[DO NOT TRY TO SELL IN HERE] Pimp Legacy Decks

[guillemnicolau]

Reprints are not pimp unless they have the original art. Then, they have to satisfy at least one of the following conditions:
1) they have an older border than the original (see dci confidant, swords...)
2) are foil and original print is not available in foil (see ftv ancient tomb)

[Pilhas]

Reprints are not pimp unless they have the original art. Then, they have to satisfy at least one of the following conditions:
1) they have an older border than the original (see dci confidant, swords...)
2) are foil and original print is not available in foil (see ftv ancient tomb)

Add Language IMO :)

I just want my FoWs in Japanese ^^

[Quasim0ff]

Reprints are not pimp unless they have the original art. Then, they have to satisfy at least one of the following conditions:
1) they have an older border than the original (see dci confidant, swords...)
2) are foil and original print is not available in foil (see ftv ancient tomb)

FTV Ancient Tomb can never be more pimp than any other Ancient Tomb, when there's korean, japanese, german as well as expedition which is clearly a superior foil.

[snorlaxcom]

Anything with the new fangled yugioh sticker I don't consider pimp.

[guillemnicolau]

FTV Ancient Tomb can never be more pimp than any other Ancient Tomb, when there's korean, japanese, german as well as expedition which is clearly a superior foil.

If almost all your deck is foil, I would understand playing ftv tombs.

[CutthroatCasual]

Add Language IMO :)

I just want my FoWs in Japanese ^^

I'll own a playset of JPN FoW, but I'll still be using my German or Italian ones

[Quasim0ff]

If almost all your deck is foil, I would understand playing ftv tombs.

Nope, that doesn't qualify as pimp still. There's a better foil, and FTV cards are per definition (not mine, general definition) considered useless.

[snorlaxcom]

If almost all your deck is foil, I would understand playing ftv tombs.

Korean I would understand. Ftv would signal the deck is still a work in progress.

[magical-yata]

Where do we think the new Terese Nielson Force of Will Foil will rank on the pimp scale?

[jrsthethird]

Where do we think the new Terese Nielson Force of Will Foil will rank on the pimp scale?

Obviously crap/10, since your deck must only be built to certain strict but subjective criteria by people you don't know on the internet and not you, the person who wants to play with it and make it look pretty in the first place.

[snorlaxcom]

Obviously crap/10

+1

[Bobmans]

Where do we think the new Terese Nielson Force of Will Foil will rank on the pimp scale?
Those come in Japanese ^_^
Terese Nielson also puts up a nice signature.
Next to follow: JPN Duals..

[mini1337s]

Not sure if Pimp, but this is my new favourite EDH deck. Got to play it at the local last week and it was a blast. Ending up losing, but not before I clone'd an Newlamog and got to swing with it 6 times. Ended up losing to Old School Baron Sengir which won the 4 man pod with Glacial Chasm and Hecatomb!

http://i.imgur.com/IxL0Egt.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/BFcMd5J.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/smw6eXA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LAvdTWV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vkwCMBl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3Mb7tUz.jpg?1

I think I need to extend the Manabase into Ice Age as mana screw is real and I don't want to run Celestial Prism :P

[H]

I only like what people on the Internet tell me to like.

It's much easier when I am informed what my opinion is.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Not sure if Pimp...
Are you kidding? That's one heck of a deck!


I think I need to extend the Manabase into Ice Age as mana screw is real and I don't want to run Celestial Prism :P
Sure. In fact if I'd be playing any kind of old school Magic, it wouldn't be without IA and friends. There are so many beautiful cards in post-Dark expansions, and speaking of color fixation, Thawing Glaciers could help a bit for a fraction of buck.
Also, there comes quite some removal in form of Reprisal, Exile, Dark Banishing, even Contagion, in case you'd ned it. Necro is legal?

[Kathal]

Not sure if Pimp, but this is my new favourite EDH deck. Got to play it at the local last week and it was a blast. Ending up losing, but not before I clone'd an Newlamog and got to swing with it 6 times. Ended up losing to Old School Baron Sengir which won the 4 man pod with Glacial Chasm and Hecatomb!

~pics~

I think I need to extend the Manabase into Ice Age as mana screw is real and I don't want to run Celestial Prism :P

Dakkon Blackblade was one of the reasons, why I started to play MTG. One of my all time favourites regarding style, artwork and flavour.

Greetings,
Kathal

[MoxMonkey]

Not sure if Pimp, but this is my new favourite EDH deck. Got to play it at the local last week and it was a blast. Ending up losing, but not before I clone'd an Newlamog and got to swing with it 6 times. Ended up losing to Old School Baron Sengir which won the 4 man pod with Glacial Chasm and Hecatomb!

*snip pics*]

I think I need to extend the Manabase into Ice Age as mana screw is real and I don't want to run Celestial Prism :P

I totally approve of it! Old school EDH is so much fun to play. I have a B/G/R and U/W old school EDH. They don't win much but it fun to see reactions to some of the cards.

[MoxMonkey]

Here is U/W:
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/juzam007/12734138_10208357605794608_2203610159237853351_n_zpsbxav201l.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/juzam007/media/12734138_10208357605794608_2203610159237853351_n_zpsbxav201l.jpg.html)
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/juzam007/10527867_10208357605554602_2719523455665335550_n_zpsl2dktp09.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/juzam007/media/10527867_10208357605554602_2719523455665335550_n_zpsl2dktp09.jpg.html)
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/juzam007/12715627_10208357605394598_3418273703735548239_n_zpscagwxbir.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/juzam007/media/12715627_10208357605394598_3418273703735548239_n_zpscagwxbir.jpg.html)

R/G/B:
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/juzam007/12733425_10208357604474575_2401046113284103447_n_zpsjobb5dtp.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/juzam007/media/12733425_10208357604474575_2401046113284103447_n_zpsjobb5dtp.jpg.html)
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/juzam007/12742855_10208357605154592_3989256459689295965_n_zpsuwvsl07y.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/juzam007/media/12742855_10208357605154592_3989256459689295965_n_zpsuwvsl07y.jpg.html)
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/juzam007/12742408_10208357604794583_1636700608654818520_n_zps4mqmjvdc.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/juzam007/media/12742408_10208357604794583_1636700608654818520_n_zps4mqmjvdc.jpg.html)
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/juzam007/12705287_10208357604634579_2372607596599350433_n_zpsup483lh6.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/juzam007/media/12705287_10208357604634579_2372607596599350433_n_zpsup483lh6.jpg.html)

[Ryu]

Is that a spellground playmat? If so, what version is it? If not, what is it? Could we get a pic of it?

[jrsthethird]

Not sure if Pimp, but this is my new favourite EDH deck. Got to play it at the local last week and it was a blast. Ending up losing, but not before I clone'd an Newlamog and got to swing with it 6 times. Ended up losing to Old School Baron Sengir which won the 4 man pod with Glacial Chasm and Hecatomb!

I think I need to extend the Manabase into Ice Age as mana screw is real and I don't want to run Celestial Prism :P

Clearly if Eldrazi are infesting your Old School EDH games, you can cheat into some painlands.

[Patrunkenphat7]

I'm a pimping noob, so I am curious - what is the best way to pimp City of Traitors?

[MoxMonkey]

Is that a spellground playmat? If so, what version is it? If not, what is it? Could we get a pic of it?

Yes it is. I picked it up in 2000, the day before the signing. about 2 years later I picked up the top spellgrounds. all 4 spellgrounds I have are 2 player mats.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/juzam007/10632660_10208358384014063_8881628911608660146_n_zpskvp4gy1j.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/juzam007/media/10632660_10208358384014063_8881628911608660146_n_zpskvp4gy1j.jpg.html)

[barcode]

I'm a pimping noob, so I am curious - what is the best way to pimp City of Traitors?

test foil printing

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22284908/mtg/tmp/gp-boston2014-cityoftraitorfoil.jpg

[big_ticket]

16k whoa..:laugh:
never seen one thanks barcode

[Patrunkenphat7]

Oh my word... So cool!!! Not to downplay the awesomeness, but I am curious about most pimp that is also tournament-legal.

[Ryu]

Do we have a basic guide on pimping? I am looking to expand my pimpage in my BUG Delver deck and alpha duals arent doing it for me. I also want it to be tournament playable.

[Bobmans]

test foil printing

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22284908/mtg/tmp/gp-boston2014-cityoftraitorfoil.jpg
The seller isn't treating the card with the respect it deserves. Letting 16k just sling around like that. It must be fake.

[Bobmans]

Do we have a basic guide on pimping? I am looking to expand my pimpage in my BUG Delver deck and alpha duals arent doing it for me. I also want it to be tournament playable.

Pimp in the eye of the beholder, man. Consistency matters. All black bordered. (or some alter all borders to white for some reason).
Overall you'd want original series.
Ftv or promo are not done unless those are the only foil available (if foil is your thing).
and foreign languages; German, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Russian.
But again, concsisteny.

[Ticalstal]

Where do we think the new Terese Nielson Force of Will Foil will rank on the pimp scale?

Since there's no set foil printing of FoW, do the pimpers go for the first foil printing judge promo force or the new eternal masters force of will by the original artist? I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and use what you like but I'm curious to hear the "community opinion"

I personally dislike the judge foil force of will's art (and the little star in the middle) so I would probably have to pick up the new foil force if I wanted one for the cube.

Since this is a legacy deck thread, my "current" iteration of the most hated legacy deck is linked below (I change builds all the time so this is probably not the latest and greatest):

http://imgur.com/WkmP1tA,ZrPyrWL,j9LFlFm

My edition preference is:
alpha/beta/arabian nights/legend/antiquities/the dark
russian non foil
german non foil

[Ryu]

Pimp in the eye of the beholder, man. Consistency matters. All black bordered. (or some alter all borders to white for some reason).
Overall you'd want original series.
Ftv or promo are not done unless those are the only foil available (if foil is your thing).
and foreign languages; German, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Russian.
But again, concsisteny.

I don't have any experience with foil cards but i heard that older foils tend to warp? If I were to go this route would you recommend any solution to prevent this?

I think I will avoid foreign language cards because of tournament play.

Can I get any more pimp then alpha duals?

[Dice_Box]

Double sleeve foils and keep them in a dry place. I had my asthma play up last year and set up a ventilator in the room at night. Some random foil I opened from Origins or Karns ended up looking like a half pipe.

[Bobmans]

I don't have any experience with foil cards but i heard that older foils tend to warp? If I were to go this route would you recommend any solution to prevent this?

I think I will avoid foreign language cards because of tournament play.

Can I get any more pimp then alpha duals?
I always double sleeved them. Kept them dry and in a fliptop deckbox. Some did warp more then others and even keeping them in a large book for weeks didnt do it.
During one tournament i had a deckcheck and i had these original series Trinisphere's. Just those where a bit more warped and where considered marked. I got a gameloss for that and had to swap them with nonfoils in order to be allowed to continue the tournament. I was furious.
Sold ALL my foils and switched to JPN non-foil signed. Never regretted.

