[DO NOT TRY TO SELL IN HERE] Pimp Legacy Decks

[Dia_Bot]

Wow sick trade indeed. Btw that necro is awsome! :)

[bruizar]

apart from the wasteful signatures, awesome stuff!

[Blizzard96]

Terminator necro: (just a better scan)

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9420/necrog.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/necrog.jpg/)


Other stuff:

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4917/zwischenablage01po.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/zwischenablage01po.jpg/)
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6128/xsdr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/xsdr.jpg/)
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4765/topmmw.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/topmmw.jpg/)
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3467/tarnponder.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/tarnponder.jpg/)
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1833/ocit.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/ocit.jpg/)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6154/ledjesus.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/ledjesus.jpg/)
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9697/lavaancsts.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/714/lavaancsts.jpg/)
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7319/bwdd.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/bwdd.jpg/)

[xfxf]

When looking at your first post, that Necrominator was the first one to catch my eye. Awesome alter man!

[csy]

could we PLEASE stop quoting giant panels of images? it makes the threads infinitely longer than necessary. If you appreciate the collection, just say so no need to remind everyone of the awesome we all just saw.

/back seat moderation

[xfxf]

Where's the quoted image in this page that bothers you? Just a post above yours should be the kind of response you were looking for I believe.

[thegrinningdemon]

Where's the quoted image in this page that bothers you? Just a post above yours should be the kind of response you were looking for I believe.

The previous page is full of them.

[csy]

Where's the quoted image in this page that bothers you? Just a post above yours should be the kind of response you were looking for I believe.

it was a general rant, not specific to this page.

[sdematt]

Korean Chills: received.

Burn, get out of my house.

-Matt

[Koby]

Korean Chills: received.

Burn, get out of my house.

-Matt

Pics, or it didn't happen bro, you know the drill.

[sdematt]

I has them right here, but I don't want to take the time to scan them. I'll show them in my Thopter deck when I post Saturday. Fair? I'll also have my Beta Tundra by then.

-Matt

[Koby]

Looking forward to it :D

[socialite]

New project, more Foil Strands in mail. :(

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7117/6852443260_33c38e1f4b_o.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6050/6852443916_2af142465f_o.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6097/6852444652_7fc465c8c9_o.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6057/6998568579_eaefb34690_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/6852445760_bf2c414376_o.jpg

[Zakman86]

Pics, or it didn't happen bro, you know the drill.

They're legit, I picked them up at Memphis for him from SCG and sent them to him.

Glad they showed up :)

[sumbahdy]

@Ertai's Familiar

I like the Korean basics. Are they also from 4th ed? Seeing it printed in WB makes them look cleaner but a BB one could be even better.

[jamesh]

could we PLEASE stop quoting giant panels of images? it makes the threads infinitely longer than necessary. If you appreciate the collection, just say so no need to remind everyone of the awesome we all just saw.

/back seat moderation

Yes agreed, I was going to say this actually.

@Blizzard96 nice burning wishes

has the source done away with that requirement for people to post a certain number of times before they can post images, hope so

[Royal Ass.]

Love the mint WB power. Always loved Unlimited Sol Ring too. And thank you for not playing 8th edition merchant scroll just cause it's foil. It's hideous.

[bfeingersh]

@Ertai's Familiar

I like the Korean basics. Are they also from 4th ed? Seeing it printed in WB makes them look cleaner but a BB one could be even better.

5th Ed. 4th has black borders and the art from ABU. 5th is WB and has goofy new art.

[socialite]

@Ertai's Familiar

I like the Korean basics. Are they also from 4th ed? Seeing it printed in WB makes them look cleaner but a BB one could be even better.

5th Ed.


Love the mint WB power. Always loved Unlimited Sol Ring too. And thank you for not playing 8th edition merchant scroll just cause it's foil. It's hideous.

Thanks. Old Merchant Scroll art is far superior!


5th Ed. 4th has black borders and the art from ABU. 5th is WB and has goofy new art.

If by goofy you mean way better, then yes. :wink:

[ninjamasta]

i want some korean\jap and other delver`s)
http://cs5844.userapi.com/u6741432/151119218/x_0104eec0.jpg

[ReAnimator]

Not super pimp but i finally finished my set of FNM Foils. I'd say i have maybe a third in playsets (including STP and BS). I've won about 75% of these as i've been playing FNM's for wayyyyyy to long.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6228/6855299328_632f531c98.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8610010@N07/6855299328/)
DSCN3069 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8610010@N07/6855299328/) by donutboy420 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8610010@N07/), on Flickr
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6049/6855299836_c07a477e9c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8610010@N07/6855299836/)
DSCN3073 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8610010@N07/6855299836/) by donutboy420 (http://www.flickr.com/people/8610010@N07/), on Flickr

[socialite]

That's an awesome way to look at the evolution of magic.

Also your play mat collection is ludicrous, much props to that.

[ReAnimator]

That's an awesome way to look at the evolution of magic.

Also your play mat collection is ludicrous, much props to that.

Thanks! The thing that bugs me the most about the FNM set is how there are 4 different styles of FNM card in the last 2 years, honestly wotc pick something and go with it. But yeah it is a cool reminder of magic history, and what used to be popular.

The play mats aren't really a collection of mine, i bought a collection from a friend and they were his from attending. I took the pics to try to get them assessed but my account from MTGLibrarities never got approved and i've never found any concrete ebay data, or a dealer that would tell me what they are worth straight as opposed to what they would pay for them. I want to get rid of them eventually, and all the money would go to my friend but i have to wait till i have more info to go on. I don't do any ebaying so i don't want to just put them up there and hope for the best and get ripped off. True rarities and collectibles in magic are hard to pin down sometimes.

[PeAcH]

http://manainfinito.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/CONTENT/620_barajas_pimp_manuel_gomez_zoo.jpg

A new release of PIMP pictures @ Maná Infinito.

This time, it´s Manel Gomez (well know Zoo player and PIMPer) turn to show his beauties.

http://manainfinito.com/articulos/legacy/barajas-pimp-zoo

Enjoy!

[nedleeds]

5th Ed.



Thanks. Old Merchant Scroll art is far superior!



If by goofy you mean way better, then yes. :wink:

I like the aesthetics of your deck man. You know you want to take some acetone and go ALLWHYTEZ.

[sdematt]

If you go all WB on that deck, I'll have to come rescue that deck.

http://analogmedium.com/blog/2008/04/commando1.jpg

[socialite]

I like the aesthetics of your deck man. You know you want to take some acetone and go ALLWHYTEZ.

Unfortunately for the acetone fans I don't have a boarder color preference. I'm a big fan of Korean 5th as it's pretty hard to find most items in nice condition when compared to 4th. I have sets of every Korean land from before M12; not a huge fan of the new font. Still need to find a Foil Korean Ghost Quarter for Karn EDH. :frown:

[sdematt]

I said I'd post my decks sometime, so here goes, since they're complete...ish.

Korean Chills, just for Koby.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0224.jpg


Aggro-Loam - Wherever I may Loam

Lands

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0216.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0217.jpg

A/B Duals, Korean Volrath's Stronghold, English other.

Non-Land

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0218.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0219.jpg

1 Russian Pulse, 3 Crushers, 2 Dark Confidant (2 incoming), 3 Terminate.
3 Korean Seismic Assault
1 English Sylvan Library (I have 2, one's somewhere...)
English everything else, 2 Ooze and 3 Tarmogoyf not included.

Sideboard to come.

Thopters - Thopters Gunna Thopt

Lands

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0220.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0221.jpg

Russian Fetches and Ruins, Korean Tomb, Beta Duals (1 Tundra missing, picking up Saturday). I love the moodiness of the art on those basics. Feels very...sad, almost.

The Core

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0222.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0223.jpg

2 Korean Bridge, 1 Korean Humility.
1 Russian Oblivion Ring, 3 Jace, 3 Spell Snare, 3 Thopter Tokens, 3 Foundry, 1 Sword of the Meek.
English other stuff.

Sideboard

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0225.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0226.jpg

Russian Pierces, Blood Moon, Cage (incoming), Crypt, Elspeth (incoming), Pithing Needle, Metamorph.
German Karmic justice, REB.
English EE and Moat.
2 Korean Chill, 1 Korean Wrath of God.

-Matt

[Koby]

That's what I'm talking about! Nice duals :cool:

[Petal Collector]

The start of a Maverick sideboard:

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l501/Petal_Collector/IMG_20120321_232505-1.jpg

[Teknique]

I opened a pack of Prophecy I found lying around and all the commons were out of focus.

Is there any value in blurry misprints? I would take a picture, but autofocus actually makes the cards look pretty normal :frown:

[RJM]

@sdematt: Sick duals, but I expected nothing less from you. ;)

Nice Choke too, Petal Collector. ...I'm in the middle of foiling out GWb Maverick, and just found an NM 8th foil Choke for 50 cents. It was most triumphant.

[Solaran_X]

Ancestral Recall alteration is done. As with all my previously posted alterations, the base card is a fair/poor condition Unlimited card. I intentionally went for the worst condition cards I could find that still had a semi-clean front and were structurally stable enough to be played.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/ancestralrecpinkie.jpg

I'll post scans of the remaining cards (Black Lotus, Mox Ruby, Time Vault, 2x Unlimited Underground Seas, 2x Unlimited Volcanic Islands, and 2x Unlimited Tropical Islands) as my artist finishes them and sends them to me.

