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Phasmoid
10-01-2022, 05:42 AM
On the battlefield, there is

Brutal Suppression
and
at least one nontoken creature with a ​ "sacrifice a creature" ​ activated ability
https://scryfall.com/search?q=type%3ACreature+oracle%3A%22%3A%22+oracle%3A%22the+sacrificed+creature%22&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
whose effect refers to something about ​ "the sacrificed creature"
and
something making the at least one nontoken creature
https://scryfall.com/search?q=oracle%3A%22creature+type%22+%28oracle%3A%22are+the+chosen%22+OR+oracle%3A%22control+is+the+chosen%22%29&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name
with such an activiated ability into a Rebel

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To activate such an ability, a player sacrifices 2 creatures, one of which is also a land.
Crackling Emergence ​ , ​ Harmonious Emergence

Does the effect count both creatures, or just the one sacrificed for
"sacrifice a creature" ​ ​ ​ and not the one sacrificed for ​ ​ ​ "sacrifice a land" ​ ?


If it counts both, then

Would Geralf, Visionary Stitcher make 1 token each, or ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ edit: ​ I corrected the numbers here.
1 token total, with X equal to the sum of their toughnesses? ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ (I was thinking of a different card when I typed them before.)

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FourDogsinaHorseSuit
10-01-2022, 12:16 PM
I'm pretty sure you're over thinking it and it makes 1 token equal to the the toughness of the the creature you sacrificed to Geralf, not to brutal suppression.
Phasmoid
10-01-2022, 01:05 PM
4 tokens ​ vs ​ 2 tokens ​ ​ ​ was due to me getting Geralf, Visionary Stitcher mixed up with a different card.
I'm guessing you think your answer remains correct after my change to ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ 2 tokens ​ vs ​ 1 token ​ ​ ​ ,
but even if you don't, it might remain correct anyway ^_^, which brings up a related question:

If Suppression Field and Vazi, Keen Negotiator are both on the battlefield, can an opponent avoid an activated ability
triggering Vazi by spending Treasure mana for Suppression Field rather than for the activated ability's source?
FourDogsinaHorseSuit
10-01-2022, 01:53 PM
4 tokens ​ vs ​ 2 tokens ​ ​ ​ was due to me getting Geralf, Visionary Stitcher mixed up with a different card.
I'm guessing you think your answer remains correct after my change to ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ ​ 2 tokens ​ vs ​ 1 token ​ ​ ​ ,
but even if you don't, it might remain correct anyway ^_^, which brings up a related question:

If Suppression Field and Vazi, Keen Negotiator are both on the battlefield, can an opponent avoid an activated ability
triggering Vazi by spending Treasure mana for Suppression Field rather than for the activated ability's source?

No.
Vazi doesn't care which costs your paying with treasures only that you are. This includes suppression fields additional only.
E: yeah I thought you had the wrong card. I'm to lazy to look it up but I think you're thinking of Gissa and Geralf? Or just Gissa who makes x 2/2s?
FTW
10-03-2022, 03:08 PM
To activate such an ability, a player sacrifices 2 creatures, one of which is also a land.
Crackling Emergence ​ , ​ Harmonious Emergence

Does the effect count both creatures, or just the one sacrificed for
"sacrifice a creature" ​ ​ ​ and not the one sacrificed for ​ ​ ​ "sacrifice a land" ​ ?

Just 1. The one sacrificed for "sacrifice a creature", not both.

"the sacrificed creature" is a pointer referring to the first object. It does not reference ANY or ALL creatures sacrificed.

If it read "creature X 1/1 tokens where X is the sacrificed creature's toughness", it would only work for one of the creatures sacrificed. It ignores the one sacrificed for Brutal Suppression. The controller gets to choose which is sacrificed for which purpose.