More pimp then Alpha? Alpha cards have different cut corners. I woukd even consider bringing alpha to a tournament.

[Noctalor]

People asking about the basics of pimp :O

Foil>Cool promo foil>Non foil>Shitty foil

No language>Russian>Korean>Japanese>Chinese>European/Eng

Original artwork>No artwork>Amazing not original artwork>Crappy non original artwork

Signed>Unsigned

Original print>Reprint

SUmmer>BB>WB

But its pretty much all about what you want in your deck, for example picking a card like Birds of Paradise, the Poole art is nuts, the 7e foil japanese are insane as always, man even the promo art from terese is super good, i would like all 3 of them in different ways, based on the rest of the deck.
As far as im concerned there are only few things that ill never consider, mostly based on the glossy FTV foil

[Sloshthedark]

what will be the price range for an attactive jap foil R in the set? - I mean like Wasteland or Flusterstorm (if reprinted, if at R), also would Flusterstorm likely feature different art?



Oh my word... So cool!!! Not to downplay the awesomeness, but I am curious about most pimp that is also tournament-legal.

it is tournament legal

[Havrekjex]

Since there's no set foil printing of FoW, do the pimpers go for the first foil printing judge promo force or the new eternal masters force of will by the original artist? I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and use what you like but I'm curious to hear the "community opinion"

I personally dislike the judge foil force of will's art (and the little star in the middle) so I would probably have to pick up the new foil force if I wanted one for the cubeI`d go for the new one hands down unless the foiling turns out to be as shitty as most of the MM15 foils that look like fucking inkjet on tin foil. The new art is miles better, and none of them are original printing/art anyway, so… I guess the only argument against the EMA printing is the M15 border with the holostamp, but the judge foil has that shooting star, so… yeah.

[CutthroatCasual]

what will be the price range for an attactive jap foil R in the set? - I mean like Wasteland or Flusterstorm (if reprinted, if at R), also would Flusterstorm likely feature different art?


The Wasteland art actually looks sick, I'd imagine a JP foil of that would run near $200 (remember, it's at rare so it will show up ever so slightly more often).

Flusterstorm will probably be around $150. This set will certainly tank the price of the non-foil Commander JP Fstorm, and if using the Judge foil as a guide, then I don't expect this to be an obscenely priced foil. Plus, Fstorm is not a playset, and is always a SB card.

I'm more confident in my FStorm prediction than I am in my Wasteland one. This is because all the foil versions of Wastelands have been hovering around $190-$240, regardless of edition. Which means that their price (rightly so) isn't affected by other versions. So taking that into account, having a foreign foil of that makes it hard to gauge how much it'll be since I'd have to factor in how common the foil will be as well as the foreign markup.

[Sloshthedark]

The Wasteland art actually looks sick, I'd imagine a JP foil of that would run near $200 (remember, it's at rare so it will show up ever so slightly more often).

Flusterstorm will probably be around $150. This set will certainly tank the price of the non-foil Commander JP Fstorm, and if using the Judge foil as a guide, then I don't expect this to be an obscenely priced foil. Plus, Fstorm is not a playset, and is always a SB card.

I'm more confident in my FStorm prediction than I am in my Wasteland one. This is because all the foil versions of Wastelands have been hovering around $190-$240, regardless of edition. Which means that their price (rightly so) isn't affected by other versions. So taking that into account, having a foreign foil of that makes it hard to gauge how much it'll be since I'd have to factor in how common the foil will be as well as the foreign markup.

I'd also think the 150 ... I was thinking of MM Dark Confidant as a roughly comparable card...

to the 2nd part of the question - is there some logic regarding reprints of Judge promos and new art? - Reprinting FoW with the JP pic would make the JP very hard to move or would lose value, but does the same logic apply to less premium stuff? I can't recall (which doesnt mean anything) any JP being mass reprinted using the same visual appearence and from the constant Wasteland recycling I'd assume that both Karakas and Flusterstorm, if reprinted, would have new artwork ...on the other hand a lot of the cards in the set can be too old to reprint with original art, would they commision xxx new artworks for it? (just thinking about the mess makes me feel uneasy)

[bruizar]

So normally I know exactly what I want for pimp cards, but I'm struggling with Sword of X/Y. Do I take the judge foil or the mirrodin foil? I will be using it in legacy, but a lot of the deck is modern framed including expedition Eyes, Wastelands and Ancient Tombs (Eldrazi). I'll also be playing Eldrazi in Modern while I still can but probably won't use swords in that format.

Although I love the GP foils, Sword of Light and Shadow and Sword of Fire and Ice are differently foiled (I'll be needing a SoLaS, but it sucks that it is inconstent with SoFaI; SoFaI has the ugly ass DCI stamp that makes it worthless to me. Luckily the Sword of Feast and Famine is properly foiled like SoLaS). Price-wise I think modern framed swords can go higher, which you can see by the price for Crucible of Worlds.

I also play MUD and Stax which has old border foils like Metalworker and Grim Monolith, so reusing the GP Foils in that deck is a bit nicer than in the Eldrazi deck. I absolutely won't buy a GP AND a mirrodin foil. Magic has been expensive lately already :)

[Havrekjex]

So normally I know exactly what I want for pimp cards, but I'm struggling with Sword of X/Y. Do I take the judge foil or the mirrodin foil? I will be using it in legacy, but a lot of the deck is modern framed including expedition Eyes, Wastelands and Ancient Tombs (Eldrazi). I'll also be playing Eldrazi in Modern while I still can but probably won't use swords in that format.

Although I love the GP foils, Sword of Light and Shadow and Sword of Fire and Ice are differently foiled (I'll be needing a SoLaS, but it sucks that it is inconstent with SoFaI; SoFaI has the ugly ass DCI stamp that makes it worthless to me. Luckily the Sword of Feast and Famine is properly foiled like SoLaS). Price-wise I think modern framed swords can go higher, which you can see by the price for Crucible of Worlds.

I also play MUD and Stax which has old border foils like Metalworker and Grim Monolith, so reusing the GP Foils in that deck is a bit nicer than in the Eldrazi deck. I absolutely won't buy a GP AND a mirrodin foil. Magic has been expensive lately already :)For a deck that runs multiple swords I`d personally have consistency as priority #1. If you`re going to run L&S and F&I and no other ones, you`re lucky that both are in Darksteel and have the older, softer, more abstract art that imo is superior to Scars/MMA art. The old frame promo foils are nice, but I agree that the DCI watermark completely ruins F&I. I pick basically anything over cards with DCI/FNM/Arena/GP watermarks, including worn-ass white bordered cards, the only exception off the top of my head being FTV. That`s just me ofc.

So personally I would go for this setup:

Need only L&S and/or F&F -> Old border promo.
Need only F&I or F&I+L&S, but no other -> Darksteel pack foil.
Need other swords -> MMA+Scars block foils for matching art style.

[bruizar]

For a deck that runs multiple swords I`d personally have consistency as priority #1. If you`re going to run L&S and F&I and no other ones, you`re lucky that both are in Darksteel and have the older, softer, more abstract art that imo is superior to Scars/MMA art. The old frame promo foils are nice, but I agree that the DCI watermark completely ruins F&I. I pick basically anything over cards with DCI/FNM/Arena/GP watermarks, including worn-ass white bordered cards, the only exception off the top of my head being FTV. That`s just me ofc.

So personally I would go for this setup:

Need only L&S and/or F&F -> Old border promo.
Need only F&I or F&I+L&S, but no other -> Darksteel pack foil.
Need other swords -> MMA+Scars block foils for matching art style.

Oh man, this is not making it easier but you are correct.

I doubt I'll need SoFaI in Eldrazi, because I believe it's not the correct sword in that deck, but the deck is mostly modern framed so the Darksteel version is a bit more consistent than the Mirrodin one. It also plays Umezawa's Jitte, so as long as Jitte isn't properly foiled it will look even more out of place I think. I really want the promo though but I'm just afraid it will look bad with the rest. I used to have mirrodin foils and wasn't too impressed with how they look irl.

If I play MUD, Sword of Fire and Ice is the correct sword, but the promo has the fugly stamp even though that deck would benefit great from more old borders.

This is super hard. :)

[mini1337s]

Are you kidding? That's one heck of a deck!


Sure. In fact if I'd be playing any kind of old school Magic, it wouldn't be without IA and friends. There are so many beautiful cards in post-Dark expansions, and speaking of color fixation, Thawing Glaciers could help a bit for a fraction of buck.
Also, there comes quite some removal in form of Reprisal, Exile, Dark Banishing, even Contagion, in case you'd ned it. Necro is legal?
I did end up putting in Exile, but I never even though of Reprisal or Dark Banishing, both of those are probably sweet. Necro isn't bad, but I think it will be difficult to cast (just like Underworld Dreams is), and it might accidentally force some aggression my way. Right now, it's pretty easy to fly under the radar. I still need to get a Thawing Glacers, but it's been harder to find in nice condition than some Beta rares!
Appreciate the comments and Mox Monkey, love your decks as well. Both look like a blast, and I like that you are more creature reliant that I am. I think in an environment with multiple 93/94/95 era decks, it's definitely the way to go, but at the moment, I'm battling against any EDH deck (planewalkers are a bittttch).

[snorlaxcom]

So normally I know exactly what I want for pimp cards, but I'm struggling with Sword of X/Y. Do I take the judge foil or the mirrodin foil? I will be using it in legacy, but a lot of the deck is modern framed including expedition Eyes, Wastelands and Ancient Tombs (Eldrazi). I'll also be playing Eldrazi in Modern while I still can but probably won't use swords in that format.

Although I love the GP foils, Sword of Light and Shadow and Sword of Fire and Ice are differently foiled (I'll be needing a SoLaS, but it sucks that it is inconstent with SoFaI; SoFaI has the ugly ass DCI stamp that makes it worthless to me. Luckily the Sword of Feast and Famine is properly foiled like SoLaS). Price-wise I think modern framed swords can go higher, which you can see by the price for Crucible of Worlds.

I also play MUD and Stax which has old border foils like Metalworker and Grim Monolith, so reusing the GP Foils in that deck is a bit nicer than in the Eldrazi deck. I absolutely won't buy a GP AND a mirrodin foil. Magic has been expensive lately already :)

For equipment I'd go for DS version because it is a different kind of artifact and the distinction on the board state is more clear (ie not a lock piece in stax), plus I think it pairs better with equipment flavoring that is newer aged than a poop color. <==Another reason why judge crucible looks like ass.

[TinkerRobot]

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[Fry]

So normally I know exactly what I want for pimp cards, but I'm struggling with Sword of X/Y. Do I take the judge foil or the mirrodin foil? I will be using it in legacy, but a lot of the deck is modern framed including expedition Eyes, Wastelands and Ancient Tombs (Eldrazi). I'll also be playing Eldrazi in Modern while I still can but probably won't use swords in that format.

