[DO NOT TRY TO SELL IN HERE] Pimp Legacy Decks

[socialite]

Occam is going to want that :P

I thought about that as well lol.

[jjflipped]

Well Occam has all the other stuff that I want, so... Yeah.

I also collect beebles, but has has goddamn all of them.

[sauce]

that's a bad mamma jamma playmat, amazing detail/art.

[ImpinAintEasy]

What about laminating the playmat?

[socialite]

What about laminating the playmat?

The lamination gets all scratched up and looks like shit then he is unable to remove it from the lamination without destroying it; sounds like a boat load of fail.

[ImpinAintEasy]

The lamination gets all scratched up and looks like shit then he is unable to remove it from the lamination without destroying it; sounds like a boat load of fail.

Plexiglass it is then! Carrying it around could be a slight problem, but think of all the thieves it will deter with a giant piece of plastic sticking out of your backpack.

[nedleeds]

You should foil that playmat. Maybe crimp it also.

[Sloshthedark]

You should foil that playmat. Maybe crimp it also.

how does the original like? Maybe its misdrawn...

[thulnanth]

jjflipped,

WOW... that is the most awesome thing I've seen in these threads for a long time!!! I'm not a huge bebble fan, but that mat is fantastic - love the whole "mox messing" theme :tongue:. Jeff is a great guy and does amazing work. Thanks for sharing.

Take it easy,
Jared

[dahcmai]

Went through a friends old cards the other day, he quit during Tempest. He had a few goodies that survived the first round of selling. I scanned it next to a normal one for comparison.

This one in particular I am not sure on what they are worth. I haven't ever had one of these in my hands before, but it's obvious it's not a sun bleached card. It's just too bad it's not a hugely useful card. http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7642/soltarilanceralbino001.jpg

[Occam]

Nice playmat :smile:

A lot of nice cards recently. Hasn't been much from me at all over the last few months, but I guarantee the next time I post, there will be too much for me to feasibly contain in one post.

@Dahcmai:

That isn't an albino, more a faded card.

[door]

I left plateau to be the last card for my Drew Tucker's collection. But I was always thinking, it would be from unlimited or collector's edition, since I just needed a proof. Eventually, I made a surprise for myself :tongue:

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9647/dsc05474n.jpg

and some signed cool art to seal the collection:

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6382/dsc05479qr.jpg
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3739/dsc05480o.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/617/dsc05481n.jpg

[nedleeds]

Can't seem to win twice in 60 minutes with this pile ... but it looks cool all spread out during the match.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wBntTOWVhzs/T39FmT9fNhI/AAAAAAAAAP8/CuhkCkfBLWk/s1280/IMAG0026.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-j9BSMN7LqjU/T39FJ76aHzI/AAAAAAAAAPs/xWMt8pkRwVI/s1280/IMAG0024.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QWQKqgeJrbw/T39FiVQnvyI/AAAAAAAAAP0/nXD6_rvf8Zc/s1280/IMAG0025.jpg

Sideboard:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9WeuXIb0wG8/T39Fq7R_qXI/AAAAAAAAAQE/LbGRogNWz5s/s1024/IMAG0027%2520%25282%2529.jpg

[Jonathan Alexander]

Nice Chinese Wastelands. Do you have a full set? Took me ages to find mine.

[Viridia]

Hi, i'm relatively new to the forum (been lurking for a while ;)) and my deck isn't quite pimped out yet, but i just couldn't resist making some pictures and uploading them anyway :)

The pictures aren't of any amazing quality, as i don't actually have a proper camera and the lighting is crap, but here is my best effort anyway!

Maindeck Team Eternal DeedStill:
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/5840/img20120406223551.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2479/img20120406223605.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5278/img20120406223853.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6880/img20120406223910.jpg

And the sideboard:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4269/img20120406224120.jpg

[nedleeds]

Nice Chinese Wastelands. Do you have a full set? Took me ages to find mine.

Yes. I like Wasteland in Chinese. Korean are sweet also but for a while they were ~$90-100 and I would grind them up since I play wasteland so much. It looks like the price has gone way down. I also have a set of 4 x Japanese Wastelands that I don't really want I'd like to swap them for a 4 x Set of German ones, or swap them for a set of german Mox Diamonds. My Mox Diamonds are dog shit.

[sdematt]

Your problem for not winning in 60 minutes is because you're not winning once in 55 minutes :P

-Matt

[jamesh]

foil modern pt. 3 - affinity
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[Masti-core]

Just finished my first foil deck

http://i11.aijaa.com/b/00220/9949579.jpg (http://aijaa.com/002209949579)
http://i1.aijaa.com/b/00350/9949580.jpg (http://aijaa.com/003509949580)
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http://i2.aijaa.com/b/00702/9949633.jpg (http://aijaa.com/007029949633)

Sb

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[Jonathan Alexander]

That's some insane shit right there, nice man.

[socialite]

Lovely T1 deck, though that Tropical Island should probably be a Forest and you should pick up some Misty Rainforests.

[nedleeds]

Sweet power. Also the fact that you are bolting stuff in Vintage is awesome.

[nedleeds]

Your problem for not winning in 60 minutes is because you're not winning once in 55 minutes :P

-Matt

Very true. I went 3-1-1 this past week ... 2 wins were 1-0 and one was concession from opponent who was bored. My loss was to Counterbalance with Blood Moon :eek:

[John Cox]

Hey quick question, does anyone know how rare the 8th and Judgement test print basics lands are? Also where to look/how often they come up/would I be better off going with summer?
Thanks,
John

[bfeingersh]

Japanese/Korean foil fringe playables, and some of the rarest basic lands in the world... for the next 3 weeks :tongue:

http://i.imgur.com/KOTbj.jpg?1

[Occam]

Hey quick question, does anyone know how rare the 8th and Judgement test print basics lands are? Also where to look/how often they come up/would I be better off going with summer?
Thanks,
John

8e is a 2-3of, Jud is more common, probably slightly rarer that a summer rare, but has different art. Neither are legal for play, so that defeats the purpose, unless it's for casual play. The prices on these will have increased quite a bit together with the other misprints. As for where to look, they do not come up often at all. An island went on ebay from a friend of mine, and now resides in Europe. I own some of each (8e and Jud basics), but am not selling.

I'd just stick to guru as summer is white bordered.

[Olesch]

I left plateau to be the last card for my Drew Tucker's collection. But I was always thinking, it would be from unlimited or collector's edition, since I just needed a proof. Eventually, I made a surprise for myself :tongue:

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9647/dsc05474n.jpg

and some signed cool art to seal the collection:

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6382/dsc05479qr.jpg
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/3739/dsc05480o.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/617/dsc05481n.jpg

I am really impressed by your art :smile: very nice indeed!

[heroicraptor]

How did you get those Avacyn swamps?!

[ninjamasta]

Russian FOIL SNAPCASTERS
http://cs11285.userapi.com/u6741432/151119218/x_a0283d6f.jpg

[bfeingersh]

How did you get those Avacyn swamps?!
They gave some out at the PAX east magic preview panel yesterday

[sauce]

Russian FOIL SNAPCASTERS
http://cs11285.userapi.com/u6741432/151119218/x_a0283d6f.jpg

how much is one of those worth, how much is a playset worth?
:cry:

[socialite]

Not as much as you are thinking since the Dark Confidants were shilled to shit by some members here.

[sdematt]

I think the Snaps are only like $250-300 or so. iirc.

-Matt

[sauce]

I think the Snaps are only like $250-300 or so. iirc.

-Matt

each or set?

[Koby]

each or set?

You're not planning on building a deck that can be played by Communists are you?

[sdematt]

If English non-foil are 20-25 each, so 100 a set, $250 for a set of Russian foils seems like a really good deal :smile: Unfortunately, they are $250+ for each one, so about $1,000 a set. Unfortunately, all your hopes, instead of up, are now down. :frown:

-Matt

[hukstor]

They snaps are pretty easily $400+ each now. They're even going for around $400 in Russia, and I can confirm of 4 that sold for $500 each recently.

[ninjamasta]

I can confirm of 4 that sold for $500 each recently.

by Manapoint super-buper traders?) or not?)

[hukstor]

by Manapoint super-buper traders?) or not?)

No, these were outside of Russia :)

[dernestor86]

i can confirm the sale of snapcasters for 500$ each too. 250$ is just ridiculous. i would pick em up all day long for that price.

and the most recent bobs where not shilled by anybody, they were sold by me as a fixed price auction and i also received feedback for them!

just my 2cents....

[socialite]

i can confirm the sale of snapcasters for 500$ each too. 250$ is just ridiculous. i would pick em up all day long for that price.

and the most recent bobs where not shilled by anybody, they were sold by me as a fixed price auction and i also received feedback for them!

just my 2cents....

Not talking about those, talking about ones prior to those that also help set the price point. Russian premium is the same as Japanese; imaginary.

[hukstor]

Not talking about those, talking about ones prior to those that also help set the price point. Russian premium is the same as Japanese; imaginary.

Then I must have taken a ton of imaginary money to the bank from sales. If you don't like something, leave it at that instead of making blatantly ignorant statements.

[sauce]

i don't get it, is there a shortage of russian boosters in russia? why are russian foil snaps 10x price of english one?
why isn't every friggin dealer in the US just buy russian boosters instead of US ones?

[dernestor86]

the supply of russian boosters is much lesser than with english boosters.
i dont know exactly, but i guess russian magic cards are maybe accessible in a territory of 50million people among russia (i am pretty sure they arent distributed in whole russia, because it has around 150mio people), belarus and ukraine (if that country is called that in english)

and english is accessible to how many people? a billion?

[oRen]

why isn't every friggin dealer in the US just buy russian boosters instead of US ones?
Vendors are only allowed to get a very limited amount of foreign product in the US.

[nedleeds]

Vendors are only allowed to get a very limited amount of foreign product in the US.

Our local dealer who moves the most mtg in Georgia gets 2 boxes, same with korean. 2 boxes.

[socialite]

Then I must have taken a ton of imaginary money to the bank from sales. If you don't like something, leave it at that instead of making blatantly ignorant statements.

You're missing the point. I'm not saying they don't sell for a lot of money. I'm saying the reasoning behind the premium is imaginary. I'm sure you make a ton of money off of people who don't know better. For serious man the first Foil Dark Confidants to go up were shill’d to all hell and since then there's been a premium price jack just like Japanese cards. You damn well know it’s easy to get Russian boxes if you know where to look and who to ask.

It's just free markets at work, price is set - people use prior prices to determine future prices and it stays at that level for no reason other than sellers know buyers will pay said price no matter how stupid it looks on paper.

