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sdematt
12-26-2010, 02:03 PM
You can still play with them even if they weren't legal, so long as you owned other lightning bolts. Point being, if I have six thousand dollars in lightning bolts, I don't think there's really a question about tournament legality there: if the Judge has a problem for SOME reason, I'm sure anyone running six thousand dollars in bolts would be happy to show they either own or borrow other copies.

I'm pretty sure Occam knows what he's talking about, considering he's a Summer and rarities collector, and has probably played these in tournaments.

-Matt

Occam
12-26-2010, 02:35 PM
Don't think my word should be taken for granted, least not outside of stuff I collect. In this case, however, the confusion is actually easy to clear up. Misprints can be played as long as they do not obfuscate fraudulently. A card that doesn't have a name (textless, or altered) or doesn't have a readable name still actually has an actual english name, even if it isn't visible or in a language the opponent understands. If you are asked to identify the lightning bolt, the card's name is still "lightning bolt", and the Oracle rules can be retrieved from that if necessary. The card still has to be identifiable, though, so that portion is up for debate, but a card like lightning bolt shouldn't have an issue, least not in a legacy tournament.

The head judge still has the jurisdiction to deem them unrecognisable, of course, but I've never heard of such a case before. I'm going to delete away some of the posts I made as I don't think they really belong here, so this will be the end of that story.

mythical1
12-26-2010, 02:45 PM
And to think I had a chance at one time to pick up several dozen of those bolts for $100 apiece at one time. Never thought they would be worth more than that. Moxes were barely that expensive at the time.

Cool story. Too bad theres supposedly under 20 of these in existance.

Anyway, Grandeur's zoo deck is awesome. It's definitely the most impressive legacy deck I've seen. You really can't do any better unless you start getting into things like signatures and artist alters, but thats not everyones cup of tea.

Atwa
12-27-2010, 06:05 PM
On a slightly[/understatement] less pimp basis, but still pretty awesome (at least for me): I'm having a perfect mint 5th Korean Necropotence incomming for my collection. Still not sure if I payed too much, but since I won't trade it away, value be screwed.

I'll post a pic then I get it (along with some other nice Korean cards in the binder).

BTW, while I was at it, I also managed to reserve a factory sealed Korean Stronghold box. Doesn't fit the binder, but I'm sure I can put it on a shelve somewhere.

jamesh
12-28-2010, 12:30 AM
One of my 10+ pimp decks that I have lying around. Enjoy

whoa moma!

grandeur84
12-28-2010, 03:43 AM
My EDH Rafiq deck. Not as special as the zoo deck but nonetheless very fun to play with even if it isn't entirely optimized.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq1.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq2.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq3.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq4.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq5.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq6.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq7.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq8.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq9.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq10.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Rafiq11.jpg

grandeur84
12-28-2010, 03:44 AM
And my legacy merfolk deck

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Merfolk1.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Merfolk2.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Merfolk3.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Merfolk4.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Merfolk5.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Merfolk6.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Merfolk7.jpg

Finally decided to scan in all my pimp decks instead of leaving them lying around. Enjoy them

phonics
12-28-2010, 03:55 AM
your posts are insane, i love checking out your decks. esp love the foil jap karmic guide and the foil miscut lands
also, i saw 2 planar cleansings in your rafiq deck, did you just scan that one twice by accident? and do you collect any cyrillic language or are you mainly just japanese and korean?

anyways love the decks

PanderAlexander
12-28-2010, 03:57 AM
The total islands in your Merfolk deck alone are worth as much as some whole decks lol. Awesome deck man thanks for posting.

grandeur84
12-28-2010, 04:27 AM
your posts are insane, i love checking out your decks. esp love the foil jap karmic guide and the foil miscut lands
also, i saw 2 planar cleansings in your rafiq deck, did you just scan that one twice by accident? and do you collect any cyrillic language or are you mainly just japanese and korean?

anyways love the decks

Oops scanned the planar cleansing twice accidentally, should have been another card that I can't pinpoint right now. I play with japanese and korean only since I can read them along with chinese cards, the only exception are the set of german fows that I have in another deck.*I stay away from chinese though I can read them very well, since the older stuffs are hard to come by.

Grymer
12-28-2010, 06:34 AM
@grandeur84
your job again??? :p

you have so f**king nice cards........ i just stopped pimping my own decks cus or saw yours.. impossble to mach a deck with yours... very nice decks...

Grymer.

Muradin
12-28-2010, 07:07 AM
Really nice to watch those, not semi pimp shit, but the real hardcore stuff ; ).

Would be pleased if you could upload some more.

lorddotm
12-28-2010, 09:03 AM
The total islands in your Merfolk deck alone are worth as much as some whole decks lol. Awesome deck man thanks for posting.

You should post yours man.

kiblast
12-28-2010, 12:53 PM
To me the top is the minty summer Regrowth. By the way, am I the only one who completely dislike how Jason Chan alters cards?

Plague Sliver
12-29-2010, 01:15 PM
grandeur84: what's the second signature on the FoW?

oRen
12-29-2010, 01:22 PM
those are t. nielsen / richard garfield obviously.

no 7th ed lords :P ?
incredible decks. awesome drain / sol ring / vault :)

The Treefolk Master
12-29-2010, 02:13 PM
I just died of Guru Islands OD. and peed myself.

Windux
12-30-2010, 08:30 AM
Even after this amazing stuff.
Here is my 4c Tempo Thresh. It was perfect against Survival decks, but now....

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Windux/4c%20Vival-Thresh/img044.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Windux/4c%20Vival-Thresh/img045.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Windux/4c%20Vival-Thresh/img046.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Windux/4c%20Vival-Thresh/img047.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Windux/4c%20Vival-Thresh/img048.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Windux/4c%20Vival-Thresh/img049.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Windux/4c%20Vival-Thresh/img050.jpg

Sideboard:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Windux/4c%20Vival-Thresh/img051.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p124/Windux/4c%20Vival-Thresh/img052.jpg

PS: anyone who has 3 Japo Stifle, Non-Foil Japo Demise and 1 Japo Sav Needle: Write me ;)

Ajsmirnov
12-30-2010, 02:08 PM
nice deck and new dazes! can't wait to get mine ones to :)

sdematt
12-30-2010, 03:59 PM
Picked up four new Beta duals today, 2 Bayou, 1 Scrubland, and 1 Badlands. Merry Christmas to me! (again :tongue:). I'll post them Jan 1st, hopefully.

-Matt

Philipp2293
12-31-2010, 02:03 AM
How far are you already with your Beta collection? Since I've got an ok paying job since a few weeks, hopefully I'll be able to contribute sometimes next year.

sdematt
12-31-2010, 02:06 AM
I've got 3 duals (Trop, Sea, Volc, but I'm getting the Volc soon) to get to have one of each, Wheel, the Power (I had some of the pieces, but traded them away for Legacy stuff and other smaller Beta rares), Time Vault (again, I had it but traded for Beta Duals) and a few random crap rares. I think there's 20 something total left to get?

For Beta duals, I'm at 12/40 so far. Not great, but considering I started working on a 40 set of A/B duals a few months ago, it ain't half bad.

-Matt

Masti-core
12-31-2010, 02:17 AM
Hello guys, my first post here: Foil goyfs and nice petals.

http://i1.aijaa.com/b/00383/7232759.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=7232759.jpg)

Grymer
12-31-2010, 04:10 AM
nice russian goyf :D

is there anyone there have a full pimped russian deck??

Shursh
12-31-2010, 05:25 AM
r.i.p. survival, i'll miss you much :(
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KNXGGv-QTmo/TR2uLyb1D3I/AAAAAAAABVk/u9qBHJllvVg/s1024/sur.jpg

time to start playing edh.

yawg07
12-31-2010, 11:55 AM
Wait a second, is that a wild coincidence that you have the exact same language Goyfs as the guy two posts up?

oRen
12-31-2010, 12:13 PM
Wait a second, is that a wild coincidence that you have the exact same language Goyfs as the guy two posts up?

i think it is rus chi jap + english versus rus chi jap + german :P

atropos
12-31-2010, 05:28 PM
Wait a second, is that a wild coincidence that you have the exact same language Goyfs as the guy two posts up?

Whoa I noticed that too. That's quite a coincidence!

Julian23
12-31-2010, 05:47 PM
Second one has a German Goyf; first one doesn't. Just as oRen already mentioned.

yawg07
12-31-2010, 07:02 PM
Yeah I see that now. Still funny haha. Good assortment, Goyf looks good in all languages.

mchainmail
12-31-2010, 08:19 PM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_tEg-Y6ZxKJY/TR59IghhFoI/AAAAAAAAAJc/uv-6dWlY8PQ/s640/scan0003.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_tEg-Y6ZxKJY/TR59I59-DHI/AAAAAAAAAJg/BM_FWaQXA_I/s640/scan0004.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_tEg-Y6ZxKJY/TR59JMBr0zI/AAAAAAAAAJk/5EoYVoZeTH0/s640/scan0005.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_tEg-Y6ZxKJY/TR59JfjmhDI/AAAAAAAAAJo/fN9eBoEIx80/s640/scan0006.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_tEg-Y6ZxKJY/TR59JqsjTkI/AAAAAAAAAJs/4XRkHf7lFjU/s640/scan0007.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_tEg-Y6ZxKJY/TR59eoZAcHI/AAAAAAAAAJw/hJ3Kf6xFdfw/s640/scan0008.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_tEg-Y6ZxKJY/TR59e2D1wDI/AAAAAAAAAJ0/bAOjYKktofQ/s800/scan0009.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_tEg-Y6ZxKJY/TR59fBApuBI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/MGrbV6CU4S4/s800/scan0010.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_tEg-Y6ZxKJY/TR59faOIzbI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/QzuwgJF4N7g/s640/scan0011.jpg


My lands deck. If anyone wants to sell me the missing parts, PM me.

sdematt
12-31-2010, 09:47 PM
Needs more Beta duals. I shall let you borrow them and you can scan them with your stuff. :tongue:

Great looking deck, dude. All English original printing (mostly, or at least good art versions) is hot, and the foils don't look terrible either. Even though I hate foils, your deck looks very nice. Rocking the dual Tabers makes you a champ in my books...

My books (old scan, already posted, but just to prove I love Tabernacles)

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0126.jpg

More pics coming tomorrow (hopefully).

-Matt

Alexeezay
01-03-2011, 08:55 AM
do you know where is the best place to get Russian cards ? (internet)
On Magiccardmarket there are not THAT much, it's not like you can buy a playset of a rare/foil

kiblast
01-03-2011, 09:16 AM
do you know where is the best place to get Russian cards ? (internet)
On Magiccardmarket there are not THAT much, it's not like you can buy a playset of a rare/foil

Getting playsets of russian/russian foils cards all at once is pretty hard. I don't think there is a chance beyond Ebay.