Although I love the GP foils, Sword of Light and Shadow and Sword of Fire and Ice are differently foiled (I'll be needing a SoLaS, but it sucks that it is inconstent with SoFaI; SoFaI has the ugly ass DCI stamp that makes it worthless to me. Luckily the Sword of Feast and Famine is properly foiled like SoLaS). Price-wise I think modern framed swords can go higher, which you can see by the price for Crucible of Worlds.

I also play MUD and Stax which has old border foils like Metalworker and Grim Monolith, so reusing the GP Foils in that deck is a bit nicer than in the Eldrazi deck. I absolutely won't buy a GP AND a mirrodin foil. Magic has been expensive lately already :)


For a deck that runs multiple swords I`d personally have consistency as priority #1. If you`re going to run L&S and F&I and no other ones, you`re lucky that both are in Darksteel and have the older, softer, more abstract art that imo is superior to Scars/MMA art. The old frame promo foils are nice, but I agree that the DCI watermark completely ruins F&I. I pick basically anything over cards with DCI/FNM/Arena/GP watermarks, including worn-ass white bordered cards, the only exception off the top of my head being FTV. That`s just me ofc.

So personally I would go for this setup:

Need only L&S and/or F&F -> Old border promo.
Need only F&I or F&I+L&S, but no other -> Darksteel pack foil.
Need other swords -> MMA+Scars block foils for matching art style.

Personally the DCI watermark doesn't bother me too much, it's not great looking, but it's not absolutely fugly like that enormous shooting star on things like Karakas.

For me it's old frame foil over the new frame foil every day of the week unless it's like the Bob with the fugly shooting star, I like the Noble Hierarchs though. I would love it if all of the old frame foils were done as they first were, or have the little shooting star where the set symbol typically goes like with the Noble.

For me I would do the Judge Promos where possible for all the swords, or all set foils if you are playing one that can't be, like Sword of War and Peace.

[AznSeal]

Asking for opinions but id probably end up getting both.

I have my playset of the original FoWs. I was about to commission a language swap for them into S-chinese until I heard about the announcement. SO...

which would do have?

S-Chinese foil new FoW, or altered into Chinese original FoWs

[Quasim0ff]

Asking for opinions but id probably end up getting both.

I have my playset of the original FoWs. I was about to commission a language swap for them into S-chinese until I heard about the announcement. SO...

which would do have?

S-Chinese foil new FoW, or altered into Chinese original FoWs

This is not really a question.

Obviously the original one. Old art >>> New Art >>> Judge art (So much potential, so much ruined by the border!!!)

[MGB]

People asking about the basics of pimp :O

Foil>Cool promo foil>Non foil>Shitty foil

No language>Russian>Korean>Japanese>Chinese>European/Eng

Original artwork>No artwork>Amazing not original artwork>Crappy non original artwork

Signed>Unsigned

Original print>Reprint

SUmmer>BB>WB

But its pretty much all about what you want in your deck, for example picking a card like Birds of Paradise, the Poole art is nuts, the 7e foil japanese are insane as always, man even the promo art from terese is super good, i would like all 3 of them in different ways, based on the rest of the deck.
As far as im concerned there are only few things that ill never consider, mostly based on the glossy FTV foil

Where do you fit the new Expedition lands into that heirarchy?

[Koby]

Where do you fit the new Expedition lands into that heirarchy?

They fit nicely into the trash can. :laugh:

[bruizar]

This is not really a question.

Obviously the original one. Old art >>> New Art >>> Judge art (So much potential, so much ruined by the border!!!)

That certainly depends on whether or not you have judge mana drains to pair with them, then again I'd go for Judge foil FoWs before any other FoW.

[Quasim0ff]

That certainly depends on whether or not you have judge mana drains to pair with them, then again I'd go for Judge foil FoWs before any other FoW.

The new border is poop. If it was old border judge foil, I'd agree. I like the new artwork, I just think the border ruins it a lot.

[bruizar]

Where do you fit the new Expedition lands into that heirarchy?

I don't know why people hating on expeditions. Eye of Ugin is amazing IRL, I've since acquired a playset. Misty Rainforest looks like the opening scene of Secret of Mana and I saw a pimped out standard deck with Canopy Vista and Prairie Streams. I know these lands are crappy but they looked pimp as hell. Standard pimp, what a concept...

I'm a fan of expeditions.

[AznSeal]

I don't know why people hating on expeditions. Eye of Ugin is amazing IRL, I've since acquired a playset. Misty Rainforest looks like the opening scene of Secret of Mana and I saw a pimped out standard deck with Canopy Vista and Prairie Streams. I know these lands are crappy but they looked pimp as hell. Standard pimp, what a concept...

I'm a fan of expeditions.

Different folks different strokes I guess.

Personally I don't mind the expeditions, I'm just not a fan of full art. I purposely chose s-chinese foil Khanslaught fetchlands over the originals because the new foiling makes altering them look much prettier.

[Quasim0ff]

I don't know why people hating on expeditions. Eye of Ugin is amazing IRL, I've since acquired a playset. Misty Rainforest looks like the opening scene of Secret of Mana and I saw a pimped out standard deck with Canopy Vista and Prairie Streams. I know these lands are crappy but they looked pimp as hell. Standard pimp, what a concept...

I'm a fan of expeditions.

Some of the expeditions look incredible. Some of them do NOT look good, though :D

Misty is gorgeous, yeah!

[bruizar]

Some of the expeditions look incredible. Some of them do NOT look good, though :D

Misty is gorgeous, yeah!

I haven't seen all of them yet. My favorite ones are Eye of Ugin, Misty Rainforest and Fire-Lit Thicket. The tango lands are all pretty bad online but as beautiful a standard pimp card can get irl

[nedleeds]

I don't know why people hating on expeditions.

Because if you are a foil pimp you'd just have set foils. Reprint foils are spinning rims on a '05 Hyundai.

[Echelon]

So... I've got something to share.

http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/46593/ad0c5a465920706.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/ad0c5a465920706)

Rhinos by Matt! Arrived in the mail a couple of days ago, already love them dearly.

[warai]

I don't know why people hating on expeditions. Eye of Ugin is amazing IRL, I've since acquired a playset. Misty Rainforest looks like the opening scene of Secret of Mana and I saw a pimped out standard deck with Canopy Vista and Prairie Streams. I know these lands are crappy but they looked pimp as hell. Standard pimp, what a concept...

I'm a fan of expeditions.

Couldn't agree more. Misty Rainforest and Scalding Tarn expeditions are just things of beauty. Polluted Delta also looks great but original Onslaught Rob Alexander artwork is way too good.

Expeditions are WotC cash grabs no doubt about that but they are still awesome. I hope they keep printing this premium versions of cards. Who wouldn't want an expedition Jace TMS :) ?

[Bobmans]

Couldn't agree more. Misty Rainforest and Scalding Tarn expeditions are just things of beauty. Polluted Delta also looks great but original Onslaught Rob Alexander artwork is way too good.

Expeditions are WotC cash grabs no doubt about that but they are still awesome. I hope they keep printing this premium versions of cards. Who wouldn't want an expedition Jace TMS :) ?
Nothing wrong with the artworks, it is the lay-out that stands out waaay to much.

[JohnGalt]

Asking for opinions but id probably end up getting both.

I have my playset of the original FoWs. I was about to commission a language swap for them into S-chinese until I heard about the announcement. SO...

which would do have?

S-Chinese foil new FoW, or altered into Chinese original FoWs

Simplified Chinese foils, without any doubt. Language alterations are very seedy in my opinion.

[r3dd09]

I'm alive, just not super active.

http://imgur.com/fUHXqSDl.jpg

[bruizar]

I'm alive, just not super active.

http://imgur.com/fUHXqSDl.jpg

Can you disclose how much you pay for rarities like this? And what kind of a job you have? Super pimp.


--

I have more pimp questions concerning Swords. I've since discarded judge promo swords as an option due to consistency errors between SoLaS and SoFaI (foiling isn't the same).

Now, to my next surprise I saw that Modern Masters SoFaI and SoLaS command a much higher price than the original ones. I completely missed this, but this is due to the fact that the Modern Masters versions of SoFaI and SoLaS are adapted to the SoBaM, SoFaF and SoWaP artwork and layout. So for true consistency I'd have to go with Modern Masters foils, except the original artwork is so classy...

I doubt I'll go for SoWaP SoBaM or SoFaF any time soon, but you don't want to one day come to the conclusion that you need those too.

Agh, this is so hard :) Help!

[r3dd09]

Can you disclose how much you pay for rarities like this? And what kind of a job you have? Super pimp.

I got this WAY under market value. I quit my real job a year and a half ago. I've been living off of buying and selling magic since.

[phonics]

I got this WAY under market value. I quit my real job a year and a half ago. I've been living off of buying and selling magic since.

Is liquidity ever and issue?

[r3dd09]

Is liquidity ever and issue?

Yes and no. It depends on what you bought something for and your connections/network.

I specialize in high-end stuff, so I would have an easier time moving this stuff over a regular brick and mortar store.

[Afro]

David Mills - Tongo Nation. Pro Tour Chicago 1997.
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg84/jpalm84/20160218_151358.jpg (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/jpalm84/media/20160218_151358.jpg.html)
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg84/jpalm84/20160218_151650.jpg (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/jpalm84/media/20160218_151650.jpg.html)
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg84/jpalm84/20160218_152000.jpg (http://s246.photobucket.com/user/jpalm84/media/20160218_152000.jpg.html)

[Amon Amarth]

RKF has such a sweet signature. I've never seen that before.

[Quasim0ff]

I'm alive, just not super active.

http://imgur.com/fUHXqSDl.jpg

That price was so dumb. Like, way under half price.

Congratulations!

[Seraphix]

...

I have more pimp questions concerning Swords. I've since discarded judge promo swords as an option due to consistency errors between SoLaS and SoFaI (foiling isn't the same).

Now, to my next surprise I saw that Modern Masters SoFaI and SoLaS command a much higher price than the original ones. I completely missed this, but this is due to the fact that the Modern Masters versions of SoFaI and SoLaS are adapted to the SoBaM, SoFaF and SoWaP artwork and layout. So for true consistency I'd have to go with Modern Masters foils, except the original artwork is so classy...

I doubt I'll go for SoWaP SoBaM or SoFaF any time soon, but you don't want to one day come to the conclusion that you need those too.

Agh, this is so hard :) Help!

I had the same "problem" when pimping my Stoneforge package.

At first I wanted to get the Judge Swords since I love old border foils, but clashing with the new Swords/Jitte/Batterskull became a knock-out.

For pack foils I decided to go with the new ones for consistency's sake, even though I prefer the old arts.

http://i.imgur.com/aRjTf6N.jpg

So, I don't think my choice is necessarily the most pimp or best looking, but I'm very pleased with its consistency.

[bruizar]

Thanks a lot. This helps tremendously and it explains the crazy price on the MM foils. Looking good!

[CutthroatCasual]

I'm alive, just not super active.

http://imgur.com/fUHXqSDl.jpg

Almost choked on my tea.

[Havrekjex]

Almost choked on my tea.I was like "Why bother with the case for an Unlim… SUMMER? … 9.5!?!?!"