[jjflipped]

getting russian boxes in the US is really only possible through a european friend or the couple of boxes that WotC MIGHT let your premium LGS buy. Russia/USA trade relations are not so nice at the moment.

Pimping decks is all about 1 of 2 things: Rarity/Value and Asthetics. Russian is the top dog in both of these catagories for a lot of people in the USA.

$500 is not imaginary. people are buying them. Thats what they are worth. Learn some economics...

I will post some new stuff soon, just trying to get the last bits together.

[dernestor86]

and even for russians its not easy to find lets say future sight or zendikar boxes. havent seen one in a long while! or even 10th edition, that is so fucking rare you wont believe it.

[hukstor]

You're missing the point. I'm not saying they don't sell for a lot of money. I'm saying the reasoning behind the premium is imaginary. I'm sure you make a ton of money off of people who don't know better. For serious man the first Foil Dark Confidants to go up were shill’d to all hell and since then there's been a premium price jack just like Japanese cards. You damn well know it’s easy to get Russian boxes if you know where to look and who to ask.

It's just free markets at work, price is set - people use prior prices to determine future prices and it stays at that level for no reason other than sellers know buyers will pay said price no matter how stupid it looks on paper.

If it were really that easy to get Russian cards and boosters, then shouldn't the prices validate your point? If there exists an arbitrage opportunity, then someone will take advantage of it. Eventually prices will normalize as supply becomes abundant. The only reason that the prices will not converge with that of English prices is due to the low supply in this case.

What you said is only partially true in practice as several confidants were sold at the 600-800 range post the $1027 shill bidded one. The prices have slowly risen since then and actually gone over $1000 mainly due to demand and their limited quantity.

Every dealer in the US to be stupid in this case if all they have to do if get a bunch of Russian boxes yet choose not to.

[Julian23]

$500 is not imaginary. people are buying them. Thats what they are worth. Learn some economics...

Don't want to interrupt your conversation, but this whole "herp derp learn ecnonomics herp derp" stuff always angers me. What EF basically is saying that by supply/demand the price should be much lower. People still buying at 500$ thus is meant to indicate that those people are just acting irrational.

You would say that (sane) people spending money on something is always rational and will constitute the price of something at a certain moment. We challenge that assumption. Two weeks ago I bought a foil Vendilion Clique for 12€. Sure as hell, that's not the price of the card.

The market is never as close to perfect to neo-liberal bizarro world as some people think. Lack of information and transaction costs still exists, although I admit that both are at an all-time low in regards to Magic. Still, when someone buys something, don't naturally assume that that's "the price".


Discussing ecnonomics usually starts with realizing both parties are just arguing about a whole clusterfuck of different assumptions without realizing. I mean, I respect people having different very basic assumptions about ecnonomics but at least admit it, so others can say "nah, I don't buy it" and end the discussion.

[hukstor]

Don't want to interrupt your conversation, but this whole "herp derp learn ecnonomics herp derp" stuff always angers me. What EF basically is saying that by supply/demand the price should be much lower. People still buying at 500$ thus is meant to indicate that those people are just acting irrational.

You would say that (sane) people spending money on something is always rational and will constitute the price of something at a certain moment. We challenge that assumption. Two weeks ago I bought a foil Vendilion Clique for 12€. Sure as hell, that's not the price of the card.

The market is never as close to perfect to neo-liberal bizarro world as some people think. Lack of information and transaction costs still exists, although I admit that both are at an all-time low in regards to Magic. Still, when someone buys something, don't naturally assume that that's "the price".


Discussing ecnonomics usually starts with realizing both parties are just arguing about a whole clusterfuck of different assumptions without realizing. I mean, I respect people having different very basic assumptions about ecnonomics but at least admit it, so others can say "nah, I don't buy it" and end the discussion.

The problem with your example is that you're trying to use an outlier to justify your reasoning, along with the fact that you're using a seller as opposed to a buyer in your example. Now I cannot say whether your seller was acting rationally or not since I don't have any information on if he sold it for that price just to be nice or if he was missing some information on the value of the foil Clique; however what one person's willingness to sell is cannot be used to determine the market price. You are using what one person sold something to argue against multiple people's willingness to pay.

The market for Russian foils is rather obviously structured like that of oligopolistic competition. Whenever a seller discovers a buyer's willingness to pay, he can price discriminate and charge exactly what the buyer values the item due to the limited supply. If the supply is abundant like EF suggests, then buyers would look elsewhere for better prices. The fact that multiple people are buying at a price of $500 gives the conclusion that supply is not as plentiful as EF would have you believe. It has nothing to do with whether or not these individuals are rational or not by your definition of rationality as long as they are consistent within their own actions. You may not think buying this particular card at $500 is rational, but if their goal is to own this card and the value they place on it is $500 or higher then they are acting perfectly rational.

[guifig]

Pimp cards are the a great example of a Veblen Good: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good

tl;dr - Higher prices represent higher status, thus demand increases as prices get higher. The more expensive, the more demand.

[Koby]

The problem with your example is that you're trying to use an outlier to justify your reasoning, along with the fact that you're using a seller as opposed to a buyer in your example. Now I cannot say whether your seller was acting rationally or not since I don't have any information on if he sold it for that price just to be nice or if he was missing some information on the value of the foil Clique; however what one person's willingness to sell is cannot be used to determine the market price. You are using what one person sold something to argue against multiple people's willingness to pay.

The market for Russian foils is rather obviously structured like that of oligopolistic competition. Whenever a seller discovers a buyer's willingness to pay, he can price discriminate and charge exactly what the buyer values the item due to the limited supply. If the supply is abundant like EF suggests, then buyers would look elsewhere for better prices. The fact that multiple people are buying at a price of $500 gives the conclusion that supply is not as plentiful as EF would have you believe. It has nothing to do with whether or not these individuals are rational or not by your definition of rationality as long as they are consistent within their own actions. You may not think buying this particular card at $500 is rational, but if their goal is to own this card and the value they place on it is $500 or higher then they are acting perfectly rational.

This is exactly the situation in the USA with regards to FBB dual lands from Europe. The supply is bottle necked, and the sellers can charge whatever they can milk out of interested parties.

[sdematt]

Sounds like Europeans trying to fuck over Americans. Sadpanda.

Sellers are charging what they think people will pay, no matter how outrageous. As soon as a few "desperate" people cave and pay, that becomes the new price, since there's "buyers" at that price, even though that may not actually be what the majority of the people value it at, is the main problem.

Suffice to say, a "rich" person could come along and buy a playset of Russian Foil Dark Confidants for $10,000. Guess how much a set costs now? $10,000. Ludicrous? Yes. But, the mentality of "if there's one, there's another" holds true in so many cases, unfortunately, even if you're manipulating the market on purpose.

-Matt

[Julian23]

I don't actually know which one of you is actually right when it comes to the challenge in getting hold of boosters/boxes from Russia; I see your point about that.

However,


You may not think buying this particular card at $500 is rational, but if their goal is to own this card and the value they place on it is $500 or higher then they are acting perfectly rational.

this leads me to believe, that if anything someone (sane) does is considered rational, nothing is rational. Meaning, that there's no scientific value in the term itself.

[hukstor]

I don't actually know which one of you is actually right when it comes to the challenge in getting hold of boosters/boxes from Russia; I see your point about that.

However,



this leads me to believe, that if anything someone (sane) does is considered rational, nothing is rational. Meaning, that there's no scientific value in the term itself.

I think you are confusing the idea of being rational with the idea of having the same objective. If an individual has a goal and systematically tries the best he can to accomplish this goal, then he can be considered rational. We can have different objectives as people and have different rationale in acheiving these objectives, but that doesn't mean we're all irrational just because we have different goals in life.

[Koby]

I think you are confusing the idea of being rational with the idea of having the same objective. If an individual has a goal and systematically tries the best he can to accomplish this goal, then he can be considered rational. We can have different objectives as people and have different rationale in acheiving these objectives, but that doesn't mean we're all irrational just because we have different goals in life.

Also, spending $500 on shiny paper might seem irrational to one individual while it could be completely rational to another. The idea that $500 for one card is too much is relative to their discretionary budget.

[Julian23]

If an individual has a goal and systematically tries the best he can to accomplish this goal, then he can be considered rational.

Everybody does that. By the logic of the homo economicus, everybody's got his own utility function that he's acting to accordingly.

It's almost funny, when you look at it. When someone is lazy and doesn't do a lot to achieve a certain goal, neo-liberal economists would just argue, that he just doesn't want it enough. That his utility function rewards "lying on the couch" more than it does for goal xyz, relative to the cost of his actions. While the simplicity of neo-liberal theories is appealing, I've always been challenging for being to narrow and abstract.


We can have different objectives as people and have different rationale in acheiving these objectives, but that doesn't mean we're all irrational just because we have different goals in life.

As I said, when everything we do is rational, then what's the point in even bothering about the whole concept/term. I mean, rationality is defined by the existence of irrationality. If there's no such thing, the concept becomes obsolete.

[Tha Gunslinga]

Sounds like Europeans trying to fuck over Americans. Sadpanda.

Sellers are charging what they think people will pay, no matter how outrageous. As soon as a few "desperate" people cave and pay, that becomes the new price, since there's "buyers" at that price, even though that may not actually be what the majority of the people value it at, is the main problem.

Suffice to say, a "rich" person could come along and buy a playset of Russian Foil Dark Confidants for $10,000. Guess how much a set costs now? $10,000. Ludicrous? Yes. But, the mentality of "if there's one, there's another" holds true in so many cases, unfortunately, even if you're manipulating the market on purpose.

-Matt

Yeah, but seriously, who fucking cares? If you think it's a bad idea to overpay for Russian foils, don't buy them. It's not like gasoline or food or electricity. You don't *need* Russian foils in any way.

[nedleeds]

Sounds like Europeans trying to fuck over Americans. Sadpanda.

Selling something for huge profits ... that's down right capitalist! That kind of thinking has no place here in ... uh wait a minute ... :confused:


Also, spending $500 on shiny paper might seem irrational to one individual while it could be completely rational to another. The idea that $500 for one card is too much is relative to their discretionary budget.

This is spot on. I take a completely different tact when buying stock than I do with buying Magic because I have arbitrary constraints on what I think 'i should spend' on Magic cards. When buying stock I am analyzing the current value with it's potential to either tank or rise. Most MTG stuff I just stumble on when I'm surfing eBay, or at Gencon.

Then there's the personal preference / aesthetics side of MTG collecting. I abhor foils, and think they look terrible which suppresses the value of most legacy stuff I'd buy. I'm also (clearly) not as thorough or completest as some of the collectors out there (not knocking them, I admire some of the really awesome collections folks have ... all signed beta sets, summer stuff, etc.).

