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DownSyndromeKarl
01-08-2010, 12:23 AM
you either have enormous hand, or that card is miniature.

mossivo1986
01-08-2010, 12:30 AM
you know what they say about big hands.

MMogg
01-08-2010, 12:34 AM
you know what they say about big hands.

http://img.moronail.net/img/3/2/2132.jpg

Atwa
01-08-2010, 02:10 AM
Very nice Moxes.

I have 2 now and want to complete the playset. I must say getting Korean cards is pretty hard. Esspecially when you normally don't trade much, I don't have a network.

Brot_Ohne_Kruste
01-08-2010, 05:44 PM
Here are pictures taken from my deck:

The destroying part:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8803/cimg0190e.jpg

The support and wincondition:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8420/cimg0191j.jpg

The lands with the super sexy wb Revised duals:
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8057/cimg0192r.jpg

The Sideboard:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/536/cimg0193t.jpg


Next steps in pimping the deck:
- turn the two japanese Mox Diamonds into T-chinese ones which are really hard to find
- get (S-)chinese Entombs
- get two T- or three S-chinese Engineered Plagues
- turn, if possible, all T-chinese cards into S-chinese

MMogg
01-08-2010, 06:11 PM
Beautiful! I love Chinese cards and it seems I'm in the minority. Those Vindicates and Wastelands are hawt. :smile:

Ectoplasm
01-08-2010, 09:37 PM
I don't even recognize most of those cards :D Mind giving me a hand?
First pic: Engineered Explosives, StP, ???
Sinkhole, Vindicate, ???
Second pic: Got them all
Third pic: What's the land to the right?

Raptor
01-08-2010, 09:41 PM
I don't even recognize most of those cards :D Mind giving me a hand?
First pic: Engineered Explosives, StP, innocent blood
Sinkhole, Vindicate, smallpox
Second pic: Got them all
Third pic: What's the land to the right? Cabal Pit

There you go.

By the way, your deck looks really nice!

yawg07
01-09-2010, 09:53 AM
Yeah, I dislike Chinese, but love Japanese and Korean.
But ANY deck that follows a complete theme always looks good. Congrats! You are almost there.


Got this from UPS last night ...

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/Pimp/SLAAAVE.jpg

Magik321
01-09-2010, 01:03 PM
Japanese Foil Pridemages

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/japfoilpridemage.jpg

andrew77
01-10-2010, 03:30 AM
I am not really a fan of chinese cards. Here are a few that look decent and seem appropriate. They are for trade if anyone is interested :wink:


http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-3-2.jpg


Supposedly those smokestacks as well as 2 of the korean ones posted earlier were used by Roland Chang to win vintage worlds.

erg-19
01-10-2010, 03:37 AM
That Worm Harvet looks cool, but I think Chinese cards are ugly. Their lettering looks too blocky to me.

andrew77
01-10-2010, 04:00 AM
That Worm Harvet looks cool, but I think Chinese cards are ugly. Their lettering looks too blocky to me.

I completely agree. I think t-chi is my least favorite language. Way too blocky. The new s-chi or whatever they use nowadays is pretty bad too. Some of the old s-chi cards are quite nice though. Those s-chi vindicates are one of my favorite s-chi cards.

Here is a pick of a few s-chi cards and a new one for comparison.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-4-2.jpg

All of those old s-chi cards look quite nice imo. The burning of xinye is actually another one of my favorite s-chi cards. Anyway, there's no way s-chi cards can compare to japanese cards in terms of looks. Japanese just looks so much better. Here is a side by side comparison...

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-5-1.jpg

Otter
01-10-2010, 04:10 AM
It's pretty silly to assert that as a fact. I definitely prefer the old simplified Chinese to the Japanese. This kind of stuff is what makes this thread boring anyways, the whole, "Here's is the established norm for the "pimpest" deck" mentality. It's a lot more interesting when people build an identity for their deck with things that they like than when they just buy the Japanese foils because it makes them look cool. It pretty hard to get excited about any particular post when everything in here is always Japanese foils.

On that note, props to the WBG Loam poster a bit up the page. Glad to see someone who isn't afraid to enjoy pimping out a deck in non-foil.

MMogg
01-10-2010, 04:31 AM
It's pretty silly to assert that as a fact. I definitely prefer the old simplified Chinese to the Japanese. This kind of stuff is what makes this thread boring anyways, the whole, "Here's is the established norm for the "pimpest" deck" mentality. It's a lot more interesting when people build an identity for their deck with things that they like than when they just buy the Japanese foils because it makes them look cool. It pretty hard to get excited about any particular post when everything in here is always Japanese foils.

On that note, props to the WBG Loam poster a bit up the page. Glad to see someone who isn't afraid to enjoy pimping out a deck in non-foil.

Yeah, I agree. I think Russian is dethroning Japanese though in the "pimpest" type.

I don't like that Burning Wish/Polluted Delta because the text is so small it's hard to read. I prefer the newer font they use like on the Scalding Tarn... much easier to read. Also, I too prefer Simplified Chinese because I can't read Traditional Chinese characters very easily. :smile:

Anyone who wants to trade straight up English for Chinese because you think the latter is ugly, let me know. :tongue:

badjuju
01-10-2010, 05:05 AM
I really like the thickness of the characters on the old T-Chinese cards. They might be compact, but I think it looks absolutely awesome. I'm not the biggest fan of S-Chinese, but of all the Asian languages I dislike Korean the most. To the trained eye, Korean is the most bland-looking language :wink:

MMogg
01-10-2010, 05:13 AM
I really like the thickness of the characters on the old T-Chinese cards. They might be compact, but I think it looks absolutely awesome. I'm not the biggest fan of S-Chinese, but of all the Asian languages I dislike Korean the most. To the trained eye, Korean is the most bland-looking language :wink:

So, I guess that massive hint means you know Korean? Cool.

For those not in the know, Korean uses an alphabet similar to ours in its quantity (51 Jamo... kinda like letters), unlike Chinese, which has thousands of unique characters, and at the very least, more than a hundred "radicals" or character components. [/language geeking out]

It always shits me when people say "Asian" on like MOTL because they can't differentiate Japanese, Korean and Chinese. They're so dissimilar.

badjuju
01-10-2010, 05:55 AM
So, I guess that massive hint means you know Korean? Cool.

For those not in the know, Korean uses an alphabet similar to ours in its quantity (51 Jamo... kinda like letters), unlike Chinese, which has thousands of unique characters, and at the very least, more than a hundred "radicals" or character components. [/language geeking out]

It always shits me when people say "Asian" on like MOTL because they can't differentiate Japanese, Korean and Chinese. They're so dissimilar.

I'm actually Chinese, but I know some Japanese and a tiny bit of Korean. I'm not so much worried about legibility of the characters more than how cool the script looks on the card. But yes, that is why I say Korean looks bland - because it's just the same jamo re-arranged. That's just me though. It might look cool to someone else, but to me it lacks the visual and symbolic sophistication of other Asian languages (namely Chinese).

And yes, it also really bugs me when people can't tell the difference between the Asian languages.

JeroenC
01-10-2010, 06:00 AM
I was wondering if anyone had an educated price guess on how much a FBB Undergound Sea should go. I need one (or maybe two) and all my other (three :( ) duals are FBB so I'd like to continue in this trend if possible. If anyone has any for sale they'd mail to Europe, they're also welcome to PM me.

I'm not rich though, I'm already expecting to settle for Unl.

Windux
01-10-2010, 07:56 AM
Japanese Foil Pridemages

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/japfoilpridemage.jpg

HAWT!
I don't even find non-foil Pridemages anywhere :(

Magik321
01-10-2010, 01:35 PM
More Japanese Foil Zoo cards. Have a full Japanese Zoo deck. Missing 1-2 small cards in Japanese, Lightning Helix and Vexing Shusher (I have Japanese Foil ones, but I dont play with foils), and a few duals in bb. I'll post scans when I'm done with it. Jittes and the Qasali Pridemage are signed and altered, lightning bolts are signed. Kird Apes are AN ones.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/img030.jpg

EDIT:

Forgot these, I prefer these to the original ones as the font size is larger.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/img031.jpg

Otter
01-10-2010, 02:34 PM
I really like the thickness of the characters on the old T-Chinese cards. They might be compact, but I think it looks absolutely awesome. I'm not the biggest fan of S-Chinese, but of all the Asian languages I dislike Korean the most. To the trained eye, Korean is the most bland-looking language :wink:

I don't think the fact that Korean is a mix of twenty or so (I'm way too lazy to go count) characters stuck to each other in various ways lessens its looks in any way. It certainly has more combinations for syllables than Cyrillic does letters, and I think that Russian looks great. And for what it's worth, for how complicated Japanese is with their two sets of kana and two+ uses for all their kanji, I think it looks like total shit. The kana interspersed everywhere are of a completely different level of detail/complexity/whatever and I think it really ruins the feel of the consistency of the text. It wouldn't be so bad if they used a better font, there are certainly ways to write Japanese so that it looks beautiful, but the one they use is ever so rigid and horrible. I don't think it does the language justice.

badjuju
01-10-2010, 03:53 PM
I don't think the fact that Korean is a mix of twenty or so (I'm way too lazy to go count) characters stuck to each other in various ways lessens its looks in any way. It certainly has more combinations for syllables than Cyrillic does letters, and I think that Russian looks great. And for what it's worth, for how complicated Japanese is with their two sets of kana and two+ uses for all their kanji, I think it looks like total shit. The kana interspersed everywhere are of a completely different level of detail/complexity/whatever and I think it really ruins the feel of the consistency of the text. It wouldn't be so bad if they used a better font, there are certainly ways to write Japanese so that it looks beautiful, but the one they use is ever so rigid and horrible. I don't think it does the language justice.

You're definitely right about Japanese. When too much kanji and kana clash, the consistency becomes extremely choppy, and in many cases unappealing.

I'm concerned with weight and flow - of which T-Chinese and Russian both carry. The reason why Russian looks so appealing (imo) is the fact that the characters all have a level cap height creating, visually, "lines" across each row of words. It flattens out the round and bobby look of the roman alphabet and gives it a very crisp, hard edge. And as for Korean? It's just the obtuse form of the characters that makes it rather unimpressive to me.