[sdematt]

I'll be posting pimped out RGBSA shortly. Stay tuned!

Echelon: Thanks ;)

[Echelon]

Echelon: Thanks ;)

You're more than welcome.

[Koby]

For pack foils I decided to go with the new ones for consistency's sake, even though I prefer the old arts.

So, I don't think my choice is necessarily the most pimp or best looking, but I'm very pleased with its consistency.

While I can appreciate staying with the theme, how do you reconcile the fact that half the swords have a watermark, and Batterskull with the watermark vs Jitte without? IMO that is worse than the shooting star.

[KindGrind]

@Afro

Beautiful deck from 1997, showing the world the power of Kjeldoran Outpost. Love the signature sub-theme as well!

This is my pimpless 93/94 project. Notice the absolute absence of pimp. If I get even a single Beta basic, I'm doomed and so is my marriage, downward spiral style.

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/9c3a/3k33ud847tud7636g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?3k33ud847tud763)

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

This is my pimpless 93/94 project. Notice the absolute absence of pimp. If I get even a single Beta basic, I'm doomed and so is my marriage, downward spiral style.


i feel you've missed the point of the pimp thread or you're trying to trigger the 93/94 elitist

If it's the second, bravo.

[death]

Main sixty — All Japanese Alpha/Beta/Foils Reanimator

http://i.imgur.com/HyMG0JQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a1mEt02.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/545ZW9J.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/meSWjkp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4qxBysI.jpg


Alternate build — Chancellor of the Annex/Basics/Divider

http://i.imgur.com/DOMhGXX.jpg
#harleyquinn

[mini1337s]

@Afro

Beautiful deck from 1997, showing the world the power of Kjeldoran Outpost. Love the signature sub-theme as well!

This is my pimpless 93/94 project. Notice the absolute absence of pimp. If I get even a single Beta basic, I'm doomed and so is my marriage, downward spiral style.

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/9c3a/3k33ud847tud7636g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?3k33ud847tud763)

Sharpies can fix that Simon! Super cost effective when upgrading to Beta! Toenail clippers are a solid investment too if you want to turn your new Beta cards into Alpha.

Looking good though man, glad to see the cards going to good use!

[Whippoorwill]

Main sixty — All Japanese Alpha/Beta/Foils Reanimator

Beautiful deck, but the Animate Deads annoy me since they can be FBB Japanese. Alternately, if Alpha/Beta is priority over Japanese, then the Rituals should be Alpha/Beta.

[keys]

Beautiful deck, but the Animate Deads annoy me since they can be FBB Japanese. Alternately, if Alpha/Beta is priority over Japanese, then the Rituals should be Alpha/Beta.

Man that is OCD. Who cares it's a beautiful deck.

[KindGrind]

Beautiful deck, Death... Those Beta Duals... should definitely be upgraded to Unlimited!

Pimp is in the eye of the beholder, after all. =)

[snorlaxcom]

Because if you are a foil pimp you'd just have set foils. Reprint foils are spinning rims on a '05 Hyundai.



http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/deathbattle/images/1/1d/Daniel-bryan-yes-yes-yes-wallpaper.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151010163841

[MoxMonkey]

Another random pile I picked up today:
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/juzam007/12743500_10208403418139888_4459304353220347449_n_zpsgxgdgeyx.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/juzam007/media/12743500_10208403418139888_4459304353220347449_n_zpsgxgdgeyx.jpg.html)

[Ryu]

Those Dark Rituals are so beautiful... How much did you get them for?

[MoxMonkey]

Those Dark Rituals are so beautiful... How much did you get them for?

Less than 20. And are very extra.

[Holynorth]

Because if you are a foil pimp you'd just have set foils. Reprint foils are spinning rims on a '05 Hyundai.

Is this the general consensus? I'm foiling out all my decks and was curious. How do judge promos fit into this? (Dark Confidants and Fetchlands) How about the new expeditions?

[Ancestral]

Is this the general consensus? I'm foiling out all my decks and was curious. How do judge promos fit into this? (Dark Confidants and Fetchlands) How about the new expeditions?

I like Judge promos, for exemple swords and cruicible because old frame foil, for me, is the best foil ! And personally dont like expeditions.

[Holynorth]

I like Judge promos, for exemple swords and cruicible because old frame foil, for me, is the best foil ! And personally dont like expeditions.

I think I agree. I'm finishing my Jund deck (it's already foiled out, just upgrading things), and am going to upgrade my MM confidants to either pack foils or judge foils (probably judge for the borders) and then my MPR bolts to judge foils as well.

Besides alpha duals, I'll be done.

Edit: I remember that judge confidants have that terrible shooting star. Now I have to think about this...

[iamajellydonut]

judge confidants

http://i.imgur.com/RPYb4Nc.png

[Holynorth]

http://i.imgur.com/RPYb4Nc.png


Are pack foils preferred over the judge promos around here (In regards to Bob)?

[Ace/Homebrew]

Are pack foils preferred over the judge promos around here (In regards to Bob)?
Does it seriously matter?

http://cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2015/10/03/635794626163910291459659780_59547754.jpg

[Holynorth]

Yes, I'd say it matters a lot.

[iamajellydonut]

Are pack foils preferred over the judge promos around here (In regards to Bob)?

I'm pretty firmly in the "never promo, never surrender" camp. There's only a handful of reprints/promos that I'm actually willing to condone, and almost all of them are based on a flaw of the original card that's been fixed to a tremendous degree on the reprint. Bloodbraid Elf, Circle of Protection: Red, and Reclamation Sage stand out as prime examples. All of the original printings look like complete shit while the replacement retains the same border but with drastically improved art. Another thing I'm willing to "ok", despite my indifference for foils, are the truly og FNM promos like Chill. Printed only shortly after the original printing with the only change of the card face being set symbol and sheen.

[Ace/Homebrew]

Yes, I'd say it matters a lot.

Pack Foil Russian or you're doing it wrong!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-FOIL-Russian-Dark-Confidant-MTG-Ravnica-Kid-Icarus-/191416921630

[Holynorth]

Pack Foil Russian or you're doing it wrong!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-FOIL-Russian-Dark-Confidant-MTG-Ravnica-Kid-Icarus-/191416921630

Wow. What a gorgeous yet incredibly dangerous road to go down. Someday hopefully.

[Quasim0ff]

Is this the general consensus? I'm foiling out all my decks and was curious. How do judge promos fit into this? (Dark Confidants and Fetchlands) How about the new expeditions?

Wrt Bob and Fetches: Fetches are a no-go, but Bob is okay due to the old border.

Expeditions are only okay if it's something like Ancient tomb, where no other foil is decent.

[Garobidou]

Miracle !

http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2016/02/22//16022209435821236313997245.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=16022209435821236313997245.jpg)

[Noctalor]

Miracle !

I would prefer some extra protection, a PSA case for each card could be the way to go!

[CutthroatCasual]

>mixing languages (when same-language versions exist)

Come on... You know better than that.

[Ryu]

Pack Foil Russian or you're doing it wrong!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-FOIL-Russian-Dark-Confidant-MTG-Ravnica-Kid-Icarus-/191416921630

$2k and you can't offer free shipping? Come on...

[Esper3k]

Slow work in progress, but finished some playsets today (sorry for the glare, I'm too lazy to take everything out of the perfect fits just for a photo):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eG9-N8CLuFo/VsyuXNIReII/AAAAAAAAGFY/T8I5hZLevfU/s800-Ic42/German%252520Foil%252520Fetches%252520-%2525202.jpg

[bruizar]

Love the strands!

[socialite]

Pack Foil Russian or you're doing it wrong!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-FOIL-Russian-Dark-Confidant-MTG-Ravnica-Kid-Icarus-/191416921630

I wish KI would post that as an auction, especially since the first few that went up years ago were shill bid to shit. I'd love to see an actual price point for that card but I guess this is the end result to hype.market.

[guillemnicolau]

Best way to play a lotus...
http://i.imgur.com/EQk6heJ.jpg?2
and yes, that's an unlimited savannah lions, some people sell unlimited cards as revised... now I have to get another one :mad:

[Goin Aggro]

Miracle !


Can we get a close-up of those brainstorms?

[jamesh]

I wish KI would post that as an auction, especially since the first few that went up years ago were shill bid to shit. I'd love to see an actual price point for that card but I guess this is the end result to hype.market.

High end foreign language foils almost never go up for auction at no reserve because they NEVER reach the BIN prices - usually they go for half that. Russ foil Gris went for about 460 US recently, Emrakul went for 1500 last year, I bought BOB a few years ago for 700. This card would not go over 1000 at ebay auction, that's why KI isn't putting it up.

[thecrav]

Best way to play a lotus...
http://i.imgur.com/EQk6heJ.jpg?2
and yes, that's an unlimited savannah lions, some people sell unlimited cards as revised... now I have to get another one :mad:

This makes me happy. Now leave them all in the sun for a couple months so they get even more white!

[Rome]

Best way to play a lotus...

and yes, that's an unlimited savannah lions, some people sell unlimited cards as revised... now I have to get another one :mad:

But in white weenie you ned a Jihad too. Against the Crusade

http://img5.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/ql10slz7yb0rok.jpg

[guillemnicolau]

This makes me happy. Now leave them all in the sun for a couple months so they get even more white!
I would do it but...
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/starpolar/images/6/6b/Notime.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150225125846


But in white weenie you need a Jihad too. Against the Crusade
I would play that only for flavor purposes xD but it's not WB...

[Davran]

Best way to play a lotus...

*sweet white weenie deck*

and yes, that's an unlimited savannah lions, some people sell unlimited cards as revised... now I have to get another one :mad:

Man that really takes me back to the good old days. Sweet deck!

[gRR!!]

Guillemnicolau, you made me feel dirty in a strange way :confused::confused::confused:

Anyway! Today in Super Secret Tech (http://ooh---shiny.blogspot.com/), a Legacy deck full of counters, tokens and hate!

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/gRR_RRg/2016022401%20Mentor%20Miracles%201_zps1gy7uz5p.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/gRR_RRg/2016022402%20Mentor%20Miracles%202_zpsep7lz9wr.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/gRR_RRg/2016022403%20Mentor%20Miracles%203_zpshdmnjyfy.jpg

Here's the side:

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb224/gRR_RRg/2016022413%20Mentor%20Miracles%20-%20Sideboard_zpsansw6auw.jpg

More miraculous (sorry, I couldn't help myself) in Super Secret Tech (http://ooh---shiny.blogspot.com/). Enjoy!

[Bobmans]

Guillemnicolau, you made me feel dirty in a strange way :confused::confused::confused:

More miraculous (sorry, I couldn't help myself) in Super Secret Tech (http://ooh---shiny.blogspot.com/). Enjoy!

Nooooo; Dig Through Time???
Love those Mentors and Michael Sutfin has defenitly done better signatures.

[Undomian]

Nooooo; Dig Through Time???
Love those Mentors and Michael Sutfin has defenitly done better signatures.


