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oRen
01-24-2012, 08:16 AM
Fay Jones is a very rare signature. I mean, you're the "pimp" guy who shits on other people's cards from time to time, you should understand the concept of "hard to find".
I mostly "shit" on people like you when I do. I rarely hate on cards themselves. Also I mostly remained calm and silent because of the all cancer and hatred spreaded here for so long and you seem like warming up some of this good old shitty rant. Props from my side.

Proven fact - they are available in (very) low quantities on the secondary market which makes them not as hard to find as cards which are simply not existent. Not offending anyone saying the signature is rare but I could obviously get more excited. The point was mostly even if I did not put it this way in the other post - out of the 302 beta cards of that particular set someone is like "OMFZG A SIGNED STASIS" which way overrates the card compared to the others.

snappingbowls | ಠ_ಠ
01-24-2012, 11:58 AM
Signed Stasis are sweet. They're really hard to find, Beta signed Stasis is a pimp card.

Oren are you saying that they're not sweet? I don't get it, what's not cool about it.

jamesh
01-24-2012, 12:32 PM
Signed Stasis are sweet. They're really hard to find, Beta signed Stasis is a pimp card.

Oren are you saying that they're not sweet? I don't get it, what's not cool about it.

your pimp is not anothers
what some people like others don't
i don't have a problem with signing but i sure as shit wouldn't get my beta set graffiti'd (esp. the jewellery)
a set of foil innistrad might be pimp for some, others want PSA 10 alpha or a summer set
how much is a beta signed statis - a hundred bucks, a thousand?
not much in the scheme of things

oRen
01-24-2012, 01:21 PM
Overrating something because of lack of knowledge (I even saw signed copies selling on ebay a while back iirc) and getting inadequately overexcited is something I am not capable to completely understand while I appreciate the Stasis; the set overall and the fact that Markers got some spotlight on his collection.

subzero
01-24-2012, 01:56 PM
hi guys,
i have a question,

in a deck like sneak-show, where many cards don t exist foil(sneak,show, tomb,city(and other foil are only promo(petal,intuition), is better for pimp, use some foil for complete, or make all deck, russian-japanese (but all not foil)
because i see that for some people, are more pimp russian-japanese not foil, than foil eng(or other european language)

best regards

socialite
01-24-2012, 02:20 PM
hi guys,
i have a question,

in a deck like sneak-show, where many cards don t exist foil(sneak,show, tomb,city(and other foil are only promo(petal,intuition), is better for pimp, use some foil for complete, or make all deck, russian-japanese (but all not foil)
because i see that for some people, are more pimp russian-japanese not foil, than foil eng(or other european language)

best regards

Should I buy a Ford Focus or a GMC Sierra? No fucking clue. How about you do what you like instead asking others? Isn't that the whole point of a hobby such as this?

nedleeds
01-24-2012, 03:14 PM
hi guys,
i have a question,

in a deck like sneak-show, where many cards don t exist foil(sneak,show, tomb,city(and other foil are only promo(petal,intuition), is better for pimp, use some foil for complete, or make all deck, russian-japanese (but all not foil)
because i see that for some people, are more pimp russian-japanese not foil, than foil eng(or other european language)

best regards

I mean if you want sheer monetary value then that's one track. Problem with that is sometimes you can't win, short of getting all summer magic duals and crimped / miscut double signed, Axel Rose signed, Korean Sneak Attacks.

I'd say play what you think looks cool. I think foils look terrible, and remind me of crap like Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon, others love them. I don't like Jap cards and prefer Russian, German, Chinese or Korean. That being said if you post on here certain people will crap on you and others will appreciate the effort you went through in posting your deck.

Octopusman
01-24-2012, 03:45 PM
I mean if you want sheer monetary value then that's one track. Problem with that is sometimes you can't win, short of getting all summer magic duals and crimped / miscut double signed, Axel Rose signed, Korean Sneak Attacks.

I'd say play what you think looks cool. I think foils look terrible, and remind me of crap like Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon, others love them. I don't like Jap cards and prefer Russian, German, Chinese or Korean. That being said if you post on here certain people will crap on you and others will appreciate the effort you went through in posting your deck.

My problem with pimping in general is you can almost always go bigger. Sorry, but there are tournament legal foil cities. They probably just cost $5-10K.
So... why bother pimping a deck that uses city of traitors since it can't possibly be the "best" unless you're Occam or similar?

You can have awesome stuff, but then people will always say "you need to upgrade such and such to misscut crimped summer" or use your imagination.

Choose an aesthetic that you think is awesome, stick to it and decide to be in the camp that believe's pimp is in the eye of the beholder instead of what is strictly the most expensive.

Good luck!

coraz86
01-24-2012, 05:33 PM
Should I buy a Ford Focus or a GMC Sierra? No fucking clue. How about you do what you like instead asking others? Isn't that the whole point of a hobby such as this?

Thank you.

When I get my latest shipment in the mail (thanks Marvin!), I'm posting my Eva Green list here. It's all mismatched, but that's because I had to grab deals on whatever I could so I could give my English non-foils to a close friend as a wedding gift in June. Between the trades made and tournaments raided to assemble the gift and the look on my boy's face when he opened it, the memories I associate with all my pimp shit are all the validation I need.

I mean, he hugged me. He's only done that two other times ever. Pretty good sign I hit a home run.

/high horse

Seriously, subzero; if you're proud of your deck, show it off. Some people will appreciate the cards, some will appreciate the effort that went into acquiring them, some won't give a fuck. Long as you fit all three of the above, more power to ya.

UnderwaterGuy
01-24-2012, 06:06 PM
long time no see...
everything that can be foil is foil..

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6959/lololdasodasld.jpg

3 Breakthrough :eek: ?

nedleeds
01-24-2012, 07:09 PM
My problem with pimping in general is you can almost always go bigger. Sorry, but there are tournament legal foil cities. They probably just cost $5-10K.
So... why bother pimping a deck that uses city of traitors since it can't possibly be the "best" unless you're Occam or similar?

You can have awesome stuff, but then people will always say "you need to upgrade such and such to misscut crimped summer" or use your imagination.

Choose an aesthetic that you think is awesome, stick to it and decide to be in the camp that believe's pimp is in the eye of the beholder instead of what is strictly the most expensive.

Good luck!

QFT. That being said ... my Dreadnaughts are awesome.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EdqFhDLSs88/Tx9Fuy7dr1I/AAAAAAAAAMs/dVBFpTSUufs/s640/NaughtsAndFriends.png

Purgatory
01-24-2012, 07:15 PM
I had to grab deals on whatever I could so I could give my English non-foils to a close friend as a wedding gift in June.

You gave a friend Magic cards for a wedding present?

Suddenly, I feel a lot more strongly about getting married! ;)

hukstor
01-24-2012, 09:58 PM
http://i.imgur.com/cPwwD.jpg
Got to finish this playset recently :) ... one of my favorite cards

Aggro_zombies
01-24-2012, 10:23 PM
You gave a friend Magic cards for a wedding present?

Suddenly, I feel a lot more strongly about getting married! ;)
On the other hand, his new wife will probably make him quit.

@hukstor: Gorgeous. I've been looking for foil Russion Loams for a while.

Richard Cheese
01-24-2012, 11:03 PM
Should I buy a Ford Focus or a GMC Sierra? No fucking clue. How about you do what you like instead asking others? Isn't that the whole point of a hobby such as this?

Go for the Focus, no contest.

Mr.C
01-24-2012, 11:13 PM
I mostly "shit" on people like you when I do. I rarely hate on cards themselves. Also I mostly remained calm and silent because of the all cancer and hatred spreaded here for so long and you seem like warming up some of this good old shitty rant. Props from my side.


No, you actually shit on anything that's not Japanese or Korean. Take a hint, seriously, you're easily one of the most negative people I have seen posting on these threads. Arrogant, almost.


Overrating something because of lack of knowledge (I even saw signed copies selling on ebay a while back iirc) and getting inadequately overexcited is something I am not capable to completely understand while I appreciate the Stasis; the set overall and the fact that Markers got some spotlight on his collection.

Spending a ton of money on overpriced Japanese foils does not make you more knowledgeable, fyi. I've been around too. They are rare, hard to find, and yes I was "overexcited" when I received my package back from Ms. Jones, with way more cards than I originally sent.

To me, contacting and actually talking to artists, especially the obscure ones, is an experience in itself. It's very interesting to me.

Likewise, I have collected Portuguese foils for years. Nobody really cares about it, but the hunt is fun. I respect that people's definition of what is cool varies a lot. I don't see the allure of Japanese Foil (and now Russian), but I respect the time people take tracking down what they would love to have. You, on the other hand, have a very narrow vision of what something cool is.


hi guys,
i have a question,

in a deck like sneak-show, where many cards don t exist foil(sneak,show, tomb,city(and other foil are only promo(petal,intuition), is better for pimp, use some foil for complete, or make all deck, russian-japanese (but all not foil)
because i see that for some people, are more pimp russian-japanese not foil, than foil eng(or other european language)

best regards

Whatever you feel is cool. If it was me, and if I were doing a full most-expensive-japanese version deck, I'd Japanese where available, Foil Japanese where available, and Beta the rest.

@hukstor: Awesome set!

nedleeds
01-24-2012, 11:38 PM
Example: I've been playing Magic for quite some time. I've seen a ton of Foil Jap Golgari Thugs ... I've never seen a signed Stasis. It was pretty sweet to see one. That being said, when somebody posts a foil jap dredge deck I don't crap on them. I just ... say nothing.

phonics
01-25-2012, 02:42 AM
No, you actually shit on anything that's not Japanese or Korean. Take a hint, seriously, you're easily one of the most negative people I have seen posting on these threads. Arrogant, almost.



Spending a ton of money on overpriced Japanese foils does not make you more knowledgeable, fyi. I've been around too. They are rare, hard to find, and yes I was "overexcited" when I received my package back from Ms. Jones, with way more cards than I originally sent.

To me, contacting and actually talking to artists, especially the obscure ones, is an experience in itself. It's very interesting to me.

Likewise, I have collected Portuguese foils for years. Nobody really cares about it, but the hunt is fun. I respect that people's definition of what is cool varies a lot. I don't see the allure of Japanese Foil (and now Russian), but I respect the time people take tracking down what they would love to have. You, on the other hand, have a very narrow vision of what something cool is.



Whatever you feel is cool. If it was me, and if I were doing a full most-expensive-japanese version deck, I'd Japanese where available, Foil Japanese where available, and Beta the rest.

@hukstor: Awesome set!