Otter
01-10-2010, 03:57 PM
That doesn't bother me personally, but fair enough, I can see where you're coming from on that.

yawg07
01-10-2010, 06:50 PM
The EDH player in me exploded with happiness with yesterday's mail ...

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/Pimp/NvMz.jpg

Piceli89
01-10-2010, 07:30 PM
The EDH player in me exploded with happiness with yesterday's mail ...

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/Pimp/NvMz.jpg

How much does that dude go now? A friend of mine bought the identical version at 45 euros. I know, he wasted money. But how much money as for now?

yawg07
01-10-2010, 07:52 PM
He is like $40-45, so yeah 45 EUR (65.20 USD) is a bit overspending.

Occam
01-10-2010, 09:23 PM
I've finally completed the set of City of Traitors. Waiting for arrival now and will post a pic of one of them, saving the others for a later scan. It's taken a long time to complete that set and I haven't felt so good about waiting for mail for a long time!

mtgsolring
01-11-2010, 06:36 AM
@occam : congrats !!! i cannot wait to see the scan(S) !

MattH
01-11-2010, 09:51 AM
I've finally completed the set of City of Traitors. Waiting for arrival now and will post a pic of one of them, saving the others for a later scan. It's taken a long time to complete that set and I haven't felt so good about waiting for mail for a long time!

Omg tell me this means the set of test print foils :DDDDD

Skeggi
01-11-2010, 09:54 AM
It does. Show us the good stuff buddy! :)

dahcmai
01-11-2010, 10:20 AM
Where do you guys find those? I've been hunting for a Foil Survival forever and have never seen one anywhere.

Tha Gunslinga
01-11-2010, 10:49 AM
Really?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ThaGunslinga/surv.jpg

Wargoos
01-11-2010, 01:28 PM
Really?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ThaGunslinga/surv.jpg

Why not selling those and buying a yacht?
PIMP!

android
01-11-2010, 01:45 PM
Why not selling those and buying a yacht?
PIMP!

Because, like an airplane, a yacht costs more to dock and maintain than it does to purchase. That's why you see so many used yachts for sale.

dahcmai
01-11-2010, 09:16 PM
Where do you find those things? I can never come across one to even offer on it. I tried to sign up for Magic Rarities but that sites admins seems to be gone anymore. Heh, I still need to catch up with you to see if you would like that crimped Jet I have. I still need a decent beta one for a set. I don't collect crimped ones. That Jet and an Imperial Recruiter are top of my list right now though.

Occam
01-11-2010, 10:00 PM
I've heard from friends who attend events in the US (I don't stay in the US) that the test print sotfs have been available at some of those events. Gunslinga got his on eBay iirc, together with the CoT. I'm considering whether I should go for a set of bb SotFs too, as I'm already halfway there, but other test prints just appeal to me a lot more. If they're just for your collection, I'd go for a saga textless print. If it's for prestige, I'd go for foil 8e prints. Even the crappy commons there are almost on par price-wise with a silver-bordered CoT or Sotf.

Tha Gunslinga
01-12-2010, 01:43 AM
I've seen the 8th foil stuff, though, and the silver-bordered Exodus test foils just blow away EVERYTHING when you see them in person. They are RADIANT. I will be bringing these puppies to some of the SCG Legacies, as well as GP Columbus. Hell, I'd play them if the judges would let me.

At least I can probably bust out these guys
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ThaGunslinga/Forced.jpg
Those took me I think 5 or 6 years to put together.

Otter
01-12-2010, 02:02 AM
Damn. Just damn. That's really something else, very cool set. Out of curiosity, what's the card above them on the sheet?

Skeggi
01-12-2010, 03:06 AM
It's probably this guy:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ai/117.jpg

as it's the only red 1/1 uncommon in the set.

Shursh
01-12-2010, 03:37 AM
I'm concerned with weight and flow - of which T-Chinese and Russian both carry. The reason why Russian looks so appealing (imo) is the fact that the characters all have a level cap height creating, visually, "lines" across each row of words. It flattens out the round and bobby look of the roman alphabet and gives it a very crisp, hard edge.don't know about asian font, but all russian cards made with cyrillic 'times new roman'. none unique fonts here.

Occam
01-12-2010, 03:49 AM
I've seen the 8th foil stuff, though, and the silver-bordered Exodus test foils just blow away EVERYTHING when you see them in person. They are RADIANT. I will be bringing these puppies to some of the SCG Legacies, as well as GP Columbus. Hell, I'd play them if the judges would let me.

At least I can probably bust out these guys
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ThaGunslinga/Forced.jpg
Those took me I think 5 or 6 years to put together.

Different strokes for different people, I guess. The 8e stuff is divisive in terms of looks, but they are almost certainly the most prestigious of the test prints for their rarity and cost. None of the other sets save fifth dawn even come close, in my opinion. Saga won't cut it when neither the bolt nor cradle is worth more than an 8e Counterspell, which is itself not the highest priced 8e print by a long shot. I'll say that the Exodus prints look pretty good (although I went for bb over sb), especially with the lighter coloured ones, just a bit tarnished by some of the foiling errors (a lot of foiling lines etc). I personally think that the textless bolt is the prettiest test print and that the staff of domination is one rare instance where sunburst foiling works.

Solaran_X
01-12-2010, 08:16 AM
I've seen the 8th foil stuff, though, and the silver-bordered Exodus test foils just blow away EVERYTHING when you see them in person. They are RADIANT. I will be bringing these puppies to some of the SCG Legacies, as well as GP Columbus. Hell, I'd play them if the judges would let me.
Back during Origins in 2003, I tried to trade a full set of Beta Power 9 for a play set of test foil Survivals.

Even back then, I wasn't offering enough to get the guy to trade me.

UrDraco
01-12-2010, 11:41 AM
Apparently these are now in the terretory of workshops and bazaars. One of them is very mint and the other is NM-.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/UrDraco/Tabfronts.jpg

Tha Gunslinga
01-12-2010, 01:09 PM
Soldier of Fortune.

MattH
01-13-2010, 03:07 PM
Really?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ThaGunslinga/surv.jpg

What are these worth? I have one (and some other Exodus test prints but they're not really playable cards so I expect they're not as valuable).

Julian23
01-13-2010, 03:30 PM
I can't give exact numbers but those will go for A LOT of money.

PaRa
01-13-2010, 03:35 PM
What are these worth? I have one (and some other Exodus test prints but they're not really playable cards so I expect they're not as valuable).

i hope this is a joke..

andrew77
01-13-2010, 04:02 PM
Well over a month of searching, but I finally found a volcanic...

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-10.jpg



And some pics of the deck I am working on(have jap foil 7th cities in the mail so I won't bother posting my AN ones)

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-11-3.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-13-1.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-14-3.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-12-3.jpg

Pretty much everything else is in the mail. All I am actually missing and cannot seem to find are as follows... 1 korean ill gotten gains, 4 japanese foil chrome mox, 3 japanese foil infernal tutor. The chrome moxes seem to be impossible to find though. I have asked everyone. If anyone knows of some please lmk.

badjuju
01-13-2010, 04:32 PM
Dude...
Dude...

My heart can't take it. It's too beautiful :cry:

I'm still hunting for the jp LEDs. Anyone have word on where I can reliably find some, let me know.

dahcmai
01-13-2010, 06:01 PM
What are these worth? I have one (and some other Exodus test prints but they're not really playable cards so I expect they're not as valuable).


They are quite valuable. I was searching for the Survival and ran across one, but it passed out of my range of what I would spend on a card at $1000. Give you an idea? The City of Traitors obviously is another quite costly one.

Scan them up and post them and I'm sure there's quite a few people who would love to see them and could tell you most anything you would like to know about them.

elof
01-14-2010, 02:07 AM
Awesome.

I think I saw 4 signed jap foil Chrome Moxes in sweden a couple of months ago, shall I see if they are still for sale?

dahcmai
01-14-2010, 10:42 AM
Ever notice most of the heavily pimped out decks are Tendrils decks? My most pimped out deck would be Tendril also. I'll have to post it sometime, though I like English and Alpha.

DownSyndromeKarl
01-14-2010, 10:47 AM
I'd like to see a NOGen deck get pimped. Russian Foil Progen would look sweet

jjjoness'
01-14-2010, 11:28 AM
Ever notice most of the heavily pimped out decks are Tendrils decks? My most pimped out deck would be Tendril also. I'll have to post it sometime, though I like English and Alpha.

Simple explanation: Combo players love to masturbate. + You don't need to pimp goyfs.

mchainmail
01-14-2010, 12:06 PM
Simple explanation: Combo players love to masturbate. + You don't need to pimp goyfs.

And it seems like combo players invest more heavily into their decks timewise. (And decks rarely change outside of a few cards. Compare that to Probasco CB-Top to Supreme Blue to NOBant as the pre-eminent CB-based strategies of the past year)

andrew77
01-14-2010, 12:09 PM
Ever notice most of the heavily pimped out decks are Tendrils decks? My most pimped out deck would be Tendril also. I'll have to post it sometime, though I like English and Alpha.

Some decks just take a lot of work and money to put together. Combo pieces are usually fairly easy to come by. A completely jap foil and alpha black countertop deck will cost close to $7,000. It will also take a lot of work finding nm alpha duals as well as jap foil deltas, goyfs and confidants.

badjuju
01-14-2010, 12:30 PM
I also think that combo players invest more time into their decks. Yes we masturbate in front of our cards a lot, so lets make them shiny and twice as fun!:laugh:

Bryant Cook
01-14-2010, 12:57 PM
Well over a month of searching, but I finally found a volcanic...


And some pics of the deck I am working on(have jap foil 7th cities in the mail so I won't bother posting my AN ones)


Pretty much everything else is in the mail. All I am actually missing and cannot seem to find are as follows... 1 korean ill gotten gains, 4 japanese foil chrome mox, 3 japanese foil infernal tutor. The chrome moxes seem to be impossible to find though. I have asked everyone. If anyone knows of some please lmk.
7th Cities are Hottt.

