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Zoid
07-29-2023, 11:44 AM
Sorry for not being able to come up with a better pun.

We got a first look (https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/a-first-look-at-wilds-of-eldraine) as well as some animu cardus (https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/fairy-tale-plane-anime-borderless-confetti-foil-cards-wilds-of-eldraine).

https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/ashiokwickedmanipulatorp.jpghttps://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/talionthekindlylord.jpghttps://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/moonshakercavalry.jpg
https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/cruelsomnophagep.jpghttps://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/restlessfortress.jpghttps://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/toughcookie.jpg

TheInfamousBearAssassin
08-04-2023, 11:18 PM
Welp none of these are playable

Barook
08-12-2023, 07:38 PM
A bunch of cards got spoiled. Here some interesting ones:

http://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/scaldingviper.jpg

Alot depends on whether it has toughness of 1 or not to survive Bowmasters. Sorcery speed also makes it worse than Petty Theft.

http://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/strokeofmidnight.jpg

Looks like a good removal spell for white (Stompy) decks.

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
08-12-2023, 08:13 PM
It's a 2/1

Zoid
08-12-2023, 08:28 PM
https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/ragingbattlemouse.jpg

This doesn't look to terrible but is probably not good enough for anything.

Not sure about the tone of the set as it seems like some "Un"-cards have slipped in:

https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/foodfight.jpghttps://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/asinineantics.jpg

Wrath of Pie
08-12-2023, 09:06 PM
Update the thread title with more Asinine Antics, that card name is excellent

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
08-12-2023, 09:35 PM
I hope this doesn't awaken anything in me

Zoid
08-14-2023, 05:46 AM
https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/beseechthemirror.jpg


Beseech the Mirror
1BBB
Sorcery
Bargain

Search your library for a card, exile it face down, then shuffle. If this spell was bargained, you may cast the exiled card without paying its mana cost if that spell's mana value is 4 or less. Put the exiled card into your hand if it wasn't cast this way.

Cast with saccing a mox gives you a PiF or Tendrils directly.


https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/sleepcursedfaerie.jpg


Sleep-Cursed Faerie
U
Creature - Faerie Wizard
Flying, ward 2

Sleep-Cursed Faerie enters the battlefield tapped with three stun counters on it. (If it would become untapped, remove a stun counter from it instead.)

1U: Untap Sleep-Cursed Faerie.

Quite mana hungry but Ward {2} is strong.

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
08-14-2023, 08:07 AM
It takes 7 mana to have it enter and attack the next turn. 3 stun is just too much unless you have some way of eating those counters. Soul Diviner? Dress Down? Chisei Heart of Oceans?

Zoid
08-14-2023, 03:06 PM
It takes 7 mana to have it enter and attack the next turn. 3 stun is just too much unless you have some way of eating those counters. Soul Diviner? Dress Down? Chisei Heart of Oceans?

Ah, I thought stun only worked for the untap step not every untap.
Yeah then you need something to make it work.

Nesting Grounds and move the stun counter on your opponents lands?
Is Suncleanser viable in any context?
Heartless Act seems too bad.
For max lulz:
Tekuthal, Inquiry Dominus
Tayam, Luminous Enigma

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
08-14-2023, 04:32 PM
Aether Snap keeps winning.

Barook
08-14-2023, 04:57 PM
Aside from combo pieces, Beseech the Mirror could also grab Sheoldred, Karn and other value cards.

Definitely a card to look out for.

Edit: Apparently you can use Gaea's Will as Yawgwin with Beseech the Mirror. (https://twitter.com/Jax_mtg/status/1691352548001648640/photo/1)

rufus
08-15-2023, 03:38 PM
...
Edit: Apparently you can use Gaea's Will as Yawgwin with Beseech the Mirror. (https://twitter.com/Jax_mtg/status/1691352548001648640/photo/1)

It could also hit 1-of hate pieces or something like Wheel of Fate, and, at cmc 4 it's compatible with the cascade suite.

Barook
08-15-2023, 05:29 PM
http://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/syrgingerthemealender.jpg

This one looks interesting. It can assassinate Planeswalkers and seems custom-made for Hardened Scales decks.