I think that it is a combination of differing cultures (italy v america/canada) and english as a second language (I assume) that makes his posts abrasive. Pretty much every 5 pages someone has to bring up the fact that pimping is subjective, beat those dead horses.

DownSyndromeKarl
01-25-2012, 08:33 AM
You gave a friend Magic cards for a wedding present?

Suddenly, I feel a lot more strongly about getting married! ;)

On this topic: As an inside joke for a friend's(psu42) wedding, we(myself, RocketRae21 and the other groomsman) all signed a foil Skizzik and gave it to him on his wedding day. We also stayed up all night in the hotel room lobby cube drafting.

On the topic of the thread: German Dreadnoughts are awesome! Also, with all that Russian stuff earlier, I've yet to see a Russian Goyf, anyone have one?

sdematt
01-25-2012, 09:56 AM
I don't have one, but I've seen a decent number of them.

-Matt

Picc
01-25-2012, 10:11 AM
You gave a friend Magic cards for a wedding present?

Suddenly, I feel a lot more strongly about getting married! ;)

More common then you think, I'm giving a buddy a 4th edition set for a present at his bachelor party this summer. Ive known him since grade school when we use to go to the variety store and crack packs over lunch.

oRen
01-25-2012, 11:53 AM
No, you actually shit on anything that's not Japanese or Korean. Take a hint, seriously, you're easily one of the most negative people I have seen posting on these threads. Arrogant, almost.

Spending a ton of money on overpriced Japanese foils does not make you more knowledgeable, fyi.


Look. My entire deck building pool is nowadays German/English(/French/Italian) non foil and I generally never hated on anyone for not going foil / jap foil / kor / whatever. Your core statements are far fetched and simply wrong which leaves me stunned. I dislike non artist altered cards and edition wise mixed up playsets though but this is only personal matter I rarely expressed here. My arguments here resulted out of picking up opportunities to rant and a lot of butthurt on different sides. I do not want to go back to that point.
If you want to waste your time - try to proof the opposite.

Take the following as a hint. Try to act less like a lifeless prick who picks up opportunities on the internet to argue with people from around the globe for nothing. I got it at some point in the past and you might also be able to get it. Also I am pretty sure that (nearly) none gives a fuck on your boring pointless tales.

---

Back to topic ... I got something nice today.

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/4UjYmyaanm.jpg

kiblast
01-25-2012, 01:14 PM
Those Seas are amazing oRen! It's a pity that they were signed in silver instead of black sharpie though. Probably they were altered and signed in two different occasions. Lovely set anyways.

hukstor
01-25-2012, 01:41 PM
Also, with all that Russian stuff earlier, I've yet to see a Russian Goyf, anyone have one?

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/879/001kxu.jpg

coraz86
01-25-2012, 05:33 PM
On the other hand, his new wife will probably make him quit.

Actually, she's gone to a couple tournaments with him. We've gotten her to like playing Eva Green/Junk, too.

Also, we got him a Magic-themed birthday cake. The store fucked it up--it was supposed to be an edible card (which you wouldn't think would be so difficult)--but here it is, since the browser's broken already;

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/coraz86/1211111659.jpg

No offense meant, hukstor; that Goyf is phenomenal.

EDIT: sorry for the goof, kids. (Bonus; turns out the pic fits the screen now, too.)

Purgatory
01-25-2012, 05:45 PM
Pic of birthday cake: y u no loading?

oRen
01-25-2012, 05:58 PM
Those Seas are amazing oRen! It's a pity that they were signed in silver instead of black sharpie though. Probably they were altered and signed in two different occasions. Lovely set anyways.
Thanks a lot. I hope we can leave our past disputes behind. I bought it privately out of 1st hand from a Spanish guy and I am pretty sure that he wanted the set to be this way. I am looking forward to meeting R. Alexander and getting it signed in black and altered (multi colored would be insane!) furthermore. To me it "hurts" more that the set is not in one language ... but anyone always greatly overpays for "perfect" cards or sets so I am more than happy with what I got.

---

Very nice cake :)

kiblast
01-25-2012, 06:21 PM
I am looking forward to meeting R. Alexander and getting it signed in black and altered furthermore. To me it "hurts" more that the set is not in one language ... but anyone always greatly overpays for "perfect" cards or sets so I am more than happy with what I got.


I've seen some interesting 2 tones alterations made by Alexander (the most common colour combination was black and white). I think some colour addition would make that set even more cool.Regarding the language question, I noticed it, but when you menage to get such a nice set the language is secondary imho.


Thanks a lot. I hope we can leave our past disputes behind.

Of course.

DownSyndromeKarl
01-26-2012, 12:37 AM
waitaminute... Tapmoron? seriously?!? I wanted Russian goyfs for my deck anyway, but they're Tapmorons?

sdematt
01-26-2012, 09:20 AM
I guess if you turn non-English script into English script, sure, I guess. I'd say that's pretty loose, though. :tongue:

-Matt

dernestor86
01-26-2012, 11:00 AM
i guess tarmogoyf is the creature, that translates equally into most languages of all cards i know (dont know about chinese because i cant read it)

but in russian it´s also tarmogoyf and in japanese tarumogoifu, which pronounces tarmogoyf

and that russian goyf is hyperpimp, by the way!

snappingbowls | ಠ_ಠ
01-26-2012, 10:53 PM
hmm I don't even really know if this is the right forum for this sort of question... it is pimp related, anyway, here goes

my LGS completely randomly just has x4 boxes of Russian Guildpact... completely random set and language to buy a set as they are mainly a draft / FNM store (read: standard card centric)... anyway I didn't think much of it's the packs are 5.50 and I didn't ask how much a box is but its probably like 120$ or something...

the question... do you think its worth going in on a box or two over the possibility of relevant foils? I mean I'm looking at the Guildpact spoiler now and thinking if I get a foil Electrolyze, Mortify, Shattering Spree, Angel of Despair (that would be nuts), Debtor's Knell, any Shockland, or Niv-Mizzet... It seems really tempting but if I got a bunch of eternal irrelevant junk than it would be pretty close to wasted money, I mean, what does any serious magic player want less than more bulk junk.

I hope it doesn't sound like my minds made up, I really am looking for advice, what would you guys do? They probably won't have them for long if somebody is thinking the same thing I'm thinking. I lurk forums and I knew Russian was a really hot / pimp language right now so that's what made me think about doing it...

264505
01-26-2012, 11:02 PM
hmm I don't even really know if this is the right forum for this sort of question... it is pimp related, anyway, here goes

my LGS completely randomly just has x4 boxes of Russian Guildpact... completely random set and language to buy a set as they are mainly a draft / FNM store (read: standard card centric)... anyway I didn't think much of it's the packs are 5.50 and I didn't ask how much a box is but its probably like 120$ or something...

the question... do you think its worth going in on a box or two over the possibility of relevant foils? I mean I'm looking at the Guildpact spoiler now and thinking if I get a foil Electrolyze, Mortify, Shattering Spree, Angel of Despair (that would be nuts), Debtor's Knell, any Shockland, or Niv-Mizzet... It seems really tempting but if I got a bunch of eternal irrelevant junk than it would be pretty close to wasted money, I mean, what does any serious magic player want less than more bulk junk.

I hope it doesn't sound like my minds made up, I really am looking for advice, what would you guys do? They probably won't have them for long if somebody is thinking the same thing I'm thinking. I lurk forums and I knew Russian was a really hot / pimp language right now so that's what made me think about doing it...

The is probably going to be a shock land or 2 in there as well.

sdematt
01-26-2012, 11:02 PM
I mean, there's a chance you could crack some decent stuff, and $120 isn't too much more than a regular box at most brick and mortar stores. It might be worth it, unless you'd rather spend $120 on coke, on gas, or milk for your babies.

In other news, my Korean Perishes and Russian Marsh Flats came in. Huzzah!

-Matt

John Cox
01-26-2012, 11:32 PM
leyline of the void too

jamied1981
01-27-2012, 06:57 AM
Just recently bought 1 Russian guild pact box and 22 loose packs and got 1 steam vent and one stomping ground , made me realize I'm never buying boxes again. I would rather buy singles.

dernestor86
01-27-2012, 08:59 AM
i already had 23 russian booster boxes (2more incoming..lorwyn and time spiral, never had boxes of those), and i have pulled some decent stuff:

foils:
doubling season
trygon predator
knight of the reliquary
progenitus
mutavault
elspeth, knight errant
surgical extraction
mental misstep

nonfoils:
1 dissension filler card
lots of shocklands
2 dark confidants
6 knight of the reliquary
5 noble hierarch
2 sword of feast and famine
4 mutavault
5 vendilion clique
6 progenitus (funny that I pulled a mythic so often, i cant explain it to myself, some other mythics from that set i only pulled 1x)

the worst edition was, as jamied1981 said, guildpact, i only pulled crap out of it and where i had the lowest foil ratio.

once i bought loose time spiral boosters (only 10), and i pulled 5 or 6 foils out of them - now that was quite funny =]
at the moment i cant find them, because i´m making a small re-inventory of my russian stuff

also the differences between displays from the same edition can be tremendous, and i am speaking nonfoil-wise.

i wont make a lot of dollars out of it, but i just love opening sealed product!

basically i´m keeping just some foils lol...

sdematt
01-27-2012, 07:43 PM
Some new stuff:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0206.jpg

Duress is so trashy, it's pimp!

Buying and cracking Russian boxes must get a bit expensive.

-Matt

nedleeds
01-28-2012, 12:41 PM
i already had 23 russian booster boxes (2more incoming..lorwyn and time spiral, never had boxes of those), and i have pulled some decent stuff:

foils:
doubling season
trygon predator
knight of the reliquary
progenitus
mutavault
elspeth, knight errant
surgical extraction
mental misstep

nonfoils:
1 dissension filler card
lots of shocklands
2 dark confidants
6 knight of the reliquary
5 noble hierarch
2 sword of feast and famine
4 mutavault
5 vendilion clique
6 progenitus (funny that I pulled a mythic so often, i cant explain it to myself, some other mythics from that set i only pulled 1x)

the worst edition was, as jamied1981 said, guildpact, i only pulled crap out of it and where i had the lowest foil ratio.

once i bought loose time spiral boosters (only 10), and i pulled 5 or 6 foils out of them - now that was quite funny =]
at the moment i cant find them, because i´m making a small re-inventory of my russian stuff

also the differences between displays from the same edition can be tremendous, and i am speaking nonfoil-wise.

i wont make a lot of dollars out of it, but i just love opening sealed product!

basically i´m keeping just some foils lol...

You are truly the keeper of progenitus, that's a bizarre ratio of a mythic. So you can swap me 4 of those progo's?

