[BRO] My Brother in War, Are You Ready for Endless Previews?

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Spoilers. Spoilers never changes.
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[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Cards:
Teferi, Temporal Pilgrim
Urza, Lord High Protector
Gix, Ywgmoth Praetor
Herkyl, Master Wizard,
Ashnod, Flesh something
Saheeeli, Filgree Master

Warmachine Lands
https://i.imgur.com/U4EapRv.png

Recruitment officer is nuts
https://i.imgur.com/gyVC0tV.png

Factory was too strong.
https://i.imgur.com/lfd9mm3.png

That's a very powerful effect
https://i.imgur.com/Gean3g4.png

Meld is bck. MEELDED PLNESWLKER
https://i.imgur.com/DrvLEiB.png
https://i.imgur.com/wnEv60g.png
https://i.imgur.com/cnE9VBn.png

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

The Commandeer decks are all old frame
https://i.imgur.com/Ym4crP4.png
https://i.imgur.com/cfvwW6r.png

[PirateKing]

I'm kind of disappointed in seeing the Urza Planeswalker only because a cool fan theory in my circle of players was for the Brother's War story to play out how we'd expect until we reach the Sylex blast, and as the dust settles we're revealed to Mishra Planeswalker and it's a huge bait and switch that leads into some bizarro alternate history that then requires many sets to sort out and fix. Oh well.

[Zoid]

Perpetual spoiler season here we go I guess.

I wouldn't be surprised if Urza is the only instance of meld because it doesn't fit the story unless it's artifacts being merged with dedicated powerstones.

Admittedly, it has been at least 10 years since I've read the Brother's War but from what I remember, this doesn't seem to fit Kayla's description.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Perpetual spoiler season here we go I guess.

I wouldn't be surprised if Urza is the only instance of meld because it doesn't fit the story unless it's artifacts being merged with dedicated powerstones.

Admittedly, it has been at least 10 years since I've read the Brother's War but from what I remember, this doesn't seem to fit Kayla's description.

They said Mishra will Meld too.
We'll see it tuesday for m30 annoucements.

[Zoid]

They said Mishra will Meld too.
We'll see it tuesday for m30 annoucements.

https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/large/front/c/e/ce4630c3-bf8e-46ac-be68-f454c4ca1047.jpg?1562938613

Maybe it's a prank and he just melts.

[Barook]

Kayla's effect looks interesting, although having to wait a full turn for it to do anything and then eat the mana for that turn, too, is kinda iffy. In what deck would she realistically fit in? RW Painter?

[Zoid]

Cards:
Teferi, Temporal Pilgrim
...
Saheeli, Filgree Master

Also, wtf are these doing in here?

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Also, wtf are these doing in here?

They showed the art but not the cards
also they have an artifact maker and a time twister guy. Perfect for copying any cylixes you see and bringing doomsday machines into present day.
We cannot allow a doomsday gap!

[Zoid]

They showed the art but not the cards
also they have an artifact maker and a time twister guy. Perfect for copying any cylixes you see and bringing doomsday machines into present day.
We cannot allow a doomsday gap!

In a set that is just selling nostalgia to a demographic that isn't nostalgic for it, is inserting new shit reverse-nostalgia?
That's some Star Wars special edition level.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

In a set that is just selling nostalgia to a demographic that isn't nostalgic for it, is inserting new shit reverse-nostalgia?
That's some Star Wars special edition level.

OTOH: the story was always bad

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

I'm kind of disappointed in seeing the Urza Planeswalker only because a cool fan theory in my circle of players was for the Brother's War story to play out how we'd expect until we reach the Sylex blast, and as the dust settles we're revealed to Mishra Planeswalker and it's a huge bait and switch that leads into some bizarro alternate history that then requires many sets to sort out and fix. Oh well.

Well damn, now I’m pissed too

What you get for expecting interesting storytelling from Wizards tho

[Zoid]

OTOH: the story was always bad

The original Brother's War novel is actually fairly ok.
I also remember The Thran being good.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

The original Brother's War novel is actually fairly ok.
I also remember The Thran being good.

Do you remember your age at these times too?
Because that is more the reason why you think this.

[Zoid]

Do you remember your age at these times too?
Because that is more the reason why you think this.