All this talk of Russian value makes me think I should open these

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xUxr3cU_oe0/T4SseXpHPfI/AAAAAAAAAQM/Iktn9QVGW6M/s1024/IMAG0033.jpg

[sauce]

So basically, WOTC is responsible for this ridic low supply by not printing enough russian booster boxes for US dealers/US customers to acquire. I wish it was on demand/pre-order option for anyone, even if they make it a case minimum for pre-order.

Go to a website, pre-order/pre-pay WOTC or through a dealer for your case of [insert language here] booster boxes and receive them when the set releases.
That would be the dream world.

But then again, like mentioned above, the whole Veblen Good thing would cease to exist for Russian foils if they were readily available.

[nedleeds]

But then again, like mentioned above, the whole Veblen Good thing would cease to exist for Russian foils if they were readily available.

Yes. I think also 95% of the 'Merican magic playing community wants English cards. At my weekly legacy more people bleed vaginally about my 'dern ferrin' cards then actually like them. I'd say maybe 5 of 30 or so actively want foreign stuff over english stuff. Having spent time in Taiwan in the fall it seemed like English cards were the most valuable there ... with most traders eager to swap chinese for english.

[hukstor]

Everybody does that. By the logic of the homo economicus, everybody's got his own utility function that he's acting to accordingly.

It's almost funny, when you look at it. When someone is lazy and doesn't do a lot to achieve a certain goal, neo-liberal economists would just argue, that he just doesn't want it enough. That his utility function rewards "lying on the couch" more than it does for goal xyz, relative to the cost of his actions. While the simplicity of neo-liberal theories is appealing, I've always been challenging for being to narrow and abstract.



As I said, when everything we do is rational, then what's the point in even bothering about the whole concept/term. I mean, rationality is defined by the existence of irrationality. If there's no such thing, the concept becomes obsolete.

It's not true that everything we do is rational though. Have you ever done something out of impulse and regretted it later? If so, that's probably because doing that thing was unproductive towards some other more important goal you had. You acted irrationally in that moment or perhaps did not know how to best maximize your utility in the long term. So sure, if someone bought a card for $500 and then regretted doing so because he did it out of impulse, then he would have acted irrationally. However, if peope are consistently offering $500 over a long period of time, then they are rationally making that decision based on their goals.

[Julian23]

That's why I dislike neo-liberal theories of economy. There's no room for a concept like regret in them. Just a decision based on incomplete information at a certain point in time. Not to even talk about "impulse." I mean, impulse usually describes a state of insufficient reflection about future implications of your actions. Practically, that works fine for me. But from a scientific point of view, at what point is impulsiveness meant turn into rationality? A person that acts out of impulse still considers the outcome of his or her action - but does so based on a different utility function.

I mean, at the moment you act out of impulse, you're not performing an completely insane move. You just acted based on an utility function. When that functions changes later on, chances are, you will then perceive your past actions as "irrational". However, when you performed them, you considered them "rational" for the time being.

My point is that I see no scientific use in the term "rational", other than stating that a person will do what he/she thinks would serve him best. I blame neo-liberalism for its failure to explain how those preferences, that determine what said person considers best, are actually shaped.

/edit: :11::11:th post! :smile:

[sdematt]

But, since this is the pimp thread, i thought I'd also add something not related to complaints!

I just got my 4 Korean Dread of Night and 2 Korean Warmth in the mail. So nice :)

-Matt

[hukstor]

What you just said is the definition of irrationality. If someone does something out of impulse and has a deviation in their utility function, then later comes back to their original utility function, then they are by definition acting irrationally. They have not behaved in a manner that aids in accomplishing their goals. You are more or less debating the semantic meaning of irrationality rather than rejecting the concept of rationalism. Beyond that, you can make any argument you want, but it would be worthless in a philosophical context.

[RJM]

But, since this is the pimp thread, i thought I'd also add something not related to complaints!

I just got my 4 Korean Dread of Night and 2 Korean Warmth in the mail. So nice :)

-Matt

Yes, too much arguing not enough sexy pictures! More pictures, this I command!

[sdematt]

I've got a final tomorrow morning, so wish me luck, but after that, I'm posting sexy pics, don't you worry :)

-Matt

[Occam]

Arbitrage means absolutely nothing and is more worthwhile as a theoretical equaliser than a practical exercise, especially when it comes to physical goods. The continual failure of all the finance-economic parity conditions pretty much tells you about the world outside the classroom. PPP (Big Mac Index) is a constant study in failing to showcase any kind of price equality in relation to spot rates. IRP means absolutely nothing when economists cannot even decide if changes in interest rates are attractive or not in terms of foreign inflows. And so on.

That said, arbitrage in unison with an oligopolistic market makes arbitrage even worse. Part of the driving argument behind arbitrage, which is a function of EMH, is that there is an assumption that there is a large number of eyes on the lookout for arbitrage opportunities with the means to exploit said arbitrage. An oligopolistic market violates both of these.

There is also the above point of deriving utility from paying a higher price for a certain good, which is absolutely true. I'd go a bit further and say that EF is spot on. You want to know what the fair value of a summer island is right now? About 400. What was it before? 175. What happened? Kid Icarus, and people being convinced that other people paying 400 meant that they would be validated in paying that same amount. Even if his items didn't actually sell, and were shilled, the pressure is on the upside, not the downside, with regards to price. Plus, anyone using rationality without an objective benchmark is going to find it tough to showcase the average ebay user as such. Bounded rationality, perhaps, but a look at the political situation in the US already tells uss how useful that is.

[Mr.C]

Something cool I found in a binder:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7884/img20120410233219.jpg

[r3dd09]

Lovely card sir.

@ Matt - you have a playset of korean DoN's. I cant find any of my english playsets :/

EDIT: instead of looking through my bulk, figured i should just ebay a few playsets for the big tourney this weekend :)

[DownSyndromeKarl]

Is anyone really interested in seeing an all foil Mono-Red Burn? I mean, it's probably the cheapest pimp deck you can make for Legacy, but hell, I'm happy with it.

[ImpinAintEasy]

Is anyone really interested in seeing an all foil Mono-Red Burn? I mean, it's probably the cheapest pimp deck you can make for Legacy, but hell, I'm happy with it.

Can't be any worse than the white bordered Affinity deck posted in this thread, unless it consists of Fire and Lightning crap.

I suppose if you have to ask permission then well, you got your answer :tongue:

[hukstor]

Arbitrage means absolutely nothing and is more worthwhile as a theoretical equaliser than a practical exercise, especially when it comes to physical goods. The continual failure of all the finance-economic parity conditions pretty much tells you about the world outside the classroom. PPP (Big Mac Index) is a constant study in failing to showcase any kind of price equality in relation to spot rates. IRP means absolutely nothing when economists cannot even decide if changes in interest rates are attractive or not in terms of foreign inflows. And so on.

That said, arbitrage in unison with an oligopolistic market makes arbitrage even worse. Part of the driving argument behind arbitrage, which is a function of EMH, is that there is an assumption that there is a large number of eyes on the lookout for arbitrage opportunities with the means to exploit said arbitrage. An oligopolistic market violates both of these.

There is also the above point of deriving utility from paying a higher price for a certain good, which is absolutely true. I'd go a bit further and say that EF is spot on. You want to know what the fair value of a summer island is right now? About 400. What was it before? 175. What happened? Kid Icarus, and people being convinced that other people paying 400 meant that they would be validated in paying that same amount. Even if his items didn't actually sell, and were shilled, the pressure is on the upside, not the downside, with regards to price. Plus, anyone using rationality without an objective benchmark is going to find it tough to showcase the average ebay user as such. Bounded rationality, perhaps, but a look at the political situation in the US already tells uss how useful that is.

I'm not even sure how you can even begin to claim that arbitrage doesn't exist when there are countless examples of it in practice. While it is true that the PPP doesn't hold in practice (short run), it has nothing to do with whether or not arbitrage exists. The variation in prices is largely due to the domestic country's ability to produce that particular good - inputs that are not traded internationally. The failure of the short term PPP is mainly due to production capabilities. If you look at long-term studies, every one of them suggests that the PPP holds once friction is reduced in the long run, even ones that deal with the entire CPI and PPI, not just one particular good.

Oligopolistic markets have a high barriers to entry, so it's obviously less likely for arbitrage to be cleared out. The assumption that there needs to be a large number of people looking out for opportunities is also relative to the size of the market. Since the market is small in this case, then it is conceivable to have arbitrage in oligopolistic competition. With arbitrage established, it is more likely to have a steady stream of profits due to the high barriers of entry. This is a rejection of the EMH in certain markets, and has been demonstrated numerous times in practice.

If what EF said is spot on and the supply of these goods is abundant as he suggests, then you should be able to shill bid up any card. If I put up a Raging Goblin and have a friend buy it for $2000, does that mean everyone else is going to start buying it for $2000 now? The answer here is probably due to the fact that is actually a good amount of supply. While there is some truth in EF's claim, the underlying reason is obviously the limited supply of these cards - which he completely rejects.

[Occam]

I'm not even sure how you can even begin to claim that arbitrage doesn't exist when there are countless examples of it in practice. While it is true that the PPP doesn't hold in practice (short run), it has nothing to do with whether or not arbitrage exists. The variation in prices is largely due to the domestic country's ability to produce that particular good - inputs that are not traded internationally. The failure of the short term PPP is mainly due to production capabilities. If you look at long-term studies, every one of them suggests that the PPP holds once friction is reduced in the long run, even ones that deal with the entire CPI and PPI, not just one particular good.

Oligopolistic markets have a high barriers to entry, so it's obviously less likely for arbitrage to be cleared out. The assumption that there needs to be a large number of people looking out for opportunities is also relative to the size of the market. Since the market is small in this case, then it is conceivable to have arbitrage in oligopolistic competition. With arbitrage established, it is more likely to have a steady stream of profits due to the high barriers of entry. This is a rejection of the EMH in certain markets, and has been demonstrated numerous times in practice.

If what EF said is spot on and the supply of these goods is abundant as he suggests, then you should be able to shill bid up any card. If I put up a Raging Goblin and have a friend buy it for $2000, does that mean everyone else is going to start buying it for $2000 now? The answer here is probably due to the fact that is actually a good amount of supply. While there is some truth in EF's claim, the underlying reason is obviously the limited supply of these cards - which he completely rejects.

READ what I said. Arbitrage as an equalising factor that causes the prevalence of fair prices is completely imaginary. Does it exist? Sure. Is it effective? Obviously not.