I still need 2 Mox. I'm down to 2 Mox, 2 Ritual, 1 Xantid Swarm.

MattH
01-14-2010, 01:02 PM
i hope this is a joke..
No, it's not a joke. I knew the card is valuable, but I was unsure of how much - 'valuable' could refer to a wide range of prices, and that is what I was asking about. It could have been $200 or $2000, I didn't know. Now I have a better idea.


They are quite valuable. I was searching for the Survival and ran across one, but it passed out of my range of what I would spend on a card at $1000. Give you an idea? The City of Traitors obviously is another quite costly one.

Scan them up and post them and I'm sure there's quite a few people who would love to see them and could tell you most anything you would like to know about them.

I'll scan them tomorrow (if the scanner at work is fixed by then).

Fatestitcher
01-14-2010, 01:03 PM
another combo deck in the making, but right now i'll just settle for English though. i'll post the rest of the deck
once i sleeved up 4 of these babies :tongue:

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w13/superdon2/CFXF.jpg

Kanabo
01-14-2010, 04:41 PM
does this combo deck include dream halls?

inside88
01-14-2010, 11:40 PM
after several weeks of separation are back again forever changed ! 8-)

In a comparison Foil Jap which seems very light compared ...

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_32LKYc9a7VI/S0_g7ocmNFI/AAAAAAAABNQ/darobtC1Ptw/s800/IMG_8850.JPG

Tha Gunslinga
01-15-2010, 12:35 AM
Those put even my Goyfs to shame.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ThaGunslinga/goyfs.jpg

Occam
01-15-2010, 08:13 AM
No, it's not a joke. I knew the card is valuable, but I was unsure of how much - 'valuable' could refer to a wide range of prices, and that is what I was asking about. It could have been $200 or $2000, I didn't know. Now I have a better idea.



I'll scan them tomorrow (if the scanner at work is fixed by then).

Exodus prints (plus the Hippo) were extremely expensive a few years ago, in the five digit range for a set (one each). They aren't anywhere near as expensive now. Probably due to people realising that there were more than initially thought. This isn't me trying to devalue the cards or anything, as I'd have a lot to gain from the prints being expensive.

As promised, the first of the CoT playset.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/CotBlack.jpghttp://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/CotBlack1.jpg

The Exodus test prints are inarguably the closest to what a person would define a "test print" as in narrow terms, as not just the foiling process was tested, but various other aesthetics as well, in a far great range than any other test print (save perhaps UNL ones, if people count those as test prints). The aesthetics (for the black-bordered ones, which is why they've always been above the sb ones in the eyes of most collectors) tested included text box, darkness/contrast + colour strain, the colour of the set symbol and intensity of foiling. When I post the rest, it can be observed that the set symbol looks different for 1-2 of them as well.

I've scanned one of my two favourite CoTs, and am now deciding if I should risk playing them, and what deck I should use to house them.

Oh, and as a general question of taste, say I could get either a US textless Cradle or Bolt for the same price, which one should be preffered? Ideally both eventually, and I'm leaning to the bolt for now, but the cradle is appealing too.

Edit: Realised that my scan somehow made the card look crappy. Ben was right in saying that Exodus prints look great, and the second scan does the card better justice.

yawg07
01-15-2010, 08:29 AM
Wow, so cool! Are they all black-box or just all black-bordered?

Atwa
01-15-2010, 08:36 AM
Very nice Cities. I'm actually jealous :)

Just a question, how much is a textless Cradle worth? For my Legendary collection, I think I should try to get one to sit next to my normal and Judge foil one.

Occam
01-15-2010, 08:36 AM
Wow, so cool! Are they all black-box or just all black-bordered?

My EX stuff is all black-bordered, except for a sotf. They just look better to me, with the black borders and foil shooting star. Plus some of the aesthetics were only tested on black-bordered prints iirc. I only have this black text-box piece though. The rest are not, and look considerably different as well.


Very nice Cities. I'm actually jealous :)

Just a question, how much is a textless Cradle worth? For my Legendary collection, I think I should try to get one to sit next to my normal and Judge foil one.

It's just 1 city thus far. The scan I took in the toploader just looks really crappy. Some people would say a textless cradle is worth about 3k. Don't believe them. Somewhere about half, MAYBE a bit more.

Sea R Hill
01-15-2010, 09:37 AM
after several weeks of separation are back again forever changed ! 8-)

In a comparison Foil Jap which seems very light compared ...

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_32LKYc9a7VI/S0_g7ocmNFI/AAAAAAAABNQ/darobtC1Ptw/s800/IMG_8850.JPG

I usually dislike alterations that are not made by the artist of the card, but those Tarmogoyf are just magnificient.

heroicraptor
01-15-2010, 04:43 PM
Occam, is that "-2" on all the City of Traitors test prints?

Anusien
01-15-2010, 06:02 PM
Those put even my Goyfs to shame.
How much work does it take to get a set of stamped Tarmogoyfs? There can't be that many in existence...

Tha Gunslinga
01-15-2010, 08:48 PM
6 months, maybe a year. It was tough.

MMogg
01-15-2010, 08:50 PM
Can someone enlighten me about stamped cards/Tarmogoyfs? Where are they from/why are they special?

andrew77
01-15-2010, 09:19 PM
Can someone enlighten me about stamped cards/Tarmogoyfs? Where are they from/why are they special?

They are stamped because they were used in PT play. Nothing all that special.

Occam
01-16-2010, 12:52 AM
Occam, is that "-2" on all the City of Traitors test prints?

All the black bordered prints Exodus have a number in that area, another reason why I like them. I'm not really sure what they are indicating exactly, but my guess is that the darkness/contrast between the spare portion of the card (that greyish area that exists on the card) is indicated by that number. There are prints with +/- 1 to 3, and some with just 1. The ones with + are darker in increasing degrees indicated by the number, and that area of the card is also tinged with whatever colour the textbox border is. So, one with a red textbox would have a reddish hue if it is +X. My others are two +3s and another -2, so you can see the difference there. There are also permutations for the textbox colour for every card type in magic. Some are very beautiful, and while I like all of mine, I wish I had some others whose look I like too.


Edit: I might have other EX prints with other number combinations too. I know most of my stuff is +1, but I'll take a look at those I can't recall soon, and maybe I'll borrow scans of the rest from other people (giving them credit of course). Perhaps MattH can post his as well.

dahcmai
01-16-2010, 02:44 AM
They are stamped because they were used in PT play. Nothing all that special.


Ah so that's why my Planeshift Meddling Mages have stamps. They had a little Easter Egg on them. I have always wondered what that was.

MMogg
01-16-2010, 03:23 AM
They are stamped because they were used in PT play. Nothing all that special.

Oh, yeah, I knew about that. I never knew it was "pimp" to have stamped cards. I assumed (wrongly) that it must have been something more special I was missing. Thanks.

MattH
01-16-2010, 07:04 PM
I scanned my cards:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/127/001kc.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6577/002xht.jpg

Images are large which is why I am linking them. Somehow the images being large did not prevent the scans from being crappy; the cards look better IRL than that.

badjuju
01-16-2010, 09:42 PM
They are stamped because they were used in PT play. Nothing all that special.

lol the funny part is I think I've seen those stamps (the "sun" and "arrow through heart") at teacher supply stores :laugh:

mossivo1986
01-19-2010, 07:19 PM
Quick to the teacher supply stores!

Skeggi
01-20-2010, 04:27 AM
I've scanned one of my two favourite CoTs, and am now deciding if I should risk playing them, and what deck I should use to house them.

Try MUD Stompy imo, you probably have some awesome Metalworkers to put in there :smile:

Anyhoo, nice card. Is the -2 to indicate which testrun it is or something?


Somehow the images being large did not prevent the scans from being crappy; the cards look better IRL than that.
You have one heck of a crappy scanner. But that's a nice SotF :wink:

FredMaster
01-20-2010, 07:06 AM
I actually do play Bequeathal - in my Pauper cube :smile:

PaRa
01-20-2010, 01:07 PM
missing 2 Thoughseize & 1 U.Sea ...have also got to do something to the petals/tombs/SnT/DH..start the flaming :smile:

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/Dreamhalls.jpg

Nightmare
01-20-2010, 01:13 PM
Petals are simple - get FtV Exiled ones. Foil, duh.

You need some German Forces & LDVs, and some japanese "the rest."

Valdez
01-20-2010, 01:36 PM
Got a korean SaT for sale, pm me, if youre intrested.. ... ... em... ... ... and, yes, the deck sucks and Foils are Yugijo-style... :P

andrew77
01-20-2010, 01:46 PM
Some korean stuff and a library I won this past weekend. Still need a korean city of traitors. If anyone has one please lmk.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-17.jpg

PaRa
01-20-2010, 01:47 PM
hot...makes me wanna delete my post :D

loveisgreen
01-20-2010, 02:39 PM
How do you tell the difference between summer magic basics and unlimited/revised ones? The reason I ask is because I live in the middle of Type 2 hell, and there are about 6 5000 count boxes worth of white bordered land at my local shop that no one has touched in ages. Also, what are they worth? It might be worth it to wade through all that garbage.....

Dan Turner
01-20-2010, 02:47 PM
How do you tell the difference between summer magic basics and unlimited/revised ones? The reason I ask is because I live in the middle of Type 2 hell, and there are about 6 5000 count boxes worth of white bordered land at my local shop that no one has touched in ages. Also, what are they worth? It might be worth it to wade through all that garbage.....

summer has (c) 1994 artist name

on the artist line

tpnp
01-20-2010, 04:00 PM
How do you tell the difference between summer magic basics and unlimited/revised ones? The reason I ask is because I live in the middle of Type 2 hell, and there are about 6 5000 count boxes worth of white bordered land at my local shop that no one has touched in ages. Also, what are they worth? It might be worth it to wade through all that garbage.....
Here's a pic:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q221/tpnp/MTG/SummerMTG.jpg
It's fairly easy to distinguish between the three. Unlimited spelled out the word "Tap", Revised added the tap symbol, and Summer added the copyright date.