As I said, it was at least 10 years ago so I was in my late teens, which might have contributed.
I have read the story until including the Odyssey after which I have lost interest.
Compared to the other books, I still though the Urza related stories were more interesting.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

As I said, it was at least 10 years ago so I was in my late teens, which might have contributed.
I have read the story until including the Odyssey after which I have lost interest.
Compared to the other books, I still though the Urza related stories were more interesting.

Only ten years ago? Kinda curious what in Innistrad made you want to read about antiquities.

[Zoid]

Only ten years ago? Kinda curious what in Innistrad made you want to read about antiquities.

OK might have been a bit more then 10 years ago.
Forgot that I'm getting old and the past few years felt like a moment and an eternity at the same time.
I got really into MTG and started playing competitively around 2008-9 maybe and just wanted to read the story as the old ones seemed more interesting than the new ones without an arc.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

I was doing the Enchant Wordle, and I realized just how much time I spent in this stupid game. For reference, I was into anime and Champs just came out.

[H]

Just a note that there is another preview stream tomorrow, October 4th. I forgot wat the start time is supposed to be, but I think it is relatively early morning US time.

[Zoid]

I have long since lost the ability to tell if everything is just shit posts now but this got me to snicker even though I don't understand it.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/452/149/c77.png

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

I have long since lost the ability to tell if everything is just shit posts now but this got me to snicker even though I don't understand it.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/452/149/c77.png

A black lady played a famous flute. While shaking her hips.
That's it. That's the outrage.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Also there was a host of new transformer cards which will be appearing in BRO but they all look bad and have a million lines of text so someone else will have to tell me if they're any good.
One of them almost went infinite with a dreadnought.

[TsumiBand]

A black lady played a famous flute. While shaking her hips.
That's it. That's the outrage.

Is this one an outrage post? I figured it was just silly, though she's been getting flak for playing an ancient flute or whatever. Maybe it's supposed to be commentary on what she thinks of antiquity idk

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Is this one an outrage post? I figured it was just silly, though she's been getting flak for playing an ancient flute or whatever. Maybe it's supposed to be commentary on what she thinks of antiquity idk

I'm explaining the reference for a poster who said they didn't get it.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Just a note that there is another preview stream tomorrow, October 4th. I forgot wat the start time is supposed to be, but I think it is relatively early morning US time.

https://youtu.be/g0P8xyU1j_w
Less than 14 minutes away.

[H]

Another silly Merge card:
https://i.imgur.com/DbJNwkt.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/39CMUCZ.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/EbBXdl5.jpeg

[Barook]

At least both pieces are reasonable costed, even though they don't look like Legacy material.

Edit: I have no idea why the Transformers were included in this set (and most of them suck), but this one looks interesting:

http://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/flamewarbrashveteran.jpghttp://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/flamewarstreetwiseoperative.jpg

Cheap, evasive and the combo of Menace + deathtouch generally leads to unfavorable trading. Sure, it needs other artifacts to take full advantage of its ability set, but with treasure/food tokens, it shouldn't be that hard in the right deck - or you just play Affinity instead.

[Pittplayer]

Another silly Merge card:
https://i.imgur.com/DbJNwkt.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/39CMUCZ.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/EbBXdl5.jpeg

Do his abilities trigger when coming into play AND for attacking? Meaning when you meld this, it comes into play attacking... is that one trigger for its abilities or two?

[snugar_i]

Do his abilities trigger when coming into play AND for attacking? Meaning when you meld this, it comes into play attacking... is that one trigger for its abilities or two?
Just one. "Attacks" means "is declared as an attacker during the Declare attackers step", this thing is directly put onto the battlefield attacking, so it doesn't count.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Do his abilities trigger when coming into play AND for attacking? Meaning when you meld this, it comes into play attacking... is that one trigger for its abilities or two?

His ability is actually pretty weird:
First the trigger condition is "when you attack" meaning, it doesn't have to include him. He just needs to see you declare at least one attacker The Normal Way.
Second the X part of the trigger isn't determined until resolution. So if you put tokens into play tapped and attacking, they will count.
Third the meld part, and this is where I'm actually unsure because I can't think of a singular trigger that's a partial intervening if, I think only cares at resolution if it's met. So yes you could put them into play tapped and attacking and trigger it because unlike a Valakut for example, this condition doesn't need to be true to trigger you might be able to get away with it.

E: Lol, i completely misunderstood your question: No. One trigger, because the meld side did not "attack".

[Gunseng]

Man, these merge cards piss me off so much. Why does Wizards use double faced cards again and again? They are a pain in actual paper play.