Alexeezay
01-03-2011, 10:26 AM
Ok, just wondered if there's a russian shop or something like that you guys would know of.

spin420
01-03-2011, 10:30 AM
Nice Tabernacles!

oRen
01-03-2011, 10:55 AM
do you know where is the best place to get Russian cards ? (internet)
On Magiccardmarket there are not THAT much, it's not like you can buy a playset of a rare/foil

depending on the editions it gets close to impossible to get playsets of foils.
9th and Ravnica are pretty much available but anything else is hard to track down.

maybe these hints are helpful ...
starcitygames.com
motl http://magictraders.com/
shursh at thesource http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/member.php?25109-Shursh
t$yat$ya" at mtgsalvation http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/member.php?u=17953

regards

grandeur84
01-08-2011, 12:24 PM
Next deck, a slightly older deck.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Bant1.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Bant2.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Bant3.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Bant4.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Bant5.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Bant6.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Bant7.jpg

IsThisACatInAHat?
01-08-2011, 05:11 PM
Those pristine German forces and limited duals are the first images in 203 pages to give me pimp-envy. Those are truly beautiful magic cards, but who signed the guru basics? Is that Garfield?

Shursh
01-08-2011, 05:31 PM
Who signed the guru basics? Is that Garfield?Yes

sdematt
01-08-2011, 07:54 PM
I'll post some more duals when they arrive in the mail (damn you Holidays and your slow mail :( )

Grandeur, nice stuff! Could you show us more of your Summer stuff?

-Matt

grandeur84
01-08-2011, 11:33 PM
Could you show us more of your Summer stuff?

Just a little of those, wont be scanning in my sol ring, demonic tutor & duals, their conditions are way too pristine.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Summer1.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Summer2.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Summer3.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Summer4.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Summer5.jpg

Muradin
01-09-2011, 08:02 AM
How can I see that those cards are summer edition? I can see that the decks grandeur 84 posted are very pimp. But those cards there are just total crappy, white bordered cards, they look quite shabby to tell the truth. This stuff may be expensive, but it still looks pretty ugly actually.

The decks are the most pimp ones I've ever seen however and have many beautiful cards in them.

jjjoness'
01-09-2011, 08:11 AM
How can I see that those cards are summer edition?

Summer Magic has darker colors, and also there's the 1994 copyright plus artist credit.

oRen
01-09-2011, 08:55 AM
But those cards there are just total crappy, white bordered cards, they look quite shabby to tell the truth. This stuff may be expensive, but it still looks pretty ugly actually.
if you do not even know how to distinguish revised and summer none will care about your opinion anyways.

i got to admit that i definitely like the dark coloring on summer cards regardless how rare they are. i like 5th korean as well which also fit into "white bordered shabby looking cards".

thanks grandeur for presenting all that insane summer cards and legacy decks to the public.
one question remains. do you completely unsleeve your cards for scanning them ?

sdematt
01-09-2011, 11:53 AM
You can keep them sleeved and scan them for us, you needn't damage them in any way.

Also, did you manage to pick these up by chance or by careful trading and collection over the years?

-Matt

B.C.
01-09-2011, 03:14 PM
But those cards there are just total crappy, white bordered cards, they look quite shabby to tell the truth. This stuff may be expensive, but it still looks pretty ugly actually.

I completely agree with this. I know how to distinguish between Revised and Summer, but it's not obvious on first glance, so what's the point? Summer cards look terrible, expensive and rare though they may be. That being said, it's pretty impressive that grandeur84 has so many.

jamied1981
01-09-2011, 05:39 PM
So that's why I can't find any summer islands to buy.

MattH
01-09-2011, 06:41 PM
I completely agree with this. I know how to distinguish between Revised and Summer, but it's not obvious on first glance, so what's the point? Summer cards look terrible, expensive and rare though they may be. That being said, it's pretty impressive that grandeur84 has so many.

That si EXACTLY the point. I like summer cards BECAUSE you have to know your stuff to appreciate them.

shaneswa
01-09-2011, 07:30 PM
Christmas present.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs783.ash1/167371_1417772779142_1677311528_789335_7380546_n.jpg

sdematt
01-09-2011, 08:54 PM
For the people that don't notice it, you don't care. The people that do notice it will be the ones who are impressed. When you're playing Summer, that's all you'll really care about anyway.

If some kid came up to me and called me poor for having white bordered duals (but were Summer), I'd let him have his fun and wouldn't say anything. But, when the aficionado comments on what spectacular pimp you have, that's when you care the most, and you feel proud of your collection.

-Matt

Tha Gunslinga
01-09-2011, 11:54 PM
I used to play Deadguy in Legacy. I had all Japanese foil fetches in the deck. 2 Deltas, 2 Strands (fetches Scrubland), 2 Mires, 2 Heaths (fetches Scrubland). No one ever noticed. Ever. So I eventually sold off most of my Japanese foils. Do I regret it? Not at all.

dahcmai
01-10-2011, 01:32 AM
I actually prefer the older editions of each of the cards I have. I don't like foreign stuff much and really push to get the English version. Unfortunately, that means I end up getting alphas a lot for things, but at least they look good. Kind of like Triskelion. I only use Antiquities ones despite the fact there's a foil one out there. I guess I'm just nostalgic. Though I do like Summer and Guru Islands for sheer pimp value. I use Arabians for Mountains, Sunflower Euro for plains, and alphas for Forest. That's about the only exceptions.

JeroenC
01-10-2011, 03:05 AM
@Shaneswa: /jealous. Nice mat dude. How was it made?

pippo84
01-10-2011, 06:00 AM
I used to play Deadguy in Legacy. I had all Japanese foil fetches in the deck. 2 Deltas, 2 Strands (fetches Scrubland), 2 Mires, 2 Heaths (fetches Scrubland). No one ever noticed. Ever. So I eventually sold off most of my Japanese foils. Do I regret it? Not at all.

You were doing it wrong. You get pimp cards because you like them, not to be noticed.

kiblast
01-10-2011, 06:18 AM
You were doing it wrong. You get pimp cards because you like them, not to be noticed.

Also what's the point of playing Mtg to be noticed? Pimp cards is just a part of the hobby, not the main focus. You should not worry of being noticed for playing this edition in that language instead of regular english, you should worry of playing good... :)

johanessen
01-10-2011, 07:53 AM
Guys what's going on? If you don't like pimp, get out of this thread.

Sims
01-10-2011, 08:16 AM
Guys what's going on? If you don't like pimp, get out of this thread.

Slinga still rocks pimp. Just not the typical Japanese Foil that everyone else brings to the table.

Samantha
01-10-2011, 09:28 AM
Just a little of those, wont be scanning in my sol ring, demonic tutor & duals, their conditions are way too pristine.




I think that is more money then even my cube

Dan Turner
01-10-2011, 10:14 AM
I think that is more money then even my cube

I think you misstyped there hunny, that is my cube your talking about , HEHEHEHE. But yea that is a lot of money on the table.

kiblast
01-10-2011, 02:36 PM
Guys what's going on? If you don't like pimp, get out of this thread.

I love pimped decks, don't get me wrong. I just dislike pimping as the only focus of the hobby.

Comrade
01-10-2011, 08:35 PM
I think you misstyped there hunny, that is my cube your talking about , HEHEHEHE. But yea that is a lot of money on the table.

I think you mistyped there hunny. The word only has one "s" in it. HEHEHEHE.

socialite
01-11-2011, 09:59 AM
Slinga still rocks pimp. Just not the typical Japanese Foil that everyone else brings to the table.

Been saying this for months; shit's boring.

jamesh
01-11-2011, 10:32 AM
firstly, haters to the left
secondly, pimpness is essentially related to value - it might be hard for people to deal with, but the reason people value jap foil is fundamentally not because it looks pretty but because everyone else values it and this pushes up the value, thus making these cards more valuable and therefore more pimp
ditto Korean academy
ditto beta duals
and double ditto summer
it looks ugly - no one gives a fuck - it's rare as hell worth a lot of money and is therefore pimp
welcome to capitalism as brought to you via the lens of american gangsta rap

sdematt
01-11-2011, 10:59 AM
Nice minty Korean Swords! Very nice :D

-Matt

sdematt
01-11-2011, 09:44 PM
Beta Badlands came in the mail today. I'll try and get a pic soon, it's NM- :cool:

-Matt

GGoober
01-12-2011, 12:11 AM
I want to see Slinga's crimped Beta Seas/Vaults and miscuts FoWs. He used to have a link somewhere in his sig. I totally gasped at the oddities he posted. Occam (I think his name) also has a bunch of collections that are insane, but Slinga's the one going for the oddball misprints in MTG, which makes it very interesting to watch his decks (post one up slinga!)

jamied1981
01-12-2011, 09:50 AM
I remember the miscut fows they are still my favorite thing ever posted

dahcmai
01-12-2011, 01:27 PM
Counterspell / Brainstorm Mistprint that gunslinga has and will probably always be my favorite I have ever seen.

spin420
01-12-2011, 03:23 PM
:eek: Nice decks grandeur! So awesome!

oRen
01-14-2011, 05:49 AM
Counterspell / Brainstorm Mistprint that gunslinga has and will probably always be my favorite I have ever seen.

i am pretty sure that it is pyroblast / brainstorm. really awesome card anyway.

dahcmai
01-14-2011, 08:32 AM
Couldn't be since it had the Mercadian Masques pictures in it and Pyroblast wasn't in that set. I hate the Ice Age pictures, that's the only reason I remember that misprint so well is it was of my favorite pictures of the cards too.

dontbiteitholmes
01-14-2011, 09:49 AM
Holy crap at kids in a pimp thread talking shit on Summer Magic. That post is probably worth a NM set of Beta power and 10x as rare.

oRen
01-14-2011, 02:05 PM
Couldn't be since it had the Mercadian Masques pictures in it and Pyroblast wasn't in that set. I hate the Ice Age pictures, that's the only reason I remember that misprint so well is it was of my favorite pictures of the cards too.

the miscut i mean was out of ice age. that simply means that he owns both which is not too hard to imagine. ;)
ice age got counterspell as well which made me think you refer to the card i mean.

to keep the thread going ... something neat i received some days ago.
nothing too expansive though but i am pretty sure it is one of a kind - it is signed by bader and maher.

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/hoDXNg415v.jpg

grandeur84
01-14-2011, 11:04 PM
to keep the thread going ... something neat i received some days ago.
nothing too expansive though but i am pretty sure it is one of a kind - it is signed by bader and maher.