02Drop
01-20-2010, 09:47 PM
I had no idea those basics were worth anything. I could have sworn I had a few, although they may have been 4th ED, which aren't worth squat, but at first glance, look pretty similar.

Tha Gunslinga
01-20-2010, 11:22 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ThaGunslinga/workbabywork.jpg

TrialByFire
01-21-2010, 12:52 AM
Hot damn how much do those Metalworkers run you for?

Also Korean should be the only Asian language accepted at the Ol-PIMP-ic Games. That shit is HAWT :cool:

Wargoos
01-21-2010, 03:47 AM
Also Korean should be the only Asian language accepted at the Ol-PIMP-ic Games. That shit is HAWT :cool:

The metalworker are japanese, though.
I guess you meant the stuff andrew posted.

johanessen
01-21-2010, 09:46 AM
That`s HOT

Occam
01-21-2010, 08:37 PM
Try MUD Stompy imo, you probably have some awesome Metalworkers to put in there :smile:

Anyhoo, nice card. Is the -2 to indicate which testrun it is or something?




I'm not sure what the numbers on the cards mean exactly, but I've posted about my best guess, which is that those with + are darker with coloured hues depending on the text border, and those with - are lighter, in increasing degrees depending on the magnitude of the number. I've asked around, even spoken to a couple of people in Wizards, but there aren't enough people from the testing period still around to give a good answer.

As for which deck, I wanted to go with white stax, but I was a bit drunk and didn't bid on the summer geddon that ended, which leaves me on 1 summer geddon. Probably not going to work out, so I might just go with 5/3 if I can complete the set of summer nauts to play next to 4 golems.

andrew77
01-21-2010, 09:00 PM
I'm not sure what the numbers on the cards mean exactly, but I've posted about my best guess, which is that those with + are darker with coloured hues depending on the text border, and those with - are lighter, in increasing degrees depending on the magnitude of the number. I've asked around, even spoken to a couple of people in Wizards, but there aren't enough people from the testing period still around to give a good answer.

As for which deck, I wanted to go with white stax, but I was a bit drunk and didn't bid on the summer geddon that ended, which leaves me on 1 summer geddon. Probably not going to work out, so I might just go with 5/3 if I can complete the set of summer nauts to play next to 4 golems.

The geddon went for more than I was expecting tbh. After that $400 regrowth a few weeks ago I was hoping some more things would go for cheap, but both the geddon and dark rit hit pretty solid numbers. Oh well, at least beb is up for next week. That could be a nice addition to my collection.

Occam
01-21-2010, 10:02 PM
I think Regrowth went for just about the correct price, as it is an uncommon after all. I remember picking up one for a lot lower than 400 a while back. Dark rit was fine, a bit lower than I would think. but that seller has pretty much sucked summer buyers dry. Geddon is a different story though. Has nostalgia and playability on its side. I was expecting close to a grand, and would have gladly taken it at that price.

Ah well, I hate merfolk, but Lord of Atlantis seems like a good consolation prize.

MattH
01-22-2010, 11:30 AM
How much Summer magic escaped destruction? Would it be possible to build a complete summer revised set, or are some cards simply nonexistant?

ramanujan
01-22-2010, 12:04 PM
Matt,

I believe it would be widely known knowledge if there was a summer magic card that may not exist. The numbers are staggeringly low though. I believe that there are at most 15 (guessing here) of any rare and far less than that for a few select rares.

Andrew77 or Occam could probably provide more exact totals using public collections as a source.

UrDraco
01-22-2010, 12:33 PM
I am currently pimping out a Lands.dec and would like to know what people thing about the new Maze of Ith? I personally love how the old one almost looks gray but the new one is shiny.

So which would be more pimp? I know the new one cost more but that isn't everything. Personally I am leaning toward the old one but I believe the absolute most pimp would be the old one with Anson Maddoks signature as it is freaking impossible to find.

andrew77
01-22-2010, 12:38 PM
I am currently pimping out a Lands.dec and would like to know what people thing about the new Maze of Ith? I personally love how the old one almost looks gray but the new one is shiny.

So which would be more pimp? I know the new one cost more but that isn't everything. Personally I am leaning toward the old one but I believe the absolute most pimp would be the old one with Anson Maddoks signature as it is freaking impossible to find.

Signed Italian ones IMO. Almost impossible to find.

On the topic of summer nobody knows for sure how many of each rare exist, but there are 2 complete sets and an unopened box. Most people will say somewhere between 8-15 of each rare. I personally think it is on the higher end, but I could be wrong.

Occam
01-22-2010, 01:47 PM
How much Summer magic escaped destruction? Would it be possible to build a complete summer revised set, or are some cards simply nonexistant?

As stated, at least 2 complete sets exist. As for how many exist, no one really knows, but estimates are 10 cases of leaked product, plus when summer cards were dumped into the trash, wizards employees were allowed to grab stuff. Which means the numbers for high-end summer cards (at the time that would mean cards like Shivan, Vesuvan, Gaea's Liege, Tutor, duals etc) and weird looking cards like the Efreet and the Hurricane probably exist in inflated numbers. My guess is between 12-18 of each rare. Probably at the higher end. Uncommon figures are a bit tougher due to basics. I did calculations on that before, and if I can find them I'll post them.

andrew77
01-23-2010, 03:34 PM
Finally some interesting mail arrived today. Got a bunch of korean cards too, but I will save those for another day.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-22.jpg

Edit: Who am I kidding. I'm pretty excited I finally found a korean argivian restoration. Only a couple of cards missing for my highlander deck now. It also looks like I have a few too many wastelands. Still waiting on more in the mail, heh.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-23.jpg

Wargoos
01-23-2010, 03:52 PM
Finally some interesting mail arrived today. Got a bunch of korean cards too, but I will save those for another day.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-22.jpg

Edit: Who am I kidding. I'm pretty excited I finally found a korean argivian restoration. Only a couple of cards missing for my highlander deck now. It also looks like I have a few too many wastelands. Still waiting on more in the mail, heh.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-23.jpg
Freakin beautiful those cities are.
How much do you have to pay to get a playset of those?

Bryant Cook
01-23-2010, 04:05 PM
Freakin beautiful those cities are.
How much do you have to pay to get a playset of those?

I spent 70$ each.

NQN
01-24-2010, 11:49 AM
Andrew77: First of all those are really beautiful cards which Iīm very jealous of!
But what Iīm always asking myself is : Are you a trader or did you just scooped to life and decided to have the most beautiful card collection on earth?^^
If nor is the reason, tell me how you got that job ;)

andrew77
01-24-2010, 02:34 PM
Andrew77: First of all those are really beautiful cards which Iīm very jealous of!
But what Iīm always asking myself is : Are you a trader or did you just scooped to life and decided to have the most beautiful card collection on earth?^^
If nor is the reason, tell me how you got that job ;)

I wouldn't really call myself a trader as I am too lazy and don't keep up with type 2 trends as it is a crappy format. Most people don't even have cards worth trading for. If I do trade it is usually for things that people value poorly like korean singles, and legacy staples. I got 5 or 6 entombs for $3 each after it was unbanned just because people don't keep up with the banned list. Same with dream halls, although I didn't come across any show and tells.

Usually what I do is flip cards. I get a good deal on ebay once in a while, but most often I will just have people coming to me looking for cards. If their prices are worth it I make a few calls and buy the card to resell it to them. Last week for example I flipped some beta duals and was left with a "free" beta volcanic island. I also buy cards for investment purposes. I bought 5 tabernacles in september/october for $100 each after testing 43 lands and being very impressed with the deck.

Kojiro
01-24-2010, 02:42 PM
Last week for example I flipped some beta duals and was left with a "free" beta volcanic island.
Hehe, thanks for the duals, bro :laugh:

andrew77
01-24-2010, 04:13 PM
Hehe, thanks for the duals, bro :laugh:

Your welcome. Hope you enjoy them. That whole sale list was actually really good for me as I got like 10 people asking me for duals and such. Sold 5 other duals besides the ones you bought and still have people who want underground sea's and tundra's. Too bad I passed up a set of beta tundra's for $750 a few weeks ago. I also passed up some $350 nm- sea's cause they weren't alpha :tongue:
I really dislike buying cards that I don't want if I don't have a buyer lined up.

Anyway, here are some pics of some jap foils. Nothing too impressive, but still cards that are needed for highlander and what not.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-24.jpg

jimirynk
01-25-2010, 08:25 PM
I have my ichorid deck completely foil and I want to try to upgrade it to Japanese foil but I have noticed the price of Japanese foil to be ridiculously high.
For example a foil Iona is 20 dollars foil Japanese Iona is around 110.. Now is their a way to get these cards anymore affordable?
I mean if i go to Japan what are the prices for these cards?

Bryant Cook
01-25-2010, 09:20 PM
I have my ichorid deck completely foil and I want to try to upgrade it to Japanese foil but I have noticed the price of Japanese foil to be ridiculously high.
For example a foil Iona is 20 dollars foil Japanese Iona is around 110.. Now is their a way to get these cards anymore affordable?
I mean if i go to Japan what are the prices for these cards?

Just man up. I did.

MMogg
01-25-2010, 09:27 PM
I have my ichorid deck completely foil and I want to try to upgrade it to Japanese foil but I have noticed the price of Japanese foil to be ridiculously high.
For example a foil Iona is 20 dollars foil Japanese Iona is around 110.. Now is their a way to get these cards anymore affordable?
I mean if i go to Japan what are the prices for these cards?


Yeah, that's basically because of comments like this:


Petals are simple - get FtV Exiled ones. Foil, duh.

You need some German Forces & LDVs, and some japanese "the rest."

That kind of groupthink of what is ultimate pimp makes prices nuts.


Just man up. I did.

This. Especially since, like Bryant with TES, you seem to be an Ichorid only player. If you are pretty secure in playing only one deck, then just go for it. Or, go for something different like Russian (were they even printing Russian at that time?)/Spanish/Italian/etc. ;)

jimirynk
01-25-2010, 09:32 PM
Just man up. I did.

Yes, but with everything in the deck $50+ i would like to find better prices.

andrew77
01-25-2010, 09:54 PM
Yes, but with everything in the deck $50+ i would like to find better prices.