[rufus]

Man, these merge cards piss me off so much. Why does Wizards use double faced cards again and again? They are a pain in actual paper play.

I imagine they love publishing the "checklist cards" as advertising inside packs.

[rufus]

Another silly Merge card:
...Phyrexian Dragon Engine


It's mostly a worse Ox of Agonas but that triggered ability might find a home in some kind of deck that runs artifact reanimation like Goblin Engineer.

[H]

Some stuff from today's stream:
https://i.imgur.com/j6Tnn0h.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/fYaH0pD.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/u7yJq9d.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/LsRW7HH.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/mLbWmX0.jpeghttps://i.imgur.com/CCbVzt5.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/JgVRFgB.jpeg

[Zoid]

http://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/mishratamerofmakfawa.jpg

Meh?

https://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/phyrexianfleshgorger.jpg

In this spoiler season's episode of "Which kicker variant do we get this time?

[Barook]

With fetches, KotR, Elvish Reclaimer and GSZ, it should be pretty doable to achieve the Meld thing for Titania. Her base body of 3/4 reach is also a nice fuck you to Delver.

Edit: Prototype might be good with Blink effect.

[Zoid]

https://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/urzascommand.jpghttps://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/mishrascommand.jpghttps://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/kaylascommand.jpg

https://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/gixscommand.jpg



Gix's Command

3BB
Sorcery
Choose two -

· Put two +1/+1 counters on up to one creature. It gains lifelink until end of turn.

· Destroy each creature with power 2 or less.

· Return up to two creature cards from your graveyard to your hand.

· Each opponent sacrifices a creature with highest power among creatures they control.

The red one might be nice in Ruby Storm but the rest seems meh.

[Barook]

I like the white command - getting a plains and a 2/2 with some added flexibility isn't too bad.

http://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/thestonebrain.jpg

This card seems great against that rely heavily on a single card to win. I expect this to see heavy play in sideboards.

Can't wait to see a Welder deck completely dismantling an opponent's deck with it.

[Zoid]

I like the white command - getting a plains and a 2/2 with some added flexibility isn't too bad.

http://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/thestonebrain.jpg

This card seems great against that rely heavily on a single card to win. I expect this to see heavy play in sideboards.

Can't wait to see a Welder deck completely dismantling an opponent's deck with it.

It's not even decks that rely on a single card.
Since it's repeatable you can pick out the major threats from decks that only run a few different ones.
Murktide -> Delver -> DRC
This punishes everything that doesn't have diverse threats.

NVM can't read :)

https://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/drafnafounderoflatnam.jpg

This guy seems pretty bonkers with Paradox Engine.


https://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/soulpartition.jpg

This also seems like some solid value trick.

[Barook]

It's not even decks that rely on a single card.
Since it's repeatable you can pick out the major threats from decks that only run a few different ones.
Murktide -> Delver -> DRC
This punishes everything that doesn't have diverse threats.
Stompy decks being to able to get it online as early as T2 is also huge.

Edit: Nevermind, it exiles itself as part of the cost. So you would need Karn for looping it. Still nice in multiples, though.

[Zoid]

Stompy decks being to able to get it online as early as T2 is also huge.

As for recursion, Emry should be able to do a good job as well.

NVM, I'm stupid and missed that it exiles itself.....

[Barook]

http://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/scholarofnewhorizons.jpg

After seeing the interaction between Power Conduit and The Restoration of Eiganjo/Urza's Saga in a new Modern deck today, I wonder if this new card allows the deck to reach critical mass. Aside from redunancy, the Plains fetching also allows to feed stage 2 of Restoration for more recursion. Keeping Saga around while being able to search for an artifact every turn is definitely nice. So the ideal sequence would be.

T1: Saga
T2: Scholar
T3: third Saga trigger, remove counter in response, grab Plains, grab artifact from Saga, play your Plains, create token with Saga
Rinse and repeat every turn while keep hitting your land drops.

For what it's worth, it can also eat (excess) Vial counters to turn them into Plains.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Can't wait to see a Welder deck completely dismantling an opponent's deck with it.

It exiles itself, so your Karn Deck is going to be the one that recurs it. But also your Karn Deck should stop playing with its food and cast the lattice already

[rufus]

[....
After seeing the interaction between Power Conduit and The Restoration of Eiganjo/Urza's Saga in a new Modern deck today, I wonder if this new card allows the deck to reach critical mass. ....