Card's insane, I can't understand why nobody is playing it. :laugh: /s

[guillemnicolau]

Guillemnicolau, you made me feel dirty in a strange way :confused::confused::confused:
That's what she said... (I guess not many chicks will read this xD)

People in his blog gRR clearly says that the deck the winner of a local league from Sept'15.

[Plague Sliver]

Yeah. I'm still sad I picked up these babies right before the banhammer. I suppose I'll rock them in Vintage...if I ever play Vintage one day.

http://i.imgur.com/6JDhthYl.png

[Rascalyote]

Potato quality image for a potato quality deck :).

Still missing-

1 Foil Verdant Catacombs
2 Beta Savannah
1 Beta Bayou
1 Beta Scrubland

http://s852.photobucket.com/user/Colin_Whitwell/media/Maverick1.jpg.html

the cards to the left of Verdant catacombs are Windswept Heaths (Khans, inb4 ew)

PS- I forgot how to just make the image show

[sdematt]

Potato quality image for a potato quality deck :).

Still missing-

1 Foil Verdant Catacombs
2 Beta Savannah
1 Beta Bayou
1 Beta Scrubland

http://s852.photobucket.com/user/Colin_Whitwell/media/Maverick1.jpg.html

the cards to the left of Verdant catacombs are Windswept Heaths (Khans, inb4 ew)

PS- I forgot how to just make the image show

Almost there, Colin ;)

[Ryu]

Can someone list the language scale for most pimp? I can get almost my entire deck in Italian but Hymn to Touarch. :mad:

[Bobmans]

Can someone list the language scale for most pimp? I can get almost my entire deck in Italian but Hymn to Touarch. :mad:
You kind of asked that already and also got an answer;

Sum; russian > korean > japanese > chinese > german > english > other euro




Do we have a basic guide on pimping? I am looking to expand my pimpage in my BUG Delver deck and alpha duals arent doing it for me. I also want it to be tournament playable.




People asking about the basics of pimp :O

Foil>Cool promo foil>Non foil>Shitty foil

No language>Russian>Korean>Japanese>Chinese>European/Eng

Original artwork>No artwork>Amazing not original artwork>Crappy non original artwork

Signed>Unsigned

Original print>Reprint

SUmmer>BB>WB

But its pretty much all about what you want in your deck, for example picking a card like Birds of Paradise, the Poole art is nuts, the 7e foil japanese are insane as always, man even the promo art from terese is super good, i would like all 3 of them in different ways, based on the rest of the deck.
As far as im concerned there are only few things that ill never consider, mostly based on the glossy FTV foil

[Ryu]

You kind of asked that already and also got an answer;

Sum; russian > korean > japanese > chinese > german > english > other euro

Thanks totally forgot about that.

[bruizar]

You kind of asked that already and also got an answer;

Sum; russian > korean > japanese > chinese > german > english > other euro

I can agree on a lot of things, but signed cards are def not pimp in my book.

For me its:
Altered in full color by original artist with gold-leaf > Mint > Signed > Altered

[Bobmans]

I can agree on a lot of things, but signed cards are def not pimp in my book.

For me its:
Altered in full color by original artist with gold-leaf > Mint > Signed > Altered

Not sure what your getting at, but he was asking about language's.

[JohnGalt]

Can someone list the language scale for most pimp? I can get almost my entire deck in Italian but Hymn to Touarch. :mad:


You kind of asked that already and also got an answer;

Sum; russian > korean > japanese > chinese > german > english > other euro

That's completely subjective. And it also depends on the card. For example, I'd take old TCH (up to Odyssey) and SCH (up to Darksteel) over Japanese, but I prefer Japanese for more recent (or earlier) cards.

And English is the least pimp language for me. It's the most common language for Magic and it doesn't feel exotic. For English native speakers maybe it's higher on their pimp scale, as they prefer their own language (just as I like Spanish cards). For Asian players/collectors, English may be attractive as it's exotic for them.

In summary for me it would be something like: Korean, Old TCH, old SCH, Japanese, new TCH, new SCH, Russian, Spanish, Portuguese, German, French, Italian, English.

[Rocco111]

Actually I'd like someone to enlighten me in regards of the preference in Pimp for Legends...
Most -if not the vast majority- of players out there prefer EN over IT but if one looks for rarity, then it is a complete non-sense.
Since IT was the only language available outside EN for Legends, the Italian print run is by far less important than EN and so.... O_o

[JohnGalt]

Actually I'd like someone to enlighten me in regards of the preference in Pimp for Legends...
Most -if not the vast majority- of players out there prefer EN over IT but if one looks for rarity, then it is a complete non-sense.
Since IT was the only language available outside EN for Legends, the Italian print run is by far less important than EN and so.... O_o

I'm not sure of how big is the Italian print run in comparison with the English one. But supply is just one of the factors. Just think about Portuguese foils, they are super rare but nearly nobody pays a premium for them over English ones (they are usually cheaper actually).

[jamesh]

Actually I've found English foils to be amongst the most popular. The contemporary Chinese font is ugly. Some cards actually match the font. So Griselbrand looks great in Russian and Elesh Norn looks good in Japanese.

[JohnGalt]

Actually I've found English foils to be amongst the most popular. The contemporary Chinese font is ugly. Some cards actually match the font. So Griselbrand looks great in Russian and Elesh Norn looks good in Japanese.

English cards, both foils and regular, are the most liquid ones by far. But that's another topic.

[Ancestral]

Language, Above all, its the most subjctive point in pimp i would say! I like foiling my deck in english because it looks very Clean, also its very difficult (impossible most of the times) to have 100% of your decks in non english foils

[Ryu]

For example, I'd take old TCH (up to Odyssey) and SCH (up to Darksteel) over Japanese.

Could you elaborate on what this means? I don't understand the acronyms.

[H]

Could you elaborate on what this means? I don't understand the acronyms.

Pretty sure he mean Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese.

[Pilhas]

Could you elaborate on what this means? I don't understand the acronyms.

Traditional Chinese
Simplified Chinese

[bruizar]

Not sure what your getting at, but he was asking about language's.

I was trying to quote something from his quote, namely:


Originally Posted by Noctalor View Post
People asking about the basics of pimp :O

Foil>Cool promo foil>Non foil>Shitty foil

No language>Russian>Korean>Japanese>Chinese>European/Eng

Original artwork>No artwork>Amazing not original artwork>Crappy non original artwork

Signed>Unsigned

Original print>Reprint

SUmmer>BB>WB

But its pretty much all about what you want in your deck, for example picking a card like Birds of Paradise, the Poole art is nuts, the 7e foil japanese are insane as always, man even the promo art from terese is super good, i would like all 3 of them in different ways, based on the rest of the deck.
As far as im concerned there are only few things that ill never consider, mostly based on the glossy FTV foil

I only go for English foils. I want to be able to read my cards, besides when you live in Europe and play against people with mismatching French, Italian and German cards and have to judge call every time some player uses an obscure sideboard card, between sensei's divining top, ponder, sfm, fetch lands and other shuffle effects, you lose precious minutes in the round and draw because of it. Jap foil I can appreciate, but the other non-English languages to me are worthless. German in particular, given the language is so close to Dutch the card names just sound stupid to my ears.

[JohnGalt]

Language, Above all, its the most subjctive point in pimp i would say! I like foiling my deck in english because it looks very Clean, also its very difficult (impossible most of the times) to have 100% of your decks in non english foils

Japanese is also easy. The rest of languages, not so much. It depends on the deck, of course.

[JohnGalt]

Could you elaborate on what this means? I don't understand the acronyms.

TCH is Traditional Chinese. SCH, Simplified.

[Ancestral]

Japanese is also easy. The rest of languages, not so much. It depends on the deck, of course.
It is but still if you playing duals you cant foil them and cant get them japanese...my ocd Cant rest this way xD

[JohnGalt]

It is but still if you playing duals you cant foil them and cant get them japanese...my ocd Cant rest this way xD

Well, that's the price to pay to use foil Japanese cards :) That problem is even bigger with Korean, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese and Russian. If you want uniformity, you need your deck in English.

[Warr]

I'm not sure of how big is the Italian print run in comparison with the English one. But supply is just one of the factors. Just think about Portuguese foils, they are super rare but nearly nobody pays a premium for them over English ones (they are usually cheaper actually).

Sources from a quick Google search put the Italian print run about 10% smaller than the English one, although I could have sworn that it was actually larger.

Personally, I like the deeper color of the old FBBs compared to English (when I can't get them in Japanese) despite the fact they are approximately 25-50% less but that's just me.

[Ryu]

This has probably been discussed but I am to lazy to search for it. If you had an all english deck would you go for the new art pack foil FoW or judge promos? How about wasteland? The player rewards looks decent compared to the ugly DCI symbols.

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

Player rewards wasteland all the way man, EM art looks aight though.

[thecrav]

Player rewards wasteland all the way man, EM art looks aight though.

Incidentally, the prices on these are pretty low due to the EMA announcement so if you're interested, I'd jump on 'em.

[CutthroatCasual]

Not sure why; those are the pinnacle of Wasteland pimpage.

[Koby]

Incidentally, the prices on these are pretty low due to the EMA announcement so if you're interested, I'd jump on 'em.

Tell me about it. I could have bought those Wastelands $400 cheaper by waiting. That will show me to be a go getter.

[jrsthethird]

Not sure why; those are the pinnacle of Wasteland pimpage.

Because not everyone has the same opinion?

Casuals eat up Expeditions.

[jamesh]

I actually think Korean ones are classier.

[JohnGalt]

This has probably been discussed but I am to lazy to search for it. If you had an all english deck would you go for the new art pack foil FoW or judge promos? How about wasteland? The player rewards looks decent compared to the ugly DCI symbols.

I think I'd just play the original Alliances ones. I don't like reprints (except in very exceptional cases, like Mercadian Masques Brainstorm, Gateway Path to Exile, 7th Edition foils...) nor the new frame.

About Wasteland, if it has to be in English, either Tempest or MPR. Anything printed later sucks.


I actually think Korean ones are classier.

+1

[CutthroatCasual]

http://i.imgur.com/pENTfKNl.jpg

The others are in the mail. Will take a deck pic when everything is assembled.

[bruizar]

Another pimp question...


Ojutai's Command regular or buy a box promo? I'm leaning towards regular but the BoB looks fantastic

[Quasim0ff]

Another pimp question...


Ojutai's Command regular or buy a box promo? I'm leaning towards regular but the BoB looks fantastic

original.

Original > Promo.

[chemicalstylez]

those beta volcs and tundras on last page :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Claymore1]

No foils, or signed stuff, or foreign cards, not really a fan of those.
But made a few "upgrades" to my pet deck that I've been playing since 2010.
I hope some of you may like this.
I feel a lot of pride and love for the deck when I play it. :laugh:

http://s11.postimg.org/mlrxlr16r/image1.jpg

http://s27.postimg.org/z1gfk5uk3/image2.jpg

http://s28.postimg.org/wmtpk95kd/image3.jpg

http://s22.postimg.org/7a1bgbmxt/image4.jpg

http://s18.postimg.org/8hygjhseh/image5.jpg

EDIT 1: Waaah! Sorry it came out too big, let me figure out how to make it smaller.
EDIT 2: I apologize I don't know how to make it smaller. :(
EDIT 3: I found an alternate way, haha, sorry I',m so noob at these things. :)

Anyway, after all that trouble hope you all enjoy or like it. :laugh:

[CutthroatCasual]

Just post the picture. We're all smart enough to right-click open image in new tab.