[morphilou]

http://images3.hiboox.com/images/0110/07ff036fd0f6c14fc6820e15632f146f.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/divers/dual-summer-fbb,07ff036fd0f6c14fc6820e15632f146f.jpg.html)


look russian foil and summer

[sauce]

sweet summer duals

[Solaran_X]

sweet summer duals
On a classy bed of FBB Underground Seas.

[Shimi]

OMFG.. nice summer duals and LOTS of FBB Seas.. I just need 2 U. Sea Fbb to finish my pimp TES but those are pretty hard to find in Brazil.

[sdematt]

Did I count 40 Seas there?

-Matt

[Solaran_X]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/moxrubytrix.jpg

Just came in my e-mail a few minutes ago. 8 of the 9 are officially done now.

And I count 39 FBB Underground Seas, at least 3 of which are signed.

[sdematt]

Looking good, Solaran!

-Matt

[RJM]

<-- Regrets selling off his FBB duals. Those look so purty.

[Koby]

Jesus H Christ! That's a shittonfuck of money/pimp duals.

My wallet just cried tears of blood.

[csy]

if you have 2 NM-M French seas we need to talk if you want some cash. :D

[sdematt]

Unless you have Jap Foils, Summer, or Gradable Alpha, you can kiss those duals goodbye. Philip very rarely deals in cash :frown:

-Matt

[atropos]

@morphilou: Those are beautiful summer duals. Excellent work.

@everybody: How much do summer duals go for? I don't even know where to look.

[Sea R Hill]

Please please please oh please stop ruining Vintage cards with Poneys...

There is such a limited number of these out, using played P9 to do this crap is NOT an excuse. It only makes most of us want to scream. Or cry. :cry:

[Picc]

Please please please oh please stop ruining Vintage cards with Poneys...

There is such a limited number of these out, using played P9 to do this crap is NOT an excuse. It only makes most of us want to scream. Or cry. :cry:

But the rest of us enjoy his unique expression of something he enjoys with cards that he will likely never trade anyway.

Its no different then the guy who had Disney Characters (http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7777;sa=showPosts) done on his beat Beta power.

Mint cards sure I can see an argument being made to preserve them but as far as played stuff goes do what makes you happy and don't venerate cardboard to much. I still remember cracking and playing these cards unsleeved on the playground blacktop. As much as they are part of our collective history as gamers their just card.

[Julian23]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7055/6862362286_b8a1209325_b.jpg

I just realized I never actually posted this to this thread. This is one of the cards that despite their value, will always have a way higher personal value to me. A good Russian friend of mine, Sergey from Moscow, gave it to me as a present at GP Amsterdam. We had met previously at GP Madrid 2010 where he (despite not knowing me) lent me a Moat for my deck.

Sergey says it's a Russian custom to give altered cards to friends. Definitely one of my best (maybe the very best) memory not only associated with Magic :-)

[azador]

Please please please oh please stop ruining Vintage cards with Poneys...

There is such a limited number of these out, using played P9 to do this crap is NOT an excuse. It only makes most of us want to scream. Or cry. :cry:

You've clearly never been to a GP, where you see stacks of power in most of the dealer's cases. Unlimited power isn't as rare as you think.
And even if it was super rare as you seem to think it is, he has the right to do whatever he likes with his property. Hell, I don't like ponies as all, but I still give mad props to him for putting the time and money into making his beat up unlimited power truely HIS.

[Koby]

I don't consider $600 played UNL Mox Jet to be a real price. Them dealers are whack!

[Solaran_X]

I don't consider $600 played UNL Mox Jet to be a real price. Them dealers are whack!
I don't think the dealers actually expect to get that for the card. You have to haggle. I think they set the high price to scare off people who aren't serious about buying Power.

On the flip side, I also see dealers who don't price their Power and expect the buyer to negotiate. This works similar to overpricing the Power - if someone isn't serious about buying the Power, they probably won't even talk about it to find out where the starting point is for negotiations.

[nedleeds]

I don't consider $600 played UNL Mox Jet to be a real price. Them dealers are whack!

That's absurd. I picked up a beta jet for a hundred less. It's a little beat but seriously WTF.

[sdematt]

That price is a bit closer to a NM Beta Jet :P

-Matt

[nedleeds]

That price is a bit closer to a NM Beta Jet :P

-Matt

I got a pearl, emerald, jet and a library for $1100. So I'm not sure what the shakedown was. I still need a ruby, sapphire and lotus before gencon. If I can't find a really beat lotus I may just get a beat to hades UL and get it altered.

... not with ponies though ...

[whienot]

Hmmm, something's not quite (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-SET-COMPLETO-P9-ORIGINAL-UNLIMITED-TUTTE-LE-POWER-NINE-anche-in-zona-/120882736659?pt=Cards&hash=item1c252c2e13) right here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-SET-COMPLETO-P9-ORIGINAL-BETA-TUTTE-LE-POWER-NINE-Ritiro-anche-in-zona-/120882727054?pt=Cards&hash=item1c252c088e).

[TheElvishPiper]

I think that if he spent the money on the power, he has the right to do whatever he wants with it. I just recently completed my set of power, and while I have no desire to have it altered, if I did, I would want to i think that I should be able to do what I want with it.

Here is a pretty sweet video I found :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT7eEc1nQKQ

[Solaran_X]

Hmmm, something's not quite (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-SET-COMPLETO-P9-ORIGINAL-UNLIMITED-TUTTE-LE-POWER-NINE-anche-in-zona-/120882736659?pt=Cards&hash=item1c252c2e13) right here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-SET-COMPLETO-P9-ORIGINAL-BETA-TUTTE-LE-POWER-NINE-Ritiro-anche-in-zona-/120882727054?pt=Cards&hash=item1c252c088e).
That first link has the most poorly made fakes I've ever seen. As for the second set, I can't even tell which set of "P9" he is selling.

[Olesch]

Beta power huh? you need to tell me where you buyed all those cards for that!


I got a pearl, emerald, jet and a library for $1100. So I'm not sure what the shakedown was. I still need a ruby, sapphire and lotus before gencon. If I can't find a really beat lotus I may just get a beat to hades UL and get it altered.

... not with ponies though ...

[thefringthing]

The eBay link shows a Fraternal Exaltation, which is a much bigger deal than mere Power 9.

[Petal Collector]

The eBay link shows a Fraternal Exaltation, which is a much bigger deal than mere Power 9.

It also shows a Splendid Genesis next to it. Another thing I noticed is that the altered Trop pictured on that page looks just like this one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Magic-Altered-Art-Tropical-Island-BETA-Guru-Played-Dual-Land-Hand-Painted-/200729552599?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebc69e6d7) that is also on eBay. A lot of the cards don't look quite right.

[Solaran_X]

So...who wants to report the listing to eBay as fraud?

I feel bad now...I didn't even notice the two Garfield cards or the altered Tropical (which is, ironically, the same fashion my Unlimited duals are being altered into).

[whienot]

You can even see a test-print Counterspell standing in front of his mouse. Zoom in enough and you can see where he's practiced Mark Poole's signature... Classy.


Already reported.

[Solaran_X]

Did anyone else notice how warped that "PSA 9 Unlimited Black Lotus" case is?

[Petal Collector]

Did anyone else notice how warped that "PSA 9 Unlimited Black Lotus" case is?

That stack of what looks like graded cards looks like they are just printouts; the cases don't seem to have enough depth to be 3D.

To make this post on-topic:

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l501/Petal_Collector/IMG_20110811_121516.jpg

I actually had a 4th Tundra and a complete set of Seas, but unfortunately I sold/traded them. Never had Volcanics, so I usually just play some sort of Bant deck.

[nedleeds]

That first link has the most poorly made fakes I've ever seen. As for the second set, I can't even tell which set of "P9" he is selling.

He's selling a badly chopped pile of collectors edition. I imagine he intends on this being the last eBay auction of his life.

[nedleeds]

Beta power huh? you need to tell me where you buyed all those cards for that!

Only after the Swedish and Italian guys who bought out my 40 A/B duals on eBay 6 years ago let me refund their money; and give me back my lands :cry:

[dernestor86]

some heavy ass duals have been posted on this and the previous page ;-)
love it!

[sdematt]

Got my Beta Tundra #3 today. Thopters: complete. Achievement unlocked?

-Matt

[Solaran_X]

One of the auctions has been pulled. First one up, with just the UN "Power" pictured, is still up however.

I lied. He reposted the auction eBay pulled down. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-SET-COMPLETO-P9-ORIGINAL-BETA-TUTTE-LE-POWER-NINE-anche-in-zona-/120883774560?pt=Cards&hash=item1c253c0460#ht_1694wt_1397)

[H]

I think that if he spent the money on the power, he has the right to do whatever he wants with it. I just recently completed my set of power, and while I have no desire to have it altered, if I did, I would want to i think that I should be able to do what I want with it.

Here is a pretty sweet video I found :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT7eEc1nQKQ

Yeah, that's is a friend of mine, Jesse, funniest part is, that Lotus wasn't his, :eek: :laugh:

[Solaran_X]

Yeah, that's is a friend of mine, Jesse, funniest part is, that Lotus wasn't his, :eek: :laugh:
Using a Sharpie to black border a card never worked too well for me. I mean, I've done okay on some cards with a Sharpie (Revised Fastbond, REBs, and BEBs). But the ink typically seems to dry as more of a purple than a black. The guy doing my Power and duals uses an acrylic paint for the borders. It dries a nice deep black, but it's shiny.

Oh well...looks hot in a sleeve.