I have 11 or 12 of these lying around in my boxes, I'm sure there are more out there but not too much I suppose.

jamesh
01-15-2011, 06:38 AM
so a few years ago i built the fae. deck in standard and block, and now i'm adapting it for extended, i've won most of the extra pieces and i'll update this thread when they arrive in the mail, this is what i've got so far:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/1-4.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/2-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/3-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/4-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/5-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/6-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/7-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/8-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/9-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/10.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/11.jpg
:)

yawg07
01-15-2011, 07:09 AM
OMG so many random asian cards here and there! xD
But all in all it looks awesome! Props on non-MPR Cryptics and Champs Muta! :D

I'd at least make all the Duress the same pic/frame though, I think.
I'd go 4x 'Saga Foil' for them.

jamesh
01-15-2011, 09:22 AM
i've got other duresses - 7th foil eng and saga duress - but for me as a collector i always go for variety, it's an issue when i post a 'pimp' deck because it's always random and peps complain :( but i like the variety in my collection and i ain't changing :)

grandeur84
01-15-2011, 10:52 PM
Yet another deck

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Lands.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Lands2.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Lands3.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Lands4.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Lands5.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Lands6.jpg
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af117/grandeurmotl/Lands7.jpg

dahcmai
01-15-2011, 11:51 PM
I don't know what you do for a living, but if it's not being a male hooker, I would like this job that pays well enough to build decks like this. lol Beautiful deck.

johanessen
01-16-2011, 06:40 AM
very nice deck, only missing korean explorations and manabonds

Nidd
01-16-2011, 09:40 AM
http://serv3.tcgimages.eu/img/cards/Magic_Premiere_Shop_Promos/island5.jpg
Can someone tell me where on god's green earth to obtain this sweet card?

I figured you pimp guys could be the best to ask.

Sims
01-16-2011, 09:43 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/MTG-JAPANESE-PROMO-DCI-FOIL-MPS-ISLAND-2006-2007-/300513972883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f8075293

Guy has 8 of them at $7.99 each. I have no idea what the going rate on them typically is as I don't follow the MPS promos, but it is a sweet artwork. I don't like the big MPS stamp though.

death
01-16-2011, 10:43 AM
MPS stands for Magic Premier Shops in Japan, and they were handed out as promotional basic lands.Those with big MPS stamps were the first ones to come out and I think they're hot. Later mps lands didn't have that stamp anymore. The swamp is my favorite though I mostly play U/B.
http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/pict/320629461069_0.jpg

oRen
01-17-2011, 10:54 AM
yesterdays pickups ...

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/GtRjaeNJ5A.jpg


:>

thebastard2
01-17-2011, 12:17 PM
MPS stands for Magic Premier Shops in Japan, and they were handed out as promotional basic lands.Those with big MPS stamps were the first ones to come out and I think they're hot. Later mps lands didn't have that stamp anymore.

Actually,the first MPS lands are the Ravnica Guild Lands.Link here (http://www.magiclibrarities.net/116-rarities-magic-premiere-shop-promos-japanese-cards-index.html) from magiclibrarities

Klein
01-17-2011, 03:27 PM
A nice deck , with full P9 in Alpha /Beta :D

http://http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6189/dsc0209r.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/i/dsc0209r.jpg/)

http://[img=http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6189/dsc0209r.th.jpg] (http://img403.imageshack.us/i/dsc0209r.jpg/)

oRen
01-17-2011, 05:42 PM
A nice deck , with full P9 in Alpha /Beta :D
I did not found any complete deck but here is what I found in your links.

Beta/Alpha Power:
http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/9gAm5oGSJ2.jpg

Beta/Alpha Twist, Demonic, Ring + Japanese Birds, Key:
http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/ZzW328qjPV.jpg



I personally dislike totally beat beta/alpha cards and would go for near mint unlimited at any time. The second photo is by far too blurry and in my opinion not worth uploading.
Next time resize your images too 800x600 or 1024x800, upload them and use the "Insert Image" button.

so long

sdematt
01-18-2011, 10:08 PM
Finally got my BGS Beta Scrubland in the mail. I'll post my Rock deck in a few days now :D

-Matt

MoxMonkey
01-21-2011, 05:02 PM
my newest pimp but up for sale:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/IMAG0411.jpg

socialite
01-21-2011, 05:05 PM
Nice Mox. I still haven't justified trying to get a play set yet; they go for too much considering their limited uses.

MoxMonkey
01-21-2011, 05:25 PM
It's not german so I don't wanna keep it :P

yawg07
01-21-2011, 09:01 PM
i've got other duresses - 7th foil eng and saga duress - but for me as a collector i always go for variety, it's an issue when i post a 'pimp' deck because it's always random and peps complain :( but i like the variety in my collection and i ain't changing :)


lol of course man, more power to ya :D
The Duresses just slapped me haha, there have been so many versions.

Masti-core
01-22-2011, 08:46 AM
My Urza's Destiny collection.

http://i9.aijaa.com/t/00671/7358648.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=006717358648.jpg)
http://i9.aijaa.com/t/00615/7358647.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=006157358647.jpg)
http://i7.aijaa.com/t/00046/7358625.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=000467358625.jpg)
http://i4.aijaa.com/t/00614/7358646.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=006147358646.jpg)
http://i5.aijaa.com/t/00428/7358631.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=004287358631.jpg)
http://i9.aijaa.com/t/00492/7358617.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=004927358617.jpg)

Dia_Bot
01-22-2011, 09:04 AM
My Urza's Destiny collection.

http://i9.aijaa.com/t/00671/7358648.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=006717358648.jpg)
http://i9.aijaa.com/t/00615/7358647.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=006157358647.jpg)
http://i7.aijaa.com/t/00046/7358625.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=000467358625.jpg)
http://i4.aijaa.com/t/00614/7358646.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=006147358646.jpg)
http://i5.aijaa.com/t/00428/7358631.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=004287358631.jpg)
http://i9.aijaa.com/t/00492/7358617.t.jpg (http://aijaa.com/v.php?i=004927358617.jpg)

Wow, that collection does look really really good!

jamesh
01-22-2011, 09:18 AM
My Urza's Destiny collection.


so, is it the full set? and how did you do it - over time or in a single hit - online? if so which site did you use?
this info. is of value to followers of this thread...

spin420
01-22-2011, 07:38 PM
Not a deck, but random cards I've been collecting.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/spin420/pimpmtg.jpg

dernestor86
01-22-2011, 08:15 PM
hey there, i looked through almost all pages of this thread - really amazing stuff here!
i just got into mtg after a 8 year break half a year ago.

started to make a fun t1 deck, pimped out but only for casual play, i never was a tournament player althoug i´ve won a t1 tournament back in 2001, but that was only 1 of 2 tournament experiences (what is called vintage nowadays).

of course i will post pictures, although this is a legacy thread, but i´ve seen some t1 deck here aswell.

i will have some of my cards altered, which will be:

1x korean brainstorm
2x korean city of brass (i think when altered they are more pimp than japanese foil 7th edition)
4x force of will, language will be altered too, maybe some arabian language. the picture will only be slightly changed
2x power artifact

i dont know if i will alter the korean academy, but i think i will alter the imperial seal, i dont like a whiteboarded card in the deck.

maybe also altered:
korean vampiric tutor
korean stroke of genius
korean time spiral

the money will decide in the end how much i will alter, dont know if necessary to alter everything that is not beta or japanese foil.

i bet it will kick some ass stylewise, cant wait when everything´s ready! =)

to post some of the pictures faster, i also wanted to know if someone does have 4x japanese foil glimmervoid, 1x japanese foil staff of domination and 1x japanese foil thoughtcast because these seem really hard to come by.

keep on posting pimp decks!
dernestor from germany

Masti-core
01-23-2011, 12:51 AM
so, is it the full set? and how did you do it - over time or in a single hit - online? if so which site did you use?
this info. is of value to followers of this thread...

Yes, that is a full set. It took little over a year to finish that.
It's good that Finland is a small country, so you can track most of these pretty fast. Last card I got was Treachery.

jamesh
01-23-2011, 08:41 AM
i dont know if i will alter the korean academy, but i think i will alter the imperial seal, i dont like a whiteboarded card in the deck.

b nice to see an altered academy but a big mistake to alter seal, i've seen a few of them and it reduces their value


i also wanted to know if someone does have 4x japanese foil glimmervoid, 1x japanese foil staff of domination and 1x japanese foil thoughtcast because these seem really hard to come by.

i don't think any of these cards would be that hard to get since they don't see a lot of play in legacy or vintage

dernestor86
01-23-2011, 10:02 AM
hm, dont know, i see only one glimmervoid online and a 2nd one on starcitygames for 20$ but they dont accept paypal from europe.
i wonder why glimmervoid sees such a low play in vintage, every vintage deck is full of artifacts so it shouldnt be any problem to play it. and it can be wastelanded as every beta dual so in a 5 color deck it should be better than duals i guess.

in playtesting i didnt have any problems with glimmervoid.

i´d really love to get me a playset of those, if you know somebody - he can PM me ;-).
not as pimp as korean cities but they will do it for me too.

and altered academies are really nice, got an english one altered, looks really cool, academy in the dark as well as a tropical island in the dark, they are lovely.

but today korean academies are so expensive i dont know if that wouldnt reduce their value.

flrn
01-23-2011, 10:41 AM
i wonder why glimmervoid sees such a low play in vintage, every vintage deck is full of artifacts so it shouldnt be any problem to play it. a

Because people maindeck Hurkyl's Recall and/or Rebuild due to the massive amount of artifacts in vintage.

Tha Gunslinga
01-23-2011, 12:23 PM
Because you have City of Brass and Gemstone mine already if you're playing 5-color Stax, which almost no one is, and because it's really easy to lose Glimmervoid to Hurky's Recall/Rebuild, Energy Flux, Gorilla Shaman, or anything else. It's a very risky card.

samurai_socks
01-23-2011, 03:12 PM
Nice change from all this Japanese/Korean. ;)

http://i55.tinypic.com/8wm63s.jpg

FSM (Flying Spanish Monsters!).

-Cheers-

dernestor86
01-23-2011, 05:33 PM
all right, i see, i see!
then i think i might replace them with one or two gemstone mines and the rest duals.

hehe emrakul is very funny, got myself a japanese foil one too, but non-promo.
wish those were non-promo aswell ;-)

Rebirth
01-23-2011, 06:50 PM
so a few years ago i built the fae. deck in standard and block, and now i'm adapting it for extended, i've won most of the extra pieces and i'll update this thread when they arrive in the mail, this is what i've got so far:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/1-4.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/2-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/3-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/4-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/5-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/6-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/7-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/8-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/9-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/10.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/11.jpg
:)

OMFG DUDE! That is sick, tripple foil Jace? Foil play set of cryptic command, bitterblossom, thought seize and mutavault??!?!?!?!? hahaha i am so JELOUS!!! I don't even care about the fairy sweetness and your epic deck, just those cards... foil jaces!! amaaagaaaad!