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

I don't think you have enough guru lands.

[Ryu]

Where does the pimpage climax for basic lands? Are gurus the best? How do you feel about the foil judge lands?

[mini1337s]

Where does the pimpage climax for basic lands? Are gurus the best? How do you feel about the foil judge lands?
Miscut, quad signed Summer is the only thing that is adequate. Alternatively, miscut US currency, carefully folded and triple-sleeved:
http://oldcurrencyvalues.com/images/35465127.jpg

Whatever you enjoy the most. Personally, well-centered, NM Alpha or Simplified Chinese Portal 1 are maximum pimp. Also a sucker for Korean Urza's Saga. Never got that hard for Copyright 1994, but I can appreciate Gurus.
If Judge foils give you a stiffy, use Judge foil. I think some people frown on them as they are relatively easy to acquire, but if you think they are cool, use them.

[CutthroatCasual]

To me, pinnacle of basic land pimp is ©1994. I think Gurus are tacky and don't look that good. I run these in my Miracles deck:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/euro/7.jpg http://magiccards.info/scans/en/euro/9.jpg

I think these (Euro and APAC) look better than any other basic land art seeing as they're based on real places, and WotC doesn't allow artists to draw land art like this anymore.

[JohnGalt]

Where does the pimpage climax for basic lands? Are gurus the best? How do you feel about the foil judge lands?

It depends on the rest of the deck. I'd say Alpha, but for a foil deck, you'd probably want to run foil lands.

[Douif]

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/euro/7.jpg http://magiccards.info/scans/en/euro/9.jpg



Those lands are gorgeous. Did someone already see a card signed by Eric Peterson ?

[Goin Aggro]

Because not everyone has the same opinion?

Casuals eat up Expeditions.

Filthy, Filthy Casualses!

[thecrav]

Sold out of most of my legacy foils at GP Houston. Moving to all oldest printing (or best art, which is usually oldest printing) English.

Acquisition 1, and the main project of the weekend. Funded ~40% by selling foils and extras of cards. I managed to come in $100 under my planned budget for these:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcWWDpdUEAAS_UD.jpg

Acquisition 2, because he was there and I love this playmat:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcWVD-pUAAAScMD.jpg

Acquisition 3, because I randomly found great deals on these on eBay and why shouldn't they have some ink on them!?:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcWVeUiVAAAgYO3.jpg

Acquisition 4, I think I'm going to be playing Bant for the next month or so:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcWVSNoUUAAsNLr.jpg

Also turned 7* rounds of vintage into a sealed FTV:Angels, which means I have every sealed FTV except Dragons.

[Dice_Box]

Nothing like a good Shop. Very nice.

[bop2]

Post of the year imo. Love everything in it.

[Esper3k]

My own fancypants pickup from the weekend.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/z4nKsA5sKT0bfFz6I4IBSNHc6iqs3X5OTZdNO_NdAhT2mrTJRiRwnGhsY66a2lyZn-v8B-dxnQoD0vcublIQFv6fhjqiknJqF_q-cdNjrJ1iqjEhWGh46RDRBV3i_1L7rXD4sxHM58I_n5SUpAIXssoV4B4TfwJpZkg58EOH5Fgo4YYrZMllLzWt_CqKS48W-d2GkdbEvK_5SJOsqN8_2FPvykC-xNK5JheJp3NA21TOGwlzt2L5B1SoTqCdPHCq6e1x4QE-tpQtl6OrSQTIIOeuTa_SqwV0Apnt5oTpR0MUbvvpMZuatVDts6JaYlVeXiatGakKaZi40SQJ7-xJs9rS73Y_pnxqnZYLV_5PkGq29XwQg029giWI5SEIx0piGzCxM3uP1oTGmcmLNnSc_Gn_NaydQ2TJB2rdKKxpm1hAl9OgacGg-fcS8DsBO44kuRYyyRSEQBE0yGLklZpyCTA6oPes_NB-9dsAThg3DdjVULAzxs0irafOyMc1841MXx220OU_3HiYndz9PKi8WeYtOzfEWO0DZDtwiNE-QlZ97xWdZN44VECU2o3lX7wx8OXM=w724-h965-no

Thanks again to Travis for the hookup!

[Quasim0ff]

My own fancypants pickup from the weekend.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/z4nKsA5sKT0bfFz6I4IBSNHc6iqs3X5OTZdNO_NdAhT2mrTJRiRwnGhsY66a2lyZn-v8B-dxnQoD0vcublIQFv6fhjqiknJqF_q-cdNjrJ1iqjEhWGh46RDRBV3i_1L7rXD4sxHM58I_n5SUpAIXssoV4B4TfwJpZkg58EOH5Fgo4YYrZMllLzWt_CqKS48W-d2GkdbEvK_5SJOsqN8_2FPvykC-xNK5JheJp3NA21TOGwlzt2L5B1SoTqCdPHCq6e1x4QE-tpQtl6OrSQTIIOeuTa_SqwV0Apnt5oTpR0MUbvvpMZuatVDts6JaYlVeXiatGakKaZi40SQJ7-xJs9rS73Y_pnxqnZYLV_5PkGq29XwQg029giWI5SEIx0piGzCxM3uP1oTGmcmLNnSc_Gn_NaydQ2TJB2rdKKxpm1hAl9OgacGg-fcS8DsBO44kuRYyyRSEQBE0yGLklZpyCTA6oPes_NB-9dsAThg3DdjVULAzxs0irafOyMc1841MXx220OU_3HiYndz9PKi8WeYtOzfEWO0DZDtwiNE-QlZ97xWdZN44VECU2o3lX7wx8OXM=w724-h965-no

Thanks again to Travis for the hookup!
*Pheeeeeew* (aka whistling). Those are hot as fuck.

[Ancestral]

Well, that's the price to pay to use foil Japanese cards :) That problem is even bigger with Korean, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese and Russian. If you want uniformity, you need your deck in English.
its true, this weekend i bought 3 japanese foil infernal tutor, (BTW if anyone knows where i can find the 4rd i ll be gratfull) and to put ANT foil i don[t know if i go with polluted delta english foil from onslaught or KTK japanese foil, i like more the old foil, but cant find those in japanese ( for a decent price ). the struggle!!

[JohnGalt]

its true, this weekend i bought 3 japanese foil infernal tutor, (BTW if anyone knows where i can find the 4rd i ll be gratfull) and to put ANT foil i don[t know if i go with polluted delta english foil from onslaught or KTK japanese foil, i like more the old foil, but cant find those in japanese ( for a decent price ). the struggle!!

You must have Onslaught foil Japanese ones then :)

[Ancestral]

You must have Onslaught foil Japanese ones then :)

Well that would be perfect! But can't find 1 for less Than 4 figures, so its Very hard to assemble the playset :/ and the alternative its Either japanese foil ktk or onslaught english foil. Can't decide

[phonics]

Well that would be perfect! But can't find 1 for less Than 4 figures, so its Very hard to assemble the playset :/ and the alternative its Either japanese foil ktk or onslaught english foil. Can't decide

ONS simplified chinese is the prettiest imo, why did they have to switch it to the blocky mess it is now?

[JohnGalt]

ONS simplified chinese is the prettiest imo, why did they have to switch it to the blocky mess it is now?

+1, I love old TCH and SCH...

[Ancestral]

+1, I love old TCH and SCH...
They are gourgeous too. Another struglle is Lotus petal foil ftv or japanese tempest (i own japanese already ) ?

[JohnGalt]

They are gourgeous too. Another struglle is Lotus petal foil ftv or japanese tempest (i own japanese already ) ?

Korean. Or Japanese. Even English before FTV :wink:

[rancOr_]

My legacy ANT

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/922/TcBkwL.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/921/E0SFxJ.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/924/hvSN9L.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/924/VabYZn.jpg

[Ace/Homebrew]

My legacy ANT
Can you make the photos bigger? They're kinda hard to see.

Thanks! :laugh:
Beautiful deck.

[Quasim0ff]

That looks incredible. Beautiful, and consistent also!

[Ancestral]

My legacy ANT
=perfect

]

well thats exctly my goal ! Congratz its just awesome

[MGB]

So is anybody going to post their pimped out Eldrazi deck?

I figure it's about time before it happens here.

[shocked439]

Sooooo, it's still a work in progress, but it's starting to look really pretty. Yes I prefer promo versions of cards and FTV because I am a degenerate mongoloid (I play infect what did you expect?).

http://i.imgur.com/sQgb0eUs.jpeg
FTV Zenith...:cool:
http://i.imgur.com/zf1ysZGs.jpeg
Recently upgraded wasteland, the previous one Italian.
http://i.imgur.com/4DQwZrZs.jpeg
Italian legends sylvan library and pendelhaven. Italian future sight dryad arbor, and foreign white bordered duals (did I mention I'm a degenerate mongoloid?)
http://i.imgur.com/eM3Vc13s.jpeg
Foil MM2 hierarchs (these will be judge promos once the rest is upgraded), shiny invigorate, artist signed force ofwill (double signed so pretty) and og brainstorm best brainstorm.
http://i.imgur.com/748l7rns.jpeg
FNM git probe cause your eye thing is creepy AF. FNM Glistener elf (degenerate mongoloid), foil become immense cause if you're going to become immense might as well do it all shiny like. And a comic con JVP, cause he's insane in this deck, no one knows what he does in legacy and it's impossible to read this version.
http://i.imgur.com/W7BnFkHs.jpeg
Expedition fetches, cause I have a problem ok don't judge me. FTV berserk ( I LOVE FTV FOILING), and shiny vines of vastwood.


Edit:

Pictures are small and crappy will upload better versions. :eyebrow:

[CutthroatCasual]

It doesn't matter if you're a mongoloid; if it's not pimp, you don't post it in here :cool:

[nedleeds]

That deck looks like a google image search for " prolapsed weightlifting accident "

[Secretly.A.Bee]

Besides, I'm not sure even people who have Down Syndrome want you lumping yourself in with them with a deck like that...fyi, it seems counter-intuitive, but Expedition lands are actually anti-pimp.

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[Fry]

Besides, I'm not sure even people who have Down Syndrome want you lumping yourself in with them with a deck like that...fyi, it seems counter-intuitive, but Expedition lands are actually anti-pimp.


There are some very intelligent and successful people with Down Syndrome.

[CutthroatCasual]

There are some very intelligent and successful people with Down Syndrome.

They don't play MTG.

[guillemnicolau]

Pictures are small and crappy will upload better versions. :eyebrow:
Please don't

[Quasim0ff]

I guess this is the final proof, that "pimping is in the eye of the beholder" is a myth, and a lie?