[Olesch]

If it was NM/Mint Beta duals maybe it was me :laugh:


Only after the Swedish and Italian guys who bought out my 40 A/B duals on eBay 6 years ago let me refund their money; and give me back my lands :cry:

[H]

Using a Sharpie to black border a card never worked too well for me. I mean, I've done okay on some cards with a Sharpie (Revised Fastbond, REBs, and BEBs). But the ink typically seems to dry as more of a purple than a black. The guy doing my Power and duals uses an acrylic paint for the borders. It dries a nice deep black, but it's shiny.

Oh well...looks hot in a sleeve.

I have a Revised Demonic Tutor that I Sharpied in the boarder on. In a sleeve, it does look almost as if it was really black bordered to begin with. Of course, a close inspection reveals that, one, I did a shitty job coloring it in (I did it on a whim with no tape lines or anything, just free hand), two, it is rather shiny, and three, the reason I colored it, which is that it was near ripped in half (I may have ran over it with a chair, once upon a time).

Coloring in the boarders is never going to be perfect, it's near a crime for somethings, in my opinion, but I've never had the Sharpie come out looking purple, per se.

Also, since I have seen that Lotus in person, it looks odd, because the wear is only across the frame but not the boarder...

[jjjoness']

God that's awful..

If your going to black border something for the love of god use acrylics....

[Solaran_X]

God that's awful..

If your going to black border something for the love of god use acrylics....
Speaking of acrylics...my artist told me last night the Time Vault should be done today and I can then post the scan of it.

[kingsey]

Got my Beta Tundra #3 today. Thopters: complete. Achievement unlocked?

-Matt



Achievement unlocked = ramen noodles for dinner for the next week.:tongue:

[Solaran_X]

Here's a mash of the scans my artist sent me as he completed each card. On April 1st, when I get all my cards back from him, I'll post scans of the full P9, the Time Vault, and the six Unlimited duals.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/AlteredPower.jpg

[Dia_Bot]

Even though I can't really get behind the whole pony theme I do really like the mox emerald alteration with the coboy hat pony.

[from Cairo]

Even though I can't really get behind the whole pony theme I do really like the mox emerald alteration with the cowboy hat pony.

Funny, was thinking the same thing. That the Emerald is kind of a nice alter. I'd prefer to play beat unaltered unlimited power personally, but if a player enjoys playing with pony alters, that's their business.

[Koby]

Obligatory

Obligatory.

[Solaran_X]

Obligatory

Obligatory.
That was extremely disturbing...and a very sad representation of bronies.

Also.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/you_made_fluttershy_cry_by_heliotroph-d3jqb5k_large.jpg

[ivanpei]

Here are some pick ups from gp kl. I thought jap foil prices were insane, but I coughed up the money for this:

http://m.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-b.ak/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/555585_10150772269581834_512416833_11358693_393844621_n.jpg

Also, another pick up for edh:

http://m.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-h.ak/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/558106_10150772261066834_512416833_11358577_1757900080_n.jpg

The things we do for edh, haha its fun pimping the format though.

[Mr.C]

Eh, not into the pony thing, but to each his own, I guess. Good on you for having the balls to play with that.

[sdematt]

I didn't see the cowboy hat, but that freaking made it.

There is a large following of My Little Pony, even though it's a bit girly, because it IS so girly. It's almost because it is so one way, its juxtaposition as an interest of men makes it that much more interesting.

@ Kingsey

Pretty much, but it just means chicken/fish but no steak. /tears everywhere

:cool:

-Matt

[Goin Aggro]

Funny, was thinking the same thing. That the Emerald is kind of a nice alter. I'd prefer to play beat unaltered unlimited power personally, but if a player enjoys playing with pony alters, that's their business.

For some reason, I had the idea stuck in my head that most of that power that Solaran had altered was pretty beat in the first place. (Maybe he posted it back a few pages, could be lying though.)

I think if you're going to get really beat power altered to look unique and attempt to salvage the art, props to you. But I also think that the NM/Clean copies should be left alone.

There aren't that many to alter, donchaknow?

[Solaran_X]

For some reason, I had the idea stuck in my head that most of that power that Solaran had altered was pretty beat in the first place. (Maybe he posted it back a few pages, could be lying though.)

I think if you're going to get really beat power altered to look unique and attempt to salvage the art, props to you. But I also think that the NM/Clean copies should be left alone.

There aren't that many to alter, donchaknow?
"Pretty beat" would be a compliment to some of the cards.

Moxen Front
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Scan0003.jpg

Moxen Back
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Scan0004.jpg

Lotus, Big Blues, Time Vault Front
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Scan0001.jpg

Lotus, Big Blues, Time Vault Back
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Scan0002.jpg

[jjflipped]

Also, another pick up for edh:

http://m.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-h.ak/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/558106_10150772261066834_512416833_11358577_1757900080_n.jpg

The things we do for edh, haha its fun pimping the format though.

What did you pay on that twister? And I cant really tell, is it alpha? I really want to get rid of my mint signed beta one...

[sdematt]

That is Alpha. And it is pretty.


-Matt

[ivanpei]

I got it in a trade with the dealer. It was valued at $500 USD which I thought was a pretty good deal for such a good nick Alpha Twister. If it was Beta, I'd think the deal was so-so market price, but its extremely difficult to find a decent condition Alpha twister. Minty goodness is gonna be in my EDH deck.

[TheAardvark]

Yeah, I am very much in the market to upgrade my UL Twister to Beta, but finding people who want to do that is incredibly difficult. Blah.

[bfeingersh]

"Pretty beat" would be a compliment to some of the cards.

snip
Meh, I have duals in worse shape than those. I'm not a stickler for card condition as long as they're playable for things of that nature (<$50 cards I prefer NM). I'm still not a fan of the pony alters, but if you don't think you're ever going to let them go then it's your decision to make.

[MoxMonkey]

I got it in a trade with the dealer. It was valued at $500 USD which I thought was a pretty good deal for such a good nick Alpha Twister. If it was Beta, I'd think the deal was so-so market price, but its extremely difficult to find a decent condition Alpha twister. Minty goodness is gonna be in my EDH deck.

I got my EX alpha twister for 350 which isn't too bad. I tried upgrading my UL to beta and failed.

[nedleeds]

I think condition is mostly about being a player or a collector (or just obscenely rich and willing to riffle shuffle gem mint alpha lotii).

If you are going to play with them in regular tournaments it's kind of hard to justify a premium on mint stuff as it's eventually going to show play wear.

If you are into collecting to collect, then why not. I don't own any cards I don't play with (maybe my Korean Mawcor's).

[kingsey]

I think condition is mostly about being a player or a collector (or just obscenely rich and willing to riffle shuffle gem mint alpha lotii).

If you are going to play with them in regular tournaments it's kind of hard to justify a premium on mint stuff as it's eventually going to show play wear.

If you are into collecting to collect, then why not. I don't own any cards I don't play with (maybe my Korean Mawcor's).


I think if u double sleeve and don't shuffle like a idiot a ex card should stay ex for a long time, or am I wrong ??

[nedleeds]

I think if u double sleeve and don't shuffle like a idiot a ex card should stay ex for a long time, or am I wrong ??

Yeah, I guess I mean a vintage bi-weekly level of play. Eventually you'll see some bowing, maybe you nick an edge push shuffling.

The vintage stuff I still have is pretty well worn. But should we ever get vintage rolling around here (Atlanta), I'll be sleeving it up and shuffling it.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6pIxFSaRApU/T3DuHVK-EzI/AAAAAAAAAOE/656OSk5-bt0/s640/069%2520%25282%2529.png

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fj4UkrQlDIU/T3Due3zL2MI/AAAAAAAAAOM/YmCJuLajHuY/s640/069.png

I'm hoping to make it to bazaar of moxen, and absolutely playing vintage at Gencon ...

Edit: HAaahhaha my Gauntlets of Might ... probably not considered a must have type one card anymore.

[kingsey]

I want that beta jet. Its been card i've wanted since i first started. I did just pick up two NM beta d tutors yesterday tho.:smile:

[nedleeds]

I want that beta jet. Its been card i've wanted since i first started. I did just pick up two NM beta d tutors yesterday tho.:smile:

My tutor is really played. A solid year of on and off unsleeved play ... then some time in a 250 deck (for those that remember that format).

Mox Jet is my favorite gem as well. It fuels my favorite turn one play.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pmTCmXGnCfw/T3IqOJnPP3I/AAAAAAAAAOU/ZRiuz-vrADM/s800/void.jpg

[kingsey]

My tutor is really played. A solid year of on and off unsleeved play ... then some time in a 250 deck (for those that remember that format).

Mox Jet is my favorite gem as well. It fuels my favorite turn one play.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-pmTCmXGnCfw/T3IqOJnPP3I/AAAAAAAAAOU/ZRiuz-vrADM/s800/void.jpg

U need moar beta dark ritual!!
:laugh:

[nedleeds]

U need moar beta dark ritual!!
:laugh:

No way brah ... the flavor text on tempest ritual is too hot.

"If there is such a thing as too much power, I have not discovered it." -Volrath

I'm guessing that's Volrath in the baller ass art as well.

[sdematt]

I don't think it is.

-Matt

[SmallFish]

Newest members of the collection. Dig the pants.

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb468/elPawlik/IMAG0418.jpg

[thefringthing]

Second FBB German Underground Sea, Beta Dark Rituals, and Unglued Goblin tokens are on their way to me. Would people be interested in seeing a English non-foil deck in this thread? (I don't like foils, but I do like black borders and original printings.)

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

Second FBB German Underground Sea, Beta Dark Rituals, and Unglued Goblin tokens are on their way to me. Would people be interested in seeing a English non-foil deck in this thread? (I don't like foils, but I do like black borders and original printings.)