:cool:

birds of paradise2
01-29-2012, 08:04 AM
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8931/img0002ln.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/img0002ln.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

testing..

birds of paradise2
01-29-2012, 08:12 AM
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8517/imgzpg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/593/imgzpg.jpg/)
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1623/img0002use.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/img0002use.jpg/)
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2357/img0001uhy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/img0001uhy.jpg/)
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2896/img0003pkj.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/img0003pkj.jpg/)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4788/img0004ec.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/img0004ec.jpg/)
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/305/img0005pv.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/img0005pv.jpg/)
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7272/img0006yt.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/img0006yt.jpg/)

My slightly illegal keeper (4 brainstorms)

The Pharmacist
01-29-2012, 08:14 AM
waitaminute... Tapmoron? seriously?!? I wanted Russian goyfs for my deck anyway, but they're Tapmorons?

I think my boy has Russian goyfs for sale. I can bring them to Jupiter if you like

Royal Ass.
01-29-2012, 12:10 PM
Love the old school keeper deck. All old card frames! :tongue:

MoxMonkey
01-29-2012, 01:07 PM
Just recently bought 1 Russian guild pact box and 22 loose packs and got 1 steam vent and one stomping ground , made me realize I'm never buying boxes again. I would rather buy singles.

I'm bad with boxes as well but I'm picking up a german box of dark ascension to see what happens.

DownSyndromeKarl
01-29-2012, 11:41 PM
I'm bad with boxes as well but I'm picking up a german box of dark ascension to see what happens.

It'll probably weigh a little over a kilogram.

sdematt
01-29-2012, 11:41 PM
Beta Bayou #5. I'm a fucking degenerate :frown:

-Matt

MoxMonkey
01-29-2012, 11:56 PM
Beta Bayou #5. I'm a fucking degenerate :frown:

-Matt

no more beta duals for you :P

jamesh
01-30-2012, 01:30 AM
one of these moxes is not like the other, one of these moxes is not the same
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img001-10.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img002-9.jpg
which of these moxes is not like the other, which of these moxes is not the same?

sdematt
01-30-2012, 01:57 AM
Scans aren't high def enough for me to say which might be a fake, but your Ruby has a shuffle crease. It's not like the others.

-Matt

Solaran_X
01-30-2012, 02:20 AM
I'm going to say your "Beta" Mox Jet is a rebacked CE one. The borders on the back don't line up with the borders on the front.

oRen
01-30-2012, 04:03 AM
Sapphire is rebacked CE/IE :really:

majikal
01-30-2012, 04:47 AM
Ruby is the only real one.

jamesh
01-30-2012, 05:19 AM
and the lord said, let there be light
and there was, light illuminating a mox as fake as Kim Kardashian
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/photo4.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/photo2-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/photo1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/photo3.jpg

oRen
01-30-2012, 09:14 AM
I do not get the conclusion because the Jet picture is pretty bad :confused:
I was right?

dernestor86
01-30-2012, 09:26 AM
nope u were wrong. it´s clearly the sapphire, but that the sapphire was absolutely outstanding a fake was pretty clear even before he made the light-test.

oRen
01-30-2012, 09:39 AM
Sapphire is rebacked CE/IE :really:
Und jetzt ... erklär mir warum das falsch ist.

Corners suck and the backside does not match condition wise. My point of view.
Anyway decently done for a Beta fake I guess.

Royal Ass.
01-30-2012, 10:46 AM
I was thinking the Sapphire was fake before I scrolled down because the corners look like someone rounded them with a pair of scissors.

So re-backs do not pass the light test? Aren't they just pealing off the front of the CE card and pasting on the back panel of a normal card? And this lets LESS light through than a real card? Correct?

Does the front of a CE card have the same print dots as a normal card under magnification? Or is the dpi higher or lower etc?

oRen
01-30-2012, 10:51 AM
So re-backs do not pass the light test? Aren't they just pealing off the front of the CE card and pasting on the back panel of a normal card? And this lets LESS light through than a real card? Correct?

Does the front of a CE card have the same print dots as a normal card under magnification? Or is the dpi higher or lower etc?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Afaik exactly the same as A/B besides the obvious (corners + backside) ...

dernestor86
01-30-2012, 11:01 AM
Und jetzt ... erklär mir warum das falsch ist.

Corners suck and the backside does not match condition wise. My point of view.
Anyway decently done for a Beta fake I guess.


sry didnt see ur last post. of course ure right then!

Royal Ass.
01-30-2012, 12:22 PM
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Afaik exactly the same as A/B besides the obvious (corners + backside) ...

Thanks oRen. I own multiple pieces of A/B Power and other A/B cards all of which I believe are real. Whenever I get a new BB power card I always inspect it with a jewelers loup, light test it, and compare it with other A/B cards.

That being said, I'm not sure if I have ever closely inspected a rebacked CE card.

Does a re-backed CE card have the same thickness and weight as a real card?

What other differences are there between rebacked and real cards besides the light issue and possible crappy trim job on the corners?

oRen
01-30-2012, 12:45 PM
I am sure it is in no ones interest if anyone including me goes too much into detail. People gaining advice how to properly reback CE cards would be pretty bad.

Most rebacks slightly differ in weight (mostly higher) and are slightly ticker than real cards. This will be not noticeable in most situations without additional equipment like a scale or a magnifier. Only if the person rebacking the CE card did not know how to do it properly you will notice further stuff like traces of glue or edges pealing off.

Also it will be more likely that someone will attempt to fraud Alpha (apart from Trop + Volc if not leaking common sense ...) cards because you can use a corner rounder for those iirc.

I have seen rebacks passing every imaginable test. It all comes down to a lot of training, know how and so on ...

sdematt
01-30-2012, 01:48 PM
But, if you do have access to an analytical balance, you're totally fine. If you have someone you know working/going to school at a university, the Chem labs will have them for you to test them on.

-Matt

Tha Gunslinga
01-30-2012, 07:56 PM
I have seen rebacks passing every imaginable test. It all comes down to a lot of training, know how and so on ...

Even the bend test? Because I've never seen that. And I bend-test the fuck out of any Beta piece I pick up that's not obviously real.

death
01-30-2012, 10:53 PM
But, if you do have access to an analytical balance, you're totally fine. If you have someone you know working/going to school at a university, the Chem labs will have them for you to test them on.

-Matt

Nope, using an analytical balance isn't acceptable since we are not weighing known compounds with exact composition or specific gravity. We have to consider that each cardboard must weigh differently depending on how much pulp were clumped together to create each sheet. I assume the real Beta cards you would use as standards won't weight exactly the same either, unless they have been pulled from the same booster pack and stored in humidity controlled environment or have been dehydrated using a dessicator. Aside from the glue elements we have to take into account the moisture content of each individual cards.

sdematt
01-30-2012, 10:59 PM
I'm assuming we take an average of Beta cards stored in different environments, then obviously put them in a dessicator to account for moisture absorption, then reweigh again and find our median and mean masses. Obviously the approach isn't perfect, but we have to assume that the glue adds enough weight that it is statistically significant. If we take enough cards, we should be able to get a reliable estimate of the average, and account for cards from different regions, stored in different ways, and with differing densities.

Silly goose, I'm in Science. I just skipped all the boring stuff for the non-science audience :tongue:

-Matt

sdematt
01-30-2012, 11:12 PM
Database error=double post. Frick.

-Matt

jamesh
01-30-2012, 11:16 PM
the sapphire is a pretty good fake, but it's not that good (i knew there was something wrong as soon as i opened it), so i assume that the seller knew it was fake when he sold it to me - although he swears it's real (well he would) has great feedback, we've had good communication, i've bought stuff off him in the past etc. etc.
anyway, he's offered to refund me my money so of course i'm taking him up on that,
if there's any problems with the refund i'll out him here

there's so much fake beta power now, that a big problem is sellers who buy it thinking its real and then pass it on (this can go through a number of hands), they've been screwed by someone previously and it's only now that they are being called out
but that's not my problem

sdematt
01-30-2012, 11:17 PM
Yeah, not your fault at all. Return it like a champ.

-Matt

John Cox
01-30-2012, 11:35 PM
I'm assuming we take an average of Beta cards stored in different environments, then obviously put them in a dessicator to account for moisture absorption, then reweigh again and find our median and mean masses. Obviously the approach isn't perfect, but we have to assume that the glue adds enough weight that it is statistically significant. If we take enough cards, we should be able to get a reliable estimate of the average, and account for cards from different regions, stored in different ways, and with differing densities.

Silly goose, I'm in Science. I just skipped all the boring stuff for the non-science audience :tongue:

-Matt

I'm going to go out on a hunch and say most magic players know someone with an accurate scale (for ebay labels of course :wink: ). Would it be possible for someone to get average weights for some inexpensive beta cards and post them? I'd donate some Beta lands to dehydrate.

sdematt
01-30-2012, 11:42 PM
I have easy access to a good one at my lab. I'll just have to clean the coke dust off of it, and it's ready to go! *Tweak :tongue:

Plus, I have ~300 beta cards, so I could weight all of those as well and enter them into a spreadsheet. If anyone is willing to help out, that'd be cool!

-Matt

Sintheros
01-30-2012, 11:47 PM
Nothing too fancy, just some minty goodness.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8117/trop.jpg

Sloshthedark
01-31-2012, 05:06 AM
so now you have to have UV, microscope and scales to carry around when trading cards :laugh:

maybe its time to contribute once...

nothing too fancy (II.) ...but still you do not see that every day

http://imb.lide.cz/lide_photo_big/201201/3109/22/4f27bb8222d9ce5ab6000200.jpg?type=fresh



+question - with Dark Rituals would you go Beta or Korean? (not considering rest of the deck, just cards) Alpha>>>rest but those are impossible to get in nice condition

dernestor86
01-31-2012, 05:49 AM
korean 5th, since there´s no wb version of korean 4th

bfeingersh
01-31-2012, 08:53 AM
+question - with Dark Rituals would you go Beta or Korean? (not considering rest of the deck, just cards) Alpha>>>rest but those are impossible to get in nice condition

I would do Korean, but I'm a sucker for foreign over beta. Most people would probably say Beta or Judge foil.

PS: I'm in the market for 3x Chinese Animate Dead, if anyone knows where I can find some.

death
01-31-2012, 09:55 AM
Bits and pieces of my Reanimator with Chinese Animate Deads (they're not for sale though)..
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6978/cadzi.jpg

coraz86
01-31-2012, 04:30 PM
+question - with Dark Rituals would you go Beta or Korean? (not considering rest of the deck, just cards) Alpha>>>rest but those are impossible to get in nice condition

I'd go with foil Masques if you enjoy foil (in whichever language you approve of most), or Korean Urza's Saga if you don't prefer foil. I can't stand the judge promo ones.