[mini1337s]

I guess this is the final proof, that "pimping is in the eye of the beholder" is a myth, and a lie?
People are being a bit obnoxiously rude about it. He posts some Expeditions I'm sure he worked hard for and people say he's worse than retarded?
Keep it classy folks.

[CutthroatCasual]

People are being a bit obnoxiously rude about it. He posts some Expeditions I'm sure he worked hard for and people say he's worse than retarded?
Keep it classy folks.

This is the pimp thread. We're allowed to be abrasive. This is the "have your cake (be able to afford Legacy) and eat it, too (be able to afford PIMP Legacy)" thread. It's one thing if we make fun of those who aren't as financially fortunate enough to play this great format. It's another to make fun of those who try to act like they're a pimper. One is rude and uncalled for, the other is harmless fun-and-shaming.

[Quasim0ff]

People are being a bit obnoxiously rude about it. He posts some Expeditions I'm sure he worked hard for and people say he's worse than retarded?
Keep it classy folks.

To quote his OWN post: "because I'm a degenerate mongloid" :)?

[Bobmans]

You all suck, first you all bitch about pictures being to large, now your bitching about pictures being to small. And on top of that; your all going low on less fortunate people. Just don't.

[socialite]

That deck looks like a google image search for " prolapsed weightlifting accident "

Prolapsed, kind of like your MTG fame?

[Admiral_Arzar]

So is anybody going to post their pimped out Eldrazi deck?

I figure it's about time before it happens here.

I could do it. The big issue is my Eyes are mixed Worldwake/MM15 and one of them is Chinese instead of Japanese. This bothers me but I probably won't be finishing the Japanese WW set until the deck gets the banhammer in Modern.

[cab0747]

So is anybody going to post their pimped out Eldrazi deck?

I figure it's about time before it happens here.

I started doing this and planned to finish it up by picking up most of the rest of the parts once it was banned in modern.

Then I found out how much a foil CoT is :)

[shocked439]

People are being a bit obnoxiously rude about it. He posts some Expeditions I'm sure he worked hard for and people say he's worse than retarded?
Keep it classy folks.

I appreciate the support, I knew I was going to be in for some razzing when I posted it. My playgroup gives me shit all the time for finding promos more impressive than pack foils. This deck is pretty much trolling actual pimp decks. I prefer Italian as my foreign language cards and promos for the foils, I do live in Colorado and the FTV curling doesn't seem to be an issue here (yes dry air is good for something!)

[cab0747]

I appreciate the support, I knew I was going to be in for some razzing when I posted it. My playgroup gives me shit all the time for finding promos more impressive than pack foils. This deck is pretty much trolling actual pimp decks. I prefer Italian as my foreign language cards and promos for the foils, I do live in Colorado and the FTV curling doesn't seem to be an issue here (yes dry air is good for something!)

FWIW I enjoy the promos and pre-release cards with alternate art.

You're on your own with the FTV foiling though... I am still praying I will get a Grove of the Burnwillows with the FTV art, but non-foil or the normal foiling.

[Noctalor]

I guess this is the final proof, that "pimping is in the eye of the beholder" is a myth, and a lie?

Well it is true, but at some extend.

I cant post a full eng non foil deck and claim its something special because its full eng, same for fron the shit cards, most of them have the same value as a non foil version o the card, and they basicly are the worst possible version of any card, i already want to shot people in the face when they play a beta lotus into a FTV mystical, but at least thats the only foil version of it and a super pimped version of the card isnt there, i cringe when people with a pimped storm deck play the fucking ftv petals but again if you value consistency over a non glossy and fugly card its allright, going full promo and ftv by choice will probably be not so cool for the most of us pimpers.


But still, "pimping is in the eye of the beholder" is true, for example is just HATE Alexander fetches and im happy with my foil japanese ktk ones, people can dislike them but i dont really care :smile:

[socialite]

I guess this is the final proof, that "pimping is in the eye of the beholder" is a myth, and a lie?

It's more like "pimping has preference but there's still undeniably non pimp avenues".

[death]

There are 2 types of pimp decks


Jap foil/Beta
and


FTV/FNM

[CutthroatCasual]

FWIW I enjoy the promos and pre-release cards with alternate art.

There are acceptable ones: FNM STP, FNM Brainstorm, Arena promos (most if not all of them are great), Champs full art Niv-Mizzet/Doran/Mutavault/Voidslime, MPR Wasteland, Judge Bob/Noble Hierarch/FoW, Judge Bolt. But there are also many objectively shit-tier ones (Judge STP, "textless" Bolt, "textless" Cryptic Command, Judge Damnation, 1st Judge Wasteland to name a few).

[socialite]

There are acceptable ones: FNM STP, FNM Brainstorm, Arena promos (most if not all of them are great), Champs full art Niv-Mizzet/Doran/Mutavault/Voidslime, MPR Wasteland, Judge Bob/Noble Hierarch/FoW, Judge Bolt. But there are also many objectively shit-tier ones (Judge STP, "textless" Bolt, "textless" Cryptic Command, Judge Damnation, 1st Judge Wasteland to name a few).


Cool story, Duder.

[Esper3k]

Objectively trying to describe a subjective matter...

[bruizar]

I appreciate the support, I knew I was going to be in for some razzing when I posted it. My playgroup gives me shit all the time for finding promos more impressive than pack foils. This deck is pretty much trolling actual pimp decks. I prefer Italian as my foreign language cards and promos for the foils, I do live in Colorado and the FTV curling doesn't seem to be an issue here (yes dry air is good for something!)

I love the expeditions man! I'm considering picking up 3 foothills myself this week.

[Ephemeron]

haha I actually like the first Judge Wasteland. Carl Critchlow is one of the better artists imo (yeah yeah I know it's rejected mirrodin swamp art but whatever, it's still cool looking) and a few times I've had opponents not play around wasteland when they should because they didn't recognize what the card was due to the odd art.

Was there ever a consensus reached as to which Force of Will will end up being more pimp? I'm finishing up foiling out my Shardless deck and I cant decide which ones to get. Judge foils are technically the "OG" printing (at least for foil) and have a better border and no ugly holo stamp, but EMA FoW has objectively better art (I'm agnostic on on the giant text box star on the judge foils but I know a lot of people here despise that). EMA would also lead to more set consistency in Shardless assuming Baleful Strix and Shardless Agent are in the set.

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

Objectively trying to describe a subjective matter...

That's just like your opinion, man.

[Bobmans]

haha I actually like the first Judge Wasteland. Carl Critchlow is one of the better artists imo (yeah yeah I know it's rejected mirrodin swamp art but whatever, it's still cool looking) and a few times I've had opponents not play around wasteland when they should because they didn't recognize what the card was due to the odd art.

Was there ever a consensus reached as to which Force of Will will end up being more pimp? I'm finishing up foiling out my Shardless deck and I cant decide which ones to get. Judge foils are technically the "OG" printing (at least for foil) and have a better border and no ugly holo stamp, but EMA FoW has objectively better art (I'm agnostic on on the giant text box star on the judge foils but I know a lot of people here despise that). EMA would also lead to more set consistency in Shardless assuming Baleful Strix and Shardless Agent are in the set.

On the other hand, you can get Force of Will from the EMA set, along with matching Polluted Delta, Wasteland, Tarmogoyf, Vendilion Clique and i heard that Shardless Agent is also going to get a reprint with foil being available. Aside of that, while i do like the original over reprint, the artworks of mentioned cards are pretty nice as well. Perhaps we might even get Hymn in EMA set.

[Ephemeron]

Yeah, Hymn would be a sweet reprint. FTV foils are, as stated above, the drizzling shits of magic.

[CutthroatCasual]

haha I actually like the first Judge Wasteland. Carl Critchlow is one of the better artists imo (yeah yeah I know it's rejected mirrodin swamp art but whatever, it's still cool looking) and a few times I've had opponents not play around wasteland when they should because they didn't recognize what the card was due to the odd art.

Was there ever a consensus reached as to which Force of Will will end up being more pimp? I'm finishing up foiling out my Shardless deck and I cant decide which ones to get. Judge foils are technically the "OG" printing (at least for foil) and have a better border and no ugly holo stamp, but EMA FoW has objectively better art (I'm agnostic on on the giant text box star on the judge foils but I know a lot of people here despise that). EMA would also lead to more set consistency in Shardless assuming Baleful Strix and Shardless Agent are in the set.

The EMA art for FoW, while nice, seems too generic. Just like the art for the Judge FoWs—generic counterspell art. That said, Judge FoWs still classify as the top-most-tier of FoW pimpage because they are a pretty foil. Also, they're the most expensive ones out there, and cost certainly factors into pimpage tier.

[socialite]

Yeah, Hymn would be a sweet reprint. FTV foils are, as stated above, the drizzling shits of magic.

Hear Hear.

[MaximumC]

FTV foils are, as stated above, the drizzling shits of magic.

This my second favorite phrase I've ever heard on this website, the first being: "Man with Murderboner for Server Kills Reserve List." And, this one is TRUE!

[Koby]

Prolapsed, kind of like your MTG fame?

It's not often I wish these forums had the equivalent to a Facebook "Like" button, but this one is particularly one reason I would vote to allow it.

[force_of_phil]

Then I found out how much a foil CoT is :)

Do tell.

[Undomian]

Do tell.

Quite a lot. (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154451051503625&set=pcb.977247358979854&type=3&relevant_count=2)

[socialite]

Some relatively recent stuff. Also fuck my scanner, someone remind me to ask Death what model he uses.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1555/25394329911_1d8e8dc307_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1451/24856602344_ee1cc5618f_o.jpg

[cab0747]

Do tell.

It costs a lot! :laugh:

Edit: There were two on Ebay the other day. While I wouldn't expect anyone to buy them at $12,000 or $17,000 that does show that they would cost a pretty penny if you were every seriously negotiating a price for one.

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

Crimped FOW is pretty fucking hot.

Like I may use that to get off later.

[CutthroatCasual]

It costs a lot! :laugh:

Edit: There were two on Ebay the other day. While I wouldn't expect anyone to buy them at $12,000 or $17,000 that does show that they would cost a pretty penny if you were every seriously negotiating a price for one.

Silver border ones, while still having a MTG back, might not even be legal since they have a silver border.

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

90% sure they are not legal, but no morally upstanding judge would tell the person with a set of foil city of traitors he couldn't use them.

[CutthroatCasual]

Right I agree. I mean, it's not like the dude couldn't afford regular CoTs nor is it possible to tell the foils from non-foil since they're the same size and feel anyway (provided much of the rest of the deck is foil).

[bruizar]

Some relatively recent stuff. Also fuck my scanner, someone remind me to ask Death what model he uses.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1555/25394329911_1d8e8dc307_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1451/24856602344_ee1cc5618f_o.jpg

Although the cards look nice, I have no idea what the weird white promo in the incomprehensible asian language. Exactly why I stick with English cards.

[Quasim0ff]

Although the cards look nice, I have no idea what the weird white promo in the incomprehensible asian language. Exactly why I stick with English cards.