That is not the case. The only cards that would be close to or more than $50 are iona, ichorid, leylines, saviors pithing needle's, unmask, and 7th cities. Therapy, study, breakthrough, dreturns, narcomoeba, dredgers, etc are all quite cheap. Also, if you decide to go for 8th cities and m10 needle's that would also save a lot of money.

jimirynk
01-25-2010, 09:57 PM
How much are foil Japanese unmasks anyway?

Dazed
01-26-2010, 03:04 AM
How much are foil Japanese unmasks anyway?

Iīve seen this for 60 euros on the internet.

However I believe thatīs a rob. I was offering mine for fifty five dollars. As no one here was interested on buying it I finally trade it to a friend for a Mana Crypt and other goodies...

Skeggi
01-26-2010, 04:14 AM
Yes, but with everything in the deck $50+ i would like to find better prices.
If it was cheap or easy to get, it wouldn't be pimp now, would it? The entire point of having a pimp deck is showing off how rich (and crazy) you are. If you can't afford it, you're not rich enough. Or crazy enough.

Sea R Hill
01-26-2010, 05:12 AM
The entire point of having a pimp deck is showing off how rich (and crazy) you are.

That is exactly the kind of things I don't like to hear or read. This is ridiculous, and you're not better than rap superstars that spend all their money into jewelry just to show the world how "good" (understand pathetic) they are.

Pimp is not about your penis, it's about art and personal preferences.

Skeggi
01-26-2010, 05:17 AM
Why call it 'pimp' then? A more appropriate term for your definition would be 'personalized deck'. Ofcourse is pimp about your penis, and bragging about it here is for your epeen. And The_Gunslinga, Occam and andrew77 are hung like an elephant.

PaRa
01-26-2010, 07:21 AM
more pictures...my pet deck...but...still not finished...the last goyf has not arrived yet and im still missing one B.Moon for the side....DAMN!

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/swansmain.jpg

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/Swansside-1.jpg

MMogg
01-26-2010, 08:40 AM
PaRa - don't you also have the foiled out Goblins deck? How many foiled out decks do you have?! Now to state the obvious: beautiful deck.

PaRa
01-26-2010, 09:14 AM
hmm hard to tell...i have sleeved up goblins, Dredge, swanthresh and soldiers(mighty deck but only 50% done...) If i want to built anything else i have to break them apart.

badjuju
01-26-2010, 09:20 AM
I have my ichorid deck completely foil and I want to try to upgrade it to Japanese foil but I have noticed the price of Japanese foil to be ridiculously high.
For example a foil Iona is 20 dollars foil Japanese Iona is around 110.. Now is their a way to get these cards anymore affordable?
I mean if i go to Japan what are the prices for these cards?

While I was in Japan, the prices for cards were pretty high, but not at the price you'd see on ebay. Then again I didn't go to any hole in the wall shops, just the Yellow Submarine in Akihabara (and I'm sure that'd be the most expensive place to buy cards).
People who sell in the states know that us suckers are willing to pay more for foreign cards, so they intentionally jack up the prices to insane amounts, hoping somebody will purchase them. I would suggest checking out MOTL - you can usually find decent deals there if you are willing to buy from an unsanctioned site.

andrew77
01-26-2010, 12:11 PM
Here is an example showing the difference between 7th and 8th cities as well as japanese and russian. As I said before you would save a lot of money by getting later printings of cards. For things like pithing needle there is no difference in card frame or art. Just the fact that sok is rarer and worth 2-3 times as much.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-26.jpg

jimirynk
01-26-2010, 01:58 PM
While I was in Japan, the prices for cards were pretty high, but not at the price you'd see on ebay. Then again I didn't go to any hole in the wall shops, just the Yellow Submarine in Akihabara (and I'm sure that'd be the most expensive place to buy cards).
People who sell in the states know that us suckers are willing to pay more for foreign cards, so they intentionally jack up the prices to insane amounts, hoping somebody will purchase them. I would suggest checking out MOTL - you can usually find decent deals there if you are willing to buy from an unsanctioned site.
Did they have a good collection of foils?

andrew77
01-26-2010, 10:19 PM
Some more TES cards arrived as did a TfK that is going into my highlander deck. I swear that sometime soon I will post my highlander deck. I always postpone it because I have new cards for it in the mail, but this is a never-ending cycle so soon I will post it.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-27.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-28.jpg

jimirynk
01-26-2010, 10:33 PM
@ andrew 77
I've seen you in person, youre a pretty young dude how do you afford to continuously buy cards off ebay?

sauce
01-26-2010, 11:49 PM
@ andrew 77
I've seen you in person, youre a pretty young dude how do you afford to continuously buy cards off ebay?

he makes $ by starring on the jersey shore

andrew77
01-27-2010, 12:07 AM
he makes $ by starring on the jersey shore

Shhh!!! Nobody's supposed to know that.

Odysseus
01-27-2010, 02:10 PM
@ andrew 77
I've seen you in person, youre a pretty young dude how do you afford to continuously buy cards off ebay?

I do the same thing he does, just on a smaller scale. its not that hard, I just dont have the connections he does.

PaRa
01-27-2010, 02:19 PM
more pictures, some older and some new arrivals, enjoy!

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/foils.jpg

sauce
01-27-2010, 03:47 PM
may i suggest we all agree to post prices of cards if we're not posting full decks but rather "new mail came in"
i think i am not the only curious party here.

andrew77
01-27-2010, 03:52 PM
may i suggest we all agree to post prices of cards if we're not posting full decks but rather "new mail came in"
i think i am not the only curious party here.

The question is should we post what we paid for the cards or what they are worth? BTW, cool stuff PaRa. I really like the s-chi decree and the jap masticore. Jap deed's also look amazing.

sauce
01-27-2010, 04:38 PM
i think both "cost" & "worth" prices would be appreciated by the people on here

andrew77
01-27-2010, 11:07 PM
Got another dual in the mail. Only a few more to go and I'm done. Finding nice alpha duals is such a pita.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-29.jpg

jimirynk
01-28-2010, 01:10 AM
Got another dual in the mail. Only a few more to go and I'm done. Finding nice alpha duals is such a pita.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-29.jpg

Sigh..
So sexy.

johanessen
01-28-2010, 06:02 AM
Note the illustrator name: Mark Poole. I Like that card!

mtgsolring
01-28-2010, 07:48 AM
Note the illustrator name: Mark Poole. I Like that card!

Get it signed :tongue:



Finding nice alpha duals is such a pita.

+1

in NM or better condition, A/B duals (especially alpha IMO and considering my experience so far) are "awfully" (!) difficult to find.

I made better scans of mine, the hardest one to find was the pack fresh volcanic :cool:

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab267/mtgsolring/mtg%20duals/12-1.jpg
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab267/mtgsolring/mtg%20duals/Numriser0011.jpg

MMogg
01-28-2010, 07:58 AM
Get it signed :tongue:

I've heard horror stories of Poole ruining Ancestral Recalls and stuff. Does anyone have any examples of Poole ruining a card? I've never actually seen it.

Nightmare
01-28-2010, 08:01 AM
I've heard horror stories of Poole ruining Ancestral Recalls and stuff. Does anyone have any examples of Poole ruining a card? I've never actually seen it.The point was that he didn't draw Tropical Island. It's a misprint in Alpha.

MMogg
01-28-2010, 08:17 AM
The point was that he didn't draw Tropical Island. It's a misprint in Alpha.

Oh! Duh to me. I've nevertheless heard he ruins cards, so my request still stands. :tongue:

linux-ll-
01-28-2010, 09:02 AM
Some days ago I had a Mana Drain signed by Mark Pool. The problem was that his golden pen was a little bid fucked up he wanted to sign the card. End of the story there was big ugly golden blotch. hard to imagine that this should be his sign. stupidly I donīt have a scan and nowadays Iīm pretty happy that I was able to get 80 € for it, good old days were mana drain was not as cheap as yet

andrew77
01-28-2010, 09:14 AM
Why would you have mark poole sign a mana drain? Anyway, I've heard poole has ruined cards, but I think it is quite rare. Rob alexander on the other hand ruins at least half of the cards he touches.

Skeggi
01-28-2010, 09:29 AM
Why would you have mark poole sign a mana drain?
Ninjasign to troll Tedin?


Anyway, I've heard poole has ruined cards, but I think it is quite rare. Rob alexander on the other hand ruins at least half of the cards he touches.
I've got two Windswept Heaths which are supposed to be signed. Instead of a signature it's more like a 3 year old doodled on them. They're still okay because they're German. I'll post a scan sometime...

I like Alexander's autograph though...

sauce
01-28-2010, 11:01 AM
signed cards = less valuable in my opinion

leander?
01-28-2010, 11:24 AM
Moar pimp less talk! Last pimp deck was 25+ posts ago, BB duals are boring.

Guevera59
01-28-2010, 12:05 PM
Ninjasign to troll Tedin?

I've got two Windswept Heaths which are supposed to be signed. Instead of a signature it's more like a 3 year old doodled on them. They're still okay because they're German. I'll post a scan sometime...

I like Alexander's autograph though...

I have those Heaths also, and a few other cards signed by the same artist. That's just his signature.

Brot_Ohne_Kruste
01-29-2010, 04:50 PM
It's finally done:


MD:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8809/cimg0194.jpg

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9243/cimg0195t.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9934/cimg0196l.jpg

SB:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6426/cimg0198g.jpg

Next steps to do:
- Cut one Extirpate for a Tabernacle
- if possible, exchange T-Chinese with S-Chinese

psu42
01-29-2010, 10:08 PM
I have had both Alexander (Ravnica duals, reg duals, fetches) and Poole (Library of Alexandria) sign cards. They all look fine, and I have never heard of Poole screwing cards whether on purpose or not. And all my Rav duals are fine too.

On a sidenote 1: Alexander does have a nice signature.

Sidenote 2: Why the hell would you have Poole sign your Mana Drains when he didn't even do the art?