Thrull Parasite and Hex Parasite have been around for a while.

[Barook]

Thrull Parasite and Hex Parasite have been around for a while.
Sure, but those suck and cost life. This one actually generates CA while doing its thing.

[BirdsOfParadise]

Soul Diviner has also been around for a while and gives cards instead of Plains, but the new card starts with a counter.

[snugar_i]

Soul Diviner has also been around for a while and gives cards instead of Plains, but the new card starts with a counter.
Soul Diviner was explicitly worded to not work with Sagas though, while this new card does - not sure if it was intentional or they messed up.

[Barook]

Soul Diviner has also been around for a while and gives cards instead of Plains, but the new card starts with a counter.
Being able to work with itself is huge, plus the casting cost is way easier.

Another potential line could be on T3:

Recruiter for Scholar, Vial it in @2, the proceed to feed it Vial counters starting at T4 (or T5 while using its own counter on T4 if you want to keep your Vial @3)

How good this is needs to be seen in playtesting since it does nothing on its own the turn it ETBs, but since the deck is already running Vials and Sagas anyway, it might have potential in Yorion D&T where you can actually use the mana. Besides, you can also run Currency Converter as a Saga target to turn the Plains into actual cards if you want to grind some more.

New card:
http://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/loranofthethirdpath.jpg

White Rec Sage that's Karakas bouncable and has a fancy combo with Spirit of the Labyrinth. What's not to love?

[H]

Contrasted with Rest in Peace, at least this doesn't get hit by Force of Vigor?
https://i.imgur.com/GJygLLM.png

A little utility compared to Meltdown, but higher cost:
https://i.imgur.com/DasZg7i.png

[H]

One way to stop yourself from getting Wastelanded:
https://i.imgur.com/nf554ER.jpeg

Also could be funny to fetch a Cloudpost with a Prismatic Vista.

[Barook]

It also turns off all Blood Moon effects. Useful when there are multiple ones one the field. Price of Progress also does nothing to you with it on the field.

Neat effect, but pretty darn expensive at 4 mana.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

One way to stop yourself from getting Wastelanded:
https://i.imgur.com/nf554ER.jpeg

Also could be funny to fetch a Cloudpost with a Prismatic Vista.

Rampant growth into Marit Lage

[BirdsOfParadise]

Soul Diviner was explicitly worded to not work with Sagas though, while this new card does - not sure if it was intentional or they messed up.
I totally thought Urza’s Saga was an artifact while I was typing that.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

That's ok, diviner can pull off lands.
But being UB means you can't curve into it with Urza's Saga.

[rufus]

...
Neat effect, but pretty darn expensive at 4 mana.

If it sees play, then I imagine that it's going into a deck with lots of rampy stuff.

[Cire]

https://media.mtgsalvation.com/attachments/178/54/638028107820912114.png

Would welder like this?

[Barook]

If it sees play, then I imagine that it's going into a deck with lots of rampy stuff.
I wonder if there's any dumb combo with Scouting Trek. And by that I mean something cheaper than Cultivator Colossus.

Edit: There's Treasure Hunt, I guess.

[phonics]

I wonder if there's any dumb combo with Scouting Trek. And by that I mean something cheaper than Cultivator Colossus.

Edit: There's Treasure Hunt, I guess.

I remember watching a brew that used scouting trek + Clear the land to ramp like 10 years ago.

[snugar_i]

I totally thought Urza’s Saga was an artifact while I was typing that.
You have a point there - it's not an artifact, but it's a land and Soul Diviner does work with those.

[HdH_Cthulhu]

Would welder like this?

Yes. Even if you cant use the creatures you sheoldred back - the sac 3 part is really great!

[rufus]

I wonder if there's any dumb combo with Scouting Trek. And by that I mean something cheaper than Cultivator Colossus.

Edit: There's Treasure Hunt, I guess.

I would expect land-based stuff like Valakut, Field of the Dead or Marit Lage. For those, Rootpath Purifier turns ramp spells into combo pieces.

[Barook]

http://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/urzasworkshop.jpg

Not too sure what to think about this one.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fgfni5mWIAQI4cz?format=png&name=small

Not sure if this is any good, but dumping a bunch of Dryad Arbors into play sounds like an interesting concept, at the very least.