Arbitrage in an oligopolistic situation is entirely possible -- that's exactly what I'd be doing if I brought 30k to Japan, bought a mass of japanese foils, and sold them on eBay because the fair market values them higher than the Japanese. If you look at what I am saying, however, the very existence of those barriers to entry, which you obviously agree on, means that only a CERTAIN portion of the population is able to partake in this profit-making exercise, and this is NOT enough to bring the cards back to their actual fair value, by increasing supply outside of Japan. It isn't even in contention that this particular market is inefficient, and that is (using Occam's razor) due to a lack of equalising factors such as a sufficient amount of arbitrage. That EMH doesn't always hold true is something that most financial theorists have embraced to an extent -- or rather the concession that arbitrage IS possible in EMH; but in this case, the failure of EMH as you have pointed out is actually doing nothing but stating that the market for certain foreign foils is inefficient.

Simply put, if the Japanese and Russian markets weren't as closed as they are, and there is plenty of empirical evidence showing that they are, and these product were sold in the US in the same quantities as they are now instead of in Japan and Russia, would you expect prices to be as high as they are, with a smaller number of people controlling supply?

I'm simply agreeing with a portion of what he said, not everything. Even as you typed that example above, I'm certain you did so knowing exactly what I meant -- that utility derived from a high end luxury item is often linked to its price. Comparing a Raging Goblin to a cards that are far rarer (naturally or artificially so) is of no use at all.

Edit: I would argue against PPP even with those caveats, as even discounting the notorious difficulty in the prediction of spot rates, which none of the parity conditions have done well from an empirical point of view. That PPP holds only with the assumption that factors like trade barriers, intrinsic production frontiers etc hold equal or are bridged/breached is a Pyrrhic victory, as those assumptions defeat the purpose of there being a working international economic parity condition in the first place.

[nedleeds]

Is anyone really interested in seeing an all foil Mono-Red Burn? I mean, it's probably the cheapest pimp deck you can make for Legacy, but hell, I'm happy with it.

Well 2 of my Foils from one of those Russian Shards boxes were

<drumroll>

Basic F'ing Mountain

Maybe they can help you pimp.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/001/987/fyeah.jpg

[nedleeds]

Can't be any worse than the white bordered Affinity deck posted in this thread, unless it consists of Fire and Lightning crap.

I suppose if you have to ask permission then well, you got your answer :tongue:

I missed the anti-Pimp affinity. Post #?

[jamesh]

there was a whitened dredge deck about a hundred pages ago (which i thought was really cool) but i didn't see that affinity deck - but i'd like to :)

[DownSyndromeKarl]

I do have F&L lands, only because I haven't hunkered down and bought the full-art Zen foils yet... I recently 'upgraded' my Guides to the GP ones. Personally, I like the art better. And of course the Chain Lightnings, Price, and Fireblast are F&L since that's the only way to get them in foil I believe

[hukstor]

READ what I said. Arbitrage as an equalising factor that causes the prevalence of fair prices is completely imaginary. Does it exist? Sure. Is it effective? Obviously not.



I did read what you wrote. Arbitrage as an equalising factor is not imaginary at all and is quite effective. It may not be effective in every closed off market such as Japanese foils due to other conditions, but to simply say it's imaginary in every market is quite ludicrous. If you monitored the Russian foil market in Russia at all, you would know of a counter example to your point. The price of Russian Foil Snapcasters were initially around $100 in Russia and a few sold in the $300-400 range in the US. Over the past several months, the price in Russia has steadily risen to slightly over $400 (with about the same amount being sold in forums every month) while the price in the US has risen to around $500. The rise in price was due to just a few resellers' activities in the Russian forums. Is arbitrage a perfect equaliser in this closed off market? No, but to say it's imaginary is simply ignoring facts. The fact that just a few arbitrageurs were able to pull the price that closely together shows that it's not imaginary. This is also not a phenomenon unique only to Snapcasters - I just used it as an example.

[Snap_Keep]

The idea that $500 for one card is too much is relative to their discretionary budget.

Is that not the point of this thread? Bragging? Bragging about your fancy cards is basically just bragging about how much you net every month. Could we just cut out the middle man and have everyone compare bank statements?

If you're rich, then maybe 600-1200 doesn't really matter to you the same way it matters to a student or your average working stiff.

[Solaran_X]

I do have F&L lands, only because I haven't hunkered down and bought the full-art Zen foils yet... I recently 'upgraded' my Guides to the GP ones. Personally, I like the art better. And of course the Chain Lightnings, Price, and Fireblast are F&L since that's the only way to get them in foil I believe
There is an old FNM (I believe) Fireblast that uses the old frame, has the shooting star, and the DCI logo where the expansion symbol would have been.

http://www.magiclibrarities.net/70-rarities-friday-night-magic-promos-english-cards-2001.html


If you're rich, then maybe 600-1200 doesn't really matter to you the same way it matters to a student or your average working stiff.
Hey...I'm an average working stiff and I got a ~$10K Vintage deck.

[TheElvishPiper]

If you're rich, then maybe 600-1200 doesn't really matter to you the same way it matters to a student or your average working stiff.

I'm a student (paying for college myself), and I own a fully powered Type One deck thats 90% foiled out, among the binder full of foil cards for various blue Type One decks I like to play, and decks for other formats like EDH and Legacy.

Anyways....I received a few cards in the mail today, nothing too special:

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/2012-04-11_13-58-50_233.jpg

[sdematt]

But, let's not beat around the bush, champs: for those of us who are students, how many of you are paying entirely for your education out of pocket, own a car, own a residence, and pay real taxes? I'm going to say very few.

Most of the students on here (myself included) either work to support our Magic habit, or have other things subsidized in some way, allowing us to fund our Magical card addiction. I'm pretty sure there's not too many guys on here with four kids, car payments, a mortgage, AND university bills that are in the process of building a $10K Vintage deck to be completed by the end of this month.

But, that's also the nice thing about this thread. You can look at some nice stuff and still respect it, just like most of us will never own a Ferrari but will still gawk at one parked across the street, which is totally fair. Furthermore, some of us may be the lucky few to own a Ferrari, but the guy with the Veyron is still going to attract my gaze as well.

-Matt

[Malacoda]

Picked up a few more things recently. Sorry for cell phone pictures.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/endoftheline9/image2.jpg?t=1334187492

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/endoftheline9/image3.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/endoftheline9/image4.jpg?t=1334187534

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/endoftheline9/image-1.jpg?t=1334187557

[Snap_Keep]

Whoa... Jap foil Odious Trow, those are scare!

[coraz86]

Whoa... Jap foil Odious Trow, those are scare!

Actually, I would punch myself in the taint for a set of German foil Goatnappers, but alas I cannot find even one.

Fry has frequently complained, in his attempts to complete sets in foil, that it's actually harder to track down shit foils like Volcano Hellion and Scornful Egotist than good cards, because nobody--not players, not traders, not dealers--carries the random whatever, they only carry what they can reasonably expect to dump. That or he has to scour bulk bins on one wing and a prayer.

So; I don't know why you'd want a Japanese foil Odious Trow, Malacoda, but props for digging one up.

When I get my scanner back up I'll post my foil Ovinomancer and show you all.

[Occam]

I did read what you wrote. Arbitrage as an equalising factor is not imaginary at all and is quite effective. It may not be effective in every closed off market such as Japanese foils due to other conditions, but to simply say it's imaginary in every market is quite ludicrous. If you monitored the Russian foil market in Russia at all, you would know of a counter example to your point. The price of Russian Foil Snapcasters were initially around $100 in Russia and a few sold in the $300-400 range in the US. Over the past several months, the price in Russia has steadily risen to slightly over $400 (with about the same amount being sold in forums every month) while the price in the US has risen to around $500. The rise in price was due to just a few resellers' activities in the Russian forums. Is arbitrage a perfect equaliser in this closed off market? No, but to say it's imaginary is simply ignoring facts. The fact that just a few arbitrageurs were able to pull the price that closely together shows that it's not imaginary. This is also not a phenomenon unique only to Snapcasters - I just used it as an example.

Well, then you didn't read or comprehend what I said properly then.

No one is saying arbitrage doesn't exist. The fact that people are profitting by buying foreign cards from their local markets and selling to the wider market for profits is proof enough. That arbitrage is doing a horrible job of equalising the market for foreign cards is also undebiably true. If you like, we can get into an empirical debate on how PPP would promote a situation of arbitrage-induced price and spot equality, but we both know that I'd win that one because the only way PPP succeeds is if certain stringent conditions are imposed on it. We could also look at the IRP and how spot rates are impacted outside of interest rate differentials, say something like the PBOC's RRR cuts acting on the CNY/F/H outside of actual interest rate changes. And all that is with regards to large investment banks and funds, where there is liquidity AND market making. The market for cards is FAR less liquid, it really is ridiculous to make any form of assumption that some foreign cards are currently at their fair value, regardless of whether some people are making hasty assumptions about supply, which I am not.

Are you at least in agreement with regards to utility and price?

[Octopusman]

So; I don't know why you'd want a Japanese foil Odious Trow, Malacoda, but props for digging one up.


I don't know why he wants it either but I speculate Spanish Inquisition.

[thefringthing]

Russian Blood Moons are pimp? I think I've got one sitting around somewhere if someone wants one.

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

Russian Foil Blood Moons are pimp? I think I've got one sitting around somewhere if someone wants one.

[thefringthing]

Sure. The one in the photo doesn't look foil, though.

[dernestor86]

in nonfoil i guess they dont carry a big premium over english because russian 9th in nonfoil is everywhere

[DerFern]

there was a whitened dredge deck about a hundred pages ago (which i thought was really cool)

It is all-german and whitened. Btw, it´s up for sale. If anybody out there is interested, just send me a message ;)

[Basaka]

http://s1-05.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/559003486.jpg?key=640481

For my high tide. Candelabras are coming!

[Zakman86]

http://s1-05.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/559003486.jpg?key=640481

For my high tide. Candelabras are coming!

I always have loved Euro lands.

I'll have a pretty big post after SCG Birmingham once I pick up a ton of stuff. For those of you who like Japanese foil Enchantress decks, you'll like it. :-) (P.S. I hate not being able to find Presences)

[bfeingersh]

http://s1-05.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/559003486.jpg?key=640481

For my high tide. Candelabras are coming!

I'm so jealous. I've taken to collecting the UK Islands because I can't find any Venice ones :(

[sdematt]

Very nice Venice Islands. Have you ever been?

-Matt

[Gunseng]

Actually, I would punch myself in the taint for a set of German foil Goatnappers, but alas I cannot find even one.


There are several available on MKM (https://www.magickartenmarkt.de/Goatnapper_%28Lorwyn%29.c1p17913.prod) currently. Only 0.50€, but I don't know if shipping to the US is possible.