I am the brainwasher
01-23-2011, 07:18 PM
Holy lord... . How expensice is this 7th Edition Duress in Asian (sorry, no clue about the differences between Chinese, Korean and stuff)?

JamieW89
01-23-2011, 07:57 PM
Some german ANT cards. 1 FBB Tundra and 3 Chain of Vapors incoming. I have the 4 chants (and some Snow-Covered basics), but they're not on the pic and I'm still missing the 3rd Silence, 3rd Thoughtseize, 2 Seas, 1 Trop and 1 Tundra (Stupid FBB prices >.<) and some Misty Rainforests possibly.
Might not be that special to those enjoying shiny cards in non-western languages, but I don't want to foil my deck when I can't foil everything out and since Beta duals are way over the top I decided on this (and you don't see full german decks that often).

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/9602/germanant.png

Koby
01-23-2011, 10:41 PM
Disclaimer: This deck is not Tourney Worthy. It's a piece of nostalgia for me.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UZ0U9y2rMvU/TTzyF2MngVI/AAAAAAAAAIo/g-SgY6qNZkI/Ponza1.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_UZ0U9y2rMvU/TTzyGBYwb7I/AAAAAAAAAIw/5Ow48QqcBmo/Ponza3.jpg
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_UZ0U9y2rMvU/TTzyF-vTBCI/AAAAAAAAAIs/K5i35RfWLHc/Ponza2.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_UZ0U9y2rMvU/TTzyGKGhF2I/AAAAAAAAAI0/2uSjKQyDdv0/s512/Ponza4.jpg

Chill is a foil Dust Bowl sitting in my EDH deck. I added a few cards along the days, like Chandra Ablaze and red Akroma. Masticore used to be those slots.

jamesh
01-24-2011, 06:20 AM
OMFG DUDE! That is sick, tripple foil Jace? Foil play set of cryptic command, bitterblossom, thought seize and mutavault??!?!?!?!? hahaha i am so JELOUS!!! I don't even care about the fairy sweetness and your epic deck, just those cards... foil jaces!! amaaagaaaad!

thanks man, i'll update it - and mythic/jund, i think i can build them - when i get the final pieces, until then, this is legacy dredge:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/7-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/6-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/6001.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/5-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/4-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/3-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/2-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/1-5.jpg

:)

PaRa
01-24-2011, 07:26 AM
@ jamesh, really like that japo foil Golgari-Grave Troll! I just cant find them..

jamesh
01-24-2011, 08:25 AM
i bought it in Japan - it used to be really cheap, like trygon pred. and spell snare

spin420
01-28-2011, 07:00 PM
Some random new stuff.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/spin420/pimp-1.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/spin420/guruswamp.jpg

RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
01-29-2011, 09:35 AM
This has been bugging me folks, but what's more pimp -- japanese non-foil Wild Nacatl or FNM Wild Nacatl. I keep going back and forth on them.

Whippoorwill
01-29-2011, 09:56 AM
This has been bugging me folks, but what's more pimp -- japanese non-foil Wild Nacatl or FNM Wild Nacatl. I keep going back and forth on them.

I'd go with Japanese non-foil over FNM mainly cause I hate the FNM art.

RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
01-29-2011, 10:41 AM
I hate the art, too :/

frolll
01-30-2011, 04:12 PM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs892.ash1/180013_491213196658_603036658_6280815_877833_n.jpg

its shiny

:{

jamied1981
01-30-2011, 04:26 PM
I like the card and live the language . Thorn elemental used to be my favourite card when it came out.

frolll
01-30-2011, 05:00 PM
fave card as well, and I'm French-speaking, so...

Not really pimp, I confess, but I just wanted to put 'em here ^^

Hope somone will have a good laugh :)

MoxMonkey
02-03-2011, 04:19 PM
My new EDH general:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/168321_1833345630254_1138816534_32115572_4419431_n.jpg

dahcmai
02-03-2011, 09:52 PM
Nice Oros. Always have to have a foil EDH general. I am still hunting a nice pimped out Gerrard for mine.


Anyway, here's one people don't see often. It's from the Hong Kong Magic Club contest. Not tournament legal, but an interesting piece of Magic history.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9972/amillawthemythicaljudicoj8.jpg

Nidd
02-03-2011, 10:59 PM
My new EDH general:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/168321_1833345630254_1138816534_32115572_4419431_n.jpg
I have to say it. I see so many people with german cards while I don't like them. Maybe because it's my mother tongue and it's not really "pimp" in my eyes? Who knows.

lorddotm
02-03-2011, 11:19 PM
I have to say it. I see so many people with german cards while I don't like them. Maybe because it's my mother tongue and it's not really "pimp" in my eyes? Who knows.

Blame Brainstorm.

MoxMonkey
02-03-2011, 11:29 PM
I have to say it. I see so many people with german cards while I don't like them. Maybe because it's my mother tongue and it's not really "pimp" in my eyes? Who knows.

I've always liked german cards. People mainly play asian card here and I'm not too huge on those. So it's all what the owner thinks.

Nidd
02-03-2011, 11:42 PM
Blame Brainstorm.
What's so awesome about Gedankenwirbel? =/

I've always liked german cards. People mainly play asian card here and I'm not too huge on those. So it's all what the owner thinks.
I also don't really... get the hype about asian cards. I prefer *gasp* french cards. Why? I like the sound of it and can speak it quite well, though my written french is terribad. 9 years of torture in school couldn't make me hate that language.
Plus, you know, people here in Germany feel kinda humiliated when beaten down by Narcomoebas. French Narcomoebas.

Note to self: Get french Jaces and french Goyfes.

sdematt
02-04-2011, 12:17 AM
German is considered pimp I think because it's such a guttural language to try and pronounce if you're not a native speaker. As well, it's in Arabic script, so the non-Asian non-Cyrillic readers can try to sound it out phonetically and have a good laugh at our terrible pronunciations. I just love pronouncing the card names, it's so "powerful" when compared to the English counterpart. There's nothing like laying down the smack with a Gotterdammerung instead of an Armageddon. You have to love the excessively long, descriptive name German things have.

-Matt

Occam
02-04-2011, 01:28 AM
Nice Oros. Always have to have a foil EDH general. I am still hunting a nice pimped out Gerrard for mine.


Anyway, here's one people don't see often. It's from the Hong Kong Magic Club contest. Not tournament legal, but an interesting piece of Magic history.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9972/amillawthemythicaljudicoj8.jpg

I own this as well, always find it amusing that they chose a fricking Stallone movie to base the card on.

Anyway, I'm gonna post up some cards that I've picked up over the last year soon, probably close to end Feb. I've posted some nice things over the past couple years (test print EE, foil CoT set, test print BoP etc), but this scan blows everything else I've done out of the water, Exciting times ahead for me.

Nidd
02-04-2011, 01:31 AM
German is considered pimp I think because it's such a guttural language to try and pronounce if you're not a native speaker. As well, it's in Arabic script, so the non-Asian non-Cyrillic readers can try to sound it out phonetically and have a good laugh at our terrible pronunciations. I just love pronouncing the card names, it's so "powerful" when compared to the English counterpart. There's nothing like laying down the smack with a Gotterdammerung instead of an Armageddon. You have to love the excessively long, descriptive name German things have.

-Matt
Donauschifffahrtskapitänsmützenständer. Have fun.

On a more serious note, I'll see whether I can steal someones cam and show the world my (now useless) Loyal Retainers or some other stuff I think you might like. It's nowhere near the level of pimp posted in this thread here, but hey, if I compare my salary to some of yours, it might even be a level higher, hehe.

Mr.C
02-04-2011, 01:44 AM
Nice Oros. Always have to have a foil EDH general. I am still hunting a nice pimped out Gerrard for mine.


Anyway, here's one people don't see often. It's from the Hong Kong Magic Club contest. Not tournament legal, but an interesting piece of Magic history.

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/9972/amillawthemythicaljudicoj8.jpg

So, you have an EDH with her? :)

sdematt
02-04-2011, 01:57 AM
What Stallone movie?

Also, I will have fun pronouncing that. What's the translation?

-Matt

MoxMonkey
02-04-2011, 02:05 AM
It's something about a captain's hat stand.

lorddotm
02-04-2011, 03:02 AM
It's nowhere near the level of pimp posted in this thread here, but hey, if I compare my salary to some of yours, it might even be a level higher, hehe.

Win.

I always wanted someone on TMD to just post a picture of their Black Lotus. The car.

Then I realized Magic players are poor. If we were rich, we would be spending money on cars and bitches, not cards. At least I hope so...

Nelis
02-04-2011, 03:04 AM
Donauschifffahrtskapitänsmützenständer.

Danube shipping captains hat stand. (Its a literal translation it might have another meaning, although I I'm not sure if shipping is the correct translation of schifffart, I'm dutch and not german)


Win.

I always wanted someone on TMD to just post a picture of their Black Lotus. The car.

Then I realized Magic players are poor. If we were rich, we would be spending money on cars and bitches, not cards. At least I hope so...
Well I think If I would've saved my money instead of spending it on magic the past 16 years I would've come close (we'll not really but still......)

Harduvel
02-04-2011, 03:36 AM
Blame Brainstorm.

You called...
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6067/001wxz.jpg

lorddotm
02-04-2011, 04:33 AM
You called...
<Obnoxious picture of a card that should be Spanish Foil>

Look who got The Source to work.

Occam
02-04-2011, 05:34 AM
What Stallone movie?

Also, I will have fun pronouncing that. What's the translation?

-Matt

This one:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GB5k8B2z6Js/S9UgtHFm6dI/AAAAAAAAAIw/OFOxLfB0INw/s400/i-am-the-law.jpg

Amilawthe rearranged.


It's nowhere near the level of pimp posted in this thread here, but hey, if I compare my salary to some of yours, it might even be a level higher, hehe.

Actually, this is incorrect, or at least it is an incorrect supposition to say that high salaried folk would never invest in a game like this. This probably isn't the thread for this, but let me rattle off some advantages of viewing this game as an investment:

1) Unless you run a registered business, this is likely to be tax-free. This is huge, considering that short term capital gains in equities and fixed income are high.
2) There are huge inefficiencies in the game. Not having short selling means cards tend to be inflated by speculation without negative views being allowed to be taken.
3) Cards aren't expensive, and simply put, one of the implicit transaction costs of dealing with other investments is the impact your decision has on the market. For other mainstream insturments, it may be difficult to game the market. For cards, I can have a much larger impact spending 5k overpaying for Tabernacles on eBay and then starting threads about how they are trending up on eBay. Cue Tabernacle's price rising to a new equilibrium.
4) The prediction of sleepers is a lot like dealing with risky penny stocks, but the informational gap for guessing sleepers is a lot smaller.
5) The market for cards is extremely liquid due to its elastic nature.
6) There are a lot of arbitrage opportunities (eg price differences between japanese cards in Japan vs rest of the world) that aren't fully capitalised on because not enough people choose to do so.

