures and soldiers are. He told me something while we were playing one of these rummy games online (https://www.khelplayrummy.com/). Still, I remember nothing because my memory is sometimes like a black hole. It is especially the case with things that I don't fully understand.
But, again, thanks for sharing!

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1568328387650887681?t=YyMIRKhZjOMdR_5nAQ3Pqg&s=19
Next week they come

[H]

https://i.imgur.com/PTFG4Rz.jpeg

Ability here is neat, but it just costs too much.

That is the closest card to Legacy playable I think I've seen so far.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

https://i.imgur.com/PTFG4Rz.jpeg

Ability here is neat, but it just costs too much.

That is the closest card to Legacy playable I think I've seen so far.

Wow, I don't like Prismatic Omen either, but I wouldn't say it's "Hyper Toxic"

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

https://i.imgur.com/PTFG4Rz.jpeg

Ability here is neat, but it just costs too much.

That is the closest card to Legacy playable I think I've seen so far.

I still think Vanguard Supressor will see play.

Unrelated here's a hormagaunt:
http://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/hormagaunthorde.jpg

[Purple Blood]

If Squad was actual Storm then it could be a little bit easier to pull that off.

[H]

If Squad was actual Storm then it could be a little bit easier to pull that off.

Yeah, in a world of REBs and Pyroblasts, a four-mana Blue spell is going to be tough to pull off.

[Barook]

https://i.imgur.com/PTFG4Rz.jpeg

Ability here is neat, but it just costs too much.

That is the closest card to Legacy playable I think I've seen so far.
It's a potential GSZ target and manhandles all flying threats they can throw at you, plus it kills Saga.

You can also do the Blood Moon trick with it to get Marit Lage online. Use Fiend Artisan to tutor it up, play DD, then sac it to Artisan the next turn to create the 20/20 token.

[Zoid]

https://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/malanthrope.jpg

Poor man's Endurance.

https://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/ghyrsonstarnkelermorph.jpg

Probably shit but this guy feels like there could be enough janky interaction.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

https://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/malanthrope.jpg

Poor man's Endurance.


Doesn't even have flash :(

[Zoid]

Doesn't even have flash :(

These are hard times.

[PirateKing]

https://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/ghyrsonstarnkelermorph.jpg

Probably shit but this guy feels like there could be enough janky interaction.

My brain went immediately to Goblin Bombardment
Grixis pew-pew!

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

My brain went immediately to Goblin Bombardment
Grixis pew-pew!

Norrin the Wary + Impact tremors = Modern All star! (oh no it's eternal only)

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

http://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/trygonprime.jpg My pick for best new card. Either this or the Swarm.

Nyds were supposed to be the ramp deck, so we saw a lot of fun cards if you have a ton of mana, I don't think any of that translates well to legacy, the format where you need to have already won by then.

Today is Chaos day, their mechanic is Cascade. I'm not optimistic but it wouldn't surprise me if a low costed cascade spell snuck its way in.

[Goaswerfraiejen]

I quite like Toxicrene. Reach makes her an attractive one-of--not that that means it's particularly playable. But still, I like it.

[Purple Blood]

Norrin the Wary + Impact tremors = Modern All star! (oh no it's eternal only)

Throw in some Young Peezies for good measure.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

http://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/poxwalkers.jpg
I'm no dredgemage, but this seems really good?

[Zoid]

http://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/poxwalkers.jpg
I'm no dredgemage, but this seems really good?

Interesting yes but not good enough for a deck that has very few flex slots.
As you need dudes in play to cast stuff from your graveyard they seem kinda redundant.
Getting meat to sac is the harder struggle and none of them are cast so I suppose you want Amalgam over this.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Interesting yes but not good enough for a deck that has very few flex slots.
As you need dudes in play to cast stuff from your graveyard they seem kinda redundant.
Getting meat to sac is the harder struggle and none of them are cast so I suppose you want Amalgam over this.

I get what you're saying, but I think you're massively under evaluating the card if you're putting it under Amalgam.

[Zoid]

I get what you're saying, but I think you're massively under evaluating the card if you're putting it under Amalgam.