[PirateKing]

Urza's Saga doesn't stick around long enough to do anything mega bonkers and this isn't Modern where tron has a place.
Might do some 12-post impressions, but there's already 12-post for that

[TheInfamousBearAssassin]

Urza's Saga doesn't stick around long enough to do anything mega bonkers and this isn't Modern where tron has a place.
Might do some 12-post impressions, but there's already 12-post for that

Pretty sure this makes it significantly better than the Cloudpost deck. Not having to wait a turn to use your lands is big.

[Purple Blood]

Metalcraft isn't just flavor text. Most Cloudpost lists would majorly struggle (i.e. almost never) to have it enabled. It would be a completely different deck if you run Tron. Tron also suffers because its more affected by Wasteland taking you off Tron.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Metalcraft isn't just flavor text. Most Cloudpost lists would majorly struggle (i.e. almost never) to have it enabled. It would be a completely different deck if you run Tron. Tron also suffers because its more affected by Wasteland taking you off Tron.

Leaving your maps uncracked is actually a winning formula!

[HdH_Cthulhu]

Also blind needle on wasteland just in case :D

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

Also blind needle on wasteland just in case :D

This is smart though

[BirdsOfParadise]

I think that card with all the dryads is the time I've seen a proofreading fail on an actual card (missing period in flavor text). They've always been good at avoiding those. Maybe they'll fix it before print.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

I think that card with all the dryads is the time I've seen a proofreading fail on an actual card (missing period in flavor text). They've always been good at avoiding those. Maybe they'll fix it before print.
It seems fine in English

[Whoshim]

I think that card with all the dryads is the time I've seen a proofreading fail on an actual card (missing period in flavor text). They've always been good at avoiding those. Maybe they'll fix it before print.

First, sorry about the size, but I wasn't sure how to make the images below smaller. Any help with that would be great. Thanks.

I don't know if they changed it before printing it, but Dominaria United's Llanowar Greenwidow's extended art has an issue (tapped. tapped.):

https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/8/2/8236d62a-bce3-4c5d-8224-f717188e34c9.jpg?1663055392

Audacity from this set (Brothers' War) also has an issue (draw card):

https://cards.scryfall.io/large/front/4/0/40b0813a-38cf-4a07-81d6-91d24af8b549.jpg?1667290119

[Wrath of Pie]

Draw card is clearly Wizards continuing its theme of actually assuming players are smart. Why else would they remove mana pool references?

[Barook]

http://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/haywiremite.jpg

Looks like a good Saga target if you can generate the green.

http://mythicspoiler.com/brw/cards/skystrikeofficer.jpg

I didn't pay much attention to it before until somebody pointed out that it's essentially a blue Rabblemaster variant. No haste, but evasion and the ability to generate further CA.

[rufus]

...

I didn't pay much attention to it before until somebody pointed out that it's essentially a blue Rabblemaster variant. No haste, but evasion and the ability to generate further CA.

I was intrigued too, but I suspect that the virtual ETB that Rabblemaster gets for producing a token on the turn that it hits the table is a pretty big difference in practice, and that this guy would have to do something more combo-ish with the second ability to be viable.

[Cire]

Arcane Proxy 7
Artifact Creature - Wizard
Prototype [1UU 2/1] (You may cast this spell with different mana cost, color, and size. It keeps its abilities and types.)
When Arcane Proxy enters the battlefield, if you cast it, exile target instant or sorcery card with mana value less than or equal to Arcane Proxy's power from your graveyard. Copy that card. You may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.
4/3

More expensive than snapcaster but can cast no mana spells like living end.

Clay Champion X4
Artifact Creature - Construct
Clay Champion enters the battlefield with three +1/+1 counters on it for each GG spent to cast it.
When Clay Champion enters the battlefield, choose up to two other target creatures you control. For each WW spent to cast Clay Champion, put a +1/+1 counter on each of them.
2/2

This is dumb but GGGG gets you a 8/8

[PirateKing]

Arcane Proxy doesn't have flash which probably relegates it to Modern. Even then they'd probably stick to trying to get instant speed off Violent Outburst or whatever they do over there.

[rufus]

Arcane Proxy doesn't have flash which probably relegates it to Modern. Even then they'd probably stick to trying to get instant speed off Violent Outburst or whatever they do over there.

I wonder if there's a useful way for it to share a deck with Shardless Agent.

[FourDogsinaHorseSuit]

I wonder if there's a useful way for it to share a deck with Shardless Agent.

Well it's 7 in the deck, so the two aren't in conflict.
But it's style is closer to Finale of Promise