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Wallace
08-14-2008, 03:53 PM
Since you're on the subject, a friend of mine has a magic card with a normal back and a blank (all white) front and was curious if it was worth anything or if that type of misprint happens often.
Those only go for like $10-20, the foil blanks go for $20-30.
Wallace
08-22-2008, 01:18 PM
Yeah Dragon Stompy!!!
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/Wally891/CIMG0296.jpg
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/Wally891/CIMG0297.jpg
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/Wally891/CIMG0298.jpg
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/Wally891/CIMG0299.jpg
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/Wally891/CIMG0301.jpg
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/Wally891/CIMG0303.jpg
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/Wally891/CIMG0304.jpg
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/Wally891/CIMG0306.jpg
Just need 1 more CoTV and 2 more Chrome Moxen and it will be complete.
deviant
08-22-2008, 01:31 PM
It's somehow saddening that after Bryant's TES I get a hard-on from foil Sloggers.
But whatever, I've got me a hard-on.
Bryant Cook
08-22-2008, 01:42 PM
English foil? GTFO NOOB.
Frenger
08-22-2008, 02:05 PM
$20 for the set, who wants 'em?
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/lotuswastelg-1.jpg
Wallace
08-22-2008, 02:55 PM
English foil? GTFO NOOB.
One step at a time, I have to see how long I will be playing the deck before I dump more money into it.
Shriekmaw
08-22-2008, 03:20 PM
English foil? GTFO NOOB.
Like Bryant said, is it even a big deal anymore to have English Foils?
It's all about Jap. Foils now, bitches.
Frenger
08-22-2008, 03:53 PM
Like Bryant said, is it even a big deal anymore to have English Foils?
It's all about Jap. Foils now, bitches.
Asian foils are yesterday fool. German is how the REAL pimps pimp.
Bryant Cook
08-22-2008, 03:54 PM
Asian foils are yesterday fool. German is how the REAL pimps pimp.
English like characters are lame. It's why I hate russian.
Nightmare
08-22-2008, 04:03 PM
I like how you guys are all like "OOOH JAP FOILS," when the Vintage guys have been doing that for years.
Whatever happened to "I HATE FOILS," Bryant? I thought if your whole deck couldn't be foil, it wasn't worth it?
Frenger
08-22-2008, 04:08 PM
English like characters are lame. It's why I hate russian.
All the names are awesome though in German, and endlessly amusing to try and pronounce. On top of that, its nice to actually be able to read the card, unlike japanese.
For me though the best language is french. Who the fuck has french foils of stuff? It makes it unique (when i play outside of france)
Bryant Cook
08-22-2008, 04:18 PM
I like how you guys are all like "OOOH JAP FOILS," when the Vintage guys have been doing that for years.
Whatever happened to "I HATE FOILS," Bryant? I thought if your whole deck couldn't be foil, it wasn't worth it?
Now, now, don't throw a hissy fit because you can't get your way. If you want to be pimp you have to work for it.
Frenger
08-22-2008, 04:21 PM
Now, now, don't throw a hissy fit because you can't get your way. If you want to be pimp you have to work for it.
Except you don't have to work at all for japanese foils. Since everyone wants them, you can get them with relative ease if you've got the money.
European foils on the other hand are much harder to come by.
Shriekmaw
08-22-2008, 04:40 PM
European foils on the other hand are much harder to come by.
Except for the fact that Jap Foils look way hotter than the European ones you can get.
Frenger
08-22-2008, 04:55 PM
Except for the fact that Jap Foils look way hotter than the European ones you can get.
To each his own. For me, something that's rarer, harder to come by, and more unique is more pimp than the cool looking japanese cards everyone has.
Wallace
08-22-2008, 04:56 PM
Like Bryant said, is it even a big deal anymore to have English Foils?
It's all about Jap. Foils now, bitches.
What happened to only using English cards Nick? If I remember correctly you were always the one who said; "I only play with English cards in tournaments because I like my opponent to be able to read my card's, it makes things easier."
Now, now, don't throw a hissy fit because you can't get your way. If you want to be pimp you have to work for it.
I..ah..no. I'll just leave that as the stupidest thing you've ever said.
Whit3 Ghost
08-22-2008, 06:14 PM
I..ah..no. I'll just leave that as the stupidest thing you've ever said.
That or the Megatron quote.
That or the Megatron quote.
TES is Megatron!....:laugh:
Solaran_X
08-22-2008, 11:27 PM
Decided to pimp 2 Land Belcher, about the cheapest competitive Legacy deck I got that I can pimp semi-easily (aside from Dragon Stompy). Picked up 3 foil Goblin Charbelchers today for $5 each, a NM Beta Bayou for $125, and I moved my 4 foil Burning Wishes from Aggro Loam to 2 Land Belcher.
Magik321
08-24-2008, 05:35 AM
Everyone has their own opinion of whats pimp. Theres no need to tell someone else how to pimp their decks. To one player japanese foils might be pimp, but another player english foils might be pimp. No need to whine and argue and to tell other players how to pimp their decks. Each and every player has their own opinions. Period.
Ebinsugewa
08-24-2008, 11:07 AM
Have any of you ever seen Portuguese foils? Yeah, that's why I like them.
yawg07
08-24-2008, 11:13 AM
Have any of you ever seen Portuguese foils? Yeah, that's why I like them.
Yes, and they are super hard to come across.
I'm still missing ALL my Portuguese Foil Giant Growths I need for my global set, and I KNOW PEOPLE IN THOSE COUNTRIES who can't find them.
Everyone has their own opinion of whats pimp. Theres no need to tell someone else how to pimp their decks. To one player japanese foils might be pimp, but another player english foils might be pimp. No need to whine and argue and to tell other players how to pimp their decks. Each and every player has their own opinions. Period.
Pfft... the new pimp is English White-Bordered.... even if you have to do it yourself.
Magik321
08-25-2008, 06:42 AM
Yes, and they are super hard to come across.
I'm still missing ALL my Portuguese Foil Giant Growths I need for my global set, and I KNOW PEOPLE IN THOSE COUNTRIES who can't find them.
I got lucky with my portuguese foil infernal contract. When my scanner gets fixed up. I'll post other stuff.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/s-chiportallands1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/s-chiportallands2.jpg
Jaiminho
08-25-2008, 11:47 AM
No one around here buys booster boxes in Portuguese. They are too fucking expensive, compared to buying stuff outside the country. I blame the taxes. In the end, everyone got English foils everywhere, but only a few Portuguese foils. I don't chase them, but I still only have stumbled upon two single good foil cards in the last year from booster packs and those were a Swans of Bryn Argoll (still got it) and that RG filter land.
Wallace
08-25-2008, 10:11 PM
I knew these were rare (http://cgi.ebay.com/MTG-Magic-Textless-Foil-Gaeas-Cradle-MISPRINT-RARE_W0QQitemZ180278442130QQihZ008QQcategoryZ218QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)but damn!!!!
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii153/bnocenti/Picture001.jpg
$1500 w/ FREE shipping...ouch.
TheAardvark
08-25-2008, 10:16 PM
Dude, if those were actually legal for tournament play, it would be even more awesome than it already is. I'd heard of those, but figured they didn't exist.
Complete hotness.
Nightmare
08-26-2008, 08:44 AM
Dude, if those were actually legal for tournament play, it would be even more awesome than it already is. I'd heard of those, but figured they didn't exist.
Complete hotness.Why wouldn't they be legal?
FredMaster
08-26-2008, 09:07 AM
Why wouldn't they be legal?
The Headjudge is a bitch?
Skeggi
08-26-2008, 09:19 AM
Why wouldn't they be legal?
Shhh! Careful, we might get another "this is tournament legal and that isn't"-discussion just like there was in Altered Art :cry:
Why wouldn't they be legal?
I think because they have no card name, but I'm not going to make any sort of judgy comment about that, just speculation. If you'd like me to check, I can :)
Nightmare
08-26-2008, 12:05 PM
I think because they have no card name, but I'm not going to make any sort of judgy comment about that, just speculation. If you'd like me to check, I can :)
I actually would, because now I'm curious. I was thinking it would fall under the same category as the foil Crystalline Slivers (Before the GP release run), where it would be legal since its an official WotC product, whether it was meant to be released or not.
Anusien
08-26-2008, 12:17 PM
The Headjudge is a bitch?
It's almost certainly legal. The art hasn't been modified at all, it's just a misprint.
Misrepresenting what it is would definitely be cheating though.
yawg07
08-26-2008, 12:25 PM
True, but I've been told before that the Textless Lightning Bolts like that would not be allowed.
Main problem, they have no name. You could easily misrepresent one to someone who doesn't know what it is.
I didn't really think "People that don't know what Lightning Bolt is", even existed!
But just the other week at our Legacy tournaments here in Wadsworth, there was a new player and I was like "EOT, Bolt your guy"
I was stopped and had to explain what Bolt was. The player was a Type 2 player, normally, but still!
ACME_Myst
08-26-2008, 12:32 PM
The same would apply to foreign cards. Noone has a problem with those, right?
TheAardvark
08-26-2008, 01:53 PM
I would assume that a card not having a name at all would make it illegal for tournament play, which would actually make sense.
I always forget that the DCI caters to drooling mongoloids by making the name of a card irrelevant as long as the picture is recognizable.
My apologies.
Nightmare
08-26-2008, 02:00 PM
I always forget that the DCI caters to drooling mongoloids by making the name of a card irrelevant as long as the picture is recognizable.
Well, them and all the people who play this game and, you know, don't speak English.
TheAardvark
08-26-2008, 02:01 PM
Well, them and all the people who play this game and, you know, don't speak English.
Those foreigners are diabolical, and you know it.
yawg07
08-26-2008, 02:02 PM
It is certainly not the only one of its kind.
Certain cards could more easily be misrepresented ...
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r81/edgarrulz/karn.jpg
But I do agree, foreign cards are about to the same effect.