You show me yours, and I'll show you mine.

[caiomarcos]

Second FBB German Underground Sea, Beta Dark Rituals, and Unglued Goblin tokens are on their way to me. Would people be interested in seeing a English non-foil deck in this thread? (I don't like foils, but I do like black borders and original printings.)

That's what I dig, originals. Please share.

[JustPAT4]

No way brah ... the flavor text on tempest ritual is too hot.

"If there is such a thing as too much power, I have not discovered it." -Volrath

I'm guessing that's Volrath in the baller ass art as well.

I do especially love the art and flavor text on the Tempest ritual. Confusingly, I don't think it's intended to be Volrath, though. This is the look I'm familiar with:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Vol.JPG

[thefringthing]

That's what I dig, originals. Please share.I'll do that when everything gets here, then.

[sdematt]

Russian Foil Marsh Flats? Hawt.

-Matt

[Solaran_X]

Both of these scans are larger than the previous ones supplied by my artist. But it is irrelevant...I'll be scanning them all together once they're back.

Time Vault:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/scan0026.jpg

Black Lotus:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/10.jpg

All that is left is Spike on the foil Voltaic Keys and DD Tezzeret the Seekers, and my Guru duals. And my artist is correcting Celestia's mane and tail - the green isn't visible enough and he missed the pink portion.

[Koby]

One thousand Vintage decks just died from internal bleeding.

[Solaran_X]

One thousand Vintage decks just died from internal bleeding.
Good. Less competition at Vintage Worlds.

[Zakman86]

Good. Less competition at Vintage Worlds.

Hope you have an extra Time Walk if you plan to play in it, the art's clearly not recognizable on that one. The Time Vault's iffy too. (The MTR just got changed, they would have been fine before that.)

EDIT: New MTR states:
Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.

[i_set_fire]

All right I can't take it anymore. I thought I was fine with people altering the cards they own, but this is ridiculous. Crap like this makes me want to gouge my eyes out before people tell me they want to show me an alter.


Both of these scans are larger than the previous ones supplied by my artist. But it is irrelevant...I'll be scanning them all together once they're back.

Time Vault:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/scan0026.jpg

Black Lotus:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/10.jpg

All that is left is Spike on the foil Voltaic Keys and DD Tezzeret the Seekers, and my Guru duals. And my artist is correcting Celestia's mane and tail - the green isn't visible enough and he missed the pink portion.

[gtx]

haters gonna hate.

its his cards anyway. not a fan of this cartoon but the alter was done in decent fashion. nice "pony 9" solaran!

[Sloshthedark]

Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.

One thousand Vintage decks just died from internal bleeding.

[mini1337s]

Personally, the cost of beat-up Power 9 and a couple of pony alters is totally worth watching the Internet get mad :P
Not a fan of ponies, but to each his own.

[Julian23]

I've seen the future.

People will pay to get all their pony stuff "altered" back to the original look :laugh:

[Einherjer]

Id have prefered kittens but ponies are fine aswell.

[Wereodile]

Personally, the cost of beat-up Power 9 and a couple of pony alters is totally worth watching the Internet get mad :P
Not a fan of ponies, but to each his own.

I agree to each his own, let's all remember this is a game and we are here to have fun #nottryingtostartaflamewar

[Koby]

Just to be clear, these belong in the Alters thread, not the Pimp thread. We will judge your unpopular Brony alters to the max here. Have a nice day!

[Solaran_X]

Hope you have an extra Time Walk if you plan to play in it, the art's clearly not recognizable on that one. The Time Vault's iffy too. (The MTR just got changed, they would have been fine before that.)

EDIT: New MTR states:
Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.
Actually, the cards are still recognizable easily. The Time Walk still has the stonehenge and hill to show what it is - it's only missing the clock faced skeleton men. And the Time Vault still has the actual vault, it's merely missing the two robed figures.

And how recent is the new MTR? Out of curiousity, I ran my Time Walk and Timetwister by the level 5 at Indianapolis earlier this month, and they were okay by him for use (not that any Vintage side events fired).


Just to be clear, these belong in the Alters thread, not the Pimp thread. We will judge your unpopular Brony alters to the max here. Have a nice day!
Bring it son!

And so far, the criticisms I've received for using Ponies are far, far, far outweighed by the compliments I've gotten - both online and in person.

Anyways...Ponies are pretty much done. There will be no more blasphemy from me with this theme - now I need to track down 36 more Unlimited duals for Guru alters.

[wcm8]

The cards' art is still recognizable, I don't know why anyone would not think so. The only thing that would arguably make them illegal for sanctioned play is the faux black-bordering, but I can't really see any judges/players at a tournament actually having a problem with that.

The way I see it, this is a card game and people can do whatever the hell they want to their cards. Especially if they aren't *true* collector's pieces, like mint Beta or Summer Magic, or some sort of ridiculously rare test-print run foil.

To make a guitar comparison, it's not like he's taking an original '59 Gibson Les Paul and butchering it with a Floyd Rose tremolo. THAT would be a travesty. Pony Unlimited power though? That's more akin to taking an Epiphone reissue and modding the pickups. To each their own.

[Zakman86]

Actually, the cards are still recognizable easily. The Time Walk still has the stonehenge and hill to show what it is - it's only missing the clock faced skeleton men. And the Time Vault still has the actual vault, it's merely missing the two robed figures.

And how recent is the new MTR? Out of curiousity, I ran my Time Walk and Timetwister by the level 5 at Indianapolis earlier this month, and they were okay by him for use (not that any Vintage side events fired).


Effective Monday, was released this last Sunday.

The Clock-faced skeleton men are a pretty important part of the picture for Time Walk; you basically only have the background and it's difficult to tell at a glance. Missing half the art on Time Vault is a thing too. I'd be hard-pressed to allow either at this point.

Since most Vintage events aren't sanctioned it generally won't matter, but I recommend having extra copies at GenCon if at all possible.

[wcm8]

I'd be hard-pressed to allow either at this point.

Are you even a judge?

Pretty sure 99.9% of judges would have no issue with these alters if he ran them by them prior to the tournament starting, and the .1% who does is just being a dick.

[Zakman86]

Are you even a judge?

Pretty sure 99.9% of judges would have no issue with these alters if he ran them by them prior to the tournament starting, and the .1% who does is just being a dick.

Spoken like someone who obviously hasn't read the MTR. Just saying.

[sdematt]

Not only is he a judge, he's also giving the announcement/talk on what's allowed and what isn't.

@ Solaran

The alters are very cute, if that's the right word. They are definitely of good quality, and I appreciate that you used beat UNL power instead of NM Alpha power to do so. I think whoever you play is going to have a fun time with those!

Even though they may be dicey in terms of allow-ability, it still takes some guts to do alters on expensive cards like that. I feel like this is very much another alter that came out a while ago. If you like it, rock on. If you don't, too bad sort of deal.

But, I do agree with the fact these do belong more in the Altered Art thread, but it's understandable you'd want to show them off :)
--


On another note, 4x Korean Dread of Night, 2x Korean Warmth, 1 Beta Howling Mine, 4x Russian Knight of the Reliquary, 4x Russian Delver, 4x Russian Ponder, 1x Russian Tar Pit, and 1x Russian Maelstrom Pulse are inbound :)

-Matt

[Zakman86]

As a side note, pre-MTR Change, every single one of those alters, I would have been fine with; I'm still fine with the Lotus and the Moxen, the other ones, YMMV depending on the judge.

[wcm8]

Spoken like someone who obviously hasn't read the MTR. Just saying.

Let's see...

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=judge/article/20090414a

"Cards used in a tournament may not have writing on their faces other than signatures or artistic modifications. Modifications may not obscure the artwork so as to make the card unrecognizable. If modifications to a card are deemed by the Head Judge to constitute outside notes or unsporting conduct, the player using such cards will be subject to the appropriate provisions of the DCI Penalty Guidelines."

"The Head Judge is the final authority regarding card interpretations. See the DCI Floor Rules for the appropriate game for more detailed rules regarding how cards should be interpreted. If the Head Judge determines that a player is using non-English–language cards and/or misprints to create an advantage by using misleading text or artwork, that player will be subject to the appropriate provisions of the DCI Penalty Guidelines."

"This shows that the importance of the alteration isn't the sole criterion to determine whether a card is tournament-suitable or not. The characteristics of the original should also be taken into account: Is it a permanent, sorcery, or instant? If it's a permanent, how does it affect the game state? Is it a land or an obscure card? Once again, how will that affect the game state?"

And from the most recent MTR, effective April 2, 2012: (http://www.wizards.com/ContentResources/Wizards/WPN/Main/Documents/Magic_The_Gathering_Tournament_Rules_PDF2.pdf)

Authorized Cards
Players may use any Authorized Game Cards from Magic: The Gathering expansions, core sets, special sets, supplements, and promotional printings. Authorized Game Cards are cards that, unaltered, meet the following conditions:
• The card is genuine and published by Wizards of the Coast
• The card has a standard Magic back or is a double-faced card.
• The card does not have squared corners.
• The card has black or white borders.
• The card is not a token card.
• The card is not damaged or modified in a way that might make it marked.
• The card is otherwise legal for the tournament as defined by the format.
• The card is a proxy issued by the judge of a tournament (see section 3.4 for rules about proxies).

Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.

The Head Judge is the final authority on acceptable cards for a tournament.

I do not see ANYTHING indicating that his modifications would not be tournament legal, especially after taking into account that these will be double-sleeved in perfect fits and KMC mattes.