[hukstor]

Well, then you didn't read or comprehend what I said properly then.

No one is saying arbitrage doesn't exist. The fact that people are profitting by buying foreign cards from their local markets and selling to the wider market for profits is proof enough. That arbitrage is doing a horrible job of equalising the market for foreign cards is also undebiably true. If you like, we can get into an empirical debate on how PPP would promote a situation of arbitrage-induced price and spot equality, but we both know that I'd win that one because the only way PPP succeeds is if certain stringent conditions are imposed on it. We could also look at the IRP and how spot rates are impacted outside of interest rate differentials, say something like the PBOC's RRR cuts acting on the CNY/F/H outside of actual interest rate changes. And all that is with regards to large investment banks and funds, where there is liquidity AND market making. The market for cards is FAR less liquid, it really is ridiculous to make any form of assumption that some foreign cards are currently at their fair value, regardless of whether some people are making hasty assumptions about supply, which I am not.

Are you at least in agreement with regards to utility and price?

It's probably due to the fact that your statements and arguments are poorly organized. We began by discussing the market for Russian foils specifically, yet you are making generalized statements about arbitrage in the the market of all foreign cards. You stated that arbitrage is not a good equalizer (which I don't doubt or argue against in most foreign card markets), but I gave you an example of why it does do a good job in this particular market. If you haven't observed how this market actually functions, then you don't know what is going on there. Is arbitrage a perfect equalizer in this case? No way, but it does a pretty damn good job as most Russian resellers will tell you that it has become magnitudes more difficult to pick up the foils at local clubs and turn a profit from them. You can hardly say that it's a poor equaliser in this specific market.

I also never disagreed with your statement that certain people may derive a higher utility from purchasing more expensive cards. I merely disagreed with what EF said in that the premium is imaginary. He did not mention that people received a higher utility from buying more expensive cards at all.

These debates are stemming from the fact that you are making more generalized assumptions about my comments and leads me to believe that you are actually having trouble understanding what I wrote. You are basically trying to pull an argument out of thin air with that last comment about the agreement of utility. No wonder some other members have suggested that you just enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing :). If coherent statements cannot be made on your part, then I won't continue this any longer.

[Basaka]

Very nice Venice Islands. Have you ever been?

-Matt

I would like to so... sometime before it sinks. Maybe after I graduate, hmm.

As for the Islands, I found the lot of 15 on Ebay with a buynow for 240, and immediately pressed the button. Lucky find, I should say.

[thegrinningdemon]

Come on guys take start a new thread...back on topic.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/Magic%20Collection%202010/MagicCollection004.jpg

Playsets...yes I would like to see an unban in Legacy.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/Magic%20Collection%202010/MagicCollection015.jpg

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee156/thegrinningdemon/Magic%20Collection%202010/MagicCollection005.jpg

[Wombo Combo]

Re: thegrinningdemon

http://i.imgur.com/8QmIp.gif

[nedleeds]

@ GrinningDemon

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/71/24276420344D754CFA2E7B996560E5.jpg

[sdematt]

I'm shopping for Ray-Bans RIGHT now. The motivation has been secured. Sunshine: beware!

-Matt

[Linqed]

Been lurking for a while, but first post! I don't like foils, I'm more into signed and Korean cards, so here's my latest addition:

http://i43.tinypic.com/x10z6o.jpg

A mint & signed Karakas :)

[dernestor86]

even from the poor picture quality i can tell that the card is not mint. wouldnt grade more than 8.0 on the corners, so a total of 9.0 is not possible :-P

[KingInTheNorth]

Hey guys. First post, thought I would bring something a little spicy.


http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/vqdgj.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/vqdgj)

[morphilou]

http://images4.hiboox.com/images/1512/eb55c8892d95fc6a8eae97887db90587.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/divers/p9001,eb55c8892d95fc6a8eae97887db90587.jpg.html)

sorry for the bad sleeve

[sdematt]

Philip, those Alpha are Mint and the sleeves are bad, or is this not your mint stuff?

Also, Ray-Ban Wayfarers acquired. Not Magic related, true, but now I get to feel like it's 1983 again. /Swoon

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4BlfWo7TD0kZKPYj1ux3dzy7zT6PLIoqo13KepEPefTBi8xcqKQ

[Malacoda]

I don't know why he wants it either but I speculate Spanish Inquisition.

You're correct :)

Found it a couple months ago.


in nonfoil i guess they dont carry a big premium over english because russian 9th in nonfoil is everywhere

They actually kind of do because it's the only way to get a nonfoil BB copy with the new art. Even though Russian 9th is everywhere.

[Wereodile]

Also, Ray-Ban Wayfarers acquired. Not Magic related, true, but now I get to feel like it's 1983 again. /Swoon

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4BlfWo7TD0kZKPYj1ux3dzy7zT6PLIoqo13KepEPefTBi8xcqKQ

Also not on topic but I love my (prescription) Ray Ban Wayfarer's.

On Topic: is anyone interested in seeing the few bits of Pimp I have like Italian [card]Maze of Ith[/cards] (x3 I think) Chinese [card]Vampiric Tutor[/cards] among some other things.

[morphilou]

Philip, those Alpha are Mint and the sleeves are bad, or is this not your mint stuff?


the p9 alpha is NMT+ strict

in true MINT i have sapph and ancestral only
i look the other

[Solaran_X]

@ GrinningDemon

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/71/24276420344D754CFA2E7B996560E5.jpg
It actually took me a day or two to remember what movie that was from. Such a great movie.

[sdematt]

They Live...they live!!!

Philip, your Power is very nice :) How long have you been collecting Alpha?

-Matt

[nedleeds]

It actually took me a day or two to remember what movie that was from. Such a great movie.

Are you regreting not getting 80's wrestler power instead of pony power?

[Einherjer]

Are you regreting not getting 80's wrestler power instead of pony power?

Let his ponies. They are cool.

[Solaran_X]

Are you regreting not getting 80's wrestler power instead of pony power?
Nah...I like my Pony Nine. Will never regret it.

[Basaka]

Oh, for those of you who wanted the Venice Islands... SCG just got 55 back in stock. FIFTY FIVE.

[Dark Ritual]

Oh, for those of you who wanted the Venice Islands... SCG just got 55 back in stock. FIFTY FIVE.

Yeah I saw that too. My jaw just dropped, as I checked a few days ago and they have 1 SP in stock or something insignificant. I guess someone was sitting on those for quite a while and decided to unload or something. I'm considering getting some for my high tide deck, but at the same time they're basic lands that cost far too much apiece for my tastes and I'm not some highroller unfortunately with $200 lying around to get 12 copies for high tide.

The venice island is still really awesome art wise though, wish I had picked them up when they were 10 apiece or lower.

[Solaran_X]

I'm considering getting some for my high tide deck, but at the same time they're basic lands that cost far too much apiece for my tastes and I'm not some highroller unfortunately with $200 lying around to get 12 copies for high tide.
Now now...everyone knows the highrollers run with Guru Islands by the stack. And Summers when they're feeling extra saucy.

[sdematt]

Feeling saucy = selling some of their Apple shares :tongue:

Just think of it this way: A Summer island is only 2/3 of an Apple share!

-Matt

[dahcmai]

So what do the high rollers run with for Plains? I like the Sunflower myself. I would like Gurus, but I never ran across any back then for some reason and I just don't like paying that much now.



By the way, I now have a model for my auctions. lol Probably shouldn't drink while setting up auctions, but it was funny.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Factory-Sealed-Ravnica-Fat-Pack-Extremely-rare-Free-Shipping-/370577262276?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56482046c4

[BlackStarDeceiver]

I'm in love with the Dutch Windmill Euro Plains, looks so awesome, clear look, old frame :)

[Petal Collector]

+1 for the Sunflower Plains. I use them for my cube and if I ever need a basic Plains for a (non-EDH) deck.

[Purgatory]

I'm in love with the Dutch Windmill Euro Plains, looks so awesome, clear look, old frame :)

+1, I use it, a UK Swamp, the Venice Island and Scandinavian Islands Euro lands for my EsperBlade, and they look sweet together! :) I picked them all up for around $3-5 a couple of years ago, nearly spilled my drink over my computer when I saw the SCG prices.

[Zakman86]

I don't really feel like embedding gigantic pictures, but this is my newest project:

Zak's Japanese foil Enchantress deck
(http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/)

(This also allows me to add more pics later without having to edit :))

[nedleeds]

Feeling saucy = selling some of their Apple shares :tongue:

Just think of it this way: A Summer island is only 2/3 of an Apple share!

-Matt

Feeling saucy is having a WCoC of $106 in Chipotle. Then getting out at $411.

[sdematt]

Or buying gold when the stock market reopened right after September 11 for $200 an ounce and selling it for $1700. Sure, you'd wait a while, but still a pretty decent multiplier.

Or, just selling your own Personal Tutors. Buy in at 15, sell at 40. Make 25 in no time at all!

-Matt

[nedleeds]

Thanks dernestor for helping with this deck. Too bad I got fucking rolled like a donut on Wednesday. I lost twice after resolving Eureka and dropping multiple planeswalkers, embarrassing as hell. Then in the last round I lost to tribal shamans. Shamans.

I snapped some pics since I'm never playing this heap again.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-im4sRQ6QY2s/T4jZ-TOrQQI/AAAAAAAAAQk/MgvmVam-v0o/s1024/IMAG0040.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Swl5D3dDSms/T4jaCp4svCI/AAAAAAAAAQs/PjfIXxeMXmU/s1024/IMAG0042%2520%25282%2529.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UkniNj4B3_c/T4jZy1UKpsI/AAAAAAAAAQU/hB7AUa7aYTQ/s1024/IMAG0039.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jvUlHrky1LQ/T4jaJ40E_RI/AAAAAAAAAQ0/45uKIfLArTc/s1024/IMAG0046%2520%25282%2529.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jsg1nyfgqu4/T4jZ5s-2fII/AAAAAAAAAQc/2d3YTWzf0fo/s1024/IMAG0037.jpg

[nedleeds]

Also ... somewhat on topic, does anyone have 4 x Metalworker and 4 x Goblin Welder in German or T-Chinese they'd swap for Japanese straight up?

[sdematt]

Pics need less sandals :P

Oh well, it happens. Deck looks cool though!

-Matt

[JDK]

Also ... somewhat on topic, does anyone have 4 x Metalworker and 4 x Goblin Welder in German or T-Chinese they'd swap for Japanese straight up?

I only have two German ones. :/

[jamesh]

I don't really feel like embedding gigantic pictures, but this is my newest project:

Zak's Japanese foil Enchantress deck
(http://s300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/)

(This also allows me to add more pics later without having to edit :))

nice wild growths - prob would be more popular if you were bothered to embed.