I CAN read some Japanese/Euro Languages, but I'm a small percentage, lol
I know NOTHING of Korean and pretty much NO Chinese.
That being said, I bet people would call "fake" on you, though.
Anusien
08-26-2008, 02:06 PM
It's almost certainly legal. The art hasn't been modified at all, it's just a misprint.
Misrepresenting what it is would definitely be cheating though.
Sorry, I misspoke. Certain high level judges say, it's legal because the art hasn't been modified at all.
Have any of you ever seen Portuguese foils? Yeah, that's why I like them.
I have. Maybe I should post pix.
@ yawg07: Do you have the 7th edition foil one? I've been needing one in nm condition since, well, forever :(
Magik321
08-27-2008, 09:32 AM
Glad I gotten this in a trade. I traded an English foil one for this which I thought was Spanish. Turned out to be Portuguese.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/ContractoInfernal.jpg
Shtriga
08-27-2008, 12:24 PM
I live in portugal, we usually hate portuguese cards. not only, but also, because they're printed in brazil's portuguese. and they usually have ridiculous names
yawg07
08-27-2008, 12:59 PM
I live in portugal, we usually hate portuguese cards. not only, but also, because they're printed in brazil's portuguese. and they usually have ridiculous names
PM'd, maybe you can help me with my Giant Growth collection :D
@ yawg07: Do you have the 7th edition foil one? I've been needing one in nm condition since, well, forever :(
English foil 7th? Yeah I have two of them :D
Also, one German Foil 7th (Riesenwuchs)
caiomarcos
08-27-2008, 02:29 PM
Like 90% of the foils I have are in Portuguese. Most are crap, but a couple are nice, like Tendrils and TfK and a Mother of Runes.
Frenger
08-28-2008, 02:51 PM
It's been a while:
The pulse of the fields is foil although it doesn't look it.
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/pulse.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/humilities.jpg
Magik321
08-29-2008, 02:05 AM
Looking to complete the Korean playsets currently.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/koreancity.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/phyrexiandreadnought.jpg
Dark_Shakuras
08-29-2008, 02:51 AM
What language is that LED and Dreadnought?
Skeggi
08-29-2008, 02:55 AM
Dreadnought is French. LED looks Italian.
What language is that LED and Dreadnought?
Dreadnought is French
LED is Italian
BTW very nice Nought Majik, I've been having a real hard time finding foreign Noughts... Currently I'm using signed english ones... doesn't look so hot in a 90% Asian'd out deck.
yawg07
08-29-2008, 03:19 AM
*claps* Very, very nice Countersliver
Magik321
08-29-2008, 04:00 AM
Dreadnought is French
LED is Italian
BTW very nice Nought Majik, I've been having a real hard time finding foreign Noughts... Currently I'm using signed english ones... doesn't look so hot in a 90% Asian'd out deck.
Use Japanese ones!
I bought a Portuguese nought but when I received it, it was French. I did'nt mind it too.
Eddie
08-29-2008, 04:25 AM
BTW very nice Nought Majik, I've been having a real hard time finding foreign Noughts... Currently I'm using signed english ones... doesn't look so hot in a 90% Asian'd out deck.
Japanese noughts are hard to find. Took me a while to find them. I contacted a Japanese shop that bought them for me from a japanese yahoo auction. They where a lot more expensive then english ones.
http://www.kwakkelflap.com/magic/feb23.jpg
Dreadnoughts in other foreign languages are probably hard too, so respect for anyone that has them. If you ever get different noughts, I'm very interested in the signed english ones.
Frenger
08-29-2008, 05:04 AM
I can get anyone French noughts. The problem is you'd have to shell out 22-25 euro each for them.
Magik321
08-29-2008, 05:09 AM
You still could find japanese noughts now and then. But they truely are VERY expensive now.
Ebinsugewa
08-29-2008, 10:21 AM
I can get anyone French noughts. The problem is you'd have to shell out 22-25 euro each for them.
And they suck, because they're in French.
Nice CounterSliver, that seems like a pretty expensive deck to foil :cry:
Jaiminho
08-29-2008, 11:19 AM
I bought a Portuguese nought but when I received it, it was French. I did'nt mind it too.
Loles.
[images]
Is it just me or the Tops look like regular ones?
Sanguine Voyeur
08-29-2008, 11:22 AM
Is it just me or the Tops look like regular ones?They're foil.
Frenger
08-30-2008, 07:46 PM
Got all these today in addition to 1 french senseis top, 2 french meddling mages, 2 french extirpate, 1 french cunning wish, and a french dust bowl (for .50 cents wut) but nobody wants to see pics of non foils.
I like french cards, what can i say
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/chain_ETW.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/massacre_smother.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/yawgmoths.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/colossus_rit.jpg
yawg07
08-31-2008, 02:28 AM
Man, I am seriously interested in getting a French Yawg Will, Yawg Bargain, CSP Rits, list goes on.
Maybe we have to do more and more deals :D
caiomarcos
09-02-2008, 11:04 AM
So now French is the new German?
Hope it will be Portuguse time soon!
Sea R Hill
09-02-2008, 11:40 AM
Man, I am seriously interested in getting a French Yawg Will, Yawg Bargain, CSP Rits, list goes on.
Maybe we have to do more and more deals :D
I'm french so I maybe have some stuff for you.
Here's an example:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1842/planchecartesvffullek0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Nightmare
09-02-2008, 11:43 AM
Retard is like, the best card ever. I am glad I have 4.
Skeggi
09-03-2008, 04:12 AM
Retard...lol...brilliant :tongue: What deck is it played in? I HAVE to play it :cool:
Sanguine Voyeur
09-03-2008, 02:36 PM
There's a good amount of glare because I'm a poor photographer, but;
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb242/Sacul_Kamadaka/3ddd73ef.jpg
I love the fact that I recently found a home for Form of the Dragon.
jbmulder
09-04-2008, 01:31 AM
So the new foiling process doesn't prevent bending/warping?
yawg07
09-04-2008, 03:16 AM
So the new foiling process doesn't prevent bending/warping?
ROFL NO! Those suckers are curly straight out of that pack!
Every single FTV: Dragons I've seen/heard of has been extremely bent. More like FTL.
Every single FTV: Dragons I've seen/heard of has been extremely bent. More like FTL.
pwned!
Skeggi
09-04-2008, 03:48 PM
There are 15 cards and a spin-down die in this box, all with a new expansion symbol unique to this set. These dragon cards look unlike any Magic card ever printed before—they're printed on a foil stock that is twice as reflective, and treated with a varnish that gives them a very unique look. Six of the cards feature brand-new artwork.
Apparently they're not just twice as reflective, but also twice as bendy. :tongue:
That Dragon Whelp is awesomesauce though.
Daily MTG (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtgcom/feature/469b)
Sea R Hill
09-05-2008, 11:59 AM
I was impressed when I saw the price of this Dragon Set on ebay.
Then I heard that it was a very limited edition and people were struggling to find some because it's been sold out.
So... I went to my local store and bought the last two ones for 27€ each... :tongue:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3813/ftvdragonx2sc4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
bruno_tiete
09-05-2008, 12:25 PM
I live in portugal, we usually hate portuguese cards. not only, but also, because they're printed in brazil's portuguese. and they usually have ridiculous names
Just so we get this straight: Portuguese cards have stupid names. They are not "brazilian portuguese names". We brazilians also hate them. Apparently, Wizards of the Coast has never been able to get a decent translation team to Portuguese. Not only card names use words no one knows, but also they use ways of saying things that dont really work.
One strong example for this is Voidslime. Had it been Void Slime, we would have a reasonable translation, but it was decided to keep the single name word, so they just stuck things together in a word that sounds so ridiculous it became a running joke in Brazil.
Then there is a lot of blatant mistakes. Kill Switch, as far as I know, is not a Deadly Button or anything along that lines. Miren is not a Moaning State of Wellbeing. It even has a fricking fountain in the ilustration.
In short, portuguese cards have weird texts and mainly names, which happen to please neither Brazilians nor Portugueses.
Jaiminho
09-05-2008, 12:41 PM
There are also names that already have been printed on 2 different cards, such as Remand and Arrest (Aprisionar), Hibernation and Dormant Sliver (Fractius Hibernante). And some that get reprinted with different names on different sets, such as Duress (Coergir, Coerção).
caiomarcos
09-05-2008, 02:55 PM
English card names are dumb too, or is Voidslime a regular name?
Anyway, Portuguese cards are printed in PT-BR, I don't like the translations either, but they're 'pimp', or it seems so.
yawg07
09-06-2008, 03:45 AM
Well, I am working on getting TEPS 2 foiled for then new Extended.
I am doing the deck with all the nonland cards as new-frame and all the land as old-frame.
Here is my progress ...
NECESSARY CARDS
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILMindsDesire1x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILCityofBrass4x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILChromaticStar4x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILPeerThroughDepths4x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILPonder4x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILChanneltheSuns4x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILDesperateRitual4x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILManamorphose3x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILSeethingSong3x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILRiteofFlame3x.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILTendrils2xPlunge1x.jpg
I'm ~60% done with the Main, 0% of the Side.
I have 2 more DCI Desires in the mail, and am closing deals for the foil old-frame painlands.
EXCEPT Underground Rivers, I can't find 7th Edition FOIL Underground Rivers
Also have a deal pending for Manamorphose #4, Rite #4, both Warrens, and the second Plunge.
If anyone can help me, don't hesitate to PM!