[CorpT]

Did you guys see the Snoopy Tarmogoyf alters? It was pretty obvious what those were and those were specifically disallowed on day 2 of Indy because they were not "recognizable". I don't know that these ponies are more or less recognizable, but that is where the bar is set.

[Zakman86]

I do not see ANYTHING indicating that his modifications would not be tournament legal, especially after taking into account that these will be double-sleeved in perfect fits and KMC mattes.

Let's actually compare the cards.

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/un/84.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/timewalkrdash.jpg

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/un/275.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/scan0026.jpg

Time Walk: The vast majority of the art is missing. The only pieces still remaining are a small piece of the walkway, a small piece of the stones, and a bit of the background.

Time Vault: The entire right half of the card has been changed.

I wouldn't consider it a stretch to call the card art on either one unrecognizable.

[jamesh]

so they're recognizable as what other cards -that's the issue with alteration most often, confusion
there's no confusion here, the card names are clear and they resemble no other cards
you might think the art sucks, but it's not like they're going to be mistaken as dwarven pony or mesa pegasus

[Zakman86]

so they're recognizable as what other cards -that's the issue with alteration most often, confusion
there's no confusion here, the card names are clear and they resemble no other cards
you might think the art sucks, but it's not like they're going to be mistaken as dwarven pony or mesa pegasus

OK, so what if a player doesn't speak English and is playing Vintage based on the art? It has nothing to do with whether I like the art or not.

Not every Magic player speaks English, Coincidentally, some of these non-English-speaking players play Vintage, as well. Players like this are generally playing off the art; when a player sees that Time Walk, they may not know what the card is.

[CorpT]

so they're recognizable as what other cards -that's the issue with alteration most often, confusion
there's no confusion here, the card names are clear and they resemble no other cards
you might think the art sucks, but it's not like they're going to be mistaken as dwarven pony or mesa pegasus

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-72l30Z8rsqI/T1erOvvDwGI/AAAAAAAABKA/jiEMZw4ZU_E/s1600/snoopies.jpg

Those were not allowed. Card names were clear.

[Solaran_X]

Let's actually compare the cards.

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/un/84.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/timewalkrdash.jpg

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/un/275.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Solaran_X/Mox%20Sapphire%20Alteration/scan0026.jpg

Time Walk: The vast majority of the art is missing. The only pieces still remaining are a small piece of the walkway, a small piece of the stones, and a bit of the background.

Time Vault: The entire right half of the card has been changed.

I wouldn't consider it a stretch to call the card art on either one unrecognizable.
For Time Walk, almost the entire walkway, most of the standing guide stones, and 3/4s of the stone henge are visible. Not to mention that card name, casting cost, and text are untouched. A portion of "Sorcery" is blocked by Rainbow Dash's front leg. I don't believe there is any way to confuse it with any other card printed.

For Time Vault, one of the two main foci for the art is untouched - the actual Vault itself. Also, the card name, casting cost, card type, and text are untouched. As with Time Walk, I don't think there is another card in the game you could confuse this with.

Any regardless of anything we say, it's up to the head judge at sanctioned events where I would be playing as to their legality. And since I already had one level 5 rule that my Time Walk and Timetwister would be legitimate for Vintage side events at GP: Indianapolis and the MTR did not change drastically...I feel like the level 5 holds more sway than you (a level 2) in these matters.

And if anything, I would have expected you to take issue with the Lotus because Celestia's head is partially blocking the name of the card and you can barely see "Mono Artifact" behind her legs.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-72l30Z8rsqI/T1erOvvDwGI/AAAAAAAABKA/jiEMZw4ZU_E/s1600/snoopies.jpg

Those were not allowed. Card names were clear.
But the entire art was replaced. No elements of the original art remain on the card.

[Einherjer]

If you dont know what the card is you can call a judge cant you? And wouldnt it be better to open a new thread for this altering-discussion?

Greetings

[wcm8]

So when you see a Brainstorm altered to have [random super-hero] instead of the original art's wizard, is that suddenly unrecognizable? Or when Terese Nielson modifes the barbarian in Force of Will to be [random character], is that somehow now unrecognizable?

The background portions of the art in these cards is just as much a part of the 'recognizability' as the foreground characters. Enough of the cards' rules text, names, and casting costs are untouched that I can't see ANYONE (aside from you) that isn't completely new to the game mistaking these cards for something else. Especially in Vintage.

Sounds to me like you just have some sort of axe to grind.

[Solaran_X]

OK, so what if a player doesn't speak English and is playing Vintage based on the art? It has nothing to do with whether I like the art or not.

Not every Magic player speaks English, Coincidentally, some of these non-English-speaking players play Vintage, as well. Players like this are generally playing off the art; when a player sees that Time Walk, they may not know what the card is.
Are you seriously implying that a Vintage player would not be able to tell what Time Walk or Time Vault are because of my modifications?

You do realize that America is the only nation where proxies are commonly used in Vintage - pretty much every other country where Vintage is played are typically sanctioned, and with fully Powered decks. I'm pretty sure any of them would see right past the alterations and see the card for what it is - especially since they are very likely playing the same card themselves.

[Zakman86]

So when you see a Brainstorm altered to have [random super-hero] instead of the original art's wizard, is that suddenly unrecognizable? Or when Terese Nielson modifes the barbarian in Force of Will to be [random character], is that somehow now unrecognizable?

The background portions of the art in these cards is just as much a part of the 'recognizability' as the foreground characters. Enough of the cards' rules text, names, and casting costs are untouched that I can't see ANYONE (aside from you) that isn't completely new to the game mistaking these cards for something else. Especially in Vintage.

Sounds to me like you just have some sort of axe to grind.

Both of those are now illegal under the new MTR. Keep trying. (Those also fall under the same thing as the Snoopy Tarmogoyfs that *shock* WEREN'T ALLOWED AT GP INDY. Jason Ford was able to play them Day 1 because Riccardo didn't know about them.)

I don't have an axe to grind against alters in general; in fact, I'm very pro-alter. However, the rules are the rules.

(The Lotus IS extremely borderline, by the way, I missed that 90% of the name was blocked. No-no by MTR Standards.)

[Solaran_X]

Both of those are now illegal under the new MTR. Keep trying. (Those also fall under the same thing as the Snoopy Tarmogoyfs that *shock* WEREN'T ALLOWED AT GP INDY. Jason Ford was able to play them Day 1 because Riccardo didn't know about them.)

I don't have an axe to grind against alters in general; in fact, I'm very pro-alter. However, the rules are the rules.

(The Lotus IS extremely borderline, by the way, I missed that 90% of the name was blocked. No-no by MTR Standards.)
Then according to the "new" MTR (which doesn't seem much different in wording to me), then isn't pretty much ANY alteration illegal now since they all change the artwork to one degree or another?

[Zakman86]

Then according to the "new" MTR (which doesn't seem much different in wording to me), then isn't pretty much ANY alteration illegal now since they all change the artwork to one degree or another?

Extensions are fine as long as they don't get rid of the name and casting cost (on a creature, a lot of judges will likely want the power/toughness; on a Planeswalker, the Starting Loyalty/Loyalty Ability boxes are good to have too).

Something like
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/SCAN0094.jpg

is perfectly fine.

[Octopusman]

Actually, getting rid of the borders is iffy as already outlined.

The tarmogoyf images were completely replaced, not simply modified.

The ponies still have more than enough of the art to be recognizable imo and I would allow them if I were judge.

Rock on.

[DownSyndromeKarl]

IMO something is Unrecognizable if it could possibly be mistaken for something else. What do the Walk/Vault look like that would make them anything but what they are? Also, if run by me before the event, I'd allow them. If the opponent didn't recognize them, he can always call a judge.
Look at all the promo/alternate art cards. I had a someone play a Graveborn Cabal Therapy against me and I had no idea what it was(Blonde moment, I didn't read the name of the card) i read the text on the card three times before I was like; "...that's just like Cabal Therapy." My opp; "It IS Cabal Therapy." What if I didn't speak English? What if he had the alternate art altered, even slightly? I'd call a judge, where's the difference?

[bfeingersh]

The whole background is visible on the Vault and Walk. The only thing that makes the Snoopy Goyfs recognizable as Goyfs is the mana cost and Future Sight card frame, all of the art has been replaced. I don't see how there's any confusion with the pony power. The only thing that's been changed are the characters in the foreground, which are only a small portion (<40%) of the frame.

I know you guys don't like the ponies, I don't either, but it's crazy to say the original art is completely unrecognizable.

[wcm8]

The tarmogoyf images were completely replaced, not simply modified.

The ponies still have more than enough of the art to be recognizable imo and I would allow them if I were judge.

This. The background is as much a part of the image as the foreground, especially on iconic art like the Time Walk/Vault in question.

And seriously dude? You would find this to be 'confusing' or misleading?

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii26/wcm8/74a48ee54a456afb2a82eedb6d62236b.jpg

Here's another question for you. Do you recognize what this is supposed to be?

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii26/wcm8/homer-scream.jpg

Under your Draconian interpretation of the MTR, this would not be allowed if Edvard Munch's painting were some card's art. :really:

The composition of the art, including the background, lightning, posing of the character, style, etc... All of these are part of identifying a card's art, and if a -reasonable- person can identify a card via a quick glance and it fits within the rest of the MTR rules it should be legal. Quite simply, you are being unreasonable.

[nedleeds]

I do especially love the art and flavor text on the Tempest ritual. Confusingly, I don't think it's intended to be Volrath, though. This is the look I'm familiar with:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/41/Vol.JPG

Then who the hell has been providing me with BBB for B all these years ?!?!?!?!