Zoid
08-15-2023, 06:33 PM
http://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/syrgingerthemealender.jpg

This one looks interesting. It can assassinate Planeswalkers and seems custom-made for Hardened Scales decks.

Also works well with Mystic Forge.

https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/ratout.jpg

Funny card that also gives you a token to tribute and kills Thalia.

TheInfamousBearAssassin
08-15-2023, 09:24 PM
Also works well with Mystic Forge.

https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/ratout.jpg

Funny card that also gives you a token to tribute and kills Thalia.

I feel like there’s a better way to kill Thalia for two mana in black while getting a token

Zoid
08-17-2023, 08:57 AM
https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/likenesslooter1.jpg

This guy seems faerly useful.
Flying Dreadnoughts + looting seems good.


Siphon Ego
B
Sorcery
Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. Then exile a card from your hand if you don't control a Faerie.

That might also be ok.

Fox
08-17-2023, 09:35 AM
https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/likenesslooter1.jpg

This guy seems faerly useful.
Flying Dreadnoughts + looting seems good.

While better than Lazav vs Karakas and Surgical target Dreadnought, this card comes in a color that has no playable turn 1 threats since the banning of DRS <-this is far and away the main problem with black going on for years (for every deck not derived from Zombardment, which has Stitcher's and Gravecrawler).

This creates a number of downstream problems as a 2-shot Dreadnought deck takes on a massive slow down while opponents develop mana and see more removal spells. Even if you get 1 hit in, you don't have enough damage coming from other angles - you still need to do the Dreadnought thing again. While slowing down you also pick up losses to Daze and the inability to trade with DRC/Delver.

These problems all precede just how awful this is vs 40% Bowmaster format.

If you're thinking about this card, play JVP or Azcanta. If you're thinking about any of those 3, play Scroll of Fate.

FTW
08-17-2023, 06:39 PM
https://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/beseechthemirror.jpg

So you can cast Doomsday from Library for 1 more mana, instead of having to tutor/dig into it.
8x Doomsday.dec

Valid sacrifice fodder includes: Baleful Strix, Bowmasters Army token, Mox (after tapping it for mana)...

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
08-17-2023, 07:20 PM
Start running darksteel citadel

Fox
08-18-2023, 01:29 PM
UR playable version of Creeping Tar Pit. ETB tapped, taps for U/R. UR to animate to 2/1 flying (if your turn first strike), when it attacks scry 1. Restless Spire.

Edit: does not fly.

FTW
08-21-2023, 05:13 PM
It takes 7 mana to have it enter and attack the next turn. 3 stun is just too much unless you have some way of eating those counters. Soul Diviner? Dress Down? Chisei Heart of Oceans?

Dress Down works (enters with 0 counters), but then next turn it attacks for 9 too little.

Hex Parasite should eat the counters?

It's not a matter of "can we enable this?" but "is it worth enabling?". Payoff is too low.

Barook
08-22-2023, 06:11 PM
http://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/courtofardenvale.jpghttp://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/courtofvantress.jpghttp://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/courtoflocthwain.jpghttp://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/courtofembereth.jpghttp://mythicspoiler.com/woe/cards/courtofgarenbrig.jpg

New Court cycle

FourDogsinaHorseSuit
08-22-2023, 06:39 PM
The white one seems like it's own combo.
The black one I like with the existing cycle... Which I always thought was good enough, but...

Fox
08-22-2023, 08:46 PM
Candy Trail: :1: Saga target. ETB scry 2. pay :2: tap and sac to draw 1 and gain 3. Believe it or not, this is the best lifegain spell pure UR has ever had. :cool:

FTW
08-22-2023, 11:18 PM
The white court looks abusable in UWx control, Parfait, and DeadGuy.

For control, bringing back Teferi/Narset/Kaya/Snapcaster/Staff/Bowmasters/Standstill/Saga/Wasteland seems much more relevant than making a 1/1 token (Court of Grace). I can't believe it doesn't say "nonland". It's Sevinne's Reclamation on a stick, with a Monarch trigger. The failcase of returning to hand is still strong.