Aj-capra
09-06-2008, 06:32 AM
This is my TES now:
4 x Gemstone Mine (WL // 2 japanese + 2 chinese) <-- I must buy 2 jap
4 x City of Brass (8th ed. foil)
1 x Undiscovered Paradise (japanese)
1 x Forbidden Orchard (chinese) <-- I must buy jap
4 x Simian Spirit Guide (foil) <-- I must buy foil jap
4 x Orim's Chant (japanese)
4 x Dark Ritual (MM foil // 2 italian + 2 english)
4 x Led (english) <-- I must but a playset german
4 x Burning Wish (japanese)
4 x Brainstorm (coldsnap theme decks japanese)
2 x Ponder (japanese signed by tedin)
3 x Chrome Mox (2 chinese + 1 japanese) <-- I must buy 2 jap
1 x Ill-Gotten Gains (japanese)
4 x Rite of Flame (japanese)
1 x Toa (japanese)
1 x Etw (japanese)
4 x Lotus Petal (japanese)
4 x Infernal Tutor (japanese)
1 x Slithermuse (chinese) <-- I've just buy jap
3 x Thoughtseize (chinese) <-- I must buy jap
1 x Diminishing Returns (alliances german)
1 x Lat-Nam's Legacy (coldsnap theme decks english) <-- I must buy jap
my sb:
2 x Echoing Truth (japanese)
3 x Pyroblast (ice age german)
1 x Toa (japanese)
1 x Etw (japanese)
1 x Diminishing Returns (alliances german)
1 x Ill-Gotten Gains (japanese)
1 x Cleanfall (foil english) <-- I must buy foil jap
3 x Spree (japanese)
1 x Pyroclasm (portal 1 chinese signed in sliver)
2 x Susher (chinese)
I've all japanese for belcher, too!!!
Spectör
09-06-2008, 06:45 AM
There are also names that already have been printed on 2 different cards, such as Remand and Arrest (Aprisionar), Hibernation and Dormant Sliver (Fractius Hibernante). And some that get reprinted with different names on different sets, such as Duress (Coergir, Coerção).
We've got that problem in Germany, too.
Vertigo and Dizzy Spell are both translated "Schwindelanfall". Breath of Life and Touch of Vitae are both translated "Lebenshauch".
Also, in Shards of Alara, the creature type Hellion suddenly means Teufelsbraten (which is actually the more fitting translation) instead of Raupe (kinda...caterpillar), like every hellion before.
That's dumb.
Magik321
09-07-2008, 12:54 PM
28 foil crystalline slivers. Yes they are for sale too.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/crystallinesliver.jpg
TrialByFire
09-07-2008, 11:51 PM
Somebody alert Pinder STAT :eek:
Poesjuh
09-08-2008, 04:43 AM
Nice :) To bad the market price for foil crystallines these days are not so high anymore.
Magik321
09-09-2008, 01:40 AM
Some test prints I have.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/TestPrintKarpuslanForest.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/TestPrintGenesisCityofBrass.jpg
The Rack
09-09-2008, 02:01 AM
How and where do you get those?
Skeggi
09-09-2008, 04:14 AM
I still can't believe how fugly those things are o.O
Mirrislegend
09-09-2008, 12:17 PM
Nice :) To bad the market price for foil crystallines these days are not so high anymore.
Really? What price is that? I can only find them at 15 a pop, which seems plenty expensive for a non-staple.
Poesjuh
09-09-2008, 12:24 PM
Really? What price is that? I can only find them at 15 a pop, which seems plenty expensive for a non-staple.
If you compare it to at what cost that came at the market, 15 is a bargain.
montanhas18
09-09-2008, 01:05 PM
Just so we get this straight: Portuguese cards have stupid names. They are not "brazilian portuguese names". We brazilians also hate them. Apparently, Wizards of the Coast has never been able to get a decent translation team to Portuguese. Not only card names use words no one knows, but also they use ways of saying things that dont really work.
One strong example for this is Voidslime. Had it been Void Slime, we would have a reasonable translation, but it was decided to keep the single name word, so they just stuck things together in a word that sounds so ridiculous it became a running joke in Brazil.
Then there is a lot of blatant mistakes. Kill Switch, as far as I know, is not a Deadly Button or anything along that lines. Miren is not a Moaning State of Wellbeing. It even has a fricking fountain in the ilustration.
In short, portuguese cards have weird texts and mainly names, which happen to please neither Brazilians nor Portugueses.
Just for the record WotC never tried to use Portuguese-Brazilian translators for the cards. Even when it had a full translation team for each language (I should know, I worked in the Portuguese-Brazilian one). They only used the team for documents (judge's test, FAQs, etc).
IIRC what they FINALLY decided to do to cut back on the idiotic mistakes was have a L3 judge review the translation. They gave the job to a Brazilian judge (obviously, much bigger market) called Svaldi. Great guy, great judge, I'm sure he did - and is doing - a great job. I'm also sure he would only touch card texts.
He probably won't fix card names, flavor texts, etc. From what I heard giving him the job was a good idea. On the first set he worked they had changed translation companies and the card texts were all messed up. Even old stuff like "first strike" or something has the remainder text totally wrong.
I don't know who does the card names, or the flavor texts. What I DO know is that it's a VERY tough job. I did it for another card game and I call tell you it's very, very hard.
Try this for size: translating the amazing card name "No Rest For The Wicked". Now check out how each language did it: http://magiccards.info/10e/165.html
As for Voidslime... you might want to check out the Italian and Spanish version. And remember the translator has to follow rules for each set and card.
As for what turns into a running joke... I spent ten years hearing Portuguese players joke about "card" and "deck" not being translated in Portuguese-Brazilian. Well, it turns out it's because Brazilian law doesn't find it kosher.
Pinder
09-09-2008, 01:17 PM
Somebody alert Pinder STAT :eek:
Consider me alerted. Magik, what do you want?
Bryant Cook
09-09-2008, 03:56 PM
I want 4 of those Cities.
The Rack
09-09-2008, 06:04 PM
How and where do you get those?
Wallace
09-09-2008, 06:26 PM
I want 4 of those Cities.
It's to bad there not tournament legal, they have white backs.
kicks_422
09-09-2008, 06:32 PM
Why do all the test prints have Judgment symbols on them? And how much is the fair price of Foil Crystallines? They're selling really low here.
Magik321
09-10-2008, 01:58 AM
I sold off all 28 Foil Slivers already at $15 each. I might be able to get more. though.
I got the genesis and city of brass test prints via a private deal.
Just for the record WotC never tried to use Portuguese-Brazilian translators for the cards. Even when it had a full translation team for each language (I should know, I worked in the Portuguese-Brazilian one). They only used the team for documents (judge's test, FAQs, etc).
IIRC what they FINALLY decided to do to cut back on the idiotic mistakes was have a L3 judge review the translation. They gave the job to a Brazilian judge (obviously, much bigger market) called Svaldi. Great guy, great judge, I'm sure he did - and is doing - a great job. I'm also sure he would only touch card texts.
He probably won't fix card names, flavor texts, etc. From what I heard giving him the job was a good idea. On the first set he worked they had changed translation companies and the card texts were all messed up. Even old stuff like "first strike" or something has the remainder text totally wrong.
I don't know who does the card names, or the flavor texts. What I DO know is that it's a VERY tough job. I did it for another card game and I call tell you it's very, very hard.
Try this for size: translating the amazing card name "No Rest For The Wicked". Now check out how each language did it: http://magiccards.info/10e/165.html
As for Voidslime... you might want to check out the Italian and Spanish version. And remember the translator has to follow rules for each set and card.
As for what turns into a running joke... I spent ten years hearing Portuguese players joke about "card" and "deck" not being translated in Portuguese-Brazilian. Well, it turns out it's because Brazilian law doesn't find it kosher.
No offense, but how do I get your former job?
Voce tem MSN? Queria te perguntar uns bagulhos, relacionados a erros de traducao no passado :p
montanhas18
09-10-2008, 11:34 AM
No offense, but how do I get your former job?
Voce tem MSN? Queria te perguntar uns bagulhos, relacionados a erros de traducao no passado :p
No offense taken, obviously :smile:
How I got my job... I started writing for Mindripper, then started doing even coverage for WotC, then started writing for Star City, then started writing for Sideboard, then wrote - for free - for a PT Magic magazine... then the translation chief decided he wanted a PT guy in the PT-BR translation work...
No MSN, sorry. I'm at work most of the day... I'm AMAZED they haven't blocked these foruns as well. I'll try to PM you my home e-mail.
sadface
09-10-2008, 01:37 PM
The foiled part of my Spring Tide deck. Cards are for sale. Make me an offer I can't refuse!
http://i34.tinypic.com/msn9r4.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2hek3gp.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/k4i2qf.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/f516h1.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2jf10mt.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/dpy1j4.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/o59jmh.jpg
Just add some foiled Brainstorms and you're good to go.
Also, if you happen to own a playset of signed Turnabouts, send me a PM.
I know it has the gross FNM stamp but this one actually looks cool. November's FNM promo (October is Serrated Arrows).
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6144/isochronscepterfnmfv8.jpg
n00bas4urus_r3x
09-10-2008, 06:59 PM
A resounding "Meh" on the art.
jbmulder
09-10-2008, 07:27 PM
Man, I really like that art. Too bad about the FNM stamp...
Pinder
09-10-2008, 07:42 PM
I'm going to go ahead and give a thumbs down to the art. If it was a close up version of the same scepter from the original art, maybe, but I think this new scepter looks dumb.
Aj-capra
09-15-2008, 08:37 AM
I'm just return from GP Rimini and I bought this cards.
1 x Street Wraith (foil french)
2 x Simian Spirit Guide (foil french)
3 x Ponder (foil french)
2 x Overmaster (foil french)
4 x Elvish Spirit Guide (french)
1 x Echoing Ruin (foil french)
1 x Manamorphose (foil french)
1 x Reverent Silence (foil french)
1 x Echoing Truth (foil french)
3 x Goblin Chalbelcher (foil french)
LED in french $34.00 each and buy theme is very expensive for me!!!
Skeggi
09-15-2008, 08:50 AM
As usual, pics or it didn't happen! And yeah, that scepter is fugly.
Aj-capra
09-15-2008, 09:19 AM
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4357/p1000143nc6.th.jpg (http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000143nc6.jpg)
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7894/p1000141lf3.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000141lf3.jpg)
pics for you!!!