There are plenty of other things which make avenues like this lucrative. I'm more interested in typical investment vehicles, and also draw quite a decent salary/bonus, but the unrealised gains I've made from buying undercosted rarities and from owning a lot of old stuff from having started in 1994 beats all the other investment vehicles I'm looking at. And is tax free.

Philipp2293
02-04-2011, 06:11 AM
This one:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GB5k8B2z6Js/S9UgtHFm6dI/AAAAAAAAAIw/OFOxLfB0INw/s400/i-am-the-law.jpg

Amilawthe rearranged.



Actually, this is incorrect, or at least it is an incorrect supposition to say that high salaried folk would never invest in a game like this. This probably isn't the thread for this, but let me rattle off some advantages of viewing this game as an investment:

1) Unless you run a registered business, this is likely to be tax-free. This is huge, considering that short term capital gains in equities and fixed income are high.
2) There are huge inefficiencies in the game. Not having short selling means cards tend to be inflated by speculation without negative views being allowed to be taken.
3) Cards aren't expensive, and simply put, one of the implicit transaction costs of dealing with other investments is the impact your decision has on the market. For other mainstream insturments, it may be difficult to game the market. For cards, I can have a much larger impact spending 5k overpaying for Tabernacles on eBay and then starting threads about how they are trending up on eBay. Cue Tabernacle's price rising to a new equilibrium.
4) The prediction of sleepers is a lot like dealing with risky penny stocks, but the informational gap for guessing sleepers is a lot smaller.
5) The market for cards is extremely liquid due to its elastic nature.
6) There are a lot of arbitrage opportunities (eg price differences between japanese cards in Japan vs rest of the world) that aren't fully capitalised on because not enough people choose to do so.

There are plenty of other things which make avenues like this lucrative. I'm more interested in typical investment vehicles, and also draw quite a decent salary/bonus, but the unrealised gains I've made from buying undercosted rarities and from owning a lot of old stuff from having started in 1994 beats all the other investment vehicles I'm looking at. And is tax free.

@3: Did you already manage to do this, or is this more on the theoretical side? IIRC dahcmai mentioned that he did something similar with Sea Drakes when Faerie Stompy first appeared.

As I'm coming from a financial background, I enjoyed your explanations, well said.

dahcmai
02-04-2011, 06:56 AM
I actually spent $10 on that card back in 2002 or so. It's all about the timing it seems. Most collectors I know didn't really put a lot into their collections, they already had the stuff when it was new and no one else cared about it then.

sdematt
02-04-2011, 08:48 PM
You could very easily do the same with any card whatsoever, so long as it's rare and desirable. Look at any of the cards from P3K that shot up. People bought all of them, announced how they good they were, and then mentioned they were the only ones who had them.

Same goes for anything. If anyone had the money, they could buy all the BIN Beta Duals on ebay and screw up the prices/severely skew them, and people would think this becomes the new price.

In real investments, this is done, and it's also done in Magic. I hear Anacott Steel is the next best thing...

-Matt

socialite
02-05-2011, 01:21 AM
:X

Atwa
02-05-2011, 08:24 AM
Still need in Korean:
Blasted Landscape
City of Traitors
Lotus Vale
Sorched Ruins
Thran Dynamo
Grafted Skullcap
Howling Mine
Temporal Aperture
Well of Knowledge
Copper Gnomes
Nevinyrral's Disk
Mishra's Helix
Phyrexian Furnance

Lotus Vale, Grafted Skullcap and Nevinyrral's Disk can be found in Korean on Magiccardmarket.eu.

Thran Dynamo isn't available in Korean, the last set printed in Korean was Urza's Saga.

sdematt
02-05-2011, 11:23 AM
Ertai, I'm sorry to hear about your terrible problem of not bring able to find them in Korean. But, this is a really awesome EDH so far :D

Do the Urza's Mine, PP, T come in BB Korean?

-Matt

Koby
02-05-2011, 11:34 AM
Ertai, I'm sorry to hear about your terrible problem of not bring able to find them in Korean. But, this is a really awesome EDH so far :D

Do the Urza's Mine, PP, T come in BB Korean?

-Matt

The only Korean sets printed are as follows:

4th Edition (BB)
5th Edition (WB)
Visions
Weatherlight
Tempest Block
Urza's Saga

8 sets in total.

dernestor86
02-05-2011, 12:01 PM
Hi!

Here are some cards from my fun t1 deck for casual play. So far I have 62 of the 75 cards i need for the deck + sideboard.
still missing a beta time walk and beta ancestral recall and imperial seal as the only really expensive cards there.

emrakul and german jace are foil by the way and perfectly flawless. and most of the cards are mint , the sleeves and the scanner are just dusty/dirty

a lot of cards will be altered aswell (at least 20), both image alterations as well as korean/japanese language translations to have a colorful fancy deck in the end.

nothing too special in there, but i like it a lot =)


http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/scan10018knts09y1i5.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)
http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/scan10019thbus79gr4.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

GGoober
02-05-2011, 12:24 PM
Wow I need some German Jaces. Gedankenformer sounds like he's a freaking Transformer Gedankening your face!

Very nice Korean EDH deck and very nice dernestor

Alsorath
02-05-2011, 12:26 PM
I see posts of people not liking foils because of "curling". At least you can play a foil deck without having someone call you lots of bad names for shuffling it and wanting to play. I recently stumbled across my alpha deck and wanted to play with that, lots and lots of bad names...

socialite
02-05-2011, 03:11 PM
Lotus Vale, Grafted Skullcap and Nevinyrral's Disk can be found in Korean on Magiccardmarket.eu.

Thran Dynamo isn't available in Korean, the last set printed in Korean was Urza's Saga.

Can't stand using Magiccardmarket.eu; most people are way off on their condition and I have to go third party as I live in the US.

It's supposed to be Thran Turbine, my bad.

sdematt
02-05-2011, 03:16 PM
I recently put together an entirely B/W aggro deck out of cards from Alpha and Beta. To be honest, I'm not sure if anyone would have done it back in the day, but I'm pretty sure it would have been pretty boss.

It was something like:

1 Serra Angel
1 Sengir Vampire
4 Savannah Lions
4 Black Knight
4 White Knight
4 Hypnotic Specter

3 Armageddon
3 Winter Orb
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Dark Ritual
2 Terror
2 Unholy Strength
2 Holy Armour
1 Bad Moon
1 Crusade

4 Scrubland
X Plains/Swamps

I'll try and find it and post it.

Very nice Korean stuff, though.

-Matt

Philipp2293
02-06-2011, 04:40 AM
Sounds awesome, you have a PS of Alpha/Beta Scrublands? Please post it ;)

Atwa
02-06-2011, 06:16 AM
Can't stand using Magiccardmarket.eu; most people are way off on their condition and I have to go third party as I live in the US.

It's supposed to be Thran Turbine, my bad.

You can safely buy from people like Mirage and Twiedel, they are pretty good sellers. But I can understand, I hated to 3 party when ordering from cardshark back in the day.

dernestor86
02-06-2011, 08:37 AM
Here is my gem mint playset of german underground seas, they are really really nice...
for me german ones are better than beta, i like the bright colors and the high contrast.
i also had a lot of betas so far, but i never considered them as pimp, to me they look boring.

on the way to me is also a japanese foil jace, korean vampiric tutor, another korean sylvan library, korean mana vault and some other nice stuff =)

now it is 66 of 75 cards ;-)


(click on it to get the bigger picture!)
http://www.bilder-space.de/show_img.php?img=523eb5-1296999201.jpg&size=thumb (http://www.bilder-space.de/bilder/523eb5-1296999201.jpg)

Jonathan Alexander
02-06-2011, 09:02 AM
This is my (sadly unfinished) BitterStalker. I dislike Japanese and foils, so I went for Chinese nonfoil.

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7567/bitterstalker1.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/899/bitterstalker2.jpg
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1315/bitterstalker3.jpg
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9866/bitterstalker4.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4869/bitterstalker5.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1241/bitterstalker6.jpg
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2668/bitterstalker7.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9418/bitterstalker8.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3874/bitterstalker9.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4523/bitterstalker10.jpg

oRen
02-07-2011, 01:27 AM
Here is my gem mint playset of german underground seas, they are really really nice...

i don't get why people claim cards to be "gem mint" or "pristine" when they are not.
having really pack fresh, well centered and undamaged (in any way) cards in mind your useas look too fucked up to be even close to "gem mint".

the faerie stalker deck looks cool and is great fun to play. grats :smile:
i'd love to see it when its completly finished.

Occam
02-07-2011, 10:54 AM
@3: Did you already manage to do this, or is this more on the theoretical side? IIRC dahcmai mentioned that he did something similar with Sea Drakes when Faerie Stompy first appeared.

As I'm coming from a financial background, I enjoyed your explanations, well said.

In a word, yes, although I mainly keep this to myself. It's just business, after all. I try not to overcomplicate the finances involved with this game, though, and recognise it more as a hobby than a business, which is why I haven't attempted to make a living from the game. Not saying that I could even if I wanted to, but I'd have a pretty decent shot in my opinion.

Anyway, have just made payment for a certain white bordered faerie stompy critter. If everything goes right (and it will :) ), expect to see it as part of my promised scan, together with the hurricane that I previewed a while back.

Fingers crossed.

socialite
02-07-2011, 12:53 PM
In a word, yes, although I mainly keep this to myself. It's just business, after all. I try not to overcomplicate the finances involved with this game, though, and recognise it more as a hobby than a business, which is why I haven't attempted to make a living from the game. Not saying that I could even if I wanted to, but I'd have a pretty decent shot in my opinion.

Anyway, have just made payment for a certain white bordered faerie stompy critter. If everything goes right (and it will :) ), expect to see it as part of my promised scan, together with the hurricane that I previewed a while back.

Fingers crossed.

Serendib! :D

One of my favorite art works. Most people gawk at a Mint play set from Arabian Nights. With test print Traitors and Summer Serendib you could make one fine Faerie Stompy deck.

dernestor86
02-07-2011, 02:27 PM
i don't get why people claim cards to be "gem mint" or "pristine" when they are not.
having really pack fresh, well centered and undamaged (in any way) cards in mind your useas look too fucked up to be even close to "gem mint".

the faerie stalker deck looks cool and is great fun to play. grats :smile:
i'd love to see it when its completly finished.

they are centered well enough to get 9.0 centering at least, maybe one or two of them 9.5
the rest of the cards is absolutely flawless, and i mean it. every imperfection that might occur comes from the sleeve, maybe also from the toploaders. the cards by theirselves are perfect in corners, edges and surface.

i know the difference between bgs 9.0 and bgs 9.5

sdematt
02-07-2011, 09:25 PM
I wouldn't worry about other people hating on them. They're nice Seas, even if they're not "technically" Gem/Pack/fresh off the presses.