I can totally respect the Beta thing though (I loved my Beta, but I couldn't afford more and traded it). Maybe hit up some of the serious BB ballers on here (dahcmai and sdematt would be my first guesses) and see if they can route you to Alphas--if that's where your heart is, go for it.

I play Eva Green and Pox almost exclusively, so Rits are a big deal to me. To wit;

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/coraz86/010.jpg

Not foil, but as a grad student, I have to conform my pimp hand to my wallet, and for a buck at PT-San Diego 2010 I could not pass them up.

DerFern
02-01-2012, 12:59 AM
http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/coraz86/010.jpg

sadface
I played those babies for about two years now, but I only had three of them signed. So I ordered a playset of japanese 4th bb just two days ago...

Too bad, since I really love Rebecca Guay as an artist :rolleyes:

If anybody is interested in a playset of japanese exc. MM Rituals with three of them signed give me a message ;)

Olesch
02-01-2012, 03:15 AM
In the future when doing the light test, turn the card arround so the back is facing you and also you should do it in a darker room.

I am always doing the light test on all older cards I acquire along with carefully inspection with a loupe. Don't forget to examine the edges and corners as well with the loupe.

I don't what so ever do the bend test. I strongly object to this test since it could destroy real beta cards as well.

The above tests are more than enough to discover fake cards if you are into it and know what you are doing. During my years of collecting, I have stumbled upon very good fakes, especially one Beta Black Lotus. It was almost perfect but I discovered it. In this case it was a store and I got a full refund. But be aware all. There are more fakes out there than you might expect!

Edit: One thing that is also important to understand is that older cards (Beta etc) could differ in brightness, allignment etc even though it is a real card. The printing technique back then was not as great as it is today!




and the lord said, let there be light
and there was, light illuminating a mox as fake as Kim Kardashian
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/photo4.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/photo2-1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/photo1.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/photo3.jpg

piZZero
02-01-2012, 06:15 PM
Long time no see!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b32/piZZero/Screenshot2012-02-02at120406AM.jpg

My new set!

Cheers!

piZZero - Jordi Amat

sdematt
02-01-2012, 08:23 PM
Holy fuck, Tron.

A giant package of Russian pimp came in the mail for me today. Russian Jaces, Green Sun's Zeniths, Thopter tokens, etc.

I'll post it when I'm not studying for a midterm :P

-Matt

oRen
02-01-2012, 08:24 PM
Obviously very nice but how come you sold those very old marvel ones (those must have been 1st or 2nd altering season?) and get those no that much time afterward? You just like Tron a lot? I would appreciate some more background information.



Even the bend test? Because I've never seen that. And I bend-test the fuck out of any Beta piece I pick up that's not obviously real.
You can not really ask someone who just told you that some of his higher end cards are rebacked to crossbend them 15 times to proof any point.
They were flexible to the point I played around with them, had decent looking edges + Alpha corners and passed the light test quite well.
He told me they were about +0,05g compared to a regular Beta card.
But yeah ... you are right for sure ... no reback will survive crossbending it 10+ times ...

Dark Ritual
02-01-2012, 11:12 PM
Holy fuck those force's are absolutely incredible Pizzero. Like when I saw them my jaw literally dropped to the floor in .2 seconds.

I would go with beta/alpha over korean dark rit's personally. There's nothing quite like alpha and beta, I have korean dark rit's from saga and tempest and I infinitely prefer alpha/beta's to those. I do like my foil masques playset though (1 italian, 3 english). I second the notion that judge dark ritual's are hideous, I can't stand the art on it and everything about the card in judge form is just wrong.

aahz
02-01-2012, 11:57 PM
I would go with beta/alpha over korean dark rit's personally. There's nothing quite like alpha and beta, I have korean dark rit's from saga and tempest and I infinitely prefer alpha/beta's to those. I do like my foil masques playset though (1 italian, 3 english). I second the notion that judge dark ritual's are hideous, I can't stand the art on it and everything about the card in judge form is just wrong.
Why settle for only one?
http://www.mns-images.org/aahz/rituals.JPG
I do still have a soft spot for Masques rituals though.

sumbahdy
02-02-2012, 02:31 AM
Hi all. Here's my share. I took this picture for my Child of Alara EDH deckand at the same time, am using the duals for my Legacy decks. Not much on foils now just looking at Japanese cards more or less. Will try to post more soon. Enjoy.:wink:

http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz306/sumbahdy/EDHManaBase.jpg

scrubbysniff
02-02-2012, 05:07 PM
So I only get to drool over this thread, never post in it...until I got something in the mail today I think might be worthy:

http://i.imgur.com/iYrAJ.jpg

Not a scan, kinda bad pic but I think you can tell what it is heh.

Grymer
02-02-2012, 05:31 PM
i got this to the DKA Pre-release is it worth anything ?

Crimped:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2629/img0143r.jpg

CookedChestnuts
02-02-2012, 08:09 PM
i got this to the DKA Pre-release is it worth anything ?

Crimped:
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2629/img0143r.jpg

I would imagine not a whole lot, like less than $8.

On a price related note, I've had this for quite some time now, can someone give me an estimated value?

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8576/img0114nj.jpg

Koby
02-02-2012, 08:12 PM
The Pimp Thread Road Show

Korean artist-altered Intuition

Points:
+Highly playable
+Pimp language
-sharpie altered
-unsleeved

I'd rate this card at 85% the value of a MINT Korean Intuition (est. value $70)

CookedChestnuts
02-02-2012, 08:18 PM
The Pimp Thread Road Show

Korean artist-altered Intuition

Points:
+Highly playable
+Pimp language
-sharpie altered
-unsleeved

I'd rate this card at 85% the value of a MINT Korean Intuition (est. value $70)

I was resleeving when I took the picture. Thanks though!

sdematt
02-02-2012, 09:55 PM
Thopters gunna thopt.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0207.jpg

Last card I need for the deck: Korean Ensnaring Bridge #2. Anyone got a hookup?

-Matt

OurSerratedDust
02-02-2012, 10:19 PM
Hi all. Here's my share. I took this picture for my Child of Alara EDH deckand at the same time, am using the duals for my Legacy decks. Not much on foils now just looking at Japanese cards more or less. Will try to post more soon. Enjoy.:wink:

http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz306/sumbahdy/EDHManaBase.jpg

A+. These alters are amazing.

jamesh
02-03-2012, 12:09 AM
The Pimp Thread Road Show

Korean artist-altered Intuition

Points:
+Highly playable
+Pimp language
-sharpie altered
-unsleeved

I'd rate this card at 85% the value of a MINT Korean Intuition (est. value $70)
On ebay this would almost certainly auction higher than a non-altered/non-signed version.

socialite
02-03-2012, 01:03 AM
On ebay this would almost certainly auction higher than a non-altered/non-signed version.

People do like their shitty alters.

Maxe
02-03-2012, 04:53 AM
Thopters gunna thopt.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0207.jpg

Last card I need for the deck: Korean Ensnaring Bridge #2. Anyone got a hookup?

-Matt

Matt u know u got the totaly wrong Thopter Tokens for the FoundryMeek combo?!

But keep on russians, they look great!

kiblast
02-03-2012, 06:36 AM
True. You need the blue ones! (when I had my italian mis-translated Thopter Foundries, I used to chumpblock Piledrivers like a champ. Until someone told me: Hey! The oracle text says blue thopter token! Sadly they missed the -blue- part in translation...)

oRen
02-03-2012, 06:49 AM
People do like their shitty alters.
In crystal clear memory of you presenting me as the most retarded person on this planet on Librarities please explain me how you think that insulting other peoples preferences can possibly lead to any kind of productive discussion.

I like that Intuition a lot.

---

Not sure if stockpiling on those was my particularly best idea.

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/WGttspactc.jpg (http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/Kfv3xISr6d.JPG)

sdematt
02-03-2012, 09:41 AM
My contact didn't have the other ones in Russian :(

But, if anyone's got a hookup, let me know :)

-Matt

snappingbowls | ಠ_ಠ
02-03-2012, 12:20 PM
How much are foil Russian Jaces going for?

Did you choose to not go foil because of availability, cost or preference?

Really cool cards though man!

sdematt
02-03-2012, 12:23 PM
I hate Foils, so I can't bring myself to foil out a deck. For me, it just seems like a gimmick. No hate on people who post foils, since I understand they're nice for you and hard to find. I appreciate them (like I would a painter who's style I still don't like), but don't buy them.

Russian Foil Jaces are probably about 400-600. They're pretty insane. I got these nonfoil for under $100, but still way more than regular Jaces. If I really wanted to, I could go Russian Foil Jaces, but I wouldn't have the deck completed in a reasonable amount of time as well, since I'd have to go find 3-4 Rus Foil Jaces that some French guy would want to part with :tongue:

-Matt

i_set_fire
02-03-2012, 02:09 PM
Russian foil Jaces are about 700 or more.

socialite
02-03-2012, 02:18 PM
In crystal clear memory of you presenting me as the most retarded person on this planet on Librarities please explain me how you think that insulting other peoples preferences can possibly lead to any kind of productive discussion.

You are and the constant run ins you have with people here make that pretty evident.

It's a fact that people over pay on really bad alters. Now if you take a look in the actual alter thread I'd say there's around 3-5 people who produce alters on a regular basis where the end product actually meets the price. I'd argue that 90% of the alters out there are pretty terrible.

You are correct in that perhaps I should have expressed myself in a better way instead of being so negative. The point of my snide remark was in that I agree with Ruckus when he states that the particular Intuition posted is worth less than a non altered one; this would be entirely different if the alter was actually good - which it is not.

Also I'm pretty positive you hold the record for being a complete ass clown towards cards people post. I feel strongly that it's acceptable for me to post my biased opinion once and a while.

Matt, nice stuff!

oRen
02-03-2012, 03:21 PM
You really try to justify you behaving like shit with me behaving like shit? Considering your reactions when I suggested to somewhat lower your standards on your mint Korean fetish you are most definitely the most hypocritical person I have ever dealt with through the internet.

Considering the alternation topic ... The reason people overpay for those is the same reason you overpay for mint Korean or so many people overpay for strange looking cards they can not even read - an inner aspire for individuality. You really hate on people who are trying to accomplish this in another way than you?


Also I'm pretty positive you hold the record for being a complete ass clown towards cards people post.
Have fun trying to proof this.