Skeggi
09-15-2008, 09:54 AM
I'm sorry, but I'm lazy:
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4357/p1000143nc6.jpg
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7894/p1000141lf3.jpg
Your focus-skill sucks by the way :tongue:
Frenger
09-15-2008, 01:00 PM
I'm just return from GP Rimini and I bought this cards.
1 x Street Wraith (foil french)
2 x Simian Spirit Guide (foil french)
3 x Ponder (foil french)
2 x Overmaster (foil french)
4 x Elvish Spirit Guide (french)
1 x Echoing Ruin (foil french)
1 x Manamorphose (foil french)
1 x Reverent Silence (foil french)
1 x Echoing Truth (foil french)
3 x Goblin Chalbelcher (foil french)
LED in french $34.00 each and buy theme is very expensive for me!!!
What did the echoing truth cost you? I saw them at 5 euros each in paris, but i passed thinking it was a bit high. Same on the ponders. I passed on 8 euros each.
In other news, i got a french BB underground sea last weekend, but i can't deliver pics until saturday.
Aj-capra
09-15-2008, 01:13 PM
What did the echoing truth cost you? I saw them at 5 euros each in paris, but i passed thinking it was a bit high. Same on the ponders. I passed on 8 euros each.
In other news, i got a french BB underground sea last weekend, but i can't deliver pics until saturday.
1 x Street Wraith (foil french) buyed 2 euros
2 x Simian Spirit Guide (foil french) buyed 3 euros each
3 x Ponder (foil french) buyed 5 euros each
2 x Overmaster (foil french) buyed 3 euros each
4 x Elvish Spirit Guide (french) buyed 12 euros all
1 x Echoing Ruin (foil french) buyed 6 euros
1 x Manamorphose (foil french) buyed 2 euros
1 x Reverent Silence (foil french) buyed 5 euros
1 x Echoing Truth (foil french) buyed 5 euros
3 x Goblin Chalbelcher (foil french) buyed 8 euros each
The price of ponder foil (italian language) on Italy is 9/10 euros each.
PS : Frenger you know stores on-line where I can buy french cards??
Dan Turner
09-15-2008, 01:33 PM
Only cool french stuff i have is:
4x Revised? BB Kird Apes
4x Revised? BB Llanowar Elves
4x Ice Age Counterspell
1x Mox Diamond
2x Homelands Merchant Scroll
4x Ice Age Dark Ritual
Frenger
09-16-2008, 10:30 AM
PS : Frenger you know stores on-line where I can buy french cards??
Magiccorporation.com but theyre quite overpriced. Occasionally there are good deals (french foil cabal ritual for 3 euro XD) but generally it's not worth it.
Fuzzy
09-16-2008, 12:05 PM
3 x Ponder (foil french) buyed 5 euros each
1 x Echoing Ruin (foil french) buyed 6 euros
1 x Echoing Truth (foil french) buyed 5 euros
There's something wrong here...
Aj-capra
09-16-2008, 01:05 PM
There's something wrong here...
I'm sorry but I payed it 2 euros -.-""
Poesjuh
09-17-2008, 05:23 PM
Got some new scans considering my MP deck, and also a scan of the first cards from my EDH deck that I've got so far. (Including a foil Demonic Tutor for example :))
EDH - So Far
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/EDHPimp.jpg
Normal MP Deck
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp1.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp2.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp3.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp4.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp5.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp6.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp7.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp8.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp9.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp10.jpg
Poesjuh
09-17-2008, 05:24 PM
Part deux
From the FOIL Powder Keg (previous post, last scan) and further the cards are my "sideboard". Basically the cards that didn't make it into the deck, therefore being my sideboard for the wishes that I play. The amount is not legal, but no one in casual really bothers.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp11.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp12.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/MPPimp13.jpg
Some duals, I've got all 40 of them, but these I use in my deck except for 1 Underground Sea (only got 1 in the deck atm).
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/DSC_0025.jpg
Dark_Cynic87
09-17-2008, 06:56 PM
Where's a good place to buy Japanese/Korean cards on the internet besides Ebay (I'm not a patient man...waiting a week just doesn't do if for me, and I swear if I get outbid at the last second one more time because my !@#$%&* internet is slower than the other guy's, I'm going to throw my computer at something...)? I'm looking to non-foil pimp my FT list. Maybe my 4c Landstill list as well, but I need to know:
--Are FBB or Beta duals more "pimp"?
--If FBB, which languages were they printed in and which one is most sought after?
--Is Japanese still the most expensive language? I find it to be a LOT prettier than French. Chinese I'm not fond of, but I LOVE Korean. I may do it in Korean, but I need to know what sets were/are printed in Korean. Any opinions?
I'm not doing foil because a.) the cards seem to bend due to what, temperature fluctuation? I can't deal with that, and b.) Not all the cards I want are foil, and I'm a freak that way. All or None.
All foil + duals = not possible. Therefore no foil...
Thx for your help, and sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, but I gave it my best shot.
Pce,
--DC
marit
09-17-2008, 07:25 PM
--Is Japanese still the most expensive language? I find it to be a LOT prettier than French. Chinese I'm not fond of, but I LOVE Korean. I may do it in Korean, but I need to know what sets were/are printed in Korean. Any opinions?
Thx for your help, and sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this, but I gave it my best shot.
Pce,
--DC
For Korean cards, Ebay and Flea Markets are your only hope. I love how the language looks, but it's hard to find. The first set printed in Korean was Visions, and the last Urza's Saga, which puts Fourth Edition and Fifth Edition in Korean also. 4th Korean is BB, which mainly includes BoP and Dark Ritual. Fifth is WB. This means Korean Foil doesn't exist, and really no deck can be fully Korean. Hope that helps some.
--Are FBB or Beta duals more "pimp"?
--DC
I think that is personal.
In my oppinion, Beta is more pimp, but I know others like FBB more, esspecially when they have them all in 1 language.
For me, pimping a deck means getting all cards english foil, for cards not available in foil the oldest version of the card and Unlimited Duals.
I like them unlimited because the coloring is way better than the revised versions, and I like to be able to search fast for my duals. Making them the only white bordered cards in my deck really helps. I never had any Beta duals however, so I don't know the difference. However, I think I'd still prefer Unlimited.
In the end, pimping is building and collecting a deck in the way you like it. I want to feel good when playing a deck, I'm not playing a deck to impress my opponent. Blinding them into playmistakes is always cool, but really an urban legend.
I'd stick to a certain theme however. When going foreign, stay to 1 language. I personally hate decks which are totally asian, but have japanese, korean and chinese cards in it.
marit
09-17-2008, 08:31 PM
I'd stick to a certain theme however. When going foreign, stay to 1 language. I personally hate decks which are totally asian, but have japanese, korean and chinese cards in it.
The only problem with that is that it's almost impossible. Japanese is the only asian language that's been in print since Mirage, Korean died in Saga, as did T Chinese, which is when S chinese started, I think. I like the variety of asian languages in one deck, it makes it more interesting than staring at fairly simular characters the whole time.
Dark_Cynic87
09-18-2008, 04:29 AM
I like the idea about fetching duals. I do hate the lousy color job on RV, so I think I will stick with WB duals. That's awesome. Also, damn the inconsistant nature of language in the realm of M:tG. That sux. Oh well, I guess...Korean out. Japanese in. Was Weatherlight printed in Japanese then? I'm not good at remembering the order sets were released. I've got tons of cards memorized down to their flavor-texts and who the artists were, but the order is what screws me up. I need D-Days in Japanese. I know that they were printed in 6th ed., but I'd rather have WL ones. Also, was 6th ed. printed with BB in Japanese (or at all)? I can't say that I've ever even seen a 6th ed. Japanese card...Thx again.
I'll be Asianing out DDFT, and I'll put up scans when I get done. Fetches, IA Brainstorms, Ponders, and LEDs are gonna suck. Oh well, 'tis life.
Pce,
--DC
yawg07
09-18-2008, 12:17 PM
I know I've got a pic somewhere ...
YES!
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/Dreturns.jpg
Japanese 6th edition is very real.
They ONLY do BB for base sets when it is the first set in a particular language. (or it is Xth edition)
BB English - Alpha/Beta
BB Italian - Revised
BB French - Revised
BB German - Revised
BB Spanish - 4th
BB Portuguese - 4th
BB Japanese - 4th
BB T-Chinese - 4th
BB S-Chinese - See below
BB Korean - 4th
BB Russian - 9th
Very sadly, BB S-Chinese was neglected, it would have been 5th Edition.
English Sets - All, Fallen Empires is only English, Starter is only English, Un-sets are only English, ONE Salvat deck (rats)
Italian Sets - Legends and up, Revised and up, Salvat
French Sets - Ice Age and up, Revised and up, Salvat
German Sets - Ice Age and up, Revised and up
Spanish Sets - Ice Age and up, 4th and up, Salvat
Portuguese Sets - Ice Age and up, 4th and up
Japanese Sets - Mirage and up, 4th and up
T-Chinese Sets - Tempest/Saga/MM/Invasion/Odyssey/Onslaught BLOCKS, Mirrodin (not DST or 5DN), Portal 1, P3K, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th
S-Chinese Sets - Urza's Saga (not UL or UD), Invasion and up, 5th and up, Portal 1, P3K
Korean Sets - 4th, 5th, Visions, Weatherlight, Tempest, Stronghold, Exodus, Urza's Saga (yes, that's it)
Russian Sets - Ravnica and up, 9th and up (Coldsnap was NOT printed in Russian)
Wizards has lots of blunders in the language section.
For whatever reason, FE was only English, it should have Italian, too.
They skipped their ritual of a BB set for S-Chi 5th.
Korean was practically "sprinkled" around on the set list.
PO2 had no Chinese, but PO1 and P3K did, and then Starter dropped foreign languages all together.
Coldsnap was inexplicably skipped in Russian, and the Special Theme Decks weren't printed in Chinese.