Oren, you should post your stuff man! You should post Stax if you've still got it.

-Matt

oRen
02-08-2011, 11:05 AM
its overconfident to think that any of the seas would get anything higher than 8.5 overall. i would never hate on the cards as they really neat but with the experiences i made i am not able to share your opinion on them.

@ matt ... beside the moats, the elspeths, some guru plains and some of the crap everything of the stax is gone. it was complete non foil english so i guess none would have showed great interest anyway.

well heres some of the signed and altered stuff i got recently for showing at least anything.
http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/vNt9Qlcqhd.jpg

jamesh
02-09-2011, 12:11 AM
extended foil deck 1 - mythic:

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img001.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img002.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img003.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img004.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img005.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img006.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img007.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img008.jpg

more builds to come...

Zach Tartell
02-09-2011, 12:59 AM
more builds to come...

1. Acceptably pimp
2. Isn't Knight not so great when you only have two lands you can sac to him?
3. I like that 7th bird. That's probably the hottest thing that I've ever seen.

jamesh
02-09-2011, 01:22 AM
oh, i didn't include all the other foil basics because i couldn't be @ssed
yeah the 7th bird makes up for the ugly rav. one

PaRa
02-10-2011, 04:01 AM
@jamesh: that is a really nice deck! Really like the 7th bird too!

socialite
02-10-2011, 07:16 AM
Really like the 7th bird too!

Oh that's what that card is, I couldn't tell - looks like a 2nd grader drew on it with a marker.

kiblast
02-10-2011, 07:40 AM
Oh that's what that card is, I couldn't tell - looks like a 2nd grader drew on it with a marker.

Yeah if Beard limited himself in signing only that would have been way better.

jamesh
02-10-2011, 09:06 AM
haters pay homage

Zach Tartell
02-10-2011, 12:05 PM
haters pay homage

More like love it or shove it.

JTAubrey
02-10-2011, 01:53 PM
Haters, seriously. That bird is awesome. I has glasses and facial hair added to look like P Beard right? So good

piZZero
02-10-2011, 04:52 PM
I think this belong more to this thread than the Altered one:

Original alteration by Ken Meyer Jr. Get ready to be rick roll'd!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b32/piZZero/astley.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ-LDffYOgQ&feature=fvst)
(Click on the image to zoom for more detail)

:D

Sims
02-10-2011, 05:14 PM
So glad I'm never going to have to sit down across from you and get rickrolled while being comboed out.

socialite
02-10-2011, 05:40 PM
haters pay homage

T.T

If you're going to get beautiful cards signed at least spend the cash to get a decent paint marker. I'm a hobby artist and I've had decent success with these (http://www.dickblick.com/products/decocolor-paint-markers/).

You literally shit on that card with a sharpie and if you bought it like that I feel bad for whatever price you paid.

All IMO of course.

Edit: Coming back to this I come off rather mean and I am sorry. Foil 7th Japanese is nothing to sneeze at and I just hate seeing stuff go to waste getting drawn on. It's your card and if you enjoy it, power to you. Thanks for posting I do enjoy looking at your items.

sdematt
02-10-2011, 06:39 PM
Whenever I see cards getting signed or Markers posting NM Beta being signed, it's like my balls are being put into a vice. So wrong, for me at least. Some people might like the signing, but I do not.

-Matt

MoxMonkey
02-10-2011, 09:00 PM
Whenever I see cards getting signed or Markers posting NM Beta being signed, it's like my balls are being put into a vice. So wrong, for me at least. Some people might like the signing, but I do not.

-Matt

I love signed cards but always try to find signed copies already before I get one done.

sdematt
02-10-2011, 09:09 PM
Thank God. I appreciate the fact you try to save some cards from the fires of penmanship :P

-Matt

MoxMonkey
02-10-2011, 09:12 PM
The only thing I never get signed is NM vintage stuff. EX or worse I'll get it signed.

Mr.C
02-10-2011, 10:53 PM
Whenever I see cards getting signed or Markers posting NM Beta being signed, it's like my balls are being put into a vice. So wrong, for me at least. Some people might like the signing, but I do not.

-Matt

I love signed cards. I hate slabbing. Go figure :)

MoxMonkey
02-10-2011, 10:55 PM
I love signed cards. I hate slabbing. Go figure :)

Grading cards is the worst thing ever. Even when I buy sports cards I won't touch graded.

jamesh
02-11-2011, 01:22 AM
well since the bird is so, ah, interesting, here's another foil extended deck that features it

extended foil deck two - bant:

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img001-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img002-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img003-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img004-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img005-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img006-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img007-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img008-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img009.jpg

more to come...

sdematt
02-11-2011, 01:47 AM
To each their own, I guess. I slab them when they're nice, so they don't get damaged. I'll be unslabbing most of my Beta duals Walter so I can play them for Mirkwood. But, I'm pretty sure I'll be short a Scrubland or two to be able to play fully pimped out (unless I crack my BGS copy, which still makes me short be one copy). Do you have one for lends until I get my last copy?

-Matt

pippo84
02-11-2011, 04:31 AM
To each their own!

I personally really like signed and altered cards. I'm happy with the cards that I got altered with a marker from the artists, it gives a unique taste. :tongue:

P.S. If I could understand how to post some pics without having to link them from another website I would.. :frown:

mossivo1986
02-11-2011, 05:48 AM
I think this belong more to this thread than the Altered one:

Original alteration by Ken Meyer Jr. Get ready to be rick roll'd!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b32/piZZero/astley.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ-LDffYOgQ&feature=fvst)
(Click on the image to zoom for more detail)

:D

This wins my heart.

Cute. I was hoping to be linked to ... and you got me.

Markers
02-11-2011, 12:14 PM
Whenever I see cards getting signed or Markers posting NM Beta being signed, it's like my balls are being put into a vice. So wrong, for me at least. Some people might like the signing, but I do not.

-Matt

Congrats Matt...you made me join the Source :wink:

As said: I'll get them (to) them all in time :laugh:

I don't really intent to sell those duals or any card in my collection any time soon. Getting cards signed by the artist is what makes Magic so special for me. I suck at the game...Big time. I don't have and don't want to have the time/energy to be the best Magic player I could be. I don't care anymore about what glorious new strategy stumps which format. I just collect signed Magic and if they're even altered by the artist all the better.

Compiling the best and largest signed Magic card collection is enough for me :laugh:

The thing I don't get is the alteration by other people. For me any Magic card altered by anyone but the artist himself is worthless.

Every time a piece of P9 is altered by someone not Dan Frazier/Chris Rush/Mark Tedin or Mark Poole a million angels die :cry::wink:

Occam
02-11-2011, 02:09 PM
A certain Efreet just arrived at its new home today, very happy with the purchase. Have waited for this for a long, long time. :)

I'm pending one last arrival before I think about scanning some stuff I picked up in the last 12 months.

MoxMonkey
02-11-2011, 03:30 PM
Nice! I can't wait to see what you show us. I used to be a rarites collector and still love what they find.

sdematt
02-11-2011, 10:38 PM
Is this the first Efreet you've ever had? If so, congrats! If not, congrats! :)

Markers, you know I like to poke fun at you, but it's all harmless :cool:

-Matt

MoxMonkey
02-12-2011, 02:30 PM
Some extra pimp I have:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/IMAG0439.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/IMAG0444.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/IMAG0443.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/IMAG0442.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/IMAG0441.jpg

The Pharmacist
02-12-2011, 03:42 PM
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/th_IMG_0646.jpg?t=1297542834 (http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/th_IMG_0646.jpg?t=1297542834)

The Pharmacist
02-12-2011, 03:43 PM
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/th_IMG_0645.jpg?t=1297542834

The Pharmacist
02-12-2011, 03:43 PM
http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/th_IMG_0646.jpg?t=1297542834

Xiang
02-12-2011, 05:06 PM
The pictures are too small -.-
I can't even identify the languages

Grymer
02-12-2011, 05:42 PM
yeah impossble to see them ._.'

Atwa
02-12-2011, 06:16 PM
Well, since this thread isn't solely about Pimp Legacy decks anymore, I mean, we have seen Vintage, Standard and Extended deck, painted cars, Summer magic, boosterwalls, random foreign or foil cards and mostly people getting off at dissing other's taste (the car and wall was me, sorry about that), here are a few photo's of my (by far not complete) Korean collection (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=40368&id=100000314824019&l=af63f61472).

Apologies about the blurry pictures. It was the best my Iphone could manage this late.

The Pharmacist
02-12-2011, 07:04 PM
The pictures are too small -.-
I can't even identify the languages

Sorry, I'm not really sure how to put pics up. They came up fine on my computer. I'll try again later

Avatar of Light
02-12-2011, 09:14 PM
Those are the thumbnail links. Here's the proper versions:

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/IMG_0644.jpg?t=1297542834

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/IMG_0645.jpg?t=1297542834

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/IMG_0646.jpg?t=1297542834

jamesh
02-12-2011, 10:02 PM
mmm Karmic Guide, very expensive, very very expensive

The Pharmacist
02-13-2011, 12:07 PM
Those are the thumbnail links. Here's the proper versions:

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/IMG_0644.jpg?t=1297542834

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/IMG_0645.jpg?t=1297542834

http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc506/magicman39/IMG_0646.jpg?t=1297542834

Thanks for helping me out!

johanessen
02-13-2011, 09:29 PM
That Karmic Guide is really nice!

jamesh
02-14-2011, 01:18 AM
extended foil deck three - rdw

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img001-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img002-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img003-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img004-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img005-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img006-2.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img007-2.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img008-2.jpg

(extra mountains omitted)

psu42
02-14-2011, 01:26 AM
I believe the thread name is "Pimp Legacy Decks".

birds of paradise2
02-14-2011, 01:43 AM
I believe the thread name is "Pimp Legacy Decks".

But we do like to see all kind of pimp in here. From what i've seen you contribute with no value at all, so please leave this thread. You won't be missed.

sdematt
02-14-2011, 12:31 PM
It's the pimp everything thread.

Let us gaze upon your pimp, if you have some.

-Matt

MoxMonkey
02-14-2011, 05:14 PM
Just started foiling my new EDH deck:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/IMAG0452.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/IMAG0453.jpg

The Pharmacist
02-14-2011, 05:22 PM
I believe the thread name is "Pimp Legacy Decks".

And you suck at legacy!

birds of paradise2
02-14-2011, 06:09 PM
I prefer not to switch cards between my decks...