SOMEBODY TELL ME ! :wink:

[Solaran_X]

Then who the hell has been providing me with BBB for B all these years ?!?!?!?!

SOMEBODY TELL ME ! :wink:
The Great Lord of the Dark, clearly. Volrath is a wannabe compared to Shai'tan.

[nedleeds]

OK, so what if a player doesn't speak English and is playing Vintage based on the art? It has nothing to do with whether I like the art or not.

Not every Magic player speaks English, Coincidentally, some of these non-English-speaking players play Vintage, as well. Players like this are generally playing off the art; when a player sees that Time Walk, they may not know what the card is.

What if he doesn't recognize some hideous obscure judge foil (sneak attack, DCI legends incinerate by JOCK)? He should ask a judge. The card name, the cost, the color, the text are clear. Players (especially in Vintage) should know what cards do.

[nedleeds]

I feel a little dirty that I have now learned the names of some of these ponies simply by reading and following this thread.

[DownSyndromeKarl]

I feel a little dirty that I have now learned the names of some of these ponies simply by reading and following this thread.

Haha, where's the "Like" button?

[Leto]

Dunno what is so difficult to understand at "The Judge is the final instance...". I play altered Cards in my Legacydeck and have to ask the Headjudge too. When he is Fine with them my opponents can whine all Day about my unrecognizable cards. If he is not, I Play with unaltered copies, but never happened to me

[thefringthing]

Summary:

These cards are in the wrong thread.
Some of them violate the MTR's guidelines for acceptable alters.
Ponies are stupid; altering Power this way is an abomination.
You are butthurt because you might not get to play your stupid pony Power at Vintage Champs.

[Julian23]

Dunno what is so difficult to understand at "The Judge is the final instance..."

The judges are the final instance. But the law their decisions are based on has recently changed.

[mini1337s]

Like I said before, and I'll say it again, paying for beat power and pony alters is well worth it, simply for the butt-frustration it causes in the MTG community :)

[Sloshthedark]

ban obscure judge rewards and stupid foil DD alternate arts/full arts then, absolutely unrecognizable and confusing both in art style and frame

I see how full manga japanese deck is not good idea or merging card arts together misleading... but besides that at certain level (competitive play) a player has to recognize (key) cards in the format (be able to read for start)

personally I have no problem with those SnoopyGoyf being only altered cards in the deck; typical goyf features - frame, P/T is the same, can you meet someone who hasn't seen a goyf day 2?

...and what about those idiotic long wooden tables in GP feat match areas, you won't recognize player tapping pokemons on the other side of the canyon

[Julian23]

...and what about those idiotic long wooden tables in GP feat match areas, you won't recognize player tapping pokemons on the other side of the canyon

Never has someone ever spoken truer words :cry:

[SmallFish]

Can we get back to seeing cool cards?

[sdematt]

I've got a package of Korean and Russian stuff coming in the mail :)

-Matt

[coraz86]

I've got a package of Korean and Russian stuff coming in the mail :)

-Matt

Sweet. Although (and it's okay if you PM instead) I'm curious why you went with Russian Delvers instead of Korean, given that both are available.

On topic, some sexy stuff I picked up recently;

http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff384/coraz86/001-1.jpg

All of it except the Jitte is foil. (I know the scan is sketchy, but please take my word for it.)

[sdematt]

I actually made a pimp flowchart, but now I can't find it. I'll redraw it and post it.

-Matt

[nedleeds]

German Vampires are pretty boss. It amazes me how bad some of the Vampire cards are ... they aren't played at all in anything competitive, yet they retain value. This guy is the poster child.

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/m10/118.jpg

Since we're in a lull waiting for sdematts flowchart ... who can post the most valuable or interesting Vampire Nocturnus?

[bfeingersh]

No Vampires here, but I'll try to steer this thread back on course:

http://i.imgur.com/xUsOc.jpg

I don't know why my phone camera blurs out the bottom left of the frame. I cleaned the lens and it didn't help :/

[nedleeds]

Those Elders are boss. I didn't know they did the extended arts in Chinese. Those aren't foil right ? (picture is a little shady).

[bfeingersh]

Those Elders are boss. I didn't know they did the extended arts in Chinese. Those aren't foil right ? (picture is a little shady).

They are! And yeah, I didn't know they were available in chinese until I found some in a guy's binder. I love the art so I snapped them up, but now I need to figure out a deck to play them in...

http://i.imgur.com/7ZxOn.jpg

[nedleeds]

They are! And yeah, I didn't know they were available in chinese until I found some in a guy's binder. I love the art so I snapped them up, but now I need to figure out a deck to play them in...

http://i.imgur.com/7ZxOn.jpg

Clearly something with 4 x Foil Sakura-Tribe Elders, 4 x Foil Korean Cultivates ... 4 x Gaea's Touch ... 18 Guru Forests and then some weapons for that guy :)

[hukstor]

http://i.imgur.com/OZjXh.jpg
These are a few of the guys and gals I played in my Maverick list at the SCG Baltimore Legacy open this past weekend. I do like Chinese more than japanese or english, so the Retainers is in Chinese.


Also got a pretty nice package when I got home:
http://i.imgur.com/346Bg.jpg

Here's an old project that I'm getting rid of... thought I might as well share before it's gone:
http://i.imgur.com/Q4wWL.jpg

[Koby]

/thread.

In Pimp Thread, Russian Foil You!

[bfeingersh]

I knew it wouldn't be long before someone would come and 1000-up me :eek:

[Jonathan Alexander]

Jeez. That's insane.

[mini1337s]

Very nice Maverick deck. Russian foil is soooo sick!
Puts mine to shame :P

I've considered making a modern Russian Rock deck, and seeing those sexy knights makes me want to even more

[nedleeds]

If you like foil. If you like Russian. You probably need to change your underwear.

[blackberrybold]

You got all russian Foils from 1 Guy/Shop?
Looking for russian Foil Liliana and Foil Elesh Norn but didnt foil any of those :(

[rxavage]

If you like foil. If you like Russian. You probably need to change your underwear.

I like russian foils, but I go commando.


I'm not sure if this counts as pimp but a friend just finished altering my jitte http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558969_320715921327961_313140038752216_892862_1160963685_n.jpg

[(nameless one)]

I like russian foils, but I go commando.


I'm not sure if this counts as pimp but a friend just finished altering my jitte http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558969_320715921327961_313140038752216_892862_1160963685_n.jpg

Wrong thread. You might want (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?10651-The-Awesome-Altered-Card-Art-Thread) to check this instead.

[sdematt]

Adam, all I have to say is /jizz. So how many month's salary did that cost you? Did you wife file the divorce papers already? :tongue:

-Matt

[dernestor86]

that´s really some nice russian hotness you got here!
one of the best posts here in this thread!

[hukstor]

I actually don't spend any of my salary on magic. I keep a separate bank account for magic purposes, and it's all just from trading, buying/selling, and a little initial capital from when I first started playing.

[sdematt]

Smart move. I should do that. Or not. For reason, watching the ladies get infuriated when you can't take them out because you spent all your money on Beta duals? The tits.

-Matt

[birds of paradise2]

Adam, all I have to say is /jizz. So how many month's salary did that cost you? Did you wife file the divorce papers already? :tongue:

-Matt

Well, i'd consider magiccards to be a great investment if you got a feeling that your wife might file for a divorce. She probably doesn't know the value of the cards. So i'd say it's simular to getting a swiss bank account :cool:

[coraz86]

Well, i'd consider magiccards to be a great investment if you got a feeling that your wife might file for a divorce. She probably doesn't know the value of the cards. So i'd say it's simular to getting a swiss bank account :cool:

/thread

Bonus points for merging both colloquial meanings of "pimp," imho.

[jamesh]

foil modern pt. 1 - U/W tron
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img001-11.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img002-10.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img003-9.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img004-9.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img005-8.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img006-8.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img007-8.jpg
board
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img008-8.jpghttp://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img009-4.jpg

[bfeingersh]

While I'm not a fan of the list (UR and RG Tron are the shit, bro) I'm a huge fan of the Collonades. That art is great!

[TheElvishPiper]

The new list I am trying out :cool:

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/2012-03-30_14-25-50_649.jpg

Sorry that most of the foils didnt show up very well

[sauce]

i like it cuz it's vintage.

[jjjoness']

Modern hotness

Needs more newframe Basics and Disenchant. I'm not a huge fan of the mixed languages but otherwise very nice deck.

[blackberrybold]

Needs more newframe Basics and Disenchant. I'm not a huge fan of the mixed languages but otherwise very nice deck.

Indeed, russian, japanese, chinese, german and english foils doesnt really look that awesome mixed, especially on the Urza Lands imo :(
but i like the expedition map playset, still looking for 4 german foil of these, but impossible to find

[jjjoness']

Indeed, russian, japanese, chinese, german and english foils doesnt really look that awesome mixed, especially on the Urza Lands imo :(
but i like the expedition map playset, still looking for 4 german foil of these, but impossible to find

There's 3 on mkm right now, if you're willing to pay 7-9€ each.

[Philipp2293]

That collonade looks so sick. Sweet deck alltogether

[ninjamasta]

some nice russian crapfoils
but GARRUK is Veeery wonderful
http://cs11225.userapi.com/u6741432/151119218/x_352edc99.jpg

[atropos]

Blah @ modern. We're manly and play in a format where our duals don't Shock us. (Mostly kidding).