Koby
02-03-2012, 03:31 PM
The reason people overpay for those is the same reason you overpay for mint Korean or so many people overpay for strange looking cards they can not even read - TO BE PIMPIN

Fixed that for you. Pimpin' ain't easy.

socialite
02-03-2012, 03:46 PM
You really try to justify you behaving like shit with me behaving like shit? Considering your reactions when I suggested to somewhat lower your standards on your mint Korean fetish you are most definitely the most hypocritical person I have ever dealt with through the internet.

Considering the alternation topic ... The reason people overpay for those is the same reason you overpay for mint Korean or so many people overpay for strange looking cards they can not even read - an inner aspire for individuality. You really hate on people who are trying to accomplish this in another way than you?


Have fun trying to proof this.

:rolleyes:

ImpinAintEasy
02-03-2012, 05:36 PM
Fixed that for you. Pimpin' ain't easy.


It comes easier for some of us!

GGoober
02-03-2012, 07:00 PM
I would imagine not a whole lot, like less than $8.

On a price related note, I've had this for quite some time now, can someone give me an estimated value?

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8576/img0114nj.jpg

Who the fuck destroyed that Korean Intuition?!

I would put Korean INtuitions at $60 (low-end) for less than NM so yours would fetch max $50 IMO. But that's me.

oRen
02-03-2012, 08:34 PM
Who the fuck destroyed that Korean Intuition?!
April Lee - you might notice the signature. I am sick of all this hatred. Peace out.

CorpT
02-03-2012, 09:35 PM
a) Those do not look good compared to others out there. Those look sloppy while there are really well done ones out there.
b) From my point of view - all of them suck. There is no original text to write so they could not be less authentical.


April Lee - you might notice the signature. I am sick of all this hatred. Peace out.

Can we just rename this thread: oRen will decide if your cards are cool or not and then the discussion is over.

Apparently that's what he'd like. He can criticize cards, but runs away if someone else says something bad about a card he likes. That makes sense.

oRen
02-03-2012, 10:22 PM
I do not get the point of the quotations. On the one side my criticism on a really poorly made alternation (Japanese Forces IIRC) and generally "japanizing" cards which were never printed in Japanese is properly expressed while on the other there is my response to plain undifferentiated hatred and pure stupidity. In direct comparison I was even back then in my worst times able to properly explain myself and not just nitpick, rage or spread hatred like everybody seems to think. Anyway it seems a bit vague to me to use that two quotations as the foundation for those nice conclusions but I am cool with with getting the thread renamed like this.

Sadly I was never able to just run away and leave things behind. Be sure I would if ... no - I should rather stop here.

majikal
02-03-2012, 11:31 PM
I have serious doubts as to the authenticity of that April Lee alter. It just looks really sloppy. Either she is actually a very shitty artist with no spatial reasoning (she seriously crammed her signature onto the very edge and had to readjust the size of her handwriting, and the person on Intuition now looks like a midget) or someone decided to scribble on a card and forge an autograph.

Koby
02-03-2012, 11:40 PM
I didn't want to comment on the quality of the alter, because it's really touchy subject for most people...

This particular Intuition just doesn't look well done. Two-tone with red Sharpie that are literal scribbles for accent is just poorly done, and as majikal mentioned, the proportion is off on Orim. The use of thin-black Sharpie also doesn't look appealing as far as alters go. It doesn't help that the card is in the pimpest language, and then poorly crapped upon by April Lee, who has done a grand total of 3 magic cards.

I've seen some of her Lotus Petal doodles and those just make me cringe.

I'd much prefer an acryllic 3rd party alter to a chicken scratch by the artist. (And have the same reservations on R.Alexander doodles too)

Dark Ritual
02-04-2012, 12:11 AM
That korean intuition is anti pimpin'. I would rather have an english copy of intuition than be caught with that intuition in my binder, deck, or garbage can. The alter is hideous, as in it took April Lee probably 2 minutes to perform that alteration. If April Lee had just signed the card and not altered it I would want it though because I imagine April Lee isn't the easiest artist to find art for since she did 3 pieces of art for Magic.

Foil russian jace's I'd imagine are going for infinite as in if you find them, the person who has them will want approximately 4 figures for them i.e. 1,000 or more per copy. I've never seen a russian foil jace personally. Then again I don't travel that much and what's here locally is slim as far as super chase foils go/foil japanese and russian cards except random commons like azorius signet.

sumbahdy
02-04-2012, 01:19 AM
@sdematt

Love the Russian Jace. Way better than the Japanese ones since they are becoming more common. Same sentiment on the foils. I used to collect foils (english only since Japs are way too expensive) but now hunt for Japanese regular instead of English. Just for the sake of saying am different. Could you pm me on where to get the Russians?:tongue:

The Korean Intuition altered using a regular ballpen is not appealing. I'd say it looks even ugly. But usually artists of the card use it since it is more convenient and more authentic so to speak. The signature will definitely jack the price but I don't know how much should they fetch.

sdematt
02-04-2012, 03:10 AM
Sure, just send me a PM and we'll work something out.

-Matt

OurSerratedDust
02-04-2012, 10:56 AM
Just wanted to post some of my stuff. Most recent acquisition was the two miscut basics, which shipped all the way from Italy (thanks to ende73.) Check it out!

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2158/51476417.png
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7717/71870762.png
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8567/81442420.png

socialite
02-04-2012, 01:21 PM
Just wanted to post some of my stuff. Most recent acquisition was the two miscut basics, which shipped all the way from Italy (thanks to ende73.) Check it out!

Neat stuff!

snappingbowls | ಠ_ಠ
02-04-2012, 03:11 PM
set foil Chinese Wipe Away and Swarm are really cool!

Everyone loves pimp staples, but I really look more obscure (not that Wipe Away or Swarm are especially obscure; but they're not fetches or spell snares) cards that are pimped out in foil and Alt. language

Mr.C
02-05-2012, 10:31 PM
Those basics look familiar. How much were they? PM me if you don't want to post, just curious.

coraz86
02-06-2012, 05:21 PM
Some hot shit I picked up off Marvin (thanks again, dude, for reals), plus a VF Top I got pretty decently on eBay;

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/coraz86/scan0001-2.jpg

sdematt
02-06-2012, 05:24 PM
Holy tits, German Tops. Approve.

-Matt

Marvin
02-06-2012, 05:59 PM
No Problem man :)
@matt:

If you want some Tops pm me :)
I can get you almost any german Card ;)
Since I am from Austria

Regards
Some hot shit I picked up off Marvin (thanks again, dude, for reals), plus a VF Top I got pretty decently on eBay;

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/coraz86/scan0001-2.jpg

blackberrybold
02-06-2012, 06:12 PM
Got some piece of magic, what some of you may be looking for. :wink:
I am actually thinking about selling em, if there is anybody interested i can give you further informations.
http://s7.directupload.net/images/120207/temp/ut54x347.jpg (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2793/ut54x347_jpg.htm)

I am looking for Russian Jaces and Foil Japanese Kiki Jiki and Solemn Simulacrum. If there are any to sale, PM me pls :)

OurSerratedDust
02-06-2012, 06:23 PM
Nice Tundras! I always love FBB duals.

MoxMonkey
02-06-2012, 09:12 PM
Heres a page from my play stock binder (everything is german except the timetwister which is alpha):
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/402234_3195099873259_1138816534_33231105_1080938195_n.jpg

PeAcH
02-07-2012, 02:42 AM
We have published @ Maná Infinito some pictures of a BUG Threshold PIMP deck played this last weekend:

http://manainfinito.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/CONTENT/620_barajas_pimp_bug_threshold.jpg

http://manainfinito.com/articulos/legacy/barajas-pimp-bug-threshold



Enjoy!

Harduvel
02-07-2012, 02:24 PM
Choices, choices...

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5782/cliques001.jpg

Mr Miagi
02-07-2012, 03:38 PM
Choices, choices...

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5782/cliques001.jpg

.. not really.

majikal
02-07-2012, 03:48 PM
.. not really.
Disagree. Promo Cliques are one of the few cards where the artwork is better than the original.

preddi
02-07-2012, 04:06 PM
They are not that expensive, but i really like these lands. Still looking for some forests and swamps. Does anyone know some good distribution channels for this stuff?

http://s1.directupload.net/images/120207/temp/n9ku6q37.jpg (http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/2793/n9ku6q37_jpg.htm)

-preddi

jamied1981
02-07-2012, 04:29 PM
New stuff for edh and decks
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/jamied_07/79b52bef.jpg

socialite
02-07-2012, 07:13 PM
Disagree. Promo Cliques are one of the few cards where the artwork is better than the original.

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/what_are_you_doing.jpg

Hells no!

TheElvishPiper
02-07-2012, 08:49 PM
GG Oath:

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/mail-7.jpg

(Some of the foils didnt show up to well. The only card I have left to foil is the Jace.)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/mail-5.jpg

(The 4th foil Scalding Tarn is on its way)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/mail-6.jpg

Koby
02-07-2012, 09:06 PM
So close... yet so far...

https://p.twimg.com/AlGKJcqCEAEFBs-.jpg:large

Solaran_X
02-07-2012, 09:59 PM
GG Oath:

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/mail-7.jpg

(Some of the foils didnt show up to well. The only card I have left to foil is the Jace.)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/mail-5.jpg

(The 4th foil Scalding Tarn is on its way)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/mail-6.jpg
Not bad looking. I finally got my hands on my own foil Dragon Breath - that card was hard to find!

I assume you don't like the Judge foil versions of the Demonic Tutor, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring (or FTV version), and Flusterstorms?

socialite
02-07-2012, 11:09 PM
So close... yet so far...

I just hit my third as well.

jamesh
02-08-2012, 12:15 AM
http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/what_are_you_doing.jpg

Hells no!

whichever art people prefer is really irrelevant - the original (which can be had in foil and non-English languages) is more pimp

Loathing
02-08-2012, 01:09 AM
So close... yet so far...

https://p.twimg.com/AlGKJcqCEAEFBs-.jpg:large

Very nice, there's a few Korean playsets I'm slowly working on too.

DownSyndromeKarl
02-08-2012, 01:12 AM
So close... yet so far...

https://p.twimg.com/AlGKJcqCEAEFBs-.jpg:large

I don't even play Brainstorms, but I want these! Super pimp.

TheElvishPiper
02-08-2012, 01:26 AM
Not bad looking. I finally got my hands on my own foil Dragon Breath - that card was hard to find!

I assume you don't like the Judge foil versions of the Demonic Tutor, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring (or FTV version), and Flusterstorms?

Nice! One of my friends who is a really casual player had it sitting in the back of his binder and he just gave it to me.