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7529/dscn1014ur.jpg (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/dscn1014ur.jpg/)

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thecrav
02-14-2011, 11:38 PM
^RAWR

<fake anger>
Dog gone people like you hoarding duals making them just that much more expensive!
</fake anger>

But seriously, that top row's pretty hott.

sdematt
02-14-2011, 11:43 PM
I have you beat in number of duals total, but I don't have near the many of one dual, holy cow.

I now fully understand while blue duals are more than non-blue: you have all of them. I congratulate your greed, fine sir.

-Matt

guifig
02-22-2011, 09:45 PM
Hey there :)

Here's my Goblin deck. Nothing too huge, just thought I'd show it to you guys, since it's getting closer to a final state.

I went for foils, any language, although I'd prefer the same language in each playset, but apparently I'm destined to have weird playsets. Oh well.

Matrons were altered by a friend of mine :)

I apologize in advance for the focus on some of the photos.

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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0720.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0721.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0722.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0723.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0724.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0725.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0726.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0727.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0728.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0729.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0730.JPG

guifig
02-22-2011, 09:46 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0731.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0732.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0733.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0734.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18375946/IMG_0719.JPG

Also, if anyone is interested in trading my FBB Malaterra for an Ödland, I'd be happy to. :)

Shimi
02-22-2011, 10:10 PM
@Gui.. When I looked at this altered matrons I recognized them!!So I just take a look at your nickname and finally found you at mtgsource!

Gratz!!

PS: Quero jogar contra isso qnd meu TES tiver pronto!!

thecrav
02-22-2011, 10:23 PM
Gonna finally snap a pic of my stuff when I get home.

Any tips for capturing cards well on camera since I don't have a scanner?

sdematt
02-22-2011, 10:39 PM
It can be tricky. Make sure the light is behind and not above you, otherwise you'll get a ton of glare off the sleeves/cards. If you have one, use a stand/tripod, unless you have some fancy anti-shake.

-Matt

guifig
02-22-2011, 10:47 PM
Hey Shimi, I didn't know you were registered here :) thanks, dude! I'll see you this weekend at the tournament.

death
02-23-2011, 12:01 AM
I prefer not to switch cards between my decks...

now that's a baller.

DerFern
02-23-2011, 01:24 AM
Love those Goblin Matrons!

I hope to get the time to post my all-german-all-white-bordered-dredge-deck. I guess you american guys might like it. Stinkwurzbold sounds amazing even if it´s your native language :)

Felidae
02-23-2011, 08:24 AM
It also looks looks amazing :).

And those Matrons are super sweet, thanks for sharing.

PaRa
02-23-2011, 09:42 AM
@Fern: love to see it soon! ;)

98ViperGTS
02-23-2011, 01:43 PM
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/24af0fa9.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/ed95a776.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/0a51f6a8.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/be34e25c.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/3edb2878.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/ebcf615f.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/c15ab16b.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/60d483b9.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/ac40a760.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/c082ad4c.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/1e9fae3a.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/068bd2c6.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/5a217377.jpg

sdematt
02-23-2011, 03:12 PM
Nice stash, Brad!

So, I'm in your will, right?

-Matt

kiblast
02-23-2011, 03:35 PM
The misprint Usea is amazing. Nice Foils too :)

Grymer
02-23-2011, 05:04 PM
yeah realy awesome misprint sea and bazar :)

Fry
02-24-2011, 08:09 PM
I love that City of Traitors and that textless Duress

Occam
02-24-2011, 11:14 PM
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/24af0fa9.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/ed95a776.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/0a51f6a8.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/be34e25c.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/3edb2878.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/ebcf615f.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/c15ab16b.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/60d483b9.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/ac40a760.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/c082ad4c.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/1e9fae3a.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/068bd2c6.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu199/98ViperGTS/5a217377.jpg


Pretty nice stuff. I recognise where all those rarities come from. Am good friends with the duress' previous owner, so hopefully it's found a good home.

98ViperGTS
02-25-2011, 08:21 AM
Pretty nice stuff. I recognise where all those rarities come from. Am good friends with the duress' previous owner, so hopefully it's found a good home.

Coming from you, that means a lot. Thanks. Brian is a great guy. I don't personally know him but I've talked to him a few times. Trust me when I say that they have found a good home. Working on finding them some friends now.

Cheers,

~Brad

Occam
02-25-2011, 11:10 AM
Approximately once a year I choose some stuff I've added to my collection in the past 12 months or so and share them with everyone. This set of cards was a nightmare to put together, both in terms of searching and in terms of cost, and is quite easily the best scan I've posted. Hopefully this one is worth the wait:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/9misprintser.jpg

Some individual scans:

1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

1: Summer geddon.

2:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/SummerHurricane-3.jpg

Blue hurricane. Should speak for itself.

3:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/parallaxisland.jpg

8e test print Island. Some might recall that I posted another previously. This is its sibling, so to speak.

4:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/frat.jpg

Fraternal Exaltation. Should also be self-explanatory. Picked up card #6 first, and simply had to pick this one up too.

5:

Summer Serendib Efreet. The most expensive obtainable card, bar none. To put things into perspective, this is worth twice the next most valuable card is (summer hurricane/sea). Those who know me know that I've searched a long, long time for this. And procrastinated a fair bit as well.

Sadly, I don't have a larger scan I can share of this right now. I'll post one within a couple of days, I guess.

6:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/splendidgenesis-1.jpg

Splendid Genesis. Love the art, love Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

7-9:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/3sotfs.jpg

Foil Exodus Survival of the Fittest Test Prints. I know, I should have posted a playset. That one is coming soon enough, in black border.

A bit of a crappy scan, and I probably should post a better one soon. I'll also post better scans of some of the cards, and possibly some other interesting scans.

If I ever stop being lazy and complete the deck, I'll post my UBrg Doomsday deck too.


Coming from you, that means a lot. Thanks. Brian is a great guy. I don't personally know him but I've talked to him a few times. Trust me when I say that they have found a good home. Working on finding them some friends now.

Cheers,

~Brad

Glad to hear that, and best of luck finding some more stuff to add to what you already have. I managed to find my Island a playmate :)

Rune
02-25-2011, 11:23 AM
The Island is like the ultimate coolest Magic card ever. What did it cost, and is there any reason they printed the art of Parallax Tide on it?

jamesh
02-25-2011, 11:36 AM
\:)

although i'm not big on these types of collectable mtg items, i recognize that you must have spent a lot of money to aquire them - so congrats on that, if it's your thing

98ViperGTS
02-25-2011, 11:43 AM
Approximately once a year I choose some stuff I've added to my collection in the past 12 months or so and share them with everyone. This set of cards was a nightmare to put together, both in terms of searching and in terms of cost, and is quite easily the best scan I've posted. Hopefully this one is worth the wait:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/9misprintser.jpg

Some individual scans:

1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

1: Summer geddon.

2:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/SummerHurricane-3.jpg

Blue hurricane. Should speak for itself.

3:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/parallaxisland.jpg

8e test print Island. Some might recall that I posted another previously. This is its sibling, so to speak.

4:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/frat.jpg

Fraternal Exaltation. Should also be self-explanatory. Picked up card #6 first, and simply had to pick this one up too.

5:

Summer Serendib Efreet. The most expensive obtainable card, bar none. To put things into perspective, this is worth twice the next most valuable card is (summer hurricane/sea). Those who know me know that I've searched a long, long time for this. And procrastinated a fair bit as well.

Sadly, I don't have a larger scan I can share of this right now. I'll post one within a couple of days, I guess.

6:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/splendidgenesis-1.jpg

Splendid Genesis. Love the art, love Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

7-9:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/3sotfs.jpg

Foil Exodus Survival of the Fittest Test Prints. I know, I should have posted a playset. That one is coming soon enough, in black border.

A bit of a crappy scan, and I probably should post a better one soon. I'll also post better scans of some of the cards, and possibly some other interesting scans.

If I ever stop being lazy and complete the deck, I'll post my UBrg Doomsday deck too.



Glad to hear that, and best of luck finding some more stuff to add to what you already have. I managed to find my Island a playmate :)

I've seen most of your stuff before, except the other parallax island, but there aren't sufficient words to explain how awesome that summer efreet is. Kudos to you sir.

Occam
02-25-2011, 11:50 AM
The Island is like the ultimate coolest Magic card ever. What did it cost, and is there any reason they printed the art of Parallax Tide on it?

It definitely cost quite a bit, but it was worth it as the other one I own is my favourite card, and getting the other version of the card was a natural progression when it became available. As for why, I really have no idea, probably just because they could. Turned out pretty good though.


I've seen most of your stuff before, except the other parallax island, but there aren't sufficient words to explain how awesome that summer efreet is. Kudos to you sir.

I posted the hurricane before I believe, stating that it would get into this particular scan. I posted another geddon in the past, but this is another copy.

98ViperGTS
02-25-2011, 12:04 PM
It definitely cost quite a bit, but it was worth it as the other one I own is my favourite card, and getting the other version of the card was a natural progression when it became available. As for why, I really have no idea, probably just because they could. Turned out pretty good though.



I posted the hurricane before I believe, stating that it would get into this particular scan. I posted another geddon in the past, but this is another copy.

If you decide to upgrade your hurricane in the future, I'd be interested in the one that you have.

Cheers,

~Brad

DownSyndromeKarl
02-25-2011, 12:08 PM
Splendid Genesis used to be my favorite rarity, but that Island is giving it a run for it's money. That thing is a treasure.

trivial_matters
02-25-2011, 01:02 PM
Congratulations, that is really amazing. What is the purple mark on the middle Survival of the Fittest?

sdematt
02-25-2011, 09:15 PM
Hey Occam,

The close-up scan of the Armageddon isn't showing up, if you could repost it, that'd be swell :)

Also, I'd love to see the Summer Serendib close-up. As well, if I recall correctly, isn't the Hurricane about 2k, and the Sea is about 4-5? Why is the Serendib tipping the scales at 8 (am I in the right neighbourhood of price?) ? Is it just because it's so iconic, or are there less of them than the other summers?

As well, I'm sure this was in someone's collection. How were you able to persuade them to part with it, or had you planned to buy it for a long time? I'm not interested in your source, since that's your private information, but I'd like to hear more of the story about the generalities of it's acquisition.

Overall, I'm very impressed with your collection. Excellent job!

-Matt

98ViperGTS
02-25-2011, 09:20 PM
Hey Occam,

The close-up scan of the Armageddon isn't showing up, if you could repost it, that'd be swell :)

Also, I'd love to see the Summer Serendib close-up. As well, if I recall correctly, isn't the Hurricane about 2k, and the Sea is about 4-5? Why is the Serendib tipping the scales at 8 (am I in the right neighbourhood of price?) ? Is it just because it's so iconic, or are there less of them than the other summers?