[Zakman86]

nice wild growths - prob would be more popular if you were bothered to embed.

I haven't had the time to go back and resize due to work; once I pick up more I'll likely embed and resize.

[death]

LOL @ Japanese


http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9286/25106395.jpg

[nedleeds]

LOL @ Japanese


http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9286/25106395.jpg

Like salt in a wound.

[Koby]

I went way too deep and finally upgraded my FBB German Savannahs into Beta NM ones. My wallet is hurting :cry:

http://p.twimg.com/AqkM7GDCQAAI7N8.jpg:large

[sdematt]

Korean Recurring Nightmare on the way!

@Koby

Tits. Nice Savs.

-Matt

[Markers]

I am asked on a regular basis what my favorite cards out of my collection are. To my astonishment I never really thought about that...Until now

I've "only" added cards and cycles of cards to make it more interesting (signed sets are unbeatable IMHO).

I will update the Top10 as my collection keeps on growing...

Enjoy!


Here is the current Top 10 of Markers Magic collection (14th April 2012):

#10 - Serra Elemental:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/10_SerraElemental.jpg

Pursading both Doug Shuler and Amy Weber to sign on the card is not an easy task :wink:



#9 - Jace2 Playset:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/9_BigJace.jpg

The most sought after Planeswalker and the artist has made 2 (or 3) appearances so far...No signing via mail...



#8 - Judge Maze of Ith Playset:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/8_JudgeOfIth.jpg

I really like the alteration on those Mazes...And it was the last playset I got signed by the two (they don't sign anymore :-( )



#7 - Alpha Bolt Playset:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/7_AlphaBolt.jpg

A lucky punch while roaming the forums. My first and only Chris Rush alter...



#6 - Vampiric Tutor:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/6_vampirictutor.jpg

Another lucky punch...The first and only artist signed Vampiric Tutor I've ever seen...



#5 - Stasis Collection:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/5_Stasis.jpg

Top Row: Artist Proof / Collector's Edition / Alpha
2nd Row: Beta Playset
3rd Row: Unlimited Playset
4th Row: Revised Playset

Not shown on this picture: 4th and 5th Edition Playsets



#4 - Nevinyrral's Disk:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/4_LarryNivens_Disk.jpg

Larry Niven and his Disk ;-)



#3 - Imperial Seal:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/3_ImperialSeal.jpg

Finding Li Tie was quite hard....



#2 - Beta Dual set:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/2_dualsA.jpg
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/2_dualsB.jpg

Doesn't need any text does it...

[Markers]

Markers Top10 - Part 2/2

#1 - Beta Moxes:

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x362/Markersman/Magic/Complete%20Signed%20Sets/Top10/1_Moxes-1.jpg

Dan Frazier's Masterpieces

[dernestor86]

my goodness, those cards are beautiful markers!
i´ve been searching for a long while for a signed vampiric tutor but no luck yet :-(
congrats that you found one =)

keep on posting nice stuff like that!

[Markers]

my goodness, those cards are beautiful markers!
i´ve been searching for a long while for a signed vampiric tutor but no luck yet :-(
congrats that you found one =)

keep on posting nice stuff like that!

Thanks!

It is the first and so far only artist signed Vampiric Tutor I've ever seen. I had to have it...

[Chimera87]

So here's my current project, my so-called Team Eternal's Jace's Gifts. It's still a work in progress, but the deck is running quite well lately.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/xtremewinner/MTG/bUg%20Jaces%20Gifts/Deck1.jpg
Best wishes brainstorm was a gift from a Russian player after I scooped to him in the last round of day 1 in GP:Amsterdam. This because the game was a draw and we both wouldn't have been able to go to day 2 without someone scooping. I couldn't go day 2, so I scooped. This was the reward.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/xtremewinner/MTG/bUg%20Jaces%20Gifts/Deck2.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/xtremewinner/MTG/bUg%20Jaces%20Gifts/Deck3.jpg

Sideboard:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/xtremewinner/MTG/bUg%20Jaces%20Gifts/SB.jpg

As you can see, the sideboard still needs some work, but other than the sideboard everything's blackbordered and foil (if possible). Still looking for 3 foil Thoughtseizes (Darn expensive for a B sorcery...) and 4 guildpact foil Leylines.

[Loxmatii]

Chimera87, i know this Russian player (=
this is a good Russian custom- to give cards like a presents for friends and sign them :cool:

[da lynch mob]

If i get time tonight i'll throw up my enchantress deck. If your from the baltimore area, then you know how it is. still need a couple of non foil non english cards for it though

[xfxf]

I went way too deep and finally upgraded my FBB German Savannahs into Beta NM ones. My wallet is hurting :cry:


Yea man, I noticed those on the SCG feature match and thought to myself once again "Why don't I build a Maverick deck, it looks so cozy".

[ween]

I've been following this thread for ages and would love to post some pics of my decks.

I fear though, that they would be put to shame by some of these.

Simply because i like english non-foils, sadly that's not considered pimp.

I did just invest in my first playsets of Revised Duals (Scrublands), and minty Beta Lightning Bolts, Force of Will, City of Traitors etc.

Sadly there's not a huge Legacy community here, so i'm mostly making decks for myself and friends to play with.

[sdematt]

Judging by the classy avatar art you have, I'm sure it's great.

"Do your best and forget the rest." Yep, sappy quote, but post it, we wants to see!

-Matt

[thefringthing]

I like English non-foil black-borders! Post your stuff, and if people don't like it they can just scroll past.

[sauce]

i hope he trolls everyone w/ edgar summer duals.

[thefringthing]

It would actually be sweet if there were a "Post Your Deck" thread that wasn't necessarily pimp-related.

[ween]

Well cheers for the encouragement everyone. I'll edit this post when i get home with some photos

Matt: Thanks, <3 John Avon lands, i actually just popped down to the frame store with the 5 signed Unhinged land posters to have them mounted.

[bfeingersh]

If i get time tonight i'll throw up my enchantress deck. If your from the baltimore area, then you know how it is. still need a couple of non foil non english cards for it though

Looking forward to it Paul. I saw you battling in the win a mox at GP baltimore but didn't get a chance to say hey afterwards.

[keys]

Some jaw-dropping cards on the last couple pages. :eek: I epecially love the Beta Savannahs and Altered Alpha Lightning Bolts. Props!

[sdematt]

I think there may be a problem if it wasn't post your deck. Judging by the fact there's some Aussies (Ween :wink:) on here, "Post your deck" might sound like something else and lead to some interesting posts... :tongue:

-Matt

[Goin Aggro]

Guys, now normally I don't post here, but I think this may blow all of your minds.

Check this sweet pull...

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n590/bchang1992/OtherNorin.jpg

And you know what's even sweeter? THIS!

http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n590/bchang1992/RussianNorin.jpg

And sorry, I know my scanner makes my cards look like crap, but they're both minty fresh.

[Ajsmirnov]

So here's my current project, my so-called Team Eternal's Jace's Gifts. It's still a work in progress, but the deck is running quite well lately.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/xtremewinner/MTG/bUg%20Jaces%20Gifts/Deck1.jpg
Best wishes brainstorm was a gift from a Russian player after I scooped to him in the last round of day 1 in GP:Amsterdam. This because the game was a draw and we both wouldn't have been able to go to day 2 without someone scooping. I couldn't go day 2, so I scooped. This was the reward.


Hi! Cool to see my Brainstorm in such a nice deck :smile:
Like your duals btw.

[sdematt]

What card is that?

-Matt

[keys]

RUG. My favorite color combo in MTG.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-59dhTldF_NA/T40A9udtlOI/AAAAAAAACrA/hj0pOTPZ_wY/s800/Thresh1.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gdu_1aO0QP8/T40A-csitKI/AAAAAAAACrI/rDscIcLLzeU/s800/Thresh2.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--dGOOj3-MKY/T40A_cvS-LI/AAAAAAAACrQ/alO40tqYorM/s800/Thresh3.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XD6lNvY6cUA/T40BACk5rJI/AAAAAAAACrY/rEheXy1yb04/s800/Thresh4.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CEOSDFlWJbU/T40BAg0zk3I/AAAAAAAACrg/FZvBSnJsWpg/s800/Thresh5.jpg

[keys]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0nPH2GUrGxE/T40BBuXKlyI/AAAAAAAACro/fHuCkh2j5Os/s800/Thresh6.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zKpPjAjBies/T40BCYsU8uI/AAAAAAAACrw/myAM8P3kV2E/s800/Thresh7.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i788oInQtAI/T40BC1MT2DI/AAAAAAAACr4/cg8nGMCdqT0/s800/Thresh8.jpg

Sideboard:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qaQkvCUvQFk/T40BD1qw2JI/AAAAAAAACsA/Jk1IyDyYR5Q/s800/Thresh9.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t7_NQ8w65u8/T40BEivjxHI/AAAAAAAACsI/ZeSrBg-H-fk/s800/Thresh10.jpg

The Goyfs aren't foil... and I'm missing a foil Lorwyn Ponder. Can't have everything, right? Also, don't judge me based on the decklist-- it's always changing. This is just my prettiest stuff.

[Chimera87]

Hi! Cool to see my Brainstorm in such a nice deck :smile:
Like your duals btw.

Ah, there you are :) Yeah I upgraded my duals since Amsterdam. Quite satisfied with the way my deck looks now.

[Sloshthedark]

I love the Niven disk...


What card is that?

-Matt

Norin, the Wary if you mean the red guy

Interesting Gifts list & Nice Thresh by the way

[ween]

"Post your deck" might sound like something else and lead to some interesting posts

Means the same here as it does anywhere i'd imagine :tongue:
Although, it does get a snicker from an office full of IT "professionals" ahaha

Speaking of, i really should be able to work a scanner considering i manage federal government IT systems for a living haha

I noticed the edges weren't lining up half way through and it was too late to go back. White border cards messed with it also and cut the bottom off

Again, i'm sure 90% of people won't consider these "pimp" but it's what i love :smile:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7858/img043o.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5508/img042l.jpg
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/7421/img040l.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8625/img039o.jpg
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9339/img041hp.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3176/img044bz.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2846/img045ik.jpg

[ween]

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5121/img046oh.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/999/img047t.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1011/img048ga.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1633/img049zr.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3835/img050o.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/882/img051fs.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8426/img052kd.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9884/img053pp.jpg

[ween]

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9707/img054uw.jpg
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/9563/img055mq.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4994/img056rn.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5467/img057q.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6769/img058q.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5098/img059b.jpg
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/1523/img060b.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8472/img061lf.jpg

[ween]

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6181/img062a.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7134/img063v.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/773/img064e.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6162/img065cp.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6251/img066ni.jpg
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6808/img067wv.jpg
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3488/img068j.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7918/img069s.jpg

[ninjamasta]

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9707/img054uw.jpg
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/9563/img055mq.jpg
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4994/img056rn.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5467/img057q.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6769/img058q.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5098/img059b.jpg
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/1523/img060b.jpg
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8472/img061lf.jpg

anti-PIMP detected)

[ween]

While i don't mind the criticism, for everyone's sake can you not quote a wall of cards and leave a three word reply please? Thank you :smile:

[birds of paradise2]

It's refreshing to see english-nonfoil decks, i think they look lovely.