NQN
02-02-2010, 07:31 AM
THe deck looks nice Brot, I like asian way better than foil/anything else so itīs exactly the way I wouldīve done it.
Apart from that, I hate the deck :D

Koby
02-02-2010, 06:43 PM
Asian pimp > foil pimp. I approve!

I'm slowly working on Pox pimped in Korean, and subbed with T-Chinese for newer cards. The Japanese font is too thin for my liking.

keys
02-02-2010, 10:44 PM
Pimp is not about your penis, it's about art and personal preferences.

Just skimming old posts-- taken out of context this sentence is pretty much signature quote gold.

elof
02-03-2010, 04:22 PM
A friend of mines cards...

http://i48.tinypic.com/wvr3iu.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/123qhrd.jpg

jimirynk
02-03-2010, 04:32 PM
Signed taiga fail.

Wargoos
02-03-2010, 04:34 PM
A friend of mines cards...

http://i48.tinypic.com/wvr3iu.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/123qhrd.jpg

I didn't think the swedish economy to go that well...

elof
02-03-2010, 04:46 PM
Signed taiga fail.

Haha, that's what I said! :D I will make him trade it for a non-signed one :) Or buy another :P

jimirynk
02-03-2010, 04:56 PM
I thought my collection was good..=/

JeroenC
02-03-2010, 05:37 PM
I didn't think the swedish economy to go that well...

I think I just came. Shiiiit that collection is awesome.

johanessen
02-03-2010, 05:49 PM
The point was that he didn't draw Tropical Island. It's a misprint in Alpha.

I`ve also heard he DID draw it. The missprints are Beta, Unlimited and Revised! Maybe someone can help here.

J.V.
02-03-2010, 07:14 PM
I'm fairly certain that Poole was originally commissioned to do the art for Tropical Island but the painting that he did for it was instead used for Birds of Paradise. I'll see if I can find a source on that, but I know I've heard that from multiple sources. So in short Alpha would be the misprint.

Yeah I found an article from MTG.com (http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=magic/magiconline/prismaticprimer) that references it.

badjuju
02-04-2010, 02:41 AM
Took me a few months to assemble this awesomeness. Everything that can be foil is foil (except for my FBB Demonic Tutor).
Just got my general altered last week and am about finished. The last things I might do are alter a few more cards, OD foil Coffers, TO foil Chainer's Edict, and possibly add in a Grim Tutor. Hope you guys like it XD

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/Milabrega6666/XD%20EDH/XiahouDunEDH.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/Milabrega6666/XD%20EDH/XDCreatures.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/Milabrega6666/XD%20EDH/XDBombs.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/Milabrega6666/XD%20EDH/XDRamp.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/Milabrega6666/XD%20EDH/XDLands.jpg

The last image is kinda blurry. The cards are (from top left to bottom right): Phyrexian Reclamation, Haunted Crossroads, Corpse Dance, Grim Discovery, Petrified Field, Urborg, Reliquary Tower, Volrath's Stronghold, Vesuva, Strip Mine (FTVE), Thawing Glaciers, and Boseiju. Then Coffers and 30x foil Snow-Covereds :D

MMogg
02-04-2010, 03:02 AM
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h253/Milabrega6666/XD%20EDH/XiahouDunEDH.jpg

Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery pimptastic. I love the idea of the only altered card being the general, though, because the uniqueness of the look corresponds wonderfully to the unique role a general plays in EDH.

Mr.C
02-04-2010, 03:04 AM
Wow, and i thought I was the only guy running Xiahou as a General. Nice!

andrew77
02-04-2010, 03:06 AM
That's a pretty cool looking EDH deck. I definitely agree about going with real foils over fnm ones. FNM hurts my eyes. I would go for korean yawg will, volraths stronghold, nevs disk and strip mine. I think I'd also go for a planar chaos foil damnation as well. Either way, very nice deck. I love seeing pimp EDH and highlander decks.

badjuju
02-04-2010, 03:12 AM
That's a pretty cool looking EDH deck. I definitely agree about going with real foils over fnm ones. FNM hurts my eyes. I would go for korean yawg will, volraths stronghold, nevs disk and strip mine. I think I'd also go for a planar chaos foil damnation as well. Either way, very nice deck. I love seeing pimp EDH and highlander decks.

Thanks for the kind words everyone XD

Yea the FNM thing kinda lets me down. Korean Will/Volrath/Disk/Mine are gonna be quite a journey haha. I do have an FBB German Strip that I was thinking of using instead (the FTVE foils are terribad), but that's still far off. Planar Chaos Damnation is a very good call - that and the TO Chainers/ OD Coffers will have to be my next targets.

EDIT: and Prophecy Plague Wind.

elof
02-04-2010, 04:42 AM
I think I just came. Shiiiit that collection is awesome.


Haha, yeah, and he still has like full BB Power, Drains, foil Goyfs, foil playset of most playables and unplayables in legacy like standstill, counterbalance, top, etc. All english foil :) Oh, and yea, of course he has the entire stax deck in foil :)

andrew77
02-06-2010, 08:52 PM
Not much happening in here lately. Anyway I keep saying I'm going to post my highlander deck so I have decided I will just post the parts of it that are fully pimped. It would look silly if I posted the whole thing as only 60 or 70 cards are finished, another 20 or so are chi foil or what not and there's still 15 cards that are just plain old english foil or even nonfoil and are complete eyesores.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-19.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-2-2.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-3-3.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-5-2.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-4-3.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-6-3.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-7-2.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-8-2.jpg

A lot of the missing cards are in the mail, but I do still need the following... Japanese foil coalition relic, sharuum, sphinx of the steel wind, baneslayer angel, crumbling sanctuary, compulsive research, ajani vengeant, garruk, obelisk of alara, chrome mox, tezzeret and signets. Also missing a moat since I sold my beat up one and want a nm one, some alpha duals (tundra, savannah, taiga), alpha twister and korean exploration.

Fatestitcher
02-06-2010, 09:08 PM
the miscut Bazaar is sex! i so looove the way it shares border with that red card. I'm saving a photo of a very similar card, did you happen to just recently acquire it off the market?

sauce
02-06-2010, 10:04 PM
andrew you are a pimp's pimp.

Gambit
02-07-2010, 03:05 PM
So you were the one who outbid me on the Bazaar, actually, I think a bunch of people did, I went up to about $350, but figured I wouldn't win. Amazing deck and the bazaar is the best part IMO.

oRen
02-07-2010, 03:52 PM
great deck ... the general style is really nice ... many korean, alpha and foiled japanese beauties!

i love the upside down guru island but i dislike the mox diamond because of being signed.
anyway i think the bazaar is too outstanding for being played ...


he makes $ by starring on the jersey shore

i badly want to join you andrew :)

regards

Fatestitcher
02-07-2010, 05:18 PM
So you were the one who outbid me on the Bazaar, actually, I think a bunch of people did, I went up to about $350, but figured I wouldn't win. Amazing deck and the bazaar is the best part IMO.

If we are really talking about the same card, it sold for 525ish. I know this is a Legacy forum but guys from TheManaDrain will shit their pants when they see this card. I think that card actually costs more now since Bazaars are selling for ~50 more. I would rather stare at it all day long rather than a PSA 10 Black Lotus, unless that lotus is miscut the same way LOL.

badjuju
02-08-2010, 12:44 PM
lol andrew, just put me to shame. Even though my EDH is foiled out, those cards are pretty easy to obtain, I won't lie. Your pimp hand is tooo strong!

birds of paradise
02-08-2010, 04:29 PM
I heard those are popular :D

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9494/dscn1401o.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/dscn1401o.jpg/)

Now that i actually uploaded the picture i noticed those cards are missing on the photo:

6 tundra (rev)
4 bayou (rev)
3 badlands (rev)
3 Underground sea (UNL)

The_Red_Panda
02-08-2010, 04:37 PM
I heard those are popular :D

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9494/dscn1401o.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/dscn1401o.jpg/)

Now that i actually uploaded the picture i noticed those cards are missing on the photo:

6 tundra (rev)
4 bayou (rev)
3 badlands (rev)
3 Underground sea (UNL)

Are you by any chance selling any of those?

birds of paradise
02-08-2010, 05:58 PM
Are you by any chance selling any of those?

Unfortually i don't.

Nizmox
02-08-2010, 10:12 PM
Just wondering what peoples opinion of the 'pimpest' kird ape is?
My preference is for the older picture (aka not 9th ed Foil or FTV).
So it's a tossup between the Arabian Nights version or FNM Foil.

A large portion of my Zoo deck is already foil, so I'm leaning toward the FNM version, but i'm not a fan of the FNM text on the card. What are other peoples opinion?

MMogg
02-08-2010, 10:36 PM
Just wondering what peoples opinion of the 'pimpest' kird ape is?
My preference is for the older picture (aka not 9th ed Foil or FTV).
So it's a tossup between the Arabian Nights version or FNM Foil.

A large portion of my Zoo deck is already foil, so I'm leaning toward the FNM version, but i'm not a fan of the FNM text on the card. What are other peoples opinion?

It's got to be Arabian Nights. They go well with Chain Lightning (which hasn't a foil variant) and an Arabian Nights Mountain. :smile:

Edit: I should also include the obvious, duals can't be foiled either, so there is no hope of an all foil Zoo.

VsTheWorld
02-08-2010, 11:31 PM
As far as old picture, it has to be just Arabian Nights. Otherwise foil Russian is definitely the way to go (isn't it always?).

DownSyndromeKarl
02-09-2010, 12:31 AM
As far as old picture, it has to be just Arabian Nights. Otherwise foil Russian is definitely the way to go (isn't it always?).

QFT. I used to run three of the Arabian Nights ones and teammates gave me shit cuz they weren't foil. Eff that. AN Apes are awesome looking. Anything Russian wins too though, which is why my fourth ape was 8th Ed russian. This was in Ext though, I never ran zoo in Legacy.

