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Oberyn89
10-30-2006, 03:55 PM
I've been playing this deck for a lot of time, and it was pretty good since the last year in my meta (i'm italian). Now with a lot of pithing needle, tormod's cript, the black leyn, planar void and withered wretch in my opponent's side i'm not sure to win as in the past. Here is a list in wich i've tried to resolve some of troubles this deck had an still has.

// Lands
6 [UNH] Forest
3 [ON] Windswept Heath
3 [ON] Wooded Foothills
1 [UNH] Mountain
4 [A] Tropical Island
1 [A] Taiga

// Creatures
1 [JU] Anger
4 [B] Birds of Paradise
1 [PS] Flametongue Kavu
1 [JU] Genesis
1 [ON] Goblin Sharpshooter
1 [UD] Masticore
1 [AP] Mystic Snake
2 [VI] Quirion Ranger
1 [ON] Ravenous Baloth
1 [UD] Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1 [LE] Seedborn Muse
1 [PY] Spore Frog
2 [MM] Squee, Goblin Nabob
4 [TE] Tradewind Rider
3 [MI] Wall of Roots
1 [EX] Wood Elves
4 [GP] Tin Street Hooligan

// Spells
4 [IA] Brainstorm
4 [AL] Force of Will
4 [EX] Survival of the Fittest

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 4 [DK] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [WL] Gaea's Blessing
SB: 4 [TE] Chill


Card discussion:

Lands

I'm scared about wasteland, so i'm playing a lot of non wastable lands, even a basic mountain. But i feel the tropical island not removable, simply because is they waste mi blue mana i still got BoP.

Non creature spell

Force is quiet a must if you play blue, i decided to put it in because i need a counter to opposite to somethings like humilty or cataclysm for example. They are supported by 9 other blue cards, not so much i suppose.
Brainstorm is there to be pitched and to be casted trying to catch a soft.

Creature

The only new entry are the 4 Tin Street Hooligan. Why? I really need them in maindeck for some reason: great vs affinity, jitte, pithing maindeck and crucible of worlds. You don't play all this cards? Better for me, they can still beat you :wink: .

Side

Pithing vs all animated lands, pernicious deed, disk, combo deck and other stuff. Tormod vs grow, reanimate, iggy pop &co. Blessing 3x, so if you draw one of this you can still stop a solidarity. Chill vs goblin, the deck to beat at this time.

Comments

The deck is soft dipendent to play well, but with a lucky topdeck you can win even without it. Is this problem solvable without the fourth color? I think no.
Let's examine our matchups:

Goblin vs ATS 60/40 post side 40/60 not the better i suppose
Rifter vs ATS 80/20 post side 80/20 simply you cannot win, unuseful trying to side somenthings for this matchup
Solidarity vs ATS 80/20 post side 20/80 got 3 blessing man
Zoo vs ATS 35/65 post side 30/70 we got good blockers and main deck hooligans
Grow vs ATS 55/45 post side 40/60 again good blockers plus hooligans and tormod

Some opinion about this deck? How to improve it? I think it's a tier2 but a really good one. Of course you cannot win all the matchups but there are some very good for us. It can say its own or not?

Blair Phoenix
10-30-2006, 04:39 PM
You severly underestimate Solidarity if you think Gaea's Blessing stops them.

FallenOmnipotent
10-30-2006, 04:51 PM
I agree with Blair. There's a reason most decks don't run 3 blessing. Good solidarity players will be able to play around them. What often happens is they let the blessing go on the stack, mill Brain freeze you again, then Stroke of Genius you for w/e needed. Of corse there are a lot of other ways they can do it, but that's generally what happens.

Complete_Jank
10-30-2006, 06:57 PM
So, this is discussing a deck that can't win vs the top three decks, or four if you count Iggy.

This is why there is discussion on the future of Survival. Clearly old versions of Survival decks can't compete.