Two sets in magic have 10 languages (5th and Saga)
This is really annoying for people who collect all of a certain card that happens to be in one of those sets. (9-pocket binders)
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/JanValentine00/Pimp%20cards/GEDC0069.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/JanValentine00/Pimp%20cards/GEDC0071.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/JanValentine00/Pimp%20cards/GEDC0074.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/JanValentine00/Pimp%20cards/GEDC0075.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/JanValentine00/Pimp%20cards/GEDC0078.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/JanValentine00/Pimp%20cards/GEDC0081.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/JanValentine00/Pimp%20cards/GEDC0082.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/JanValentine00/Pimp%20cards/GEDC0084.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k208/JanValentine00/Pimp%20cards/GEDC0086.jpg
There hasn't been enough new pimp stuff in here, so here's some of my Pimp Stuff.
Nice, nice, J.V.
I never saw russian Ponders before, but I like my japanese ones better. I will post a picture of my Threshold variants as soon as I get my STifles (I finally got a playset of asian ones on ebay. The 15 Dollar shipping to Germany sucked, though).
Well, I got these goodies recently from my most favourite japo-card-dealer Richard:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3238/japanesemoonsip8.jpg
The stupid thing is that I only bought these because I found them cool, I actually have no need for them (except the Magi because I now have a good Survival-cardpool) . But I guess I now have a good reason to try MoonThresh, lolz. My cellphone cam is better than expected, tho.
mogote
09-18-2008, 01:39 PM
--Are FBB or Beta duals more "pimp"?
--If FBB, which languages were they printed in and which one is most sought after?
I would assume that most players prefer Beta. What I like about GermanBB duals is that the print quality seems to be better and that the details in the artworks seem to be a little more visible. Also, I think that the Drew Tucker art for Plateau looks better.
Yeah I have a set of Japanese Ponders at home but this is just stuff I have here at school with me. Also beautiful Blood Moons!
As for the Dual land Hierarchy:
Beta Duals
Alpha Duals
German BB
French BB
Italian BB
Unlimited
Rev/FWB Duals
Dark_Cynic87
09-18-2008, 02:02 PM
So was Weatherlight printed in Japanese?
I'm going to do this:
-Get Japanese of everything I can for what I'm needing.
-Get Unlimited Duals as I like that they are the only WB cards in my deck.
I need Doomsday blackborder but pimped. If it's not printed Japanese Weatherlight, is Japanese WB 6th my only option? If I have to go another language I will for it to be FBB. Suggestions? Would it be cool to have a 6th ed. Japanese one with the borders sharpie'ed? I've heard of some people doing that...
I suck at this "pimping" stuff out...
Pce,
--DC
Mirrislegend
09-18-2008, 02:05 PM
As for the Dual land Hierarchy:
Beta Duals
Alpha Duals
WTF? Why that order?
caiomarcos
09-18-2008, 02:16 PM
What are those Moons? Japanese Chronicles? Why are they BB? Isn't the first Japanese set 4th?
@ DC87
I use this site to check the language a set is printed in.
http://www.magiclibrarities.net/sets-mirage-block.html
What are those Moons? Japanese Chronicles? Why are they BB? Isn't the first Japanese set 4th?
Japanese Chronicles.
J.V.'s Tormod's Crypt are also japanese Chronicles.
yawg07
09-18-2008, 02:45 PM
@Dark_Cynic87
I posted that huge list for a reason! lol
Japanese Sets - Mirage and up, 4th and up
Weatherlight is included in "Mirage and up" (set order is Mirage/Visions/Weatherlight)
Oh yes, I'm not sure what to count it as (mistake or not) but Japanese Chronicles WAS BB, and it also does NOT exist in any other languages besides ENG WB.
German/French/Italian got Renaissance, and Spanish/Portuguese/Chinese/Korean got the shaft.
Oh yes, I'm not sure what to count it as (mistake or not) but Japanese Chronicles WAS BB, and it also does NOT exist in any other languages besides ENG WB.
German/French/Italian got Renaissance, and Spanish/Portuguese/Chinese/Korean got the shaft.
That's correct.
Wallace
09-18-2008, 04:50 PM
I just picked up 2 Rolling Earthquakes for under $40 each (1 Japanese, 1 Chinese). I am trying to pic up a 3rd but all that is available are English ones, they're twice as expensive. Is English P3K worth more than Asian P3K or did I just get a really good deal?
jazzykat
09-18-2008, 04:54 PM
My guess is that you just got a really good deal!
English had a smaller print run than Chinese or Japanese, so it's much rarer.
I just picked up 2 Rolling Earthquakes for under $40 each (1 Japanese, 1 Chinese). I am trying to pic up a 3rd but all that is available are English ones, they're twice as expensive. Is English P3K worth more than Asian P3K or did I just get a really good deal?
English > Asian. I know, surprising.
yawg07
09-18-2008, 05:14 PM
My guess is that you just got a really good deal!
Right and wrong! :D
Good deal? Yes, right now I'd count $40 each on Rolling Earthquakes of any language as a good price.
But as a guess to the Asian vs. English values ...
English P3K is certainly more valuable than Asian P3K.
Two reasons:
1. Production quantities. English P3K is in much shorter supply than its Asian breed.
P3K goes (most scarce to least scarce) ... English, T-Chinese, Japanese, S-Chinese ... at least to my knowledge.
2. Readability. More than half the people you run into have no knowledge of what any of the P3K stuff is.
Er go, it is easiest to have a copy they can just read.
English had a smaller print run than Chinese or Japanese, so it's much rarer.
This is the wonderfull exception where english can be considered more pimp that any asian language :)
Lifeless
09-18-2008, 06:30 PM
WTF? Why that order?
Mint Beta cards are harder to come by, the were more often played due to being printed second and also having the standard boarder so they were not considered marked like Alpha when playing without sleeves. So long story short there are few mint or NM Beta cards out there, so they have held their value. Also, Alpha Volcanic Islands don't exist, so Beta Volcanics are the only option for English BB.
Wigglytuff_Rimjob
09-18-2008, 06:41 PM
Mint Beta cards are harder to come by, the were more often played due to being printed second and also having the standard boarder so they were not considered marked like Alpha when playing without sleeves. So long story short there are few mint or NM Beta cards out there, so they have held their value. Also, Alpha Volcanic Islands don't exist, so Beta Volcanics are the only option for English BB.
Well from a collectors standpoint, Mint Alpha cards are actually harder to come by than Beta because of the quality control, which a lot worse in Alpha than Beta. This leads to there being very few of some Alpha cards PSA 9-10 out there, as a result of poor centering and other poor printing qualities from the original print run.
@ Wiggly
I would get beta over alpha because it is darker. Makes the art look more cool to me.
goobafish
09-18-2008, 07:34 PM
You can also get full Beta duals, where you can't have all Alpha Duals, because of Volcs.
Sea R Hill
09-18-2008, 08:14 PM
Alpha Print Run: 2,6 M
Beta Print Run: 10,4 M
Alpha=4xBeta
==> Alpha > Beta
No Comment:wink:
goobafish
09-21-2008, 10:38 AM
Alright, some newer stuff, and I don't think I have posted my deck before.
Deck
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/3808/5e4a55ceb0b16ac6d993a1450bc9c485.jpg
Sideboard
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/3808/863e7695fe9259271d5e74b0c570abef.jpg
New Stuff
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/3808/04f59c26c1d6101b932b29365f08816b.jpg
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/3808/48ead88784e395a710b8f7e7b3b13787.jpg
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/3808/e2e511025297c0e15f80151da1822676.jpg
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/3808/775d2334e5712d44f8106aa84539dde7.jpg
Also, I don't care that this is a legacy forum, I am just so happy to finish my beta power set!
http://images4.hiboox.com/images/3808/3d6f42680120c514b5d7b69d9a0a24e4.jpg
That Thresh deck looks really nice. Are do you want to keep those bolts Beat, or are you also going to foil them out? For some reason I really dig foil Lightning Bolts.
goobafish
09-21-2008, 02:04 PM
That Thresh deck looks really nice. Are do you want to keep those bolts Beat, or are you also going to foil them out? For some reason I really dig foil Lightning Bolts.
I will probably pick up foils, and keep both, just to see which looks better :P.
caiomarcos
09-21-2008, 02:07 PM
http://lh3.ggpht.com/caiomarcos/SNaMzn-WTFI/AAAAAAAADLI/jPl9YiYbeMg/s640/IMG_1715.jpg
There are other 3 signed and some 30 others normal. I'm looking for more.
sadface
09-21-2008, 02:08 PM
I can't help but notice that one of your Pithing Needles is from 10th while the other is from Saviors.
How do you live with yourself?
goobafish
09-21-2008, 02:23 PM
I can't help but notice that one of your Pithing Needles is from 10th while the other is from Saviors.
How do you live with yourself?
It's hard to sleep at night...
Mirrislegend
09-22-2008, 10:32 AM
Pimp pics
:eek: I CAME :eek:
EDIT:
@Atwa: Foil Lightning Bolts exist? Can someone send me a link to such awesomeness?
@sadface: How can you tell that they're from different sets?
Skeggi
09-22-2008, 10:36 AM
@Atwa: Foil Lightning Bolts exist? Can someone send me a link to such awesomeness?
Hey! Look! It's the Google Image searcher!
http://www.bonusbert.de/images/cards/promos/foil_lightning_bolt.jpg
It's a judge gift.
Nightmare
09-22-2008, 10:46 AM
Dave, no Beta duals? Come on now...
goobafish
09-22-2008, 10:51 AM
Dave, no Beta duals? Come on now...
Beta Power THEN Beta Duals, there is a hierarchy :P. I am gonna start working on it, but as a student, funds are limited.
Nightmare
09-22-2008, 10:54 AM
Beta Power THEN Beta Duals, there is a hierarchy :P. I am gonna start working on it, but as a student, funds are limited.
The trick is to get a high-paying job and live without a car for three years.
Pimpin ain't easy, but it's good to me.