As well, I'm sure this was in someone's collection. How were you able to persuade them to part with it, or had you planned to buy it for a long time? I'm not interested in your source, since that's your private information, but I'd like to hear more of the story about the generalities of it's acquisition.

Overall, I'm very impressed with your collection. Excellent job!



-Matt

Hurricane is 3.5K in nice shape. Sea prob wouldn't go for less than 5k now, if you can find one.

sdematt
02-26-2011, 03:39 AM
My Beta Volc came in the mail today. Huzzah!

-Matt

Occam
02-26-2011, 03:53 AM
If you decide to upgrade your hurricane in the future, I'd be interested in the one that you have.

Cheers,

~Brad

I'm definitely interested in upgrading, but a lot of summer cards are lower than mint these days due to their origin. This one is pretty unique for being labelled as revised by the good folk at PSA, though.


Splendid Genesis used to be my favorite rarity, but that Island is giving it a run for it's money. That thing is a treasure.

Thanks, I really like the two Islands too (I like Splendid Genesis as well, of course). I'll try to post a picture of the Islands together, side by side, together with scans of the geddon and the efreet soon.


Congratulations, that is really amazing. What is the purple mark on the middle Survival of the Fittest?

A lot of legitimate exodus foil test prints (silver bordered ones) were marked as part of batches. All the sotfs here (and the cots from before as well as other prints) are 100% legitimately obtained. Not saying that clean silver bordered ones were illegally obtained, though.


Hey Occam,

The close-up scan of the Armageddon isn't showing up, if you could repost it, that'd be swell :)

Also, I'd love to see the Summer Serendib close-up. As well, if I recall correctly, isn't the Hurricane about 2k, and the Sea is about 4-5? Why is the Serendib tipping the scales at 8 (am I in the right neighbourhood of price?) ? Is it just because it's so iconic, or are there less of them than the other summers?

As well, I'm sure this was in someone's collection. How were you able to persuade them to part with it, or had you planned to buy it for a long time? I'm not interested in your source, since that's your private information, but I'd like to hear more of the story about the generalities of it's acquisition.

Overall, I'm very impressed with your collection. Excellent job!

-Matt

I didn't have one handy, to be honest, same as the efreet. Wasn't sure that people wanted to look at arguably the cheapest card in that scan.

As Brad above stated, Hurricanes are typically at least 3.5k. Some people speculated that they would be obtainable for about 2-ish grand a couple of years back, but not only has that never happened, but hurricanes have been moving for well over that amount. Summer prices are a bit weird too -- I'd put sea/hurricane in the exact same price bucket -- you'd expect sea to be higher, but I know of one EX one that moved for about 3k, and a NM+ one that went for 3.7k, same as another hurricane that went at about the same time. You also have Tropical Islands going for less than Volcanics and Tundras, and so on.

The Efreet goes for about 8ish because people took its correct printing to be a misprint of sorts, when put against the misprint revised one. That, and the fact that it is rare, meant that it easily became the most expensive summer card pretty quickly after the summer boom in the early noughties. If hurricane were a rare, that would be an interesting tussle, but I reckon the efreet will still come out on top.

As for sources, I pretty much laid out the groundwork to get the efreet a long time ago, with prices agreed on etc. Which was why I passed on the one on ebay last year. I pushed back on the actual purchase date as I was busy bringing in some of the other stuff you see in this scan and the last, but it was already done and dusted some time ago. It also helped matters that these rarities were going to a good home -- something I'd like to see if I ever sell in the future. For the test foil EE, I probably got it for a tad lower due to that, as its previous owner informed me when I spoke to the person.

dahcmai
02-26-2011, 04:33 AM
Quick question, is that Serindib the only one with that picture not counting the Arabian one? I recently acquired one that was white border (in Spanish or Portuguese) with that picture and was wondering about why it had the old pic on it. It's the only one I have seen that was white bordered with the correct picture and was not a Summer.

bruizar
02-26-2011, 05:16 AM
Occam: I've heard someone talk about a green-foil City of Traitors, and that there are only 5 of them in the world. Can you confirm this?

Atwa
02-26-2011, 05:57 AM
Quick question, is that Serindib the only one with that picture not counting the Arabian one? I recently acquired one that was white border (in Spanish or Portuguese) with that picture and was wondering about why it had the old pic on it. It's the only one I have seen that was white bordered with the correct picture and was not a Summer.

Only the english revised versions have a green border. This is why the german revised bb and wb versions fetch way more then their English counterparts in comparinson to other revised cards (extremes like the bb Duals excluded). Never seen spanish versions of it, so I can't say anything about price, but all non-English revised Serendibs have blue borders and the original art.

sdematt
02-26-2011, 12:03 PM
Wow, I've been a bad boy. I just bought another Beta Dual, but a NM Scrubland. Impulse buying for the win!

Now, I'm at a crossroads: I now have 4 Beta Scrublands, 1 Pack fresh, 1 NM, 1 EX/Ex+, and one BGS 7.5. I'm tempted to crack the 7.5 to play with, since it was so difficult finding a beta copies (I could have completed this months ago if I accepted Alpha, seriously), and I'd like to play them in my Rock deck. When I'm not using them in tournaments, I'll binder/slab them anyway, so I figure I might as well enjoy it when I want to, and slab it afterwards rather than being slabbed without playability. If it were graded 8 and up, I wouldn't, but I figure 7.5 is fine. I'll post a scan before I crack it, though.

Thoughts?

-Matt

Xeen
02-26-2011, 01:15 PM
Crack it! I bought a PSA 7 Lotus 3 years ago and cracked it, too. These cards are made for seeing play not for having an inch thick layer of dust on them in a safe.
Let it breathe!

sdematt
02-26-2011, 04:02 PM
I decided to scan them, since I had taken all of them out of their cases for a large tournament tomorrow to put in the Pimp binder. I know you're all still hard from Brad and Occam's posts, so hopefully this pitiful case of greed in comparison is somewhat liked :P

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0164.jpg

Savannah: Alpha Ex- (hey, it was $80, I couldn't resist)
Plateau: Beta, Ex/Ex+ (back has some wear)
Left Scrubland: Beta, NM- (the smudges are on the sleeves)
Middle Scrubbie: Beta, Ex+/Nm- ( a few nicks here and there)
Right: BGS Beta Scrub
Left Bayou: Ex+ Beta, some nicks.
Middle Bayou: Ex Inked Beta. No reason to ink an Ex or better anything, so sad.
Right Bayou: NM/NM+ Beta, trace amount of wear 1cm to the right of the title on the top border, with small printing circle. That's the only flaw, rest is on the sleeve.


http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0165.jpg

Tundra: Ex+/NM- Beta, tiny nicks.
Volcanic: Ex/Ex+ Beta, traded a Tundra in similar shape for it.
Left Badlands: Overall NM- Beta except for wear patch on the left, bringing it down a bit. I didn't look at the left edge, only the wear on the right corners, and it was on a white background, so I didn't notice the other side right away. I got it in the mail and freaked and rechecked the scan. I wondered why I got a smoking deal on it. I found out why and was sad :(
Right Badlands: Nm- Beta through and through. Minuscule dings.

Enjoy! I'll post my new Taiga, Bayou, and Scrubland when they come in the mail.

-Matt

98ViperGTS
02-26-2011, 04:15 PM
Awesome job Matt. Beautiful collection of Beta Duals ;)

thulnanth
02-26-2011, 05:00 PM
Hey Matt,

Nice job - glad to see how it's coming along after following your quest :cool:

A side note...

After seeing your cards and reading your grading of them (which is probably accurate considering your activity in the MOTL/MtG market) I have a better idea why I'm always so upset when I buy cards. I think I'm only happy if they came from the latest expansion - everything else seems way too "beat up" to me; perhaps I am too fussy these days (lol). :laugh:

Take it easy,
Jared

PS - go ahead and crack... anything less than a 9 should be free and sleeved for all to see!!!

Occam
02-26-2011, 09:12 PM
Occam: I've heard someone talk about a green-foil City of Traitors, and that there are only 5 of them in the world. Can you confirm this?

Yeah they exist, if you are talking about green textbox borders. You can see an example here:

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/718-rarities-test-prints-press-checks-and-production-anomalies-english-cards-city-of-traitors-black--border.html

There are definitely more than 5 of those, as they aren't any rarer than the ones with other textbox colours. You can take that from someone who would profit from these being that rare.

@Sdematt: Nice duals, and the Scrubland you mentioned seemed worthwhile to me. In any case, I never sweat small margins on cards if the alternative means a lot more hassle and inconvenience.

guifig
02-26-2011, 10:13 PM
Wow, these last two pages are mind-blowing. Impressive stuff, both Occam and sdematt. :)

(good thing I posted my goblin deck before they posted their collections)

KindGrind
02-26-2011, 11:53 PM
Regarding Occam's Splendid Genesis / Fraternal Exaltation posted earlier... How much are these valued at, roughly? I've always wondered that!

death
02-26-2011, 11:59 PM
Wow, these last two pages are mind-blowing. Impressive stuff, both Occam and sdematt. :)

Yep!

Anybody here has a 1996 World Champion? Please amaze us.

DownSyndromeKarl
02-27-2011, 12:18 AM
Yep!

Anybody here has a 1996 World Champion? Please amaze us.

wasn't that a one of?

98ViperGTS
02-27-2011, 12:28 AM
Regarding Occam's Splendid Genesis / Fraternal Exaltation posted earlier... How much are these valued at, roughly? I've always wondered that!

Roughly 2K on the Genesis, 1.5K on the Fraternal.

Mr.C
02-27-2011, 02:20 AM
Wow, I've been a bad boy. I just bought another Beta Dual, but a NM Scrubland. Impulse buying for the win!

Now, I'm at a crossroads: I now have 4 Beta Scrublands, 1 Pack fresh, 1 NM, 1 EX/Ex+, and one BGS 7.5. I'm tempted to crack the 7.5 to play with, since it was so difficult finding a beta copies (I could have completed this months ago if I accepted Alpha, seriously), and I'd like to play them in my Rock deck. When I'm not using them in tournaments, I'll binder/slab them anyway, so I figure I might as well enjoy it when I want to, and slab it afterwards rather than being slabbed without playability. If it were graded 8 and up, I wouldn't, but I figure 7.5 is fine. I'll post a scan before I crack it, though.

Thoughts?

-Matt

You know my opinion. I shuffle my English Recruiters, and last I checked they are worth more than Beta duals :p

Mr.C
02-27-2011, 02:23 AM
Quick question, is that Serindib the only one with that picture not counting the Arabian one? I recently acquired one that was white border (in Spanish or Portuguese) with that picture and was wondering about why it had the old pic on it. It's the only one I have seen that was white bordered with the correct picture and was not a Summer.

Yours is Italian. No Revised in Portuguese or Spanish, or else I'd have piles, and I mean PILES of FBB duals :/