Gibsonmac
02-09-2010, 01:49 PM
FBB apes of any variety... I prefer German

Tha Gunslinga
02-09-2010, 10:15 PM
I have I think 3 pimp Kird Apes. I'll try to get a pic up.

oRen
02-09-2010, 10:50 PM
... which is why my fourth ape was 8th Ed russian.
double fail ... no ape in 8th + no russian cards before 9th (except Laquatus's Champion) :tongue:


as everybody loves german cards and fbb duals - here we go ...

http://imgbox.de/users/public/thumbnails/z23093b239_t.gif (http://imgbox.de/?img=z23093b239.jpg)

bad photo obviously ... but the thread needs moaaar pictures ...

regards

Gibsonmac
02-09-2010, 11:21 PM
speaking of German FBB duals, there is a MINT Tropical Island playset on ebay right now... they look haawt, might try and spring for them

DownSyndromeKarl
02-10-2010, 12:22 AM
double fail ... no ape in 8th + no russian cards before 9th (except Laquatus's Champion) :tongue:


meh, minor mistake considering 8th and 9th have the same expansion symbol

andrew77
02-10-2010, 02:09 AM
Not all that much interesting mail recently. Been waiting on a jap foil delta to get here from Argentina for almost a month and I'm starting to worry. Anything that I get that isn't the delta tends to be disappointing, heh. Hopefully it shows up soon. In the meantime I have received one exciting package. Here's a pic of one of the cards I found inside.

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-10-1.jpg

Tha Gunslinga
02-10-2010, 02:02 PM
Which one of these is not like the other?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ThaGunslinga/KA.jpg

socialite
02-10-2010, 04:29 PM
Some people won't like this and it isn't a very expensive card, however the artwork is a personal favorite of mine. Still looking for three more. :(

http://usera.ImageCave.com/JJLessard/City%20of%20Brass%20%28Korean%29.jpg

Tychoides
02-10-2010, 04:49 PM
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for posting awesome pictures. You've all inspired me to work on pimping some of my favorite decks, though my tastes are slightly different than you guys... I go black bordered first, then foil, then Japanese foil. No foreign languages other than Japanese! (Though that has a lot to do with me wanting to practice my Japanese too.)

However, my bank account is very mad at you and I'm scared to look at how much I've spent lately. :)

Keep up the awesome pimping!

Sigar
02-10-2010, 06:41 PM
Which one of these is not like the other?

Any chance you will sell those?

Tha Gunslinga
02-10-2010, 07:12 PM
Probably not. I always find that I'd rather have the cards than cash.

Nocco
02-10-2010, 08:13 PM
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd203/pinkhottie33u/Tarmogoyf2.jpg

My foily Goyf, now on Ebay! I know it isn't much, I'll start posting some REAL pimp when I get around to selling all of my jap foil stuff.

majikal
02-10-2010, 08:36 PM
Some people won't like this and it isn't a very expensive card, however the artwork is a personal favorite of mine. Still looking for three more. :(

http://usera.ImageCave.com/JJLessard/City%20of%20Brass%20%28Korean%29.jpg
Do they have FBB cities with this art? This is honestly strictly better than an Arabian Nights or Renaissance/Chronicles City of Brass, simply because it doesn't get hosed by City In A Bottle. That shit's starting to get played in SBs for Bazaar decks. :(

socialite
02-10-2010, 09:24 PM
I am unsure, I do not think they have FBB CoB with that specific artwork.

oRen
02-10-2010, 10:23 PM
I am unsure, I do not think they have FBB CoB with that specific artwork.
does not excist - you are right.
no bb 5th or 6th.

funny thing ...
its supposed to excist in bb as S-Chin 5th was the first core set in S-Chin ... but 5th S-Chin is wb because of some reason ...

regards

Occam
02-11-2010, 12:24 AM
Has anyone here seen an albino version of a staple before? I would pay a ton for an albino bolt, ritual or brainstorm, but have never located any before.

That said, very nice cards posted over the past few pages. Makes me feel like posting something too, although I'm still 1-2 cards away from having 9 cards that are good/interesting enough to post. When I finally complete that, it'll probably be worth it :)

andrew77
02-11-2010, 12:31 AM
A complete albino? I don't think I have, but I know of a half albino brainstorm. I'm sure you know of it too though.

Afro
02-11-2010, 03:07 AM
Has anyone here seen an albino version of a staple before? I would pay a ton for an albino bolt, ritual or brainstorm, but have never located any before.

That said, very nice cards posted over the past few pages. Makes me feel like posting something too, although I'm still 1-2 cards away from having 9 cards that are good/interesting enough to post. When I finally complete that, it'll probably be worth it :)

I know that a very big ebay store has a Spanish or Italian Albino Force of Will not listed so I'm not sure if it is for sale. However I did pick this up off them:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg84/jpalm84/mtg/IslandIA.jpg

Also had this bad boy before I sold out last time.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg84/jpalm84/mtg/betaswampaltered.jpg

Tha Gunslinga
02-11-2010, 09:50 AM
I know that a very big ebay store has a Spanish or Italian Albino Force of Will not listed so I'm not sure if it is for sale.[/IMG]

Meh, some guy in France has been bleaching Forces and things for a while; I wouldn't trust anything like that.

sauce
02-11-2010, 11:13 AM
the bleached force of wills (by putting them in the sun for a while) are dope... i would love to have a set, i don't want to experiment on my only force of wills though :)

majikal
02-11-2010, 11:26 AM
the bleached force of wills (by putting them in the sun for a while) are dope... i would love to have a set, i don't want to experiment on my only force of wills though :)
It's not hard or dangerous. Just mask the parts you want to retain color and leave under a UV lamp.

socialite
02-11-2010, 01:22 PM
I don't understand why people get off on destroying cards. Most alterations are terrible, the only decent ones come from real artists or people like Gus etc etc. Playset of bleached Force of Will? Why?

majikal
02-12-2010, 04:27 PM
I don't understand why people get off on destroying cards. Most alterations are terrible, the only decent ones come from real artists or people like Gus etc etc. Playset of bleached Force of Will? Why?
Because they look pimp as hell (bleached FoWs I mean; I agree most alterations are terrible)! Just look at this beauty:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/antgoten/FoWbleached.jpg
But I wouldn't pay extra for them. Just do it yourself.

Tha Gunslinga
02-12-2010, 08:50 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But MAN is that shit uglay.

xTrainx
02-12-2010, 09:00 PM
I would love to have a set like that.

Fatestitcher
02-13-2010, 01:56 PM
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w13/superdon2/1.jpg

my one and only Bazaar. What I love about it is the uniqueness of the signature.
It's much much cleaner than those selling at ebay right now..

link: http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=bazaar+of+baghdad+signed

1rakete
02-13-2010, 02:11 PM
@bleached fow

How long do they need to be like that? (UV-lamp method)

majikal
02-13-2010, 02:16 PM
@bleached fow

How long do they need to be like that? (UV-lamp method)
...until the color's gone. :eyebrow:

Just keep an eye on it. There are varying degrees of color degradation, and obviously the longer you leave it under there the more noticeable the effect will be. Make very certain to completely mask any part that you wish to retain color, though.

Versus
02-14-2010, 06:10 AM
I've been holding off posting this for years. It's just so rediculously pimp, I didn't want to minimize anyone elses efforts, but now the time has come. You are ready...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/KSC2-303/8509e3a6.jpg

An Italian Legend signed by an Italian legend. I think perhaps only a John Paul II signed Wrath of God could possibly out shine its awesomeness. And he's not even Italian!

majikal
02-14-2010, 06:25 AM
I've been holding off posting this for years. It's just so rediculously pimp, I didn't want to minimize anyone elses efforts, but now the time has come. You are ready...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/KSC2-303/8509e3a6.jpg

An Italian Legend signed by an Italian legend. I think perhaps only a John Paul II signed Wrath of God could possibly out shine its awesomeness. And he's not even Italian!
Can't read the signature. Who is it?

God_Dethroned
02-14-2010, 07:51 AM
It's signed by Dario Argento.
Tenebre is one of the films he made.
Signing a Mtg-Card must have been a very unusual job for him.

Versus
02-14-2010, 08:22 AM
Haha, nice! I had that signed back in the early 90's during what I believe was his first US appearance. I think he was more in shock of American geekdom than anything else.

I got a stack of stuff signed, I just kinda slipped that in the middle. I don't think he even noticed.

mtgsolring
02-15-2010, 04:11 AM
I've been holding off posting this for years. It's just so rediculously pimp, I didn't want to minimize anyone elses efforts, but now the time has come. You are ready...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/KSC2-303/8509e3a6.jpg

An Italian Legend signed by an Italian legend. I think perhaps only a John Paul II signed Wrath of God could possibly out shine its awesomeness. And he's not even Italian!


That's some awesome pimp, congrats !! i really love this :smile:

In the same "spirit" :
* PiZZer0's Ill-Gotten Gains japanese set signed by Iggy-pop !
* A friend in France : Alpha Nev's disk signed by Larry Niven !!!

(for those who don't know the story, the nevinyrral's disk card was a card created in tribute to this SF writer as a reference to "Ringworld")

Occam
02-15-2010, 05:11 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But MAN is that shit uglay.

This, a hundred times this. Also include pirate ships on alpha/beta underground seas, signed or altered summer magic and test prints, the majority of altered p9 and so on.

True black-white albinos look great. There is a huge difference between those and the typical bleached cards, especially as the bleaching process often ends up damaging the structural integrity of the physical card.



* A friend in France : Alpha Nev's disk signed by Larry Niven !!!

(for those who don't know the story, the nevinyrral's disk card was a card created in tribute to this SF writer as a reference to "Ringworld")

Nev's disk was actually based on the Warlock's Wheel in "The Magic Goes Away". I just read it recently!

Atwa
02-15-2010, 06:22 AM
Nev's disk was actually based on the Warlock's Wheel in "The Magic Goes Away". I just read it recently!

Weird, all info I could find on disk from the original source (wizards), claim the disk was actually based on Larry Nevin's books.

Sea R Hill
02-15-2010, 06:42 AM
Nevinyrral's Disk is LarryNiven's Disk. Occam's wrong.

Occam
02-15-2010, 07:11 AM
I was stating that the disk was from the short story "The Magic Goes Away" and not "Ringworld". Both are by Larry Niven. It was based on a circular disk owned by a warlock that continually absorbed mana from its surroundings.