I really dislike the newer border Judge foils a lot because of the big DCI logo. I made an exception for the Yawgmoth's Will because I love foils, and how amazing it looks in foil. I personally think that and Alpha Sol ring was the most pimp it could get so thats why I have one over the other versions. I have yet to obtain Judge foil Flusterstorms because I was hoping that they would drop in price a little bit over the next few months.

I prefer to get cards in Alpha/Beta-->English pack-foil-->Old border Judge foil-->Original art black border English. For some reason I have started to dislike foreign cards. I love to see pimped out Korean and Foil Japanese, but its just not for me.

The only exception that I have made as far as Judge foil over pack foil was with my playset of Dark Confidants because they were all from good friends of mine that are Judges. I still want a regular foil set though.

MoxMonkey
02-08-2012, 01:32 AM
I'll take german brainstorms:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/399857_3204260782276_1138816534_33234968_511877198_n.jpg

PeAcH
02-08-2012, 02:39 AM
We have antother set of PIMP pictures @ Maná Infinito.

Now it´s Canadian Threshold time under the spotlight:

http://manainfinito.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/CONTENT/620_barajas_pimp_canadian_threshold.jpg

http://manainfinito.com/articulos/legacy/barajas-pimp-canadian-threshold

Enjoy!

kiblast
02-08-2012, 07:26 AM
I love Dci foil Cliques as well (I own a couple of them). The art is far superior. I understand they are not the pack foil, they don't come in Jap or Chi or German, they cost roughly 30% less than normal foil english Clique, but I just like the art :D

jamied1981
02-08-2012, 01:15 PM
+1

I think the clique is the only judge promo that I'd put in a deck, for some reason it make me cringe when I see the judge foil mana crypts, I think the card needed the old card frame and pic, it is a little more iconic.

TheElvishPiper
02-08-2012, 03:29 PM
+1

I think the clique is the only judge promo that I'd put in a deck, for some reason it make me cringe when I see the judge foil mana crypts, I think the card needed the old card frame and pic, it is a little more iconic.

I agree with that. I probably would have considered picking one up if they left the old art.

Koby
02-08-2012, 03:58 PM
I'm also a fan of the newer art for the promo Cliques. It's much better suited for the blue frame than the previous art. I'd would love to see a Bitterblossom art on Clique, and vice versa. :D

Richard Cheese
02-08-2012, 04:35 PM
+1

I think the clique is the only judge promo that I'd put in a deck, for some reason it make me cringe when I see the judge foil mana crypts, I think the card needed the old card frame and pic, it is a little more iconic.

I love the Judge promo SoFI, and to a slightly lesser extent, Bob. Old frames FTW!

RJM
02-08-2012, 08:54 PM
I love the Judge promo SoFI, and to a slightly lesser extent, Bob. Old frames FTW!

Oh man, tell me about it. I get all sorts of unreasonable greedy when I see those cards for trade or sale. Must. have. them.

csy
02-09-2012, 01:06 PM
here is some of the newest additions to my reanimator deck. the french sea I think comes with a load of bad karma.. you guys wouldn't believe what I paid for it.... and its in great condition. the the italian FoW was a steal too. Not literally of course.

http://cl.ly/E4kw/IMG_1348.jpg

Royal Ass.
02-09-2012, 01:27 PM
That's not Italian. Looks Spanish.

csy
02-09-2012, 01:33 PM
actually you are right, I put the wrong one down on the table.

jandax
02-09-2012, 06:36 PM
The Force looks pretty crisp, actually. I don't recall the last FBB USea I've seen in this thread that's in such a condition. Nice finds.

TheElvishPiper
02-09-2012, 07:04 PM
One of my favorite decks to play :cool:

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/mail-8.jpg

majikal
02-09-2012, 07:15 PM
I want to see some Ghetto-pimp Burn decks!

All Revised lands and Bolts, Mirage Incinerates, all English.

Decorated to hell and back with Sharpies.

GO!

death
02-09-2012, 09:52 PM
Me first,
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8661/frontxzp.jpg

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/1724/backttl.jpg
A 'Stormy' Island perfectly suited for a Storm deck.

dernestor86
02-10-2012, 09:25 AM
one or two pages ago i saw a german foil snowland, i have a couple of these too ;-)

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/betaplateau00k9pauxtlj2.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/betaplateau00uwoi0j85y9.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

all german foil =)

sdematt
02-10-2012, 10:32 AM
Holy tits, German Coldsnap.

How hard are German Counterbalances to find? I may need to pimp out Thopters a bit more :smile:

-Matt

jjjoness'
02-10-2012, 11:05 AM
Holy tits, German Coldsnap.

How hard are German Counterbalances to find? I may need to pimp out Thopters a bit more :smile:

-Matt

German nonfoil 4-5€ here in Germany, foil for around 20-25€. Not that hard to come by :D

bruizar
02-10-2012, 11:15 AM
one or two pages ago i saw a german foil snowland, i have a couple of these too ;-)

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/betaplateau00k9pauxtlj2.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)
http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/betaplateau00uwoi0j85y9.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

all german foil =)

Time for some scrying sheets!

Marvin
02-11-2012, 07:55 AM
Hey,

Picked up some cool Cards recently:
(Every Card is for sale!)

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd450/Marvuen/P1000734.jpg
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd450/Marvuen/P1000731.jpg
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd450/Marvuen/P1000730.jpg

Some closer looks:

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd450/Marvuen/Jacetmsgerman.jpg
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd450/Marvuen/gerfoilstifle.jpg
and
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd450/Marvuen/gerfoilbribery.jpg


Some cool Cards and some German FOILS!!

Every Card is for Sale, if anybody is interested just shoot me a message or an email to: mitterlehner.marvin@gmail.com

Hope you like it!

from Cairo
02-11-2012, 12:05 PM
Me first,
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8661/frontxzp.jpg
A 'Stormy' Island perfectly suited for a Storm deck.

Usually don't particularly like anime lands, but that one is really nicely done.

thulnanth
02-12-2012, 08:38 AM
Usually don't particularly like anime lands, but that one is really nicely done.

My thought as well - thanks for sharing :)

Take it easy,
Jared

death
02-12-2012, 02:00 PM
btw, in case anyone's wondering whose handwriting's on it, it is Terese's as in "T. Nielsen"


I should probably have Rob A. sign there too, if only I knew where I could find him next lol

I'll leave the Sea as minty as it is, thank you

r3dd09
02-12-2012, 08:01 PM
Sometime this week I'll post some of the goodies i've gotten the past month.

Hopefully my overseas mail will get resolved soon and receive that stuff as well. Anyone else been having issues with overseas stuff lately? I've been waiting almost a month on 2 packages :/

dernestor86
02-12-2012, 08:13 PM
i think u were a guy looking for german stuff, so i guess u bought from europe. maybe its because of the very cold weather here. but a month is still unusual. the most likely explanation is that the stuff hasnt been sent or that it is waiting for you at your local post office and they forgot to inform you which happens frequently.

tomorrow i´ll also post pictures of a few russian foil playsets and singles, and i will also list a few of them on ebay (but only a few!). need to let some go - but of course not my playsets ;-)

kingsey
02-12-2012, 10:57 PM
I know Pimp is all about what you think is Pimp but... Seems everyone has jap cards, I was thinking going Russian non foil, or English foil . What would u guys pick and why ? Should I expect to pay a big premium for Russian non foil vs English?

TheElvishPiper
02-12-2012, 11:17 PM
I know Pimp is all about what you think is Pimp but... Seems everyone has jap cards, I was thinking going Russian non foil, or English foil . What would u guys pick and why ? Should I expect to pay a big premium for Russian non foil vs English?

I would go for foil English! :smile:

from Cairo
02-12-2012, 11:28 PM
I know Pimp is all about what you think is Pimp but... Seems everyone has jap cards, I was thinking going Russian non foil, or English foil . What would u guys pick and why ? Should I expect to pay a big premium for Russian non foil vs English?

I think Foil English is probably easier to make a coherent theme to a deck. Russian wasn't printed for a lot of the older staples.

What deck are you planning to pimp?

Gunseng
02-13-2012, 04:56 AM
I am pleasantly surprised to see so many people here interested in german cards. Are those cards pimp now? Here in Germany, german cards are not very popular. Most people prefer english ones, maily because they sound "cooler", but also the german translation has become much worse over the years. Seeing "planeswalker" on a german Jace makes we want to puke. What do you collectors like about german cards? What motivated you to start collecting them in the first place?

dernestor86
02-13-2012, 07:26 AM
here are mainly new newest russian foil acquisitions + some nice islands!
i started with russian foils in the end of october 2011 and although the collection is very small, i like it a lot!

the picture misses a few money cards, but they were old pulls from boosters and are not play-relevant for me (mutavault, progenitus, elspeth), i also have other pix with foils i already traded, but this picture is from today! (but I´m going to send the 5th leyline, so it wont be included ever again^^, i waited almost a month for it and already traded it)

if something can not be recognized as a foil immediately, i´m sorry, but the light did not allow me better pictures - anything except the islands is foil!

i have to leave now, i will post close ups later

http://img4.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/20120213122hnr8voqmlp.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Occam
02-13-2012, 08:51 AM
Just a sample of my ongoing project to complete the set. First scanned batch soon.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/jud1.jpg

Gunseng
02-13-2012, 09:56 AM
What are these? None of these cards were in Judgment, as far as I remember. Where did you get them?

Aggro_zombies
02-13-2012, 10:28 AM
What are these? None of these cards were in Judgment, as far as I remember. Where did you get them?
IIRC they were tests for potential new card frames for the 8th Edition frame switch. R&D had batches printed up so that people could see and play with them.

These frames ultimately ended up not making the cut.

kingsey
02-13-2012, 11:08 AM
I think Foil English is probably easier to make a coherent theme to a deck. Russian wasn't printed for a lot of the older staples.

What deck are you planning to pimp?

It's a rub tempo deck. Delvers, cliques, tombstalkers, spell snares ,bolts, scalding tarn,

I already have the fbb duals.

from Cairo
02-13-2012, 01:02 PM
It's a rub tempo deck. Delvers, cliques, tombstalkers, spell snares ,bolts, scalding tarn,

I already have the fbb duals.

Nice, idk then. I personally am not big on foils, I tend to just go with first available printing, English, non-foil. Haven't pulled the trigger on Beta duals, but have most of the other staples (Bolt, StP, Counterspell, etc).

Foiled out English would probably look nice. Really just FOW and the Duals would be unfoilable.

If you went non-foil Russian I guess you'd have to pick a 2nd language for Force and Brainstorm, maybe match them to your fbb duals (German, French, Italian)? A fully German/Russian deck would probably be considered pretty pimp.