Care to elaborate?

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Care to elaborate?

Amalgam triggers once at the end of turn. This triggers every time. It can be used to pay for it's own trigger condition. It triggers on any spell, so anything with flashback. Anything that exiles and copies (so rebound). It is a much stronger card than amalgam. Plus its color weight is 2C instead of 1CC

[Whoshim]

It is almost certainly going to be run in Dredge in some number. I think it will also be run in Madness decks as well. For Dredge, LED --> flashback Faithless Looting will bring this into play. For Madness, Faithless Looting --> Walla and this.

[Zoid]

Amalgam triggers once at the end of turn. This triggers every time. It can be used to pay for it's own trigger condition. It triggers on any spell, so anything with flashback. Anything that exiles and copies (so rebound). It is a much stronger card than amalgam. Plus its color weight is 2C instead of 1CC

While I see that point, it heavily depends on the context.

Thinking about manaless dredge, only Gaak, Therapy and Dread Return trigger it.
All of them require you to already have creatures in play to do something.
For comparison, Amalgam triggers from:

Narcomoeba
Nether Shadow
Ichorid
Hogaak
Dread Return

Moeba, Shadow and Ichorid don't require dudes on the field.
It really depends on the problem you're building around.
Do you need more dudes fast or do you need initial meat to get going?

There might me more of a use case in LED dredge with flashback draw spells but those are also tight on slots.

Maybe there is a combo somewhere.
I was thinking it would work with Food Chain, but that deck doesn't need this at all.

[H]

Who wants to Tinker for Griselbrand?
https://i.imgur.com/vma8HKP.png

OK, I know, I was joking. But, still would be funny.


https://i.imgur.com/ifHqZnk.png
This card seems almost there for Legacy, but probably not.

[BirdsOfParadise]

Before any other synergies or build-around, that card gives you a 3/3 just for cracking a fetch.

What else?

Uro
Snapcaster Mage
Expressive Iteration
Elvish Reclaimer
Brazen Borrower
Crucible of Worlds
Cabal Therapy

It’s slow, but maybe there’s a deck with a sufficiently high density of payoffs to make it work. Reminds me of Titania, Protector of Argoth. It risks being clunky, but the upside is that the right deck gains an overwhelming army of tokens as a reward for just living life. A 3cc enchantment isn’t super easy to remove, either.

I think part of why I can’t build a good Legacy deck is that I find it hard to say no to cards like this.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Did Oghma make it?

[H]

https://i.imgur.com/SysIuhB.jpeg

This seems like a very powerful effect, getting around countermagic, plus most decks tend to board out Wastelands versus Reanimator. However, I am not sure it is worth the entering tapped and high mana cost to activate.

[rufus]

https://i.imgur.com/SysIuhB.jpeg

This seems like a very powerful effect, getting around countermagic, plus most decks tend to board out Wastelands versus Reanimator. However, I am not sure it is worth the entering tapped and high mana cost to activate.

MIll and immediate reanimation also dodges some kinds of GY hate, but I think the mana cost is going to be too much for reanimator, even as sideboard tech. It takes a long time to get to 6 lands.

[H]

MIll and immediate reanimation also dodges some kinds of GY hate, but I think the mana cost is going to be too much for reanimator, even as sideboard tech. It takes a long time to get to 6 lands.

Yeah, I mean, there are Dark Rituals, but still it is probably too much.

[rufus]

I doubt either of them will find legacy play, but...



Canoptek Scarab Swarm 4

Artifact Creature — Insect

Flying

Feeder Mandibles — When Canoptek Scarab Swarm enters the battlefield, exile target player’s graveyard. For each artifact or land card exiled this way, create a 1/1 colorless Insect artifact creature token with flying.
1/1


Seems like it has potential in something dredge-like.



Trazyn the Infinitea 4BB

Legendary Artifact Creature — Necron

Deathtouch

Prismatic Gallery — As long as Trazyn the Infinitea is on the battlefield, it has all activated abilities of all artifact cards in your graveyard.