Fatestitcher
02-15-2010, 10:27 AM
If somebody could get his Bazaar of Baghdad signed and altered by Saddam Hussein, that would beat all signed pimp card in existence!

Jim Higginbottom
02-15-2010, 10:49 AM
A little late for that, isn't it?

Nelis
02-15-2010, 10:57 AM
Yeah but it would be the biggest trick in history.

jimirynk
02-15-2010, 10:59 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/jimirynk/Islandbl.jpg?t=1266249478

Hawt?

fyrisen
02-15-2010, 11:56 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/jimirynk/Islandbl.jpg?t=1266249478

Hawt?

I'd rather pay more for this then I would pay for a summer hurricane.

gravemind123
02-15-2010, 12:06 PM
Why is the "All Rights Reserved" written in French and not German?

Is that actually a legit misprint? If so, that thing is amazing!

Occam
02-15-2010, 12:13 PM
Damn you. I need that card for my dark ritual set. I've summer and the playtest ritual. I just need that :(

Anyway, it isn't a real card. Some call it a test print, but it really doesn't fit the traditional definitions of a test print either. Everyone saw the waldfeens posted by Amy Weber on eBay? This is of the same ilk. Thinner cardstock, divergent pictures and cards. Worth quite a bit, but not even 10% of a summer hurricane.

If it's for sale though......

mtgsolring
02-15-2010, 12:44 PM
Nev's disk was actually based on the Warlock's Wheel in "The Magic Goes Away". I just read it recently!

I definitely could be wrong here ! Could you pm me a link to the article or whatever paper you read that in ! That sounds intertesting :smile:

.... and yeah, this DR island looks awesome, too bad they didn't do it with black borders^^

jimirynk
02-15-2010, 07:44 PM
This might be a dumb question but are there foil miscuts?
If so post some.

TOGITwill
02-15-2010, 10:18 PM
Just picked up a foil german signed Meddling Mage from Planeshift. I'll try and post a picture soon.

jimirynk
02-16-2010, 01:27 AM
Two newest cards for my EDH deck.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/jimirynk/0216000026.jpg?t=1266301547

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/jimirynk/downsized_0216000022.jpg?t=1266301587

Skeggi
02-16-2010, 02:35 AM
You play Dwarven Soldier in EDH? I take it you expect alot of Orcs?

jimirynk
02-16-2010, 02:38 AM
You play Dwarven Soldier in EDH? I take it you expect alot of Orcs?

I'ts for the pimp value i know its not a high tide.

I would like to see someone post a more pimp dwarf.

MMogg
02-16-2010, 02:58 AM
I'ts for the pimp value i know its not a high tide.

Well, there really isn't a definitive ruling on split/miscut cards (as in which part is the true card). For tournaments, I'd confirm it with the head judge and just bring along a regular High Tide to be on the safe side.




Speaking of Mana Vault, I too have a Japanese and a German. I'm looking for Chinese one. If anyone wants to trade, let me know. Please and danke.

andrew77
02-16-2010, 03:10 AM
This might be a dumb question but are there foil miscuts?
If so post some.

Not mine, but this one is really cool...

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1277/picture1tn4.jpg

Tha Gunslinga
02-16-2010, 10:54 AM
I play this one in Vintage Oath
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ThaGunslinga/P2160004.jpg

luma
02-16-2010, 12:16 PM
Well, there really isn't a definitive ruling on split/miscut cards (as in which part is the true card). For tournaments, I'd confirm it with the head judge and just bring along a regular High Tide to be on the safe side.


Actually, there is (at least one posted on DCIJudge-L): "A card that has two faces counts as the side with the name showing. A left/right miscut counts as the right side, a top/bottom miscut counts as the lower side, regardless of how much of the card is showing."

Anusien
02-16-2010, 01:17 PM
It's worth noting that the higher-ups at Wizards of the Coast and the Judge Program are now saying that cards that don't have a black or white border aren't tournament legal. Will keep you all posted.

ramanujan
02-16-2010, 01:28 PM
What does this imply?

Are the modified full art cards now no longer tournament legal? Are severely miscut cards no longer legal?
Will miscut cards need to be bleached on the side where another card is showing in order to be legal?

I am pretty curious to find out the intent of thier position.

Julian23
02-16-2010, 01:32 PM
Never really got why people liked miscuts. Ok they're rare but being "pimp" reaches far beyond that point.

UrDraco
02-16-2010, 01:46 PM
Never really got why people liked miscuts. Ok they're rare but being "pimp" reaches far beyond that point.

I believe that the thing which makes something pimp above all else is cost. The most pimp is almost always the most expensive (Korean vs judge Intuition???). Miscut (and crimped) cards tend to be one of a kind and therefore more rare. The more rare, the more expensive, and therefore more pimp.

I personally love miscut cards both for being pimp and because they are really hard to find. When something is too easy to find it isn't fun to collect.

MattH
02-16-2010, 01:55 PM
If you ask me what I find interesting to put in a deck, it comes down to how difficult it is to find, NOT how much it costs to buy. I am not at all impressed by foils for that reason, or foreign cards - I could go on ebay tonight and buy them if I so chose. But finding a miscut card, or a test print, or an altered-art card that looks hell of sweet - you can't just do that whenever you want. Some cards like that may well be the only existing copy!

So that is why I couldn't care less about korean foils or whatever, but I love miscuts, even when they're not worth nearly as much.

This doesn't really have anything to do with what is or is not "pimp", that's a meaningless word to me in the context of Magic. I don't really care if my cards impress you, because when I try to make a deck look good, I have a very limited audience of one.

majikal
02-16-2010, 02:36 PM
This doesn't really have anything to do with what is or is not "pimp", that's a meaningless word to me in the context of Magic. I don't really care if my cards impress you, because when I try to make a deck look good, I have a very limited audience of one.
This. What is "pimp" all depends on your own personal taste.

MMogg
02-16-2010, 05:08 PM
Actually, there is (at least one posted on DCIJudge-L): "A card that has two faces counts as the side with the name showing. A left/right miscut counts as the right side, a top/bottom miscut counts as the lower side, regardless of how much of the card is showing."

Can I get a source/link? I've had this conversation with others and no one could find a rules source. Opinions, yes, but an actual rule, no. So, I'm hoping you can show me something definitive.

luma
02-16-2010, 05:13 PM
Can I get a source/link? I've had this conversation with others and no one could find a rules source. Opinions, yes, but an actual rule, no. So, I'm hoping you can show me something definitive.

No, you can't access DCIJudge-list if you're not a judge, but that quote was from the WotC Netrep (the "official" source for definitive answers).

MMogg
02-16-2010, 05:46 PM
No, you can't access DCIJudge-list if you're not a judge, but that quote was from the WotC Netrep (the "official" source for definitive answers).

Ah... I see. Seems odd that they would make a ruling so clear cut and at the same time so inaccessible and esoteric for the Magic community as a whole.

Fatestitcher
02-16-2010, 06:54 PM
I find miscut cards as pimp especially if they are 1-of's in a deck, like in Vintage for example where most cards are resticted. Miscut powers are hawt, Gunslinga's restricted miscut Chinese Ponder is hot.


it comes down to how difficult it is to find, NOT how much it costs to buy. I am not at all impressed by foils for that reason, or foreign cards - I could go on ebay tonight and buy them if I so chose.

I have to disagree. There are foreign foil versions that are not always available and therefore NOT easy to find. The reason why they can be so damn expensive is because those that have them are only the stores who are willing to let go of them only at a certain price due to scarcity.

andrew77
02-16-2010, 07:30 PM
I have to disagree. There are foreign foil versions that are not always available and therefore NOT easy to find. The reason why they can be so damn expensive is because those that have them are only the stores who are willing to let go of them only at a certain price due to scarcity.


I have talked about this in the past. A lot of people who like english foils have this idea that if they have enough money they could easily buy korean cards or japanese foils. This is completely untrue. The only cards where you can get whatever instantly if you have the money are english foils. If I wanted to waste money I could build any deck in legacy in english foil within a day. Finding japanese foils or korean cards takes a lot more effort and is a lot less dependent on how much money you want to spend, but more on how dedicated you are to tracking down the cards. This is why english foils are not impressive to me.

Here's another example. A lot of people complain about seeing bb duals instead of decks. Well tbh finding a nm alpha underground sea is much harder than building a completely english foil goblin deck. Its not even an issue of price, but of rarity. How often do you see a nm alpha sea on ebay? Not very often. What about fnm foil goblins? Theres tons of those up all the time. Seeing foil edh decks is much more interesting as they don't contain mainstream foils that are extremely easy to find. I personally have a foil binder I use as trade fodder and even though I never tried to build foil goblins or anything like that I can literally pull out over half of the deck in english foil just from that binder and fill in the missing cards with japanese foils and korean cards.

Anyway, how about we try and stay on topic instead of reopening the discussion of what is pimp every few weeks. I'm pretty lazy and don't feel like pulling stuff out of binders to scan them, but I do want us to get back on topic so here are some cards that came in the mail today...

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x223/kmzandrew/ScannedImage-13-2.jpg

UrDraco
02-16-2010, 09:40 PM
I am working on lands in German. May not bethe most pimp language but it is my favorite.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/UrDraco/scan0001-4.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/UrDraco/scan0002-2.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/UrDraco/scan0003-1.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/UrDraco/scan0004-1.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/UrDraco/scan0005-1.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/UrDraco/scan0006-2.jpg

Enigma
02-16-2010, 11:42 PM
I have to say that I'm really not a fan of pimpness, but I have a couple of beautiful cards in my T.E.S. deck:

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/7476/scan100013.th.jpg (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/scan100013.jpg/)

Forget that Dual/LED part and check the black cards.

PS: I'm selling the entire deck if someone's interested.

P-M

Guevera59
02-17-2010, 08:26 AM
Nice! That's totally my tendrils! I'm glad you like it man.

Sigar
02-17-2010, 04:18 PM
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1141/japgoyf.jpg (http://img715.imageshack.us/i/japgoyf.jpg/)

Selling these babies and some other japanese stuff on ebay right now. I hope some sourcer gets them ;D