The red one might find a home in Moon Stompy. It has a lot of competition at 4-5 mana, but Monarch + token engine is pretty good.

rufus
08-23-2023, 12:03 AM
The white court looks abusable in UWx control, Parfait, and DeadGuy.
...

It's cute with Solitary Confinement.

Barook
08-23-2023, 07:12 AM
The white court looks abusable in UWx control, Parfait, and DeadGuy.

For control, bringing back Teferi/Narset/Kaya/Snapcaster/Staff/Bowmasters/Standstill/Saga/Wasteland seems much more relevant than making a 1/1 token (Court of Grace). I can't believe it doesn't say "nonland". It's Sevinne's Reclamation on a stick, with a Monarch trigger. The failcase of returning to hand is still strong.

The red one might find a home in Moon Stompy. It has a lot of competition at 4-5 mana, but Monarch + token engine is pretty good.
The cool part about bringing Saga back in your upkeep is that you immediately get back to two counters on the same turn.

FTW
08-23-2023, 08:01 AM
The Saga trick looks good.


It's cute with Solitary Confinement.

Court's ability targets, so it can't directly loop a Solitary Confinement (hasn't been sacrificed yet at beginning of upkeep).

If you somehow lose the Monarch under Confinement, you could return something else to hand and then discard it to Confinement over and over. If you're the Monarch, that draw fuels Confinement, then Court can return discarded permanents to the battlefield.

Zoid
08-23-2023, 09:02 AM
The Saga trick looks good.



Court's ability targets, so it can't directly loop a Solitary Confinement (hasn't been sacrificed yet at beginning of upkeep).

If you somehow lose the Monarch under Confinement, you could return something else to hand and then discard it to Confinement over and over. If you're the Monarch, that draw fuels Confinement, then Court can return discarded permanents to the battlefield.

Well, it works if you have 2 confinements so you can cycle them :)

At least it makes the window in which the opponent can steal your monarch quite small as you'll get the confinement back next upkeep.

When in doubt you can always recur a Spore Frog.

Barook
09-06-2023, 09:25 AM
Mono B Helm with 4x Beseech the Mirror took down Legacy Masters last weekend (https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=47323&f=LE)

That decklist looks really good and has quite a few ways to Bargain (Saga, Saga tokens, Vault, Bowmaster tokens, cheap artifacts, excess Leylines). IGG as Beseech target is especially brutal with a Voidwalker or Leyline in play. And given how it works, you can use IGG to get your Beseech and sac material back afterwards to find your win-con. That sounds pretty strong.

PirateKing
09-06-2023, 09:29 AM
I was running the list last night, being able to Beseech for the sideboard Damnation to clear a Collector Ouphe plus miscellaneous threats against Maverick and unlock the win was a highlight of the match

FTW
09-08-2023, 08:16 AM
The Beseech tech looks really strong. It can run 1-of Helm (reduce bad draws) and still have consistent access to the combos.

Paying 1BBB and being able to cast either Helm, Karn (for 2nd Helm or Bridge), IGG (Mind Twist + reload tutor), Sheoldred, Leyline, or Damnation - without paying any additional mana - is extremely strong. As long as you can Bargain, it's more efficient than banned Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, or Imperial Seal.

Court of Locthwain might be a nice backup 1-of for that deck, in case there's too much hate for Helm combo.

PirateKing
09-08-2023, 08:59 AM
After playing more games and more variants, not sure if it's my personal preference, but Beseech into Gaea's Will seems underwhelming. It can be crazy fast but is very fragile. Lots of bottlenecks that a single counterspell can wreak and almost always autoloses to Surgical. That deck is fun to goldfish but doesn't offer anything new to storm decks in terms of potential explosiveness or resiliency in the face of opposing spells.

The real winner is the black Karn decks. Any deck heavy in black that already had an established gameplan of A+B+whatever can benefit from a random "I win" topdeck plus access to a multitude of 1-of sideboard spells for games 2 & 3. Court of Locthwain is a good pickup, I'm just wondering how long until the shell is established before you can start including greedy uncastable 4 drops like Humility or Minsc and Boo for the spicy juke postboard.