[Solaran_X]

Blah @ modern. We're manly and play in a format where our duals don't Shock us. (Mostly kidding).
Blah @ Legacy. We're manly and play in a format where we have reusable triple mana lands and lands that essentially draw 12 cards every time you tap them.

[Phoenix Ignition]

Blah @ modern. We're manly and play in a format where our duals don't Shock us. (Mostly kidding).

Because 90% of this thread isn't about power 9 and other only EDH/Vintage playable stuff.

Riiiiight.

[TheElvishPiper]

@Solaran_X- Reply to your post on TMD since that pimp thread got locked up...

The reason for not foiling out the Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, and Demonic Tutor is because the foil Sol Ring and Demonic Tutor are less pimp than Alpha/Beta, and the foil Mana Crypt art is terrible, to me at least.

[Dark Ritual]

Yeah, I vastly prefer alpha/beta to judge foils of the same card. Nothing can ever top an alpha demonic tutor or original mana crypt in my eyes, since alpha was printed so long ago while the demonic tutor and mana crypt foils have been printed in the last 5 years while the alpha demonic was printed almost 20 years ago. That and the old frame >>>>>>>>>>> the new frame.

[thegrinningdemon]

There have been so many Maverick lists posted recently so I thought I would post a G/W/u version.

Creatures
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MagicCollection003.jpg

Instants, Soceries, and Equipment
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MagicCollection002.jpg

Lands
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MagicCollection001.jpg

I have been buying and selling like a madman in an attempt to complete a playset of Beta duals. I am at a crossroads where anything I sell or trade will hurt. So I guess it will be a slow go from here on out. Here is my progress.
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MagicCollection004.jpg
No I did not know that the Beta Tropical Island was graded a BGS 9 and signed case to boot. I don't have the heart to crack it.

[sdematt]

You want to sell my your Beta duals... /Jedi mind trick

Very nice stuff!

-Matt

[MoxMonkey]

There have been so many Maverick lists posted recently so I thought I would post a G/W/u version.

Creatures
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MagicCollection003.jpg

Instants, Soceries, and Equipment
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MagicCollection002.jpg

Lands
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MagicCollection001.jpg

I have been buying and selling like a madman in an attempt to complete a playset of Beta duals. I am at a crossroads where anything I sell or trade will hurt. So I guess it will be a slow go from here on out. Here is my progress.
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MagicCollection004.jpg
No I did not know that the Beta Tropical Island was graded a BGS 9 and signed case to boot. I don't have the heart to crack it.

I would crack it in a heartbeat. I HATE graded cards.

[jamesh]

foil modern pt. 2 - jund
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img001-12.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img002-11.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img003-10.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img004-10.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img005-9.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img006-9.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img007-9.jpg
board
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img008-9.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img009-5.jpg

[birds of paradise2]

beautiful deck! What scanner do you use jamesh? Your decks is my favourites in this thread.

[jamesh]

Epson Perfection V33
small/lightweight scanner

[thegrinningdemon]

I would crack it in a heartbeat. I HATE graded cards.

Using that logic I would have to crack these as well...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MTG%20Graded%20Beta%20Power/MagicCollection14.jpg

I just don't think I have the heart.

[Oiolosse]

me so horny.

[MoxMonkey]

Using that logic I would have to crack these as well...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/MTG%20Graded%20Beta%20Power/MagicCollection14.jpg

I just don't think I have the heart.

Well I'll put it this way. I'm also a sports card collector and I open graded for that as well. It just puts an unnecessary value on cards.

[aahz]

Let me just say that, as a Magic enthusiast, you haven't lived until you've shuffled up real Alpha/Beta power. There is no feeling like it.

[Olesch]

Well I'll put it this way. I'm also a sports card collector and I open graded for that as well. It just puts an unnecessary value on cards.

Well, I actually broke all my Beta P9 and Dual PSA/BGS 9 cards. I don't play with them but I hate graded cards and it is mostly the only way to get Mint+ genuine cards :)

[thegrinningdemon]

Well, I actually broke all my Beta P9 and Dual PSA/BGS 9 cards. I don't play with them but I hate graded cards and it is mostly the only way to get Mint+ genuine cards :)

I broke 4 PSA 8 cases, but PSA 9 is just a different story all together. Because the cards are graded at PSA/BGS 9 they have a premium value. I don't think I play that much vintage to support the value lost.

[Olesch]

I broke 4 PSA 8 cases, but PSA 9 is just a different story all together. Because the cards are graded at PSA/BGS 9 they have a premium value. I don't think I play that much vintage to support the value lost.

I collect I don't play but I still don't want them in those ugly cases :)

Almost all minty beta power/duals today are graded due to people want to earn money.

It is good that they are graded due to authenticity and condition but the rest is overated according to me!

[sdematt]

I agree. Grading just seems like a cash grab to drive up the price. If it's Minty, you can tell, you don't need a grader.

-Matt

[Tha Gunslinga]

Fake cards are better than graded cards, because at least you can play with fake cards. I only own 5 graded cards. 4 random PSA-8 cards that I use as coasters, and a PSA-6 crimped Beta Demonic Tutor that I picked up a while back.

[Basaka]

Just bought a bunch of Euro Venice Islands for my High tide (for the theme). The problem is finding 3 Candelabras...

Also picked up the last 7th foil City of Brass to finish foiling my TES. Might put some pics up during Easter break

[Solaran_X]

Got my last alters back today, so my Vintage deck is done. 15 Unlimited cards altered into black borders that were never printed as foils. 8 original black border cards that were never printed as foils. 52 foils.

Now I need a new project to work on - should I go for a fully pimped Lands or TES deck for Legacy? I want a deck that can stay competitive with practice, but doesn't require constant updating (so I can devote my time to Vintage again) and can be a dark horse in most big events.

[Purgatory]

Now I need a new project to work on - should I go for a fully pimped Lands or TES deck for Legacy? I want a deck that can stay competitive with practice, but doesn't require constant updating (so I can devote my time to Vintage again) and can be a dark horse in most big events.

In a random metagame, at a random point in time, I'd rather play TES than Lands, because the latter has such an awful combo matchup. Learn to play conservatively through hate with TES, and you'll do well.

[nedleeds]

Fake cards are better than graded cards, because at least you can play with fake cards. I only own 5 graded cards. 4 random PSA-8 cards that I use as coasters, and a PSA-6 crimped Beta Demonic Tutor that I picked up a while back.

Or you could get all 75 graded ... and ... uh pile shuffle.

[Picc]

Or you could get all 75 graded ... and ... uh pile shuffle.

Even better then shuffling toploaders, I cant even imagine how one would go about trying to shuffle hard cases.

[Solaran_X]

Or you could get all 75 graded ... and ... uh pile shuffle.
I would pay GOOD money to see someone at a Legacy GP with a Battle of the Wits deck...all in graded PSA cases.

[Dia_Bot]

I would pay GOOD money to see someone at a Legacy GP with a Battle of the Wits deck...all in graded PSA cases.

Better hope they don't play to many fetchlands then. It would be a bitch to play against (but totaly awsome at the same time) :)

[bfeingersh]

Even better then shuffling toploaders, I cant even imagine how one would go about trying to shuffle hard cases.

I saw a cube on salvation a while back that was foiled out with GURU lands for basics. 80+ of each, and the whole cube was in toploaders. The guy was like "yeah it takes a while to get used to shuffling, but it's possible"

[Solaran_X]

I saw a cube on salvation a while back that was foiled out with GURU lands for basics. 80+ of each, and the whole cube was in toploaders. The guy was like "yeah it takes a while to get used to shuffling, but it's possible"
Back before GP: Chicago in 2009, I played my Aggro-Loam list in top loaders just to see what it was like.

It was a nightmare...especially considering how much that deck shuffled. I think I got through two rounds with top loaders before I took it out of them.

[socialite]

I agree. Grading just seems like a cash grab to drive up the price. If it's Minty, you can tell, you don't need a grader.

-Matt

Actually most people blow at grading; a lot of the "Mint" stuff posted here is far from.

BGS > PSA

PSA has gone down hill quite a bit and averages condition wise around SCG/other top retailers.

Going BGS is a great way to store and price out set collections. Any other purpose is rather futile. I've cracked quite a few things out of slabs mainly because I treat my cards well and after significant play time are still in fantastic condition.

[Solaran_X]

Actually most people blow at grading; a lot of the "Mint" stuff posted here is far from.

BGS > PSA

PSA has gone down hill quite a bit and averages condition wise around SCG/other top retailers.

Going BGS is a great way to store and price out set collections. Any other purpose is rather futile. I've cracked quite a few things out of slabs mainly because I treat my cards well and after significant play time are still in fantastic condition.
One of the guys local to me raged at my Power alterations (back when the Pearl was the only one I had altered - it was the test run for my artist), claiming I was forever taking that Power out of circulation.

I responded by saying the Power was already out of circulation because I don't intend to sell out of Vintage again. And I then cited all the slabbed Power cards that are REALLY out of circulation because they are encased in a 1/4" of hermetically sealed plastic.

Worst part is...he only plays Standard. >.< WTF does he care about Vintage cards anyways?!

[cuthbertthecat]

Now I need a new project to work on - should I go for a fully pimped Lands or TES deck for Legacy? I want a deck that can stay competitive with practice, but doesn't require constant updating (so I can devote my time to Vintage again) and can be a dark horse in most big events.