[DerFern]

Oh how I prefer all-english-nm-beauty towards a deck containing somne asian, half european, two-third-foil-randomness. Not exactly "pimp" as in "expensive", but beautiful nonetheless. Thanks for sharing!
However, for the sake of criticism: you need to upgrade those scrublands!

[ween]

I had a bunch of stuff lying around and the last thing i needed was BW dual lands. Between Ravnica shocks and those, i chose those. It's not really my style deck, i prefer combo and aggressive decks, thus Burn, Elves and High Tide :) But hey, if i get into it, maybe i'll shell out for A/B.

Thanks for the feedback, i'm glad it's not just me who likes boring old english non-foils :)

And yes, i'm aware i have a few foils splashed in, the art on Rift Bolt\Hellspark etc is way better on the promo (personal opinion)

[bfeingersh]

I like decks that are consistent, even if they're not super pimped. When I see a deck with 4 mismatched Dark Rituals because 1 was foil, 1 was FBB, 1 is summer, 1 is japanese foil, it's nice that you have a few hundred bucks to blow on a single playset but I'd rather see a set of FBB or something cheaper but consistently nice looking.

[jamesh]

foil modern pt. 4 - RUG
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img001-14.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img002-13.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img003-12.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img004-12.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img005-11.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img006-11.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img007-11.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img008-11.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh308/jamesham/img009-7.jpg

[birds of paradise2]

Nice as always. Do you have any primeval deck? I'd love to see that!

[Zakman86]

I like decks that are consistent, even if they're not super pimped. When I see a deck with 4 mismatched Dark Rituals because 1 was foil, 1 was FBB, 1 is summer, 1 is japanese foil, it's nice that you have a few hundred bucks to blow on a single playset but I'd rather see a set of FBB or something cheaper but consistently nice looking.

Agreed. That's why I don't like decks that are part Japanese, part Korean, part English. I know English is the only option on a lot of cards, so that's fine, but language consistency is absolutely a thing when possible.

[nedleeds]

Guys, now normally I don't post here, but I think this may blow all of your minds.

Check this sweet pull...

<snip> hot norin </snip>

And you know what's even sweeter? THIS!

<snip> hot norin </snip>

And sorry, I know my scanner makes my cards look like crap, but they're both minty fresh.

I don't usually call bullshit here but I think that top Norin is inked.

[nedleeds]

I like decks that are consistent, even if they're not super pimped. When I see a deck with 4 mismatched Dark Rituals because 1 was foil, 1 was FBB, 1 is summer, 1 is japanese foil, it's nice that you have a few hundred bucks to blow on a single playset but I'd rather see a set of FBB or something cheaper but consistently nice looking.

I'd like that also but sometimes you just assemble them over a long period of time, often through one off trades or eBay snipes. You eventually get everything matched up. You can't always just hit eBay for a 4 x especially for obscure stuff / languages.

[sdematt]

Summer pimp acquired for Thopters. Chicka-yeah! Burn can suck on it against my Summer Circle of Protection Red. Neener neener :tongue:

-Matt

[Chimera87]

New arrivals from the states (SCG) for my Thopters list:
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/xtremewinner/MTG/2012-04-17191508.jpg

[Goin Aggro]

I don't usually call bullshit here but I think that top Norin is inked.

You got me. It was originally white border, and the seller told me it was summer, but when I got it looked at by reputable dealer, they told me I had been scammed.

So I just inked it to make it blend in with the others.

[Julian23]

He told you a foil from Time Spiral was Summer? :confused:
This man must be a Jedi.

[dernestor86]

He told you a foil from Time Spiral was Summer? :confused:
This man must be a Jedi.

made my day xD

[Zakman86]

made my day xD

It'd make my day if you answered the PM I sent you >_<

[dernestor86]

It'd make my day if you answered the PM I sent you >_<

i cleared my mails yesterday as they where full. where you the enchantress guy or something? if yes, i didnt look through my stuff yet

[Picc]

Got some new pimp so I figured Id post it here

http://i967.photobucket.com/albums/ae159/paulmiszczak/Cool%20Toys/P3220320.jpg

[Linqed]

That Mana Drain looks really good!

[Snap_Keep]

I was going to say that too. That thing is enviably minty.

[ween]

It looks great.

I just don't like how the Legends cards are heaps ligher. At first i thought it was just my Chain Lightnings, Resets etc

[nedleeds]

It looks great.

I just don't like how the Legends cards are heaps ligher. At first i thought it was just my Chain Lightnings, Resets etc

Actually ... those two cards side by side remind me of how disgustingly putrid the border change is. It's horrible on so many levels.

[chags]

Actually ... those two cards side by side remind me of how disgustingly putrid the border change is. It's horrible on so many levels.

+1

[TheElvishPiper]

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa460/TheElvishPiper/2012-04-20_12-49-59_619-1.jpg
The fourth Lotus Cobra is miscut, but will be replaced with a foil soon enough :cool:

[bfeingersh]

^ Sweet Jar

[ween]

how disgustingly putrid the border change is.

I wouldn't call the new border putrid, but I definitely prefer the old style border.

[Linqed]

I wouldn't call the new border putrid, but I definitely prefer the old style border.

I prefer using old border cards 2, but that's not because I think the new ones ugly, just because it's old :smile:

[L-Luck]

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/wasteland730dfse542.jpg

Somebody got a clue what this Waste is worth? Bought those two Beautys from a friend :)

[mini1337s]

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/wasteland730dfse542.jpg

Somebody got a clue what this Waste is worth? Bought those two Beautys from a friend :)

They go for $90 NM on most sites. The signature can add some value, but it depends on the buyer.

[dernestor86]

At least my sideboard is now completely ready!
everything that can be foil is foil! only the pyroblast is not foil of course, maybe if i find one, i will upgrade it to japanese double signed, because for me japanese double signed is a little bit better than korean, and this way i can get one language less in that deck ;-)

basic problem of my maindeck is the fetchlands and hurkyls recall, still missing 2x russian foil misty rainforest or 2x scalding tarn to replace the jap foil deltas. i prefer russian fetches over japanese and i don´t run nonblue basics anyway so that´s the way i want to go. and about hurkyls recall, i probably will never find a russian 10th edition one, i would pay very well on it. at the moment i run a summer copy, but not feeling well with it. so 3 cards away from almost-perfection (you are never done) ;-)

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mysideboardre1zl52k9od4.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)
http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/mysideboardrewh2g56xyvz.jpg (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

[Nabbydian]

Here is my all foil Legacy Knights deck which I have had for a while.

The only non-foil card is a revised Savannah.

I alternate between Batterskull and Umezawa's Jitte mainboard, with an additional Qasali Pridemage in the picture for playset sake.

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/nabbydian/IMG_0552.jpg
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/nabbydian/IMG_0556.jpg
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/nabbydian/IMG_0558.jpg
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/nabbydian/IMG_0560.jpg
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/nabbydian/IMG_0562.jpg

And here this is a picture of the whole deck:

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/nabbydian/IMG_0572.jpg

[sdematt]

@ Dernestor

I feel the same way. Even when I think I'm done pimping, the deck changes and I need to pick up new pimp, or there's usually an upgrade or change that can be made. I know how you feel :)

-Matt

[Malacoda]

@ Dernestor

I feel the same way. Even when I think I'm done pimping, the deck changes and I need to pick up new pimp, or there's usually an upgrade or change that can be made. I know how you feel :)

-Matt

Never done, but definitely on the way.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/endoftheline9/IMG_0017.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w181/endoftheline9/IMG_0016.jpg

[Wereodile]

@Malacoda - God I love Russian cards, excellent finds!

[thefringthing]

By popular demand, here's my deck.

Maindeck:
http://i.imgur.com/iZc3i.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wGN0y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vgDtk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zCfQl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oWGxk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Vhet9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yc72F.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8mRMh.jpg

Sideboard:
http://i.imgur.com/v6kw5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0VS38.jpg

Discussion:
My aesthetic preference is to play the original English non-foil version of a card, wherever possible. A little explanation of the exceptions follows. The FBB German duals are a financial compromise on Beta, obviously. (I don't like the weird Alpha borders.) I like the Masques Brainstorm art a lot more than I like the Ice Age version, so I went with Masques. Similarly, I went with M11 Silence over M10 because the flavour text is much better. I can't really explain why I like the textless Ponders more than the M10 version, as the M10 art is very good. (The Lorwyn version is awful, Merfolk titties notwithstanding.)

[mini1337s]

I can't really explain why I like the textless Ponders more than the M10 version, as the M10 art is very good.
I like the deck, but the Ponders standout in a bad way, atleast for me. As they are the only full-art cards in the deck, they just seem in a weird to have in there. Honestly though, I'm the same way about any full-art card, including the ridiculously expensive ones like Mutavault or Doran.
Like the deck though, and I hear you on the price of Beta duals :P (I had to settle for Unlimited).

[ween]

Discussion:
My aesthetic preference is to play the original English non-foil version of a card, wherever possible. A little explanation of the exceptions follows. The FBB German duals are a financial compromise on Beta, obviously. (I don't like the weird Alpha borders.) I like the Masques Brainstorm art a lot more than I like the Ice Age version, so I went with Masques. Similarly, I went with M11 Silence over M10 because the flavour text is much better. I can't really explain why I like the textless Ponders more than the M10 version, as the M10 art is very good. (The Lorwyn version is awful, Merfolk titties notwithstanding.)

Three moon Ponder > Full Art > Fish Ponder.

Personal preference of coarse.

Lovely deck though, very nice.

Glad to hear i'm not the only one that picks things based on flavour text also haha

[Zakman86]

Oh hey, full deck scans. Still short Presences and Heaths.