Purgatory
02-13-2012, 04:59 PM
Just a sample of my ongoing project to complete the set. First scanned batch soon.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/jud1.jpg

These are very impressive, a great find indeed, but I must say that I'm glad that they picked the frame we have now over this one.

Royal Ass.
02-13-2012, 06:01 PM
One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong. So yeah I'm happy to have picked up three signed Brainstorms this weekend. Now I'm going to drive myself crazy getting a forth one that was signed in the same manner as the other three. If anyone can help me finish out this playset PM me. Thanks:smile:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/fotografiamia/P1020268.jpg

atropos
02-14-2012, 02:47 AM
These are very impressive, a great find indeed, but I must say that I'm glad that they picked the frame we have now over this one.

QFT. Also, why is Shadowmage Infiltrator's casting cost on the right while the other cards are on the left?

Whippoorwill
02-14-2012, 12:01 PM
QFT. Also, why is Shadowmage Infiltrator's casting cost on the right while the other cards are on the left?

Testing what it would look like on that side.

PaRa
02-14-2012, 12:46 PM
the mailman was kind to me today...

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/IMG-4.jpg

sdematt
02-14-2012, 12:54 PM
The real question: do you want to be nice to me? :cool::tongue:

-Matt

Occam
02-14-2012, 12:55 PM
The current frames are definitely better. Most of these exist with two versions, with the mana cost on the left, and mana cost on the right. There're some Legacy staples that exist as test prints in this strain, although these aren't legal for play. Most people have seen some of the green/red stuff that leaked onto ebay, but there's quite a bit more.

Royal Ass.
02-14-2012, 01:52 PM
Check out my collection of sweet T2 Japanese Foils!!!.... well ok, actually it's just a bunch of janky white bordered English cards. Found another UNL dual in my binder last night that didn't make the picture.


http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/fotografiamia/P1020272.jpg

Royal Ass.
02-14-2012, 02:00 PM
Some notable T1 cards in my collection. Picked up that Alpha Ruby a few weeks ago and that Beta Lotus a few months ago. Going to hold onto the singed UNL one for sentimental reasons. Not sure if I'll get rid of the UNL Ruby either since it was my first piece of power. I paid $100 cash for it over 10 years ago.

The Fastbond, Wheel, Mana Vault, Pearl, and Ruby are Alpha. That Mana Vault is pack fresh and I wonder if I should even play it.

When Mark Tedin was in town for the Besieged Pre-Release I had some cards signed but opted not to get the Drains and some other expensive stuff signed. Note that in order to get him to sign at the bottom of the card you have to ask specifically. Otherwise he signs in the middle of the card which looks horrible in my opinion. I hate when artists sign in the middle. Garfield does that too. I have a bunch of Tedin cards signed on the bottom which sort of makes them unique in that respect.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/fotografiamia/P1020269.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n294/fotografiamia/P1020270.jpg

sdematt
02-14-2012, 04:31 PM
/Respect.

-Matt

PaRa
02-15-2012, 03:05 AM
I'm always nice to you Matt :wink:

Great cards Royal Ass!

sdematt
02-15-2012, 10:07 PM
4 NM Korean Chill are incoming for me :)

Fuck you in the neck, Burn.

-Matt

Koby
02-16-2012, 01:26 AM
Today, I received a windfall. What once was thrice is twice as nice. ;-)

Pics up this weekend once I get to my desktop.

fvzappa
02-16-2012, 03:50 AM
Just a sample of my ongoing project to complete the set. First scanned batch soon.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/jud1.jpg

Occam, do yours have a white back or not? Mine do, I was hoping to find some that don't.

And if you are not on magiclibrarities, we should get acquainted for sure...

GGoober
02-16-2012, 10:48 AM
4 NM Korean Chill are incoming for me :)

Fuck you in the neck, Burn.

-Matt

I think Korean CoP:R fucks burn in the butt but if you prefer the neck Chill isn't that bad either :P

Ozymandias
02-16-2012, 01:16 PM
Yeah, but Korean Chill is 4 bucks and Korean COP:R is 50 cents. So Chill must be better.

nedleeds
02-16-2012, 01:38 PM
Anyone have any Korean Urza's Saga Absolute Law? That's my anti burn pet card ... but I generally play lots of dudes.

sdematt
02-16-2012, 02:04 PM
Exactly. Plus, I don't have to pump mana into it, especially in Thopters (where I want mana to drop bombs).

It is a bit awkward in matchups where you also want to bring in Blasts, but since they're Alpha, they avoid Korean Chill, if I recall the pimp-stack correctly. Same as Beta duals dodge Anthologies/4th Ed. Strip Mines in Vintage.

-Matt

sdematt
02-16-2012, 05:38 PM
Those with Korean fever needing their last Brainstorm:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-KOREAN-BRAINSTORM-5th-Edition-VHTF-/140702007303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c27e4007

Challenge each other to a duel.

-Matt

Koby
02-16-2012, 05:46 PM
Those with Korean fever needing their last Brainstorm:

Challenge each other to a duel.

-Matt

I'm out for the count on this auction. See above. :D

Basaka
02-16-2012, 05:52 PM
There's a foil 7E City of Brass currently going for $20 on Ebay, but alas, no international shipping. I'm having no luck at all finding them...

sdematt
02-16-2012, 05:54 PM
Bid on it anyway, then have them ship it to a member you know?

-Matt

GGoober
02-16-2012, 05:56 PM
I already finished my playset of Korean Brainstorm last year :P 2 are NM-/NM, 2 are like EX- :( Maybe if I feel like it I'll upgrade the other two some day. But I usually end up having my own cards becoming NM-/EX after personal play since I don't double sleeve and I non-pile-shuffle my cards sometimes.

Not sure if I should get rid of my Korean City of Traitors. They seem to fetch a pretty high price these days but are not as heavily played as they used to be when Meandeck MUD was a popular deck.

I still can't justify forking out the $$ for Korean Pyroblasts O.o.

sdematt
02-16-2012, 05:58 PM
Why are you out? Broke? Dying? Have AIDS?

-Matt

Koby
02-16-2012, 06:04 PM
I still can't justify forking out the $$ for Korean Pyroblasts O.o.

Do what I did, Top 8 SCG then take credit (no taxes on store credit :D) then get gouged at their store.

I would post my recent pickups, except I haven't been home since Tuesday and won't be until Friday...

Loathing
02-16-2012, 06:33 PM
Those with Korean fever needing their last Brainstorm:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-KOREAN-BRAINSTORM-5th-Edition-VHTF-/140702007303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c27e4007

Challenge each other to a duel.

-Matt

And here I was hoping I could win it unnoticed :tongue:

sdematt
02-16-2012, 06:39 PM
You realize I'll be bidding against you just to drive the price up, right? :tongue:



-Matt

Basaka
02-16-2012, 07:17 PM
Bid on it anyway, then have them ship it to a member you know?

-Matt

That might work. Well, there's a big gaming (tabletop/RP/board/card etc) event on this weekend, so hopefully I get to see more trades.

Although I'm probably not going to see any Japanese LEDs in New Zealand, lol

Basaka
02-16-2012, 07:23 PM
Double Post...

sdematt
02-16-2012, 11:29 PM
Anyone going to GP Seattle that can receive a package for me?

-Matt

aahz
02-17-2012, 02:01 AM
Anyone have any Korean Urza's Saga Absolute Law? That's my anti burn pet card ... but I generally play lots of dudes.
Apparently, I do actually have one floating around. :tongue:
http://www.mns-images.org/aahz/absoluteCOPred.JPG
The only anti-burn card that I ever use is CoP:Red (and even then it's only because it looks awesome in Beta).

Marvin
02-17-2012, 10:43 AM
Some cool german Stuff for Highlander

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd450/Marvuen/P1000734-Kopie.jpg

Must for every LotR fans :)
*altered by Sandreline*

and a good old:

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd450/Marvuen/P1000748.jpg


As always, cards are up for grabs

regards

csy
02-17-2012, 04:26 PM
http://f.cl.ly/items/350k211s0o1t0g0y2w3Y/image.jpg

Got another one. It's pretty minty. Id say the new on us nm and the one I got a couple weeks ago is ex. 2 more to go! Got a great deal on this one too.

Haven't come in the mail yet but I got some more Korean reanimates and exhume. Japanese brainstorms daze and spell pierce.

Markers
02-18-2012, 07:59 AM
Recent catches on the www:
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Alpharares.jpg

In other news...finally finished the Beta dual playset project...The step: Get them all signed...:laugh:

troopatroop
02-18-2012, 09:16 AM
Yeah, but Korean Chill is 4 bucks and Korean COP:R is 50 cents. So Chill must be better.

Chill is better, in the sense that it doesn't tie up all of your mana, and they're still insanely crippled.

Maverick with E-Tutor would want Cop more, I'll admit. It's not strictly better, especially because Pyroblast is an answer.


In other news...finally finished the Beta dual playset project...The step: Get them all signed...:laugh:

Aka lose about $1000 in value overall to satisfy your latent hunger for bad ideas. SPICEY

sdematt
02-18-2012, 12:07 PM
Congratulations, Markus! That's a pretty big achievement. Before you do get them signed, let me know, since I might be picking up some signed ones that I'll just trade you straight across for.

-Matt

Koby
02-18-2012, 12:27 PM
I can't believe I still have this intact. Everyday I get asked if I opened it up yet... (beta)

https://p.twimg.com/AlqSchnCMAADIV4.jpg:large

https://p.twimg.com/Al1iAxPCEAAm_G0.jpg:large

Overboard much? Maybe.

The start of a Storm deck... if only Mirage was in Korean too...
https://p.twimg.com/Al887tUCQAIKA8Y.jpg:large

atropos
02-18-2012, 01:37 PM
I can't believe I still have this intact. Everyday I get asked if I opened it up yet... (beta)

https://p.twimg.com/AlqSchnCMAADIV4.jpg:large

Wow that is so beautiful. Only $7.95 back in the day, what a deal.

Basaka
02-18-2012, 01:47 PM
$7.95, adjusted for inflation... nope, still wish I can get a starter pack for that much. :p

Opening it up would be such a waste.

dernestor86
02-18-2012, 02:58 PM
two more pimp cards arrived today...any help an another summer ritual would be much appreciated =)

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/20120218205nkelga5h3p.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

sdematt
02-18-2012, 03:50 PM
*I'll just snap this photograph on top of my Russian Foil Dark Confidants, because I can*

Very nice stuff, Dernestor. How much did the Ritual set you back?

