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Sengaija
03-18-2007, 10:09 AM
Hi, as this is my first post (on this or any forum) and my english isnt the best, ill start by asking you all to have paticence with me:smile: .

with no further ado Ill present to you my current build:

Creatures (24):

4x Sage of Epityr
4x Dark Confidant
4x Spiketail Hatchling
4x Spiketail Drakeling
4x Voidmage Prodigy
4x Dimir Infiltrator

Other spells (16):

4x Daze
4x Duress
3x AEther Vial
2x Counterspell
2x Umezawa´s Jitte
1x Sword of Fire and Ice

Lands (20):

12x Island
4x Swamp
4x Polluted delta

What the deck does is pretty much counter spells and then clean up the threats that you couldnt counter with Umezawa´s Jitte and Sword of Fire and Ice while you draw cards (preferable counters) with Dark confidant and Sword of Fire and Ice until you win. One tech that i like with this deck is the transmute for 2cc on the Dimir Infiltrator


Some of the things I aim to do with this deck in the future (when i have the money) is to add:

3x Sword of Fire and Ice
4x Underground Sea
1x AEther Vial

Im also just now trying to finish a sideboard. The cards which im currently looking at are:

Engineered Plague -my goblin matchup is quite bad, although i expect it to improve with the addition of 3 more Sword of Fire and Ice, I still dont expect it to be favorable.

Hurkyl´s Recall -my Raffinity matchup is also flaved, and this is the best card i could find in my colors, i also expect this to help against faerie stompy as i can bounce needles, equipments and some times even Chalice of the Void.

Blue Elemental Blast -this would (i think) further improve my game against goblin and generaly be good against red decks.


At last i would like to ask you all for your help and opinion to improve the deck. What do you think of this deck? do you hate/love it? why? anything you think i should add or change? (One thing i wont do is add white).

Thanks for posting, or atleast reading.

xsockmonkeyx
03-18-2007, 10:23 AM
Welcome to the Source, your English is fine.

This deck needs 4 Brainstorm ASAP. Also +2 Fetch so you can Brainstorm, Fetch more consistantly.

If you are on a budget you should consider Trinket Mage + a box of trinkets like Seat of the Synod/Chrome Mox (mana), Engineered Explosives, Sensei's Divining Top(goes great with confidant), Pithing Needle, Tormod's Crypt, Mishra's Bauble (cantrip) and other little goodies. Trinket Mage also fetches out your vials.

C.P.
03-18-2007, 10:27 AM
Creature removal would not be bad, too. somother or it's like will help, seeing how you rely on equipments to get rid of resolved theats.

Brainstrom/Serum visions/and its like will be a nice addition, as well.

Sengaija
03-18-2007, 10:40 AM
Welcome to the Source, your English is fine.

This deck needs 4 Brainstorm ASAP. Also +2 Fetch so you can Brainstorm, Fetch more consistantly.

If you are on a budget you should consider Trinket Mage + a box of trinkets like Seat of the Synod/Chrome Mox (mana), Engineered Explosives, Sensei's Divining Top(goes great with confidant), Pithing Needle, Tormod's Crypt, Mishra's Bauble (cantrip) and other little goodies. Trinket Mage also fetches out your vials.

I agree with you on the brainstorms, they are godly with the fetche´s. Still I have a problem with what to remove, especially when im going to add 3x Swords of Fire and Ice 1x AEther Vial and 4x Underground Sea´s.

I have also thought about a Trinket mage toolbox and Im going to look deeper into this.

I would also like to hear suggestions on things to transmute for with Dimir Infiltrator.

Thanks for the post, Ill hope they will keep on coming.

Sengaija
03-18-2007, 10:52 AM
smother would be an excellent removal card in this deck seeing as slower creatures have a hard time getting through the counterwall.

It would be nice to see thoughts on what to take out and replace in the deck.

xsockmonkeyx
03-18-2007, 11:11 AM
For transmute you could try Mask of Memory as a target, that card goes well unblockable creatures. . Definately creature removal like Smother and Edict are good transmute targets maybe Echoing Truth as a silver bullet against chalice.

I would probably cut the Voidmage prodigy's. They are rather slow against combo, has a fragile body and does little against goblins.



This is a quick list I threw together that' is similar to your idea and within your budget. I tried to keep it to the transmute idea rather than the trinket mage + box.

4x Flying Men - decent 1 drop, evasion
4x Dark Confidant
3x Rotting Giant - ground beef, easy to feed with your cantrips, counters, fetches.
4x Dimir Infiltrator
2x Serendib Efreet - big flying body/finisher

4x Brainstorm - yup
3x Serum Visions - feeds your giant, digs, fixes draws, finds mana.
3x Ghastly Demise - creature removal.
1x Smother (for transmute)
4x Daze
3x Duress
3x Counterspell
2x Umezawa´s Jitte
1x Sword of Fire and Ice
1x Mask of Memory - went over this one already.

6x Island
2x Swamp
4x Polluted delta
2x Flooded Strand
4x Underground Sea(2 swamp, 2 island)

Sengaija
03-18-2007, 12:20 PM
mask of memory is interesting, but from what i have seen while playing the deck, you pretty much always want to transmute for a jitte to handle a threat or a voidmage or counterspell to keep your board position.

voidmage is a important part of this deck as i see it. It transforms 8 card (12 including itself) into uncounterable counters combined with AEther Vial. Also in my meta there is only one guy playing goblins. as for combo, they havnt posed a problem for me as of yet, and i like to think it has a lot to do with me having 30 cards in my deck that can act as counters.

chalice will usually be played with 2 counters against me which will make echoing truth a dead card.

the spiketails have been awsome for me as i can tap out on an early turn to play an equipment without leaving a to big hole in the counterwall, and they are a great target for Sword of Fire and Ice, as they are flying. I agree 8 may be an overkill and im going to try replacing 4 of them for cloud of faeries as they make for some tricky plays with AEther Vials.

Im going to continue playtesting and give an updated decklist with sideboard and reports from whatever tournament Im in.