This depends. As a man who has both of these decks foiled out, I can tell you that TES is relatively easy to pimp, while lands is a ridiculous pain in the ass. For example, the most expensive card to foil in TES is polluted delta if it's your fetch of choice, then brainstorm, both of which are easy enough to find. In lands, it's a tie between maze of ith and rishadan port, their prices tend to fluctuate. Currently, there is one foil maze of ith on ebay at 145, and none on starcity, with english rishadan ports being 175 on the one english listing on ebay, with played ones being 125 on starcity (they are out of stock on NM).

There is also the issue of alters. If you're getting the unfoilables altered into your preferred method of ponies, what better card to alter than lion's eye diamond? That chick could be petting the fuck outta some pony.

[Solaran_X]

This depends. As a man who has both of these decks foiled out, I can tell you that TES is relatively easy to pimp, while lands is a ridiculous pain in the ass. For example, the most expensive card to foil in TES is polluted delta if it's your fetch of choice, then brainstorm, both of which are easy enough to find. In lands, it's a tie between maze of ith and rishadan port, their prices tend to fluctuate. Currently, there is one foil maze of ith on ebay at 145, and none on starcity, with english rishadan ports being 175 on the one english listing on ebay, with played ones being 125 on starcity (they are out of stock on NM).

There is also the issue of alters. If you're getting the unfoilables altered into your preferred method of ponies, what better card to alter than lion's eye diamond? That chick could be petting the fuck outta some pony.
Nah...the Ponies was just a Power/Time Vault thing. And eventually, Voltaic Keys and Tezzeret the Seekers. And I mainly got them altered because they were white bordered Unlimited - Beta Power and duals are ridiculous in price, even for me.

I will probably pimp both decks and make a metagame call on site. If I expect a lot of control, I'll run Lands since TES is combo and combo gets rolled by control (usually). If I expect a lot of combo, I'll run TES since Lands gets rolled by combo (usually). And from my understanding, TES and Lands both roll aggro.

Either way, I have to decide which one I will pimp first.

[cuthbertthecat]

Nah...the Ponies was just a Power/Time Vault thing. And eventually, Voltaic Keys and Tezzeret the Seekers. And I mainly got them altered because they were white bordered Unlimited - Beta Power and duals are ridiculous in price, even for me.

I will probably pimp both decks and make a metagame call on site. If I expect a lot of control, I'll run Lands since TES is combo and combo gets rolled by control (usually). If I expect a lot of combo, I'll run TES since Lands gets rolled by combo (usually). And from my understanding, TES and Lands both roll aggro.

Either way, I have to decide which one I will pimp first.

Currently, I would play lands with maindeck cursed totem as the maverick matchup is pretty absurd while TES struggles a bit. Also, pimped lands looks way more badass than TES. Foil rishadan ports are the sexiest.

[nedleeds]

Currently, I would play lands with maindeck cursed totem as the maverick matchup is pretty absurd while TES struggles a bit. Also, pimped lands looks way more badass than TES. Foil rishadan ports are the sexiest.

Foil is blech. German Glacial Chasm is the real hotness in lands. As well as the mighty Zurs Sphäre.

[cuthbertthecat]

Foil is blech. German Glacial Chasm is the real hotness in lands. As well as the mighty Zurs Sphäre.

Hm, you bring a good point. If there's one thing that's badass, it's Zurs Sphäre.

[xfxf]

One of the guys local to me raged at my Power alterations (back when the Pearl was the only one I had altered - it was the test run for my artist), claiming I was forever taking that Power out of circulation.

I think you are cool as long as you don't go hunting for another set of power because your altered set is unplayable. Your ponies give me a heartache but your deck gives me inspiration to collect a nice Vintage gush deck so I guess you can take it as a compliment :)

As for the pimp Legacy deck, Bryant has the most wicked pimped TES so if you are determined, take on something else we haven't seen and showboat hehe.

[nedleeds]

Demon Stompy?

[Malacoda]

Foil is blech. German Glacial Chasm is the real hotness in lands. As well as the mighty Zurs Sphäre.


Hm, you bring a good point. If there's one thing that's badass, it's Zurs Sphäre.

Working on those. My rebuilding progress:

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/538484_10150713536723812_639118811_9423652_1588775144_n.jpg

New Tabernacle (English), English Karakas, 2 Korean Manabond, 2 Korean Mishra's Factory, 2 German EE, 1 German Top, 1 German Chalice of the Void... stuff that was in transit when I went to the GP :P

[sdematt]

Any smaller stuff we can help out with?

-Matt

[MoxMonkey]

I had 1 rule when building this deck. If it was german FBB first then it won't be foil. Otherwise it'll be foil.

This for matt since I showed him the decklist at GP tacoma:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/P4020034.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/P4020035.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/P4020038.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/P4020039.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/P4020040.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/juzam22/P4020041.jpg

[sdematt]

Holy tits, very nice, Mox :P

You should post that text you sent me :P

-Matt

[nedleeds]

Ghosts and Taxes ...

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vdwL7oR_9No/T3tlOVTQNpI/AAAAAAAAAOs/orDvgVJxGn4/s1024/IMAG0008.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yuSfkZeW4Js/T3tlSaCqQeI/AAAAAAAAAO0/LbmEXkZEhaU/s1024/IMAG0009.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-33os5Au-kWc/T3tlVmqD9kI/AAAAAAAAAO8/6QtFjSeMa48/s1024/IMAG0010.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WCmHOQLCP1g/T3tlY2YQRfI/AAAAAAAAAPE/WdDoy7tgs5M/s1024/IMAG0011.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ok5QE-KU9DY/T3tlf4typoI/AAAAAAAAAPM/NtQ4zUysE6w/s1024/IMAG0012.jpg

[nedleeds]

Sigh ... Belcher ... Honestly the German name for the belcher was the only reason I even put this pile together. Goblin-Flammenrülpser. Scheiße!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xecomvseCFo/T3tnKAxDQ1I/AAAAAAAAAPU/5A6S7_8j0Rk/s1024/IMAG0019.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Dct951_sKWA/T3tnOkecQDI/AAAAAAAAAPc/E5AQnso7RJs/s1024/IMAG0021.jpg

The horrible sideboard.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vJKQcc9lKoY/T3tnRy8QuiI/AAAAAAAAAPk/0ByQojM2I4Q/s1024/IMAG0022.jpg

Though ... dropping a deus game 2 when they've sided out their creature removal is entertaining.

[birds of paradise2]

Nice deck! The old s-chinese is really beautiful.

[azador]

I realize it's not the first, nor the coolest TES deck, but it's mine, I like it, and it's as done as it's going to be for the foreseeable future.

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p611/azador13/img010.jpg
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p611/azador13/img011.jpg
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p611/azador13/img012.jpg
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p611/azador13/img013.jpg
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p611/azador13/img014.jpg
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p611/azador13/img015.jpg
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p611/azador13/img016.jpg

And the sideboard...

http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p611/azador13/img017.jpg
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p611/azador13/img018.jpg

Cards not pictured include foil xantid swarms, echoing truth, infest, and other sideboard/maindeck options.

[James_Hetfield2]

Nice to see a D&T type deck! Working on one myself, but still far from done.

[Masti-core]

Arrgh, need one of those korean Iggys to complete my ANT.

[nedleeds]

Nice to see a D&T type deck! Working on one myself, but still far from done.

The glory of Vial on 3 with Geist and Karakas is hard to describe.

[Malacoda]

Any smaller stuff we can help out with?

-Matt

Thanks Matt, but at this point the only "cheap" things I need are a single Tormod's Crypt and a single Smokestack, which isn't even worth the shipping :P

[gtx]

Nice deck nedleeds - been trying to find an alternative deck to DnT and your choices are at my liking. Mind if you post any battle reports on this?

I'll share my own DnT. Still waiting for Thalias though...

[useL]

If anyones looking:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170819342990?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_500wt_1156

[jjflipped]

That Ghost and Taxes deck looks like a blast to play! Awesome!

Also, not really a pimp card/deck, but this was just finished by Jeff Miracola:

http://i42.tinypic.com/rrl20i.jpg

[sdematt]

That's amazing.

-Matt

[nedleeds]

Wow, that mat should be sleeved its so sweet.

[ivanpei]

Wow, amazing mat! Very detailed marker work.

[SupREME-10]

That playmat is wickedly cool.

Thanks for sharing.

[jjflipped]

Wow, that mat should be sleeved its so sweet.

Sounds dumb, but I was actually thinking about this. Do mat sleeves exist? I have to assume not.

[socialite]

Some recent mails.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7114/6902000988_b37cfbc936_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7089/7048231901_0de8632dc0_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7131/6902001030_67caa5ff3d_o.jpg

Sounds dumb, but I was actually thinking about this. Do mat sleeves exist? I have to assume not.
I bet you could find a properly sized self sealing bag/sleeve to use though I'd imagine it would require replacement after a while.

[nedleeds]

Sounds dumb, but I was actually thinking about this. Do mat sleeves exist? I have to assume not.

HAhahhahaha how about this? A giant top loader ....

http://www.ultrapro.com/images/81186.png

[sdematt]

11x14 not nearly large enough, methinks. But, good thinking!

-Matt

[nedleeds]

11x14 not nearly large enough, methinks. But, good thinking!

-Matt

Apparently they make poster sized ones ... presumably for storing valuable movie posters. 24x36.

http://client-cdn.crystalcommerce.com/photo/thegamerssanctuary/file/5d157e6a39a914c94727dfbcb453cbc5/large/Poster%20Toploader.jpg

That would be too big.

[mini1337s]

That Ghost and Taxes deck looks like a blast to play! Awesome!

Also, not really a pimp card/deck, but this was just finished by Jeff Miracola:

http://i42.tinypic.com/rrl20i.jpg

Occam is going to want that :P