-Matt

Marvin
02-18-2012, 05:07 PM
haha lol :)
Nice backround :P
*I'll just snap this photograph on top of my Russian Foil Dark Confidants, because I can*

Very nice stuff, Dernestor. How much did the Ritual set you back?

-Matt

Loathing
02-18-2012, 06:25 PM
https://p.twimg.com/Al1iAxPCEAAm_G0.jpg:large

Very nice, if you decide you don't need more than a playset I need two more to complete mine :wink:

dernestor86
02-18-2012, 08:44 PM
*I'll just snap this photograph on top of my Russian Foil Dark Confidants, because I can*

Very nice stuff, Dernestor. How much did the Ritual set you back?

-Matt

it was actually pretty cheap in comparison to the icarus auction. got it for 350€, on the icarus auction i was 2nd highest bidder. i thought my offer was crazy but apparently there was someone who needed it more than me :-/

...and yea, shooting it on top of my bobs was on purpose of course xD
we have too few playsets of them floating around, so i thought, one more playset wont hurt ;-)

Harduvel
02-18-2012, 11:04 PM
it was actually pretty cheap in comparison to the icarus auction. got it for 350€, on the icarus auction i was 2nd highest bidder. i thought my offer was crazy but apparently there was someone who needed it more than me :-/

...and yea, shooting it on top of my bobs was on purpose of course xD
we have too few playsets of them floating around, so i thought, one more playset wont hurt ;-)

Amazing stuff, man! Absolutely beautiful.

Loathing
02-19-2012, 04:23 AM
You realize I'll be bidding against you just to drive the price up, right? :tongue:



-Matt

If you were serious you did a good job, I won for exactly my maximum bid :cool:

sdematt
02-19-2012, 11:57 AM
Nice job! I decided not to bid since you need it more than me! :P

-Matt

csy
02-19-2012, 12:37 PM
http://f.cl.ly/items/3U2D2v1z193e1M0n2h3Y/IMG_1406.jpg

had a good day of trading, I got my first 2 pieces of power by trading away 1 underground sea 4 goyfs handful of dark accession mythics and rares. then a bud traded me those sexy french entombs. Thanks to everyone at the PTQ in costa mesa yesterday that I traded with, and thanks to shuffle and cut for providing me with my first pieces of power.

Koby
02-19-2012, 02:08 PM
Oh it was that Mox Emerald... Check the top middle front. It's been shaved :(

Marvin
02-19-2012, 03:01 PM
Hey
Some japanese Foils I have to give away :)

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd450/Marvuen/P1000753.jpg

by the why, how much is the diabolic tutor?
Regards
~Marvin.

atropos
02-19-2012, 04:35 PM
Hey
Some japanese Foils I have to give away :)

Hey Marvin, what's the 8th edition black card to the right of Ponder?

PS beautiful foils!

Royal Ass.
02-19-2012, 04:42 PM
Tutore Diabolico :smile:

Basaka
02-19-2012, 04:57 PM
Wouldn't mind a foil Japanese ponder for my storm deck :p

Nice Diabolic Tutor too!

csy
02-19-2012, 06:17 PM
Oh it was that Mox Emerald... Check the top middle front. It's been shaved :(

yeah, she's got her flaws. But as my first mox it was more or less the easiest bandaid to rip off in the venture to power 9.

Marvin
02-19-2012, 06:37 PM
Anyone has a rough idea of the diabolic tutors value?

death
02-19-2012, 07:24 PM
$10

MoxMonkey
02-19-2012, 11:32 PM
Some goodies I picked up today:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/429640_3299377240128_1138816534_33274819_430574632_n.jpg

sdematt
02-20-2012, 12:30 AM
I love Diamontmox. I tried to get a playset for a while, but everyone wanted infinite. But, I always announce my Mox Diamonds as Diamontmoxen just for fun :tongue:

Does anyone else announce pimp cards in the language they're written? As in, does anyone cast "Tropeninsels" instead of Trops when they're playing FBB's, or is it just me? Don't worry, I'm not so much of an asshole as to announce "BETA Taiga" :tongue:

-Matt

aahz
02-20-2012, 01:27 AM
I love Diamontmox. I tried to get a playset for a while, but everyone wanted infinite. But, I always announce my Mox Diamonds as Diamontmoxen just for fun :tongue:

Does anyone else announce pimp cards in the language they're written? As in, does anyone cast "Tropeninsels" instead of Trops when they're playing FBB's, or is it just me? Don't worry, I'm not so much of an asshole as to announce "BETA Taiga" :tongue:

-Matt
I do that for languages that I know/can pronounce (e.g. German, French), but not for those that are gibberish (Russian, Korean, Japanese, Chinese). So in EDH, I play Daemonisher Lehrermeister (though in Vintage I play BETA, so it's just regular DT). Obviously, you never announce A/B cards. That's the whole point of playing them. :cool:

Mr.C
02-20-2012, 02:51 AM
I love Diamontmox. I tried to get a playset for a while, but everyone wanted infinite. But, I always announce my Mox Diamonds as Diamontmoxen just for fun :tongue:

Does anyone else announce pimp cards in the language they're written? As in, does anyone cast "Tropeninsels" instead of Trops when they're playing FBB's, or is it just me? Don't worry, I'm not so much of an asshole as to announce "BETA Taiga" :tongue:

-Matt

Yep! And then I get the "Is that Spanish you're speaking?"

jjjoness'
02-20-2012, 09:35 AM
I love Diamontmox. I tried to get a playset for a while, but everyone wanted infinite.

What's infinite like in finite numbers? They go for like 20€ here in Germany. FTV and decreasing popularity of Lftl based decks really made them drop in price.

dernestor86
02-20-2012, 11:20 AM
What's infinite like in finite numbers? They go for like 20€ here in Germany. FTV and decreasing popularity of Lftl based decks really made them drop in price.

in relative numbers only the korean version was ever expensive. in absolute numbers none of these is expensive.

only expensive moxen are the original five and jap foil chrome mox as well as russian foil mox opal (i got 175$ for mine and could easily have gotten more if it wasnt involved in a bigger trade).

the rest is maybe expensive to 14 year old boys. man, what would i have done when i was 12 again now. back then with 11-12 years duals were so cheap and so were P9. when i see this young kiddos now they have only crap cards. poor young generation :-(

they need to reprint some cards as kiddo edition lol xD

RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
02-20-2012, 12:02 PM
Pimped TES to be posted later this week. Picked up some French fbb duals at GP Lincoln and loads of foils. :laugh:

sdematt
02-20-2012, 02:06 PM
At the time when I wanted them, all my sources wanted $50 when regular Mox Diamonds were like $35. I just wasn't interested in them at $50 :tongue:

But, 20 Euro, that I could handle.

-Matt

whienot
02-20-2012, 03:33 PM
Does anyone else announce pimp cards in the language they're written?

You know it. Faux-Pas your Zwang is my all-time favorite.

CorpT
02-20-2012, 04:50 PM
You know it. Faux-Pas your Zwang is my all-time favorite.

What about Retard?

Koby
02-20-2012, 04:55 PM
What about Retard?

There might be Justification for that.

dernestor86
02-20-2012, 08:14 PM
At the time when I wanted them, all my sources wanted $50 when regular Mox Diamonds were like $35. I just wasn't interested in them at $50 :tongue:

But, 20 Euro, that I could handle.

-Matt

where´s the big difference between 35 and 50$? it´s not like the difference between 350 and 500$...

german is harder to get than english over there, so a premium has to be accepted in general. havent followed german mox diamonds on ebay, but i bet if someone sells them there they would fetch easily 15-20% premium just because of their cool name.

mini1337s
02-20-2012, 08:29 PM
I don't always take pictures of my cards, but when I do, I make sure they are scanned backwards in uneven rows :)
My G/W Maverick deck:
http://i.imgur.com/n0kXh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G6K9d.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TM5Ni.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2dp18.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/u8USj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/18JQs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KCQbQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JQSbp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/baRKG.jpg

Favourite deck, hands down. Upgrades include Basic Lands to Foil Unhinged (in the mail) and all Savannah's to Unlimited, and eventually to Beta.

sdematt
02-20-2012, 11:26 PM
Dernestor, the difference between 35 and 50 is what I'm going to pay, and what I'm not going to pay. 40? Sure. 50? Nope. It's not like they were rare enough that I'd never see them again. Even then, if it's more than I want to spend, I'll find it elsewhere (not many cards are unique, so I don't have to worry).

-Matt

coraz86
02-20-2012, 11:32 PM
There might be Justification for that.

/thread

Also--maybe this belongs in Mish-Mash, if it needs to be moved so be it--but I have it on good authority that one can wear an Iona basketball jersey (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fantasy-roto-arcade/bracket-big-board-iona-one-five-true-mid-153733572.html).

One wonders if they're Chinese, but regardless; I kind of want one.

Maxe
02-21-2012, 04:24 AM
[...]
Favourite deck, hands down. Upgrades include Basic Lands to Foil Unhinged (in the mail) [...]

Good call! Unhinged foil Plains and Forest looks awesome.
Rest of ur deck too, i like clean english cards. But u should consider to buy some perfect sleeves for all these foil cards.

balthor
02-22-2012, 10:30 AM
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w514/balthor316/0cf3bc3c.jpg

Got this beauty the other day :smile:

balthor
02-22-2012, 11:12 AM
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w514/balthor316/032.jpg

Set complete :tongue:

PaRa
02-22-2012, 03:57 PM
lovely Rituals!

GWr Maverick - part 1

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILKNIGHTSOFTHERELIQUARYSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILMOTHEROFRUNESSMALL-1.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILNOBLEHIERARCHBIRDSSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILSCRYBOOZEMYSTICSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAOFOILTEEGPRIDEMAGEMYSTICSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILAVENMINDCENSORDRYADARBORSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILGREENSUNSZENITHSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/FOILENGSWORDSTOPLOWSHARESSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAOFOILLOAMLIBRARYJITTESWORDSSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILPUNISHINGFIREPLATEAUSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILGROVETOWERSMALL.jpg

PaRa
02-22-2012, 03:59 PM
GWr Maverick - part II

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/BETASAVANNAHFBBTAIGASMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILWOODEDFOOTHILLSGURUSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/WINDSWEPTHEATHSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/FOILWASTELANDSKARAKASMAZESMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILBOJUKABOGSMALL.jpg

Sideboard:

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/BETABLASTSGRIPSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/JAPFOILSURIGCALGRIPSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/FOILELSPETHCANONISTBATTERSKULLSMALL.jpg
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv311/PaRalein/MAVERICK/THRUNGARRUKSMALL.jpg