Also, and again, I remember when a bunch of those cards were mine ;).
Edit - Why Beta REBs? You need to rock the misprinted Alpha ones!
goobafish
09-22-2008, 10:57 AM
Edit - Why Beta REBs? You need to rock the misprinted Alpha ones!
I don't do Alpha. I like consistency, so I have everything Beta if I can.
KillemallCFH
09-22-2008, 12:42 PM
@sadface: How can you tell that they're from different sets?The wording is different, which you can tell by looking at the photo.
Skeggi
09-22-2008, 01:22 PM
Less chat, more pics. Anyway, I'm working on pimping my stax, unfortunately I often change the composition of it, so I have alot of pimp cards that sort-of belong in stax but aren't in my current build. Anyway, here's a piccie:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9158/staxfa4.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/2788/stax2on7.jpg
Everything is either foil or asian. Except for a Spanish Armageddon and an English Ravages of War. Oh, and the EURO, APAC and beta land ofcourse.
Poesjuh
09-22-2008, 02:04 PM
Looks good :) Although I think that you should find 2 UL Defense Grids instead of the two from 8th/9th edition. Also I really dislike DCI Exalted Angels, but that's just me ^^
Gambit
09-23-2008, 05:43 PM
Pimp is in the eye of the beholder: Extended white border TEPS
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/171/teps2iw8.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teps2iw8.jpg)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2128/teps1vu9.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teps1vu9.jpg)
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3370/desirelt9.th.jpg (http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desirelt9.jpg)
to keep it legacy:
STAX lands:
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7320/factorieslx2.th.jpg (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=factorieslx2.jpg)
Thats awesome, I've been thinking of WBing Ichorid.
Wallace
09-23-2008, 06:24 PM
:eek: I CAME :eek:
EDIT:
@Atwa: Foil Lightning Bolts exist? Can someone send me a link to such awesomeness?
@sadface: How can you tell that they're from different sets?
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj319/Wally891/BoltMancer.jpg
Foil bolts are hot!
Pimp is in the eye of the beholder: Extended white border TEPS
Did you use Acetone or the art erasers? I've been trying to determine which would be better for WB-ing Ichorid and have wanted to do Affinity for quite a while, I just haven't gotten the ambition to get it done yet.
Gambit
09-23-2008, 07:24 PM
Did you use Acetone or the art erasers? I've been trying to determine which would be better for WB-ing Ichorid and have wanted to do Affinity for quite a while, I just haven't gotten the ambition to get it done yet.
Taped off with an eraser. I had bad luck with acetone. Try a few different erasers, some work much better than others. The one I ended up using was a 2 color one that was half grey and half white, only the gray side worked well. I'd tell you the brand, but It rubbed off a while ago.
The Rack
09-23-2008, 08:08 PM
Wallace: Where did you get those and how much?
Wallace
09-23-2008, 08:32 PM
Wallace: Where did you get those and how much?
They were a judges promo and run anywhere from $75-$95 a set, I got mine for $80. You should be able to find them on ebay.
Magik321
10-02-2008, 01:16 PM
Cruel Bargains for the Spanish Inquisition players. I've got more English ones lying around
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/CruelBargain-2.jpg
Happy Gilmore
10-02-2008, 01:49 PM
Check back on page 12 or something, my UGR Thresh deck had 4x foil bolts.
Maagler
10-02-2008, 04:15 PM
Thats awesome, I've been thinking of WBing Ichorid.
I was thinking the same thing. The only thing holding me back is the Lion's Eye Diamonds.
Bryant Cook
10-02-2008, 05:08 PM
I was thinking the same thing. The only thing holding me back is the Lion's Eye Diamonds.
Oh noes! Not cards worth 15 dollars at the most! My deck > Almost every deck posted on here. <3 Jap Foil. That's cash money.
Nightmare
10-02-2008, 05:21 PM
Oh noes! Not cards worth 15 dollars at the most! My deck > Almost every deck posted on here. <3 Jap Foil. That's cash money.
Still have you beat. Beta duals > Jap foil.
Still have you beat. Beta duals > Jap foil.
yups.
dahcmai
10-03-2008, 01:45 AM
I'll be posting something soon.
Almost done with the first set of Three Kingdoms. English no less.
Ebinsugewa
10-03-2008, 03:06 AM
Still have you beat. Beta duals > Jap foil.
Especially when you're Jap foiling cards that suck, like Infernal Contract and Rite of Flame.
Magik321
10-03-2008, 06:05 AM
Rite of Flame in Japanese foil are easy to find. Infernal Contract is crazy. Some players know that I'm doing a global set of Contracts including foils, I still cannot locate a normal Jap foil piece yet, only Jap foil one I have is square cornered. I've just acquired a german foil piece thats incoming to me right now.
Ophidian
10-03-2008, 09:19 AM
Still have you beat. Beta duals > Jap foil.
Pimpin' ain't easy
Aj-capra
10-07-2008, 03:40 PM
My tes now:
// Lands
4 [8E] City of Brass (foil english 8th edition)
4 [WL] Gemstone Mine (wl japanese)
1 [VI] Undiscovered Paradise (japanese)
1 [CHK] Forbidden Orchard (japanese)
// Creatures
2 [PLC] Simian Spirit Guide (foil french)
// Spells
4 [TE] Lotus Petal (japanese)
4 [DIS] Infernal Tutor (japanese)
2 [TO] Cabal Ritual (foil french)
3 [ALA] Ad Nauseam (english) <-- I'll buy japanese or foil french
2 [SHM] Manamorphose (foil french)
4 [PS] Orim's Chant (japanese)
4 [CS] Rite of Flame (japanese)
4 [MM] Dark Ritual (foil - 2 english + 1 french + 1 italian) <-- I'll buy 3 foil french
2 [MR] Chrome Mox (japanese)
4 [CST] Brainstorm (coldsnap japanese)
3 [LRW] Ponder (foil french)
1 [SC] Tendrils of Agony (japanese) <--- I'll buy foil french
1 [US] Ill-Gotten Gains (japanese)
4 [JU] Burning Wish (japanese)
4 [MI] Lion's Eye Diamond (1 french + 3 english) <-- I'll buy 3 french
2 [LRW] Thoughtseize (chinese) <-- I'll buy japanese or foil french
// Sideboard
SB: 1 [SC] Tendrils of Agony (japanese) <-- I'll buy foil french
SB: 1 [US] Ill-Gotten Gains (japanese)
SB: 2 [SHM] Vexing Shusher (japanese)
SB: 1 [TSP] Empty the Warrens (japanese) <-- I'll buy foil french
SB: 1 [AL] Diminishing Returns (alliances german)
SB: 1 [CHK] Cleanfall (foil french)
SB: 2 [IA] Pyroblast (ice age german)
SB: 1 [TSP] Grapeshot (foil japanese)
SB: 2 [GP] Shattering Spree (japanese)
SB: 1 [DS] Echoing Ruin (foil french)
SB: 1 [PT] Pyroclasm (portal 1°age chinese signed)
SB: 1 [CS] Deathmark (foil french)
Cards for belcher:
4 x Spoils of the Vault (2 foil chinese + 2 foil english)
4 x Land Grant (japanese)
4 x Esg (french)
4 x Tinder Wall (coldsnap japanese)
4 x Goblin Chalbelcher (foil french)
4 x Chrome Mox (2 japanese + 2 chinese)
2 x Defense Grid (urza's legacy japanese)
4 x Manamorphose (foil french)
4 x Ssg (foil french)
4 x Street Wraith (1 foil french + 3 japanese)
1 x Goblin War Strike (portal)
4 x Xantid Swarm (japanese)
4 x Wild Cantor (2 foil french + 2 foil english)
1 x Cave-In (foil italian)
4 x Empty (japanese)
4 x Ingot Chewer (3 foil english + 1 foil french)
2 x Overmaster (foil french)
1 x Welder (japanese)
4 x Duress (saga japanese)
1 x Simplify (foil french)
1 x Reverent Silence (foil french)
4 x Guttural Response (japanese)
1 x Taiga (FBB german)
1 x Bayou (FBB german)
2 x Gamble (japanese)
1 x Hull Breach (foil japanese)
+ more and more cards japanese and/or foil french for teps ^^
Post pics, no one wants to read a list of cards that are pimp.
Aj-capra
10-07-2008, 04:10 PM
Post pics, no one wants to read a list of cards that are pimp.
I take photos and post it tomorrow!!!
Magik321
10-10-2008, 02:21 PM
I'll be away for the next 7 weeks. So heres my newly updated infernal contract collection. I only scanned the foils and salvat pieces. I've got 23 foils now with a german foil one incoming
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/InfernalContractFoils.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/SalvatContracts-1.jpg
Frenger
10-10-2008, 02:56 PM
I can get you another french one to finish off your salvat playset if you like.
Sea R Hill
10-11-2008, 06:39 PM
Still have you beat. Beta duals > Jap foil.
Beta's the best. I just hate foils. NonFoil Pinpin' ain't easy.
yawg07
10-16-2008, 12:46 PM
Here's looking at you, upcoming Extended season ...
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILMindsDesire4x.jpg
Heresy
10-16-2008, 02:44 PM
I just came in my pants.
socialite
10-16-2008, 03:09 PM
Only one thing less pimp than foil stamps (DCI, MPS, FNM) on Magic cards and thats people doing shitty alterations like Vroman's.
Sorry but those Mind's Desires are gross, the art isn't even any good.
That isn't directed at you Yawg, you paint really well.
Citrus-God
10-16-2008, 03:23 PM
Only one thing less pimp than foil stamps (DCI, MPS, FNM) on Magic cards and thats people doing shitty alterations like Vroman's.
Sorry but those Mind's Desires are gross, the art isn't even any good.
That isn't directed at you Yawg, you paint really well.
The promo Eternal Dragons and Decree of Justices are sexy as hell though.