The Main Deck!
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressMain1.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressMain2.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressMain3.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressMain4.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressMain5.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressMain6.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressMain7.jpg

The Sideboard!
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressSideboard1.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressSideboard2.jpg

Other cards that could be used at some point!
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressOther1.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn12/Zakman86/Enchantress/Japanese%20foiling/EnchantressOther2.jpg

[sdematt]

/jizz

-Matt

[ween]

Oh hey, full deck scans. Still short Presences and Heaths.
[/IMG]

Very pretty

I wish i knew what half of them did :confused:

[phonics]

Is that third replenish slightly misprinted (the name, type and artist name are shifted up slightly)? Those old frame white jap foils are too sick.

[Zakman86]

Is that third replenish slightly misprinted (the name, type and artist name are shifted up slightly)? Those old frame white jap foils are too sick.

I didn't notice it at first actually, but you're right. That one should probably be in the main deck :)

[Harduvel]

and about hurkyls recall, i probably will never find a russian 10th edition one, i would pay very well on it. at the moment i run a summer copy, but not feeling well with it.

Ha! Got a kick out of that.

[thefringthing]

The foil 7th Edition Wild Growths look pretty cool. The random signatures on the Savannah and Windswept Heath make me sad, though.

[jamesh]

^ nice wild growths (is Emrakul foil?)

[jjflipped]

OK guys, I figure this is as good a place as any to find this stuff.

I still need the following for Zur EDH:

Tezzeret, the Seeker - Foil Japanese
Magus of the Future - Foil Japanese
Tidespout Tyrant - Foil Japanese
Future Sight - Foil Japanese
Merchant Scroll - Foil Japanese
Chrome Mox - Foil Japanese
Gilded Lotus - Foil Japanese
Mikokoro, Center of the Sea - Foil Japanese
Watery Grave - Foil Japanese
Hallowed Fountain - Foil Japanese
Polluted Delta - Foil Japanese
Flooded Strand - Foil Japanese
Scalding Tarn - Foil Japanese
Chain of Vapor - Foil Japanese
Talisman of Dominance - Foil Japanese

AAAND... beacuse this is the pimp thread...

Some pimp thats coming in the mail!

http://i41.tinypic.com/11779fk.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/aabsc6.jpg

[John Cox]

Today's mail,

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee511/johngcox/coolstuffs.jpg
The lim-dul's took forever to tack down. glad to have them.

[MoxMonkey]

Today's mail,

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee511/johngcox/coolstuffs.jpg
The lim-dul's took forever to tack down. glad to have them.

It took me forever just to find 1 german lim-dul's vault. Good job finding them!

[Julian23]

Meanwhile in Europe... (https://www.magickartenmarkt.de/Lim_Duls_Vault_(Alliances).c1p8044.prod)

:wink:

[MoxMonkey]

Meanwhile in Europe... (https://www.magickartenmarkt.de/Lim_Duls_Vault_(Alliances).c1p8044.prod)

:wink:

I actually like the challenge of finding the cards I need. Buying is way too easy.

[dahcmai]

I'd love to have someone willing to send me stuff from that site since it's Europe only.

[whienot]

I'd love to have someone willing to send me stuff from that site since it's Europe only.

Wasn't there a rumor magiccardmarket.eu was going to go worldwide? I think I remember reading that they were going to make an announcement sometime in 2012.

[Gunseng]

I know that there is at least one canadian shop selling on mkm, so I am not sure whether it is still europe only.

[sdematt]

I'm pretty sure Jeu Face a Face is selling on there, but they're from Montreal, Quebec, so they're pretty much out of Europe. It's not like Quebec is really Canada, anyway. :laugh:

-Matt

[Machahiko]

Face 2 Face games sells stuff in MCM and they're blazing fast sending orders, pretty much as fast as German shops which have been insanely fast. As an example me and my friend ordered cards from Finland and Germany, the package from Germany arrived faster than letter from Finland. :laugh:

If someone needs help with MCM or needs someone to do shopping for him, I could help. Cards would be sent from sellers to me, from me to you. Shipping from Finland to USA with tracking would cost 8,5€ (without tracking 0,7-1,5€) and with insurance for 500€ it would cost 16,20€.

edit: tcgmarket.eu shirts have been added to magiccardmarket.eu, could be that people out of EU are going to get in soon(ish)!

[Loxmatii]

hello to everyone here! my name is Sergey, i am from Russia and i hate russian cards :laugh:
but i prefer non-english european languages. and i like when all cards in playset are in different languages. so i want to entroduce you my enchantress deck
and my playmate. My good friend created it for this deck
http://pics.livejournal.com/detina_bart/pic/0001fx7h/s640x480
main deck:
http://pics.livejournal.com/detina_bart/pic/00017che/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/detina_bart/pic/00018qbg/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/detina_bart/pic/00019ywg/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/detina_bart/pic/0001ae46/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/detina_bart/pic/0001brrt/s640x480

sideboard:
http://pics.livejournal.com/detina_bart/pic/0001c3fh/s640x480

http://pics.livejournal.com/detina_bart/pic/0001d527

[Julian23]

Oh my God Sergey, this must be the most unique and coolest Enchantress deck I have ever seen! I've been pretty busy lately but we'll have to get in touch soon again! :-)

Bonus points: the Enlightened Tutor is altered to look like Sergey. Bonus points!

Love your signature! :cool:

[atropos]

Wasn't there a rumor magiccardmarket.eu was going to go worldwide? I think I remember reading that they were going to make an announcement sometime in 2012.

Aside from ebay are there any websites like this in the United States? I don't want to have to buy from SCG when I go back home.

[nedleeds]

@Loxmatii

Damn I love that deck! It's just all over the place but it seems like you hand picked every card. And if you hate your Russian cards there are plenty of folks on this board willing to swap with you I'm sure :p I need to swap my German Bob for a last Russian one so that all my Bobs are politically aligned. The German one always betrays me and flips my singleton Tombstalker.

[sdematt]

That deck is very nice, but that playmat is bonkers. Love the Cursed Totem art and Tabernacle on there.

May I ask who did it? If he's local for you, does he do commissions?

-Matt

[dernestor86]

That deck is very nice, but that playmat is bonkers. Love the Cursed Totem art and Tabernacle on there.

May I ask who did it? If he's local for you, does he do commissions?

-Matt

oh, soon i might post something what you may like matt - i switched manabase from wb/summer to bb a bit and putting in mint and nm beta duals, wasnt at home today so i have to pick em up from post office tomorrow =)

[sdematt]

Oh, very nice. I look forward to it, Dernestor. If you have any duals you don't want, maybe let me know :)

Also, Burn, eat a dick sandwich. I got this for my Thopters board, just so I had an answer worth more than their deck, even if it was pimped out a bit.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t226/mattandgeoff/scan0229.jpg

-Matt

[nedleeds]

"Heee heeee (burp) you'se couldn't even afford a ferrin' circle redddd. Chain lightnin' ya"

- Burn Player

[Blizzard96]

Is anyone interested in a russian foil Dark Confidant?

[sdematt]

For the right price, anyone would be interested :tongue:

-Matt

[nedleeds]

Is anyone interested in a russian foil Dark Confidant?

I'd sooner wipe with sandpaper then play foils but certainly there is demand, I believe a playset sold for something along the lines of a used car recently on eBay. If anyone has a non foil I'm all ears.

[rxavage]

I am now the not so proud owner of 22 mint mountains from the starter 1999 decks. Only after paying for the order did i realize that they were white bordered, pic looked like black border. The online retailer refused to change my order or refund despite me emailing them immediately.Their excuse was that my order already shipped usps... on a sunday. Any ideas on how to pimp these?

[nedleeds]

I am now the not so proud owner of 22 mint mountains from the starter 1999 decks. Only after paying for the order did i realize that they were white bordered, pic looked like black border. The online retailer refused to change my order or refund despite me emailing them immediately.Their excuse was that my order already shipped usps... on a sunday. Any ideas on how to pimp these?

I would cover them in win.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/schmuck/elwayAP.jpg

[jjjoness']

I am now the not so proud owner of 22 mint mountains from the starter 1999 decks. Only after paying for the order did i realize that they were white bordered, pic looked like black border. The online retailer refused to change my order or refund despite me emailing them immediately.Their excuse was that my order already shipped usps... on a sunday. Any ideas on how to pimp these?

Play anti-pimp all wb Burn.

[bfeingersh]

Play anti-pimp all wb Burn.

I'm working on all mismatched WB mountains, random languages and art, promo foils and awful sharpie alters burn.

It's going to be a masterpiece

[Koby]

I am now the not so proud owner of 22 mint mountains from the starter 1999 decks. Only after paying for the order did i realize that they were white bordered, pic looked like black border. The online retailer refused to change my order or refund despite me emailing them immediately.Their excuse was that my order already shipped usps... on a sunday. Any ideas on how to pimp these?

Are they by any chance these mountains?

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/po/212.jpg

[dahcmai]

I personally like WB Mountains. I use a bunch of Three Kingdoms ones in most of my EDH decks and Legacy ones as well. It's funny to see BB Duals next to WB Basics.

[warfordium]

I personally like WB Mountains. I use a bunch of Three Kingdoms ones in most of my EDH decks and Legacy ones as well. It's funny to see BB Duals next to WB Basics.


WB == easier to fetch…

[socialite]

White boarder is the better boarder.

[chags]

Does anyone care to see standard pimp? My legacy list is still very far off from being ready to see these threads but my standard deck looks pretty nice.

[rxavage]

Are they by any chance these mountains?

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/po/212.jpg




yes that was the mountain pictured and instead i got 4 of those in white border and the rest were different art. I'm not happy to in the least, I wanted those specific mountains and I got rubbish.

[Aggro_zombies]

Does anyone care to see standard pimp? My legacy list is still very far off from being ready to see these threads but my standard deck looks pretty nice.
People have posted Vintage, EDH, and general singleton pimp in this thread, so Standard is probably fine.

[Malacoda]

Awesome Enchantress deck. Love the "need more mana" foil Utopia Sprawl. Also, I'm joining the people who just love your playmat.

[Machahiko]

Loxmatii, now that's awesome!

I've always wondered what a deck like that would look like, and now that I've seen how awesome it looks like, I know what direction I want to take my TES. :)

[atropos]

I'm working on all mismatched WB mountains, random languages and art, promo foils and awful sharpie alters burn.

It's going to be a masterpiece

This is hilarious, I can't wait to see the glorious final product.

[Sloshthedark]

beautiful playmat, I like your deck, feels really "personalized", would you post your Lands deck?


I'm working on all mismatched WB mountains, random languages and art, promo foils and awful sharpie alters burn.

It's going to be a masterpiece

Fat kid's sligh =D make it all greasy, condition fine or worse and make people cry :cool:

I've met something I'd describe Swimming Dredge, quotes like "Don't play cards in a bathtub" written all over it, for a reason...