The Archaeovist of the Solemnace Galleries will not rest until every treasure in the galaxy is safely within his clutches.
4/6


Can do Necrotic Ooze style combos with, e.g. Phyrexian Devourer and Walking Ballista, but Ooze is going to be better a lot of the time, or it's just bad reanimator.

[Watersaw]

Yeah, I mean, there are Dark Rituals, but still it is probably too much.

Being able to hide a combo piece on a land like that feels absurd, even with it coming in tapped.

It also combos with Brainstorm, in case anyone wanted to try UB

[rufus]

I'm curious about:



Atalan Jackal 1RG

Creature — Human Tyranid Scout

Trample, haste

Skilled Outrider — Whenever Atalan Jackal deals combat damage to a player, you may search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
2/2


The fantasy is dropping it on turn 2 off Ignoble Hierarch and then generating incremental ramp plus value. On the other hand, the P/T is pretty low for a 3 cost creature by today's standards.

[H]

Being able to hide a combo piece on a land like that feels absurd, even with it coming in tapped.

It also combos with Brainstorm, in case anyone wanted to try UB

If you want to be extra cute/funny, it combos with Standstill too.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Miracle and squad https://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/zephyrim.html

[Reeplcheep]

Scarab swarm seems mostly worse than Wurm Harvest, which is already only viable against the slowest of control shells.

[Zoid]

https://mythicspoiler.com/40k/cards/triumphofsaintkatherine.jpg

Would any deck want this?
I can't tell if it's good enough to be viable or not.

[Barook]

Two mana for a 5/5 lifelinker sounds pretty good, although you can't cast it before T3 in most cases. Question is how much library manipulation do you want to run alongside it to make the Miracle casting consistent?

[HdH_Cthulhu]

Kinda reminds me of Stoneforge Mystic.

So yeah i could see this in a Cawblade style deck.

But it doesnt really add anything new...

[rufus]

Two mana for a 5/5 lifelinker sounds pretty good, although you can't cast it before T3 in most cases. Question is how much library manipulation do you want to run alongside it to make the Miracle casting consistent?

Another aspect of that might be to pile on miracles. It seems like Triumph of Saint Catherine, Sister Repentia (also from the 40k set) and Temporal Mastery could all fit together in the same deck.



Sister Repentia 3WB
Creature — Human Warrior

Martyrdom — When Sister Repentia dies, you gain 2 life and draw two cards.

Miracle WB
5/1

[Reeplcheep]

It’s possible some sort of Esperblade shell could make it work. You have Witches Cottage as a very easy way to enable miracles after you get the first one.

[Zoid]

It’s possible some sort of Esperblade shell could make it work. You have Witches Cottage as a very easy way to enable miracles after you get the first one.

Isn't Volrath's Stronghold just better?
The Triumph at least recycles itself unless sworded.

At least both are Human but you probably have to go with the BS shell over Thalia/Chalice which sucks.
Probably something to cycle the miracle cards in your hands would be nice.

[Reeplcheep]

Isn't Volrath's Stronghold just better?
The Triumph at least recycles itself unless sworded.

At least both are Human but you probably have to go with the BS shell over Thalia/Chalice which sucks.
Probably something to cycle the miracle cards in your hands would be nice.

Volrath is better. But having every marsh flats and bloodstained mire be a volrath stronghold is very strong.

[Fox]

Volrath is better. But having every marsh flats and bloodstained mire be a volrath stronghold is very strong.

Dark Rit -> Doomsday -> put 4 of these 5/5 lifelinks in your pile. You even get back all the life Doomsday cost you. It's an upgrade to putting 4 Shadow in the pile that all lose to the same 1x Plow. :laugh:

[rufus]

Isn't Volrath's Stronghold just better?
...


No. Volrath's Stronghold does have the advantages of reliably coming into play untapped and being repeatable, but Witch's Cottage is a swamp so it produces B, is fetchable and has an effective cost of 0-1 mana instead of 3 to put the creature on top.

[snugar_i]

Btw - coincidence?

https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/0/8/08843909-8c24-4067-b747-5f9090caaa1c.jpghttps://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/a/2/a2c1a004-4d80-481b-8f3f-30cc362556bc.jpg