Poesjuh
10-16-2008, 04:01 PM
I prefer non-dci foils over dci anytime of the day. Paid $40 for my foil AP Vindicate, that's plenty more than I would have paid for a DCI, but it was worth it!
Although I have to admit I have a dci Demonic :$, just had to have one ^^
FredMaster
10-16-2008, 05:20 PM
The promo Eternal Dragons and Decree of Justices are sexy as hell though.
Nope the Dragon is just not!! Same is true for the Deed and the Chant - Decree, Cunning Wish and Exalted look nice tho.
Shriekmaw
10-16-2008, 05:37 PM
I prefer non-dci foils over dci anytime of the day. Paid $40 for my foil AP Vindicate, that's plenty more than I would have paid for a DCI, but it was worth it!
Although I have to admit I have a dci Demonic :$, just had to have one ^^
Well, if you want a hot Demonic Tutor, then I would suggest getting a Beta one.
Elficidium
10-16-2008, 05:44 PM
Nope the Dragon is just not!! Same is true for the Deed and the Chant - Decree, Cunning Wish and Exalted look nice tho.
Something comes to mind in regards to eyes ands beholders and the likes.
The style of promos are usually really different compared to the original, so oppinions can be few and far between. Personally, I prefer the DCI promos because they're cleaner (no reminder and such) and the flavor tends to be less setting-specific.
socialite
10-16-2008, 05:47 PM
Something comes to mind in regards to eyes ands beholders and the likes.
The style of promos are usually really different compared to the original, so oppinions can be few and far between. Personally, I prefer the DCI promos because they're cleaner (no reminder and such) and the flavor tends to be less setting-specific.
Cleaner? Huh?
DCI
I also like the DCI foils because I strongly prefer the new card face. I would rather have DCI printed in huge letters on my card than have old foils. They are hideous.
yawg07
10-16-2008, 08:37 PM
I actually love foils that have stuff in the textbox, I dunno it looks cool.
But I prefer old foils over everything, and I like the DCI Desire picture better than the old picture, so it beats out old foil.
Poesjuh
10-17-2008, 04:42 AM
Well, if you want a hot Demonic Tutor, then I would suggest getting a Beta one.
Nah, already got that :P I've got a gorgeous NM+ Alpha Tutor and a not so pretty Beta one :P
Also I'd like to add that most of the times DCI foils are reprints of cards that were last printed in the old layout, also a reason why I prefer the original foils, I'm just still not fond of the new layout.
Magik321
10-22-2008, 06:32 AM
Finally gotten this after searching for quite long
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/magik_321/GermanFoilInfernalContract.jpg
Funky-kun
10-23-2008, 11:23 AM
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l127/Funky-kun/10232008022.jpg?t=1224775054
Quality is awful, but Cruel Bargain is Mint. :O
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l127/Funky-kun/SSA50984.jpg?t=1224775065
One Foil Goatnapper to rule them all. :O
Can't put pictures directly in the post. -_-"
Zach Tartell
10-23-2008, 11:28 AM
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l127/Funky-kun/10232008022.jpg?t=1224775054
Quality is awful, but Cruel Bargain is Mint. :O
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l127/Funky-kun/SSA50984.jpg?t=1224775065
One Foil Goatnapper to rule them all. :O
Can't put pictures directly in the post. -_-"
I use photobucket myself, so I'm positive that there's a way to link.
Also, your non-foil-ness hurts my eyes. And my Japanese Foil Goatnapper will haunt your dreams (I'm going to goad my roomie into letting my use his digital camera today to hook you bitches up with my EDH deck and related pimpness).
I use photobucket myself, so I'm positive that there's a way to link.
Also, your non-foil-ness hurts my eyes. And my Japanese Foil Goatnapper will haunt your dreams (I'm going to goad my roomie into letting my use his digital camera today to hook you bitches up with my EDH deck and related pimpness).
Next time I'm home from school, I will post my playset of Russian Foil Goatnappers.
Funky-kun
10-23-2008, 11:35 AM
Next time I'm home from school, I will post my playset of Russian Foil Goatnappers.
OMG I shouldn't have brought this up.:laugh:
Mirrislegend
10-23-2008, 12:04 PM
I love my foil Goatnapper. It holds a place of honor in my trade binder.
Funky-kun
10-23-2008, 12:37 PM
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5908/dsc02186sv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/3303/dsc02185up7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Better quality FTW. :cool:
Magik321
10-24-2008, 08:58 AM
Wow, whats the thing with infernal contracts and cruel bargain these days?
Ban deez.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h222/bigballashotcaller/PIMP/TarmogoyfJacoStyle.jpg
The Japanese Foil ones are available. If any of the real ballers are interested, just PM me. I already sold the rest of the Japanese Foil Loam deck I had, so it's time for these to go too.
yawg07
10-24-2008, 11:58 AM
Thanks to Magik321 :D
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILXantidSwarm4x.jpg
Bryant Cook
10-24-2008, 12:00 PM
Thanks to Magik321 :D
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/yawg07/TEPS2/FOILXantidSwarm4x.jpg
I don't see why this is impressive. I can read it.
Also JACO, PIMP.
troopatroop
10-24-2008, 12:58 PM
I don't see why this is impressive. I can read it.
Also JACO, PIMP.
Post pics of TES
Shriekmaw
10-24-2008, 01:04 PM
Post pics of TES
Would you like to see my TES deck, its pretty damn hot as well. I think between myself and byrant we have the whole deck pimped.
Bryant Cook
10-24-2008, 01:08 PM
Post pics of TES
There's some pages back. I don't have access to my cards. However, I just won 3 Jap Foil Infernal Tutors.
EDIT: Nick I guarantee mine's pimper. ;-p
Shriekmaw
10-24-2008, 01:12 PM
.
EDIT: Nick I guarantee mine's pimper. ;-p
I would agree, you do have more pimp cards then me, but I do have quite a few of mine own.
Slowly working on Canadian Threshold. :)
jbmulder
10-25-2008, 05:19 PM
I agree with Yawg that if the DCI art is better, I have to go with it.
Here's some ok stuff that you CAN read :cry:
The Cunning Wish
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/158/pic0619ez3.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6856/pic0620xb5.jpg
Haven’t found a home yet
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2894/pic0624de6.jpg
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5018/pic0625bp7.jpg
This is how we did it in the old days before Electrolyze…ok we still do it this way
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5307/pic0627ss1.jpg
Best Counterspell art
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4489/pic0629pb0.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/186/pic0630ws0.jpg
Random one-ofs
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8230/pic0631cl4.jpg
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9625/pic0632qn2.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1545/pic0633ed3.jpg
Still working on it...
rockout
10-25-2008, 05:20 PM
Cards that you can read, so glad someone else agrees they are sexy.
Frenger
10-25-2008, 05:27 PM
Cards that you can read, so glad someone else agrees they are sexy.
I agree. I'm glad I can read all these cards. (OK So i can't read the Korean ones, they're sexy fuck you.)
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/IMG_0201-5.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/IMG_0203-4.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/IMG_0204-6.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/IMG_0202-7.jpg
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/sambacklund/IMG_0210-2.jpg
Aj-capra
10-26-2008, 06:28 AM
My extended deck now!!!
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1732/26102008002co7.th.jpg (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26102008002co7.jpg)http://img261.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
4 x Manamorphose (foil french)
4 x Rite of Flame (japanese)
4 x Seething Song (chinese signed)
4 x Desperate Ritual (3 chinese + 1 japanese)
4 x Chromatic Star (ts chinese)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/953/26102008003qa8.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26102008003qa8.jpg)
4 x City of Brass (foil english)
4 x Gemstone Mine (wl japanese)
3 x Underground River (10th ed. chinese)
2 x Sulfurous Springs (10th ed. chinese)
3 x Shivan Reef (AP 1 japanese + 2 chinese)
2 x Toa (japanese)
2 x Etw (japanese)
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4986/26102008004ae9.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26102008004ae9.jpg)http://img146.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
4 x Channel the Suns (chinese)
2 x Plunge into Darkness (japanese signed gp Rimini 2008)
2 x Slaughter Pact (1 french + 1 chinese)
4 x Mind's Desire (french)
4 x Peer Through Depths (foil chinese)
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3300/26102008005kd5.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26102008005kd5.jpg)http://img171.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
3 x Krosan Grip (japanese)
3 x Pact of Negation (chinese)
3 x Xantid Swarm (japanese)
2 x Ancient Grudge (japanese)
3 x Thoughtseize (chinese)
1 x Echoing Truth (foil chinese)
see you for others pics!!!
In these weeK I post my tes and my FT!!!
Versus
10-29-2008, 02:48 PM
I always hated foils just because they naturally wanted to bend. I need my cards to lie flat for some reason. However, I'm mildly tempted to foil out Affinity simply because it seems right and most of it can be done fairly cheap.
Someone must have done it. Inspire me. I've seen mention of it in here, but I couldn't find the pics.
Poesjuh
10-29-2008, 08:14 PM
Some day now I'll finally have my EDH deck completed. Also it seems I have about 10 foil fetch incoming, including 4 delta, so if it works out okay I only need 2 more to have all 20 of them foil ^^
linux-ll-
11-01-2008, 11:56 AM
This thread needs more pictures, thus some of my FOILS:smile:
http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr329/Linux-ll-/CIMG2099.jpg
Julian23
11-01-2008, 05:51 PM
I actually tried to figure out what kind of crazy interaction you got going on in your "deck" until I realized it contained 6 copies of Hoofprints of the Stag.
:laugh:
Spectör
11-04-2008, 09:56 AM
I always hated foils just because they naturally wanted to bend. I need my cards to lie flat for some reason. However, I'm mildly tempted to foil out Affinity simply because it seems right and most of it can be done fairly cheap.
Someone must have done it. Inspire me. I've seen mention of it in here, but I couldn't find the pics.
I'd suggest getting it in german(/foil). I think you americans would find the names just hilarious...
Gedankenanordnung, Frühlingsblättertrommel, Lichtbogen Verwüster...