It's Path to Exile.

I find it to be that there is one Path promo that's better than all other paths combined, and that's the Rebecca Guay one. It even comes in [random foreign language] as well as foil!

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Sadly it comes only in foil...

ftfy.

I never seen this particular PtE, and it is kinda nice. Also, that Disenchant is brutal, is that thing legit, or is it hand job?

[Spam]

Those PTE are awesome, the best art so far. For some reason I always associate them to this painting.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160304/6de1fd01cd24a06ed2bb281c9d0c9fb4.jpg

[socialite]

It's Path to Exile.

I find it to be that there is one Path promo that's better than all other paths combined, and that's the Rebecca Guay one. It even comes in [random foreign language] as well as foil!

The Guay one is nice but this is the only Korean version.


Although the cards look nice, I have no idea what the weird white promo in the incomprehensible asian language. Exactly why I stick with English cards.

What kind of a sadist quotes pictures?


ftfy.

I never seen this particular PtE, and it is kinda nice. Also, that Disenchant is brutal, is that thing legit, or is it hand job?

AFAIK legit, I have a lot of vitriol for NFCs and this one has a normal centered back.

[Dice_Box]

Yeah, Hymn would be a sweet reprint. FTV foils are, as stated above, the drizzling shits of magic.

Agreed. Even with the art on Chasm being better in FTV that fucker is not touching my Lands deck.

Also I am about halfway through with is. I should post it in about... A year...

[apple713]

Quite a lot. (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154451051503625&set=pcb.977247358979854&type=3&relevant_count=2)

IDK about ALOT, but foil city of traitors sold on ebay for 3050 here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-FOIL-Exodus-City-of-Traitors-Test-Print-MTG-Black-Border-1-Kid-Icarus-/381541536245?hash=item58d5a5d1f5:g:Qp8AAOSwFqJWnUll) probably at a premium because of the seller. This is a much more realistic price. It's much less than I would have thought but its the only market price we have.

[Quasim0ff]

IDK about ALOT, but foil city of traitors sold on ebay for 3050 here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-FOIL-Exodus-City-of-Traitors-Test-Print-MTG-Black-Border-1-Kid-Icarus-/381541536245?hash=item58d5a5d1f5:g:Qp8AAOSwFqJWnUll) probably at a premium because of the seller. This is a much more realistic price. It's much less than I would have thought but its the only market price we have.
That seems totally unexpected. Did KI just put it up as an auction with no minimum? It's at least half of all other copies, which also sold.

[Kryogenesi]

Hi guys, i'm pretty new posting on the forum, but i'm following you from quite a bit. :tongue:
Just wanted to share the progression of my legacy 4c Control.
I'm waiting for a lot of upgrades and signatures but i hope that's still pretty sharable, even at this point :smile:
Thanks!

http://i.imgur.com/LQuzwKf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EMaADcT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dzwd1fs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/3CE1miM.jpg

[ReAnimator]

Also, that Disenchant is brutal, is that thing legit, or is it hand job?

That is a real disenchant not an artist alter if that's what you are implying. I have one exactly like it.

@Kryogenesi
Nice cards! Sweet deck.

[Ephemeron]

That is a real disenchant not an artist alter if that's what you are implying. I have one exactly like it.

@Kryogenesi
Nice cards! Sweet deck.


The disenchant is miscut, he was asking if it came from the factory like that or if someone had an uncut sheet and had them intentionally miscut

[Ryu]

First post is him showing off his PIMP. I think I might like this guy.

[bruizar]

What kind of a sadist quotes pictures?


Hah, excuse me. :-) BTW: I do really love the art on the FNM Path to Exiles, more so than Rebecca Guay. The combination of an alternate art + a foreign language is rather difficult for me, I judge call those cards every time to verify them.

Pimping used to be easy. It used to be "go with the oldest existing foil or black bordered version unless P3K or 7th foil". You can still not go wrong with that, but wizards has made it so difficult with their own printing inconsistencies. I wish they just stuck to one or two ways. Now we have various layouts to consider, alternate arts, different foiling techniques, stamps and no stamps, the sword of X Y dilemma/modern masters dilemma, shooting stars and no shooting stars, it's driving me nuts.

[Ace/Homebrew]

The disenchant is miscut, he was asking if it came from the factory like that or if someone had an uncut sheet and had them intentionally miscut
Isn't it technically a 'misprint' since the back is centered (implying it was cut correctly)?

[JohnGalt]

IDK about ALOT, but foil city of traitors sold on ebay for 3050 here (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-FOIL-Exodus-City-of-Traitors-Test-Print-MTG-Black-Border-1-Kid-Icarus-/381541536245?hash=item58d5a5d1f5:g:Qp8AAOSwFqJWnUll) probably at a premium because of the seller. This is a much more realistic price. It's much less than I would have thought but its the only market price we have.

Have you seen the condition of that card? It's written over the card itself. That's hardly pimp/collectable.

[JohnGalt]

I don't get people that double sign a card by the same artist. I dislike signed cards in general, but double signed by the same artist are just an aberration.

[ReAnimator]

The disenchant is miscut, he was asking if it came from the factory like that or if someone had an uncut sheet and had them intentionally miscut

Ha! totally missed that with the dark sleeves and background.

Well that's my stupid mistake of the day fulfilled.

[mini1337s]

http://i.imgur.com/kNo4Mjp.jpg?1
Wanted to build a deck that would still be good without Power just in case I ever decide to move mine. All I think it did though is make me want to buy a Beta Jet and Lotus.........

[MoxMonkey]

http://i.imgur.com/kNo4Mjp.jpg?1
Wanted to build a deck that would still be good without Power just in case I ever decide to move mine. All I think it did though is make me want to buy a Beta Jet and Lotus.........


Very awesome! I love the old school format. Prices are getting alittle too high for me so I'll be making an old school cube. I'll have to pick up afew random things I skipped over when buying :/

[thecrav]

Hi guys, i'm pretty new posting on the forum, but i'm following you from quite a bit. :tongue:
Just wanted to share the progression of my legacy 4c Control.
I'm waiting for a lot of upgrades and signatures but i hope that's still pretty sharable, even at this point :smile:
Thanks!
[PIX]

I don't know what's going on with that deck but I want to play it.


I don't get people that double sign a card by the same artist. I dislike signed cards in general, but double signed by the same artist are just an aberration.

I get it in two cases.

1. The artist has changed their signature (see Terese Neilson)
2. There's something unique about one of the signatures - for example, my "double signed" full-art Ponders:

http://i.imgur.com/5y6EZoMl.jpg

[Benrobnu]

Some relatively recent stuff. Also fuck my scanner, someone remind me to ask Death what model he uses.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1555/25394329911_1d8e8dc307_o.jpg


Oh, so you're the one that beat me on the disenchant

[apple713]

Have you seen the condition of that card? It's written over the card itself. That's hardly pimp/collectable.

The card looks slightly played i'll give you that. However, the writing on the back, at least to me, doesn't make it any less pimp. I may be mistaken but there are 875 pages to this thread and how many card backs do you think got posted? id be willing to bet close to 0, unless of course the card is double sided.

[socialite]

Oh, so you're the one that beat me on the disenchant

Had to have it.

This is the other one I have; playable Korean errors are hard to find in my experience.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8652/15267495734_6bee848591_o.jpg

[Kryogenesi]

I don't know what's going on with that deck but I want to play it.
:laugh: That's why i went for it!
It's giving me a lot of satisfactions vs uwx Miracles, various aggros (Goblins, Merfolks, and various types of Maverick), it makes me feel good even vs ANT and demi-storm decks.
Anyway, i'll continue checking for various matchups.
I'll post some other decks in these days anyway ^^

[KindGrind]

http://i.imgur.com/kNo4Mjp.jpg?1
Wanted to build a deck that would still be good without Power just in case I ever decide to move mine. All I think it did though is make me want to buy a Beta Jet and Lotus.........

Beautiful! You need that Beta Jet and Lotus indeed. If the time comes to sell everything, you put this pile in a deckbox (preferably the old Juzam/Lotus one), ductape it shut and you're ready for the end of days.

[Benrobnu]

Had to have it.

This is the other one I have; playable Korean errors are hard to find in my experience.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8652/15267495734_6bee848591_o.jpg

Does this mean there's a ritual out there? From the disenchant sheet? I must have it

[socialite]

Does this mean there's a ritual out there? From the disenchant sheet? I must have it

I've wondered that myself, no idea. Bolt, Hurks, STP, Strip, ughhh.

[MGB]

Man, it's amazing that with all the foil Korean/Japanese stuff I've seen in this thread that the Beta non-foil mono-black deck is the most beautiful of them all.

There's something about that simple card design with the stark contrasted colors and the singular hand-painted artwork that just puts all the new stuff to shame.

[jrsthethird]

Man, it's amazing that with all the foil Korean/Japanese stuff I've seen in this thread that the Beta non-foil mono-black deck is the most beautiful of them all.

There's something about that simple card design with the stark contrasted colors and the singular hand-painted artwork that just puts all the new stuff to shame.

Screw old frame/new art/whatever Judge foils. Give us original art in Beta card frames with confusing text formatting.

Like, wouldn't this (http://goodgamery.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/beta_jace1.jpg) be the most pimp Judge promo ever?

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Yes, that deck is more beautiful than a lot of recent stuff that comes in a non-fantasy frame, with forgettable art and wrapped like a corrugated metal due to low-quality foiling.
The black cards are especially nice due to the black borders, but otherwise I'm kinda not thrilled with the BBs, as they tend to suffer with chips and w/e else. In my Magic world there'd be none of the alternate borders, frames and such, and there'd be far more cards with crappy wording (even though maybe not exactly Beta-like kind of 1993 Sumerian.)

/internet user opinion

PS: With black it's more than obvious that 93/94 needs to expand to 95. The missing Necro is missing. :-)

[haganbmj]

I feel like I've taken 2 steps forward and 1 step back with this update, but I felt it was worthwhile to showcase off the awesome new mat drawn by a friend.

On the one hand I finished up my duals and got some signatures done. On the other... I'm trying out a new build of the deck and now I need Caverns, Shaman of the Pack, and a Gaddock Teeg in addition to the Natural Orders and Cradles I already was putting off picking up. On the plus side I start a new job in a week, so maybe those paychecks will be put to "work" eventually.

(Birchlores are signed, if the lighting masks that fact)
http://i.imgur.com/REl6l0e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SZQdklF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sXRLQgb.png
http://i.imgur.com/51m5FVK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rw3iShn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ht7rLaE.png

http://i.imgur.com/VHOxImz.png

http://i.imgur.com/4gUKGyl.jpg

[jrsthethird]

^^^ Best post in recent memory.

[bop2]

Elf deck looks amazing, and the playmat is the best i've seen.

[Ephemeron]

That playmat is so sweet. As is the rest of the deck.

Feels like you need the german euro art forest over the APAC one though.

[thecrav]

For a German Forest, I think I gotta go with this guy (http://www.abugames.com/images/products/actualpictureitems/16976.jpg)