[Deck] Nether Realm

[Magus of the Nether Void]

{Deck} Nether Realm

2x Nether Void
4x Sphere of resistance
2x The Abyss
4x Damnation
4x smokestack
4x crucible of worlds
2x masticore
2x phyrexian totem
4x trinisphere
4x mox diamond

lands

14x swamp
4x ancient tomb
3x mishra's factory
3x city of traitors
2x wasteland
2x Urborg, Tomb of yawgmoth

sideboard

4x Chains of Mephistopheles
4x extirpate
4x leyline of the void
3x defense grid


The whole point of the deck is to control what the oponent can do and beat there life away slowly..... lol. any sugestions?

[Cait_Sith]

Problem 1: You cannot have the The Abyss and Nether Void in play at the same time. I would stick to Nether Void honestly. 3-4 Copies.

Problem 2: I'm not feeling Stax in this build. I would use Braids instead if you want a Stax effect.

Suggestion 1: Black is a color that really likes a splash. I would recommend Blue or White since they have the best anti Aggro options along with card drawing.

Problem 3: 28 Lands is heavy, even when you factor is Wastelands. Maybe go down to 26?

Suggestion 2: My build, for reference:

// Lands
4 [8E] Island
4 [ON] Polluted Delta
3 [MI] Crystal Vein
2 [TE] Wasteland
4 [AQ] Mishra's Factory
4 [PT] Swamp
4 [U] Underground Sea

// Creatures
4 [OD] Braids, Cabal Minion

// Spells
4 [DK] Mana Vortex
4 [TE] Propaganda
4 [FD] Crucible of Worlds
4 [DS] Trinisphere
3 [IN] Fact or Fiction
4 [SH] Mox Diamond
4 [PLC] Damnation
4 [LG] Nether Void

[parallax]

I think a big problem you're going to have is that you have no answer, not just to Lackey, but to Aether Vial or Nimble Mongoose as well when you're on the draw.

[Magus of the Nether Void]

I see what you mean but i thought that you could have more than 1 enchant world card out as long as its not the same one? Im kinda confused on how to run this kind of deck inthe first place but ill take anyhelp i can get and yall are willing to give!:laugh:

[noobslayer]

If I'm running an enchant world, it'd never be more than a three of. Having four means you will draw multiples. In this case I'd prefer the Abyss as the creatures-deck: non-creature-deck ratio is rather one sided. Also. no chalice of the void? That card is a house.

[The Lotus Eater]

I see what you mean but i thought that you could have more than 1 enchant world card out as long as its not the same one? Im kinda confused on how to run this kind of deck inthe first place but ill take anyhelp i can get and yall are willing to give!:laugh:



If two or more permanents have the supertype world, all except the one that has been a permanent with the world supertype in play for the shortest amount of time are put into their owners' graveyards. In the event of a tie for the shortest amount of time, all are put into their owners' graveyards. This is called the "world rule."

This seems like a really powerful deck once it gets rolling, but it could take awhile to get all of it's pieces in place. Would Dark Ritual help speed things up? Yes, it's bad under a Void, but you really need them to get everything into play fast, it appears.

[Magus of the Nether Void]

I was thinking about putting dark rit. in but I ran out of space! I mean what could I do if i want to keep the deck mono-black and still wreck house? The dark rit would be good but once I have void out its becomes useless:cry:
:confused: I would run braids but i cant because of the Abyss. Can you have more than one enchant would out as long as its not the same card?

[Magus of the Nether Void]

nvm I see if you have one in play and then you play anather one the first one dies, kinda like the old legendary permanent rule?:smile: ?

[dahcmai]

Dark Ritual was not a choice? It seems the deck needs speed to set up against anything quick and you don't have it. Seems like an obvious inclusion just to get answers to fast things.

Even with a void making it useless, a void is useless if it's not out fast enough.

[M_Pietrzak]

here is my version of it
its really good

// Lands
6 Swamp
4 Polluted Delta
4 Scrubland
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Wasteland
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

// Creatures
4 Braids, Cabal Minion

// Spells
3 Damnation
3 Nether Void
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Ghostly Prison
4 Duress
4 Crucible of Worlds
3 Trinisphere
4 Dark Ritual
4 Mox Diamond

// Sideboard
SB: 3 Seal of Cleansing
SB: 4 Leyline of the Void
SB: 2 Dystopia
SB: 2 Perish
SB: 2 Engineered Plague
SB: 2 The Abyss

I splashed W for stp as a response for 1turn lackey and white Propaganda (Ghostly Prison).

Sideoboard is in still developing level, but some cards must be

Dystopia - great against Threshold/Angels
Perish - great against Threshold
Leyline of the Void - helps with IggyPop i think and against each of survival decks
The Abyss - as Dystopia helps with all aggro decks
Engineered Plague - obv choice

[Magus of the Nether Void]

thank you for your comments I soppose im being stupid not to use dark rits. and the white splash is very interesting! I guess i wont keep it mono-black.
should I perhaps ad hatred into this deck?:cool:

[Magus of the Nether Void]

how about this?

//lands
2 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
4 mishras factory
2 Urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
4 polluted delta
4 scrubland
2 waste lands
6 swamps

//creatures
2 masticore

// Spells
3 Damnation
3 Nether Void
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Ghostly Prison
2 phyrexian totem
4 Crucible of Worlds
3 Trinisphere
4 Dark Ritual
4 Mox Diamond
2 Sphere of resistance
3 smokestack

//sidebord
2x Chains of Mephistopheles
2x the abyss
4x extirpate
3x leyline of the void
3x wrath of god
1x damnation


This list I think is more productive but I might have a problem with mana ehat do yall think?:confused:

[M_Pietrzak]

how about this?

//lands
2 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
4 mishras factory
2 Urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
4 polluted delta
4 scrubland
2 waste lands
6 swamps

//creatures
2 masticore

// Spells
3 Damnation
3 Nether Void
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Ghostly Prison
2 phyrexian totem
4 Crucible of Worlds
3 Trinisphere
4 Dark Ritual
4 Mox Diamond
2 Sphere of resistance
3 smokestack

//sidebord
2x Chains of Mephistopheles
2x the abyss
4x extirpate
3x leyline of the void
3x wrath of god
1x damnation


This list I think is more productive but I might have a problem with mana ehat do yall think?:confused:

First
Tabernacle - good idea.
I forgot 'bout extirpate's in sideboard

after playing few games deck showed that plays Nether Void isnt key. The point is to keep CoW+Braids lock in play with 1-2 Prisons.
Sphere of resistance isnt necessary I think.

Mainly problem of this deck is that we have nothing to do with first turns threats and we need additional draw (Dark Confidant/Skeletal Scrying).
Good addition is Zuran Orb against faster decks.
Masticore should be aright but remember that You need to discard a card. Without additional draw is not good.
We can run BWg version with Life from the Loam, Pernicious Deed and play 1-2 Solitary Confinements as game saver.


ah and last one
WoG is april joke, right? :)

[M_Pietrzak]

First
Tabernacle - good idea.
I forgot 'bout extirpate's in sideboard

after playing few games deck showed that plays Nether Void isnt key. The point is to keep CoW+Braids lock in play with 1-2 Prisons.
Sphere of resistance isnt necessary I think.

Mainly problem of this deck is that we have nothing to do with first turns threats and we need additional draw (Dark Confidant/Skeletal Scrying).
Good addition is Zuran Orb against faster decks.
Masticore should be aright but remember that You need to discard a card. Without additional draw is not good.
We can run BWg version with Life from the Loam, Pernicious Deed and play 1-2 Solitary Confinements as game saver.

4 wastelands must BE !!!!

ah and last one
WoG is april joke, right? :)

[M_Pietrzak]

please delete this post and one above it.. :(

[Magus of the Nether Void]

okay this is a little diff list, what yall say?

//lands
2 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
4 mishras factory
2 Urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
4 polluted delta
4 scrubland
2 waste lands
6 swamps

//creatures
2 nether traiters


// Spells
3 Damnation
3 Nether Void
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Ghostly Prison
2 phyrexian totem
4 Crucible of Worlds
3 Trinisphere
4 Dark Ritual
4 Mox Diamond
3 smokestack
2 Skeletal Scrying

//sidebord
2x Chains of Mephistopheles
2x the abyss
4x extirpate
3x leyline of the void
3x wrath of god
1x damnation

I put nether traiter in because evan though the masticor is good, I realy wont have cards to discard. so in the end it would hurt my hand in a signifcant way that I dont want. Should I add hatred?:confused:

[Magus of the Nether Void]

Solitary Confinement would be a good add in but what would I take out to put it in?
and plus if i did run it I could take out nether traiter and run MAGUS