Mirrislegend
11-04-2008, 10:01 AM
Frühlingsblättertrommel
That's amazing. Which one is that?
Frenger
11-04-2008, 10:06 AM
That's amazing. Which one is that?
Springleaf Drum apparently.
http://magiccards.info/lw/de/261.html
Fonzy
11-04-2008, 10:13 AM
I always hated foils just because they naturally wanted to bend. I need my cards to lie flat for some reason. However, I'm mildly tempted to foil out Affinity simply because it seems right and most of it can be done fairly cheap.
Someone must have done it. Inspire me. I've seen mention of it in here, but I couldn't find the pics.
I have a foil affinity deck, but no camera.
Your first inclination is right - the curling is a PITA. Never again will I covet foils after seeing what's happened to my foil Affinity deck over time.
Poesjuh
11-04-2008, 10:30 AM
I think that in about 3 days or so I'll have my EDH deck complete, but for now I have some nice scans of the cards that I collected but never made it into the deck. There are some nice ones between them though.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/EDHnetniet1.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn185/whoppingtrunks/MP%20Pimp%20deck/EDHnetniet2.jpg
I have an all-Chinese affinity deck, with a few foils.
Too bad affinity sucks.
I always hated foils just because they naturally wanted to bend. I need my cards to lie flat for some reason. However, I'm mildly tempted to foil out Affinity simply because it seems right and most of it can be done fairly cheap.
Someone must have done it. Inspire me. I've seen mention of it in here, but I couldn't find the pics.
Frenger
11-04-2008, 11:25 AM
Regarding curling foils: Just use KMC perfect fit sleeves. I bought them last year to sleeve up my vintage deck which was becoming worth a bit of cash, and I noticed the sleeves prevented foils from curving.
Ophidian
11-04-2008, 12:17 PM
Regarding curling foils: Just use KMC perfect fit sleeves. I bought them last year to sleeve up my vintage deck which was becoming worth a bit of cash, and I noticed the sleeves prevented foils from curving.
Also regarding curling foils:
Don't use Dragon Sleeves. Plain and Simple.
I only use foils (or Beta's if they're an option.. sigh) and I've never had a foil curl. Ever. I don't use Dragon Shields because everyone I know that's used them has incurred the infamous curling.
Just use matte finish Ultra Pro's that come in the toploading cardboard box with a dragon on it. Your cards will thank you.
FWIW I also leave my cards in the car all the time and I live in Texas... heat has nothing to do with curl either, humidity might, but it's fairly humid here and like I said, I've never had a problem with it.
Regarding Perfect Fits-- How on earth are you using those? I sleeved one of my decks in the perfect fits and then regular KMC sleeves and my deck looked like it should be running 4x Battle of Wits! I couldn't shuffle at all because the sleeves were clumping. I just couldn't get em to work... and I even read the instructions!!!!
Frenger
11-04-2008, 12:27 PM
Regarding Perfect Fits-- How on earth are you using those? I sleeved one of my decks in the perfect fits and then regular KMC sleeves and my deck looked like it should be running 4x Battle of Wits! I couldn't shuffle at all because the sleeves were clumping. I just couldn't get em to work... and I even read the instructions!!!!
Weird, since I use the same Ultra Pro's as you.
I think you have to press the air out of them. You sleeve up your deck and just push down on the stack. Sometimes people ask me if my deck is more than 60 cards, but not too often. It's less than 1 cm taller than a normal deck.
goobafish
11-04-2008, 12:58 PM
I use Raven Black Ultra pros with Perfect Fits. Works fine. Deck is a little thick, but it flattens out over time.
conboy31
11-04-2008, 01:44 PM
I use Raven Black Ultra pros with Perfect Fits. Works fine. Deck is a little thick, but it flattens out over time.
That is exactly what I use. As mentioned, just compress the deck and air will come out. Over a few weeks the deck should drop down to like 15% bigger than one without em.
Ophidian
11-04-2008, 03:07 PM
That is exactly what I use. As mentioned, just compress the deck and air will come out. Over a few weeks the deck should drop down to like 15% bigger than one without em.
Maybe I'm just too impatient..
Ok, next time I make a scg order I'll give em another shot
SuperBean
11-04-2008, 03:28 PM
Someone post a pimp T.E.S deck. I'm sick of all this talking.
Bryant Cook
11-04-2008, 03:32 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/lands.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/Win.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/Artifactmana.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/Rituals.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/OtherMana.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/Tutors.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/draw.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/Protection.jpg
Bryant Cook
11-04-2008, 03:32 PM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/Anti-Blue.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/misc.jpg
I now have a Foil Jap Tendrils, Jap Foil Grapeshot, 3x Jap Foil Infernal Tutors, 3x Jap Foil Shushers and 2x More Shattering Spree.
With the updated list, I also need 2x Duress, 2x Cabal Ritual and 4x Ad Nauseum now... : (
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/4/4/9/8/5/1/webimg/190790125_tp.jpg
Bryant Cook
11-04-2008, 03:52 PM
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/4/4/9/8/5/1/webimg/190790125_tp.jpg
Not Jap Foil.
I find the mix of Japanese and Chinese kind of disappointing.
Bryant Cook
11-04-2008, 03:55 PM
I find the mix of Japanese and Chinese kind of disappointing.
Mine is all Japanese now besides 3 Orim's Chants that will be.
Not Jap Foil.
True, but I'm not putting money into TES I got these strait up for an English set.
Mine is all Japanese now besides 3 Orim's Chants that will be.
So those are old pics? Or not your cards?
Going by the Wrestler signed Tendrils, I would say old pics...
FWIW I also leave my cards in the car all the time and I live in Texas... heat has nothing to do with curl either, humidity might, but it's fairly humid here and like I said, I've never had a problem with it.
What? According to my knowledge, heat and moisture indeed have an effect on the curl as the foil-layer reacts to heat by expanding (well, nearly every solid matter does). But when it cools down, it shrinks which will intensify the mentioned curl effect.
Same is true for the moisture which slowly softens the cardboard. It will then deform irreversibly, thus you have a card which is curved forever.
Well, my UGW Threshold is still the same, except that my jap Coldsnap Brainstorms got watered down to jap Mercadian Masques and I now have fbb duals. I will post a pic tomorrow since I don't have time for it now. And this thread srsly needs more pictures instead of talking about crap decks.
Bryant Cook
11-04-2008, 04:21 PM
So those are old pics? Or not your cards?
Old pics, underneath the images, I put what I now have.
Aj-capra
11-04-2008, 04:42 PM
Bryant you're GOD!!!
Your tes is very very hard!!!
congrats ^^
Now i buy only common and uncommon foil french and japanese rares!!
Ophidian
11-04-2008, 04:59 PM
What? According to my knowledge, heat and moisture indeed have an effect on the curl as the foil-layer reacts to heat by expanding (well, nearly every solid matter does). But when it cools down, it shrinks which will intensify the mentioned curl effect.
Same is true for the moisture which slowly softens the cardboard. It will then deform irreversibly, thus you have a card which is curved forever.
Well, my UGW Threshold is still the same, except that my jap Coldsnap Brainstorms got watered down to jap Mercadian Masques and I now have fbb duals. I will post a pic tomorrow since I don't have time for it now. And this thread srsly needs more pictures instead of talking about crap decks.
I know what you're saying, but from my experience, I have left my cards in the car for days at a time @ 100+ degree heat, and my foils are still perfectly flat.
I would love to post more pics, but there aren't any legacy decks that are doing anything for me right now, so I haven't been inspired to build anything new. I've got my T2 Reveillark deck completely foiled and my T2 5C Merfolk completely foiled though. I'm about 5-6 cards off of foiling Tezzerator in Extended.
Funky-kun
11-04-2008, 06:02 PM
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5181/8fowec1.jpg
Longcat is looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
Griever9977
11-04-2008, 10:39 PM
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4694/lotus9je6.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lotus9je6.jpg)
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/lotus9je6.jpg/1/w200.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img267/lotus9je6.jpg/1/)
One of my friend's pics. It's like a 10k question mark.
Shit, that's a lot more than 10k.
Zach Tartell
11-07-2008, 06:53 PM
After an excellent evening putting cats into freezers...
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t119/lonelybaritone/1106081232a.jpg
...I've decided to take pictures of my extremely excellent EDH deck (although it isn't fully pimp-ified, 'cause Germans are lazy)(I know, right?).
Anyway, I can't get a picture without ridiculous amounts of glare.
Like, attrocious amounts. Can anybody give me some help on how to not suck at cameras?
Frenger
11-07-2008, 06:57 PM
Like, attrocious amounts. Can anybody give me some help on how to not suck at cameras?
Turn off the flash, turn on Macro mode. (the symbol is usually a little flower)
Needs more pictures...
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3877/08112008037nc1.jpg
linux-ll-
11-08-2008, 10:05 AM
@ Adan : Looks Great but you need jap. Nimble, jap. Tarmos, jap. Genesis and jap. Wonder
Bahamuth
11-08-2008, 11:35 AM
Looks awesome. How much did you pay for Asian Fetchland? Also, is that Island asian?
Looks awesome. How much did you pay for Asian Fetchland? Also, is that Island asian?
I don't remember. I think I payed 30 Euro for the Delta-upgrade and 20 for the upgrade of the Strands.
And that Island is Alpha. I have P3K Islands (white-boardered, 1 S-chin, 2 T-chin, 1 jap) and some foil Odyssey Islands (t-chinese), but I foudn the Alpha Island prettier.
@linux:
probably, but there are still a lot of people who are too stupid to distinguish between japanese and chinese, that's why I don't care about the mix as long as the playsets are uniform.
I also don't see why I should down-grade the Mongeese to japanese, especially because I stood 1 hour in the queue to let them sign by Terese Nielsen. And well, I payed 8 Dollar for that playset of Goyfs. It would be ridiculous if the upgrade would cost me more than I payed for the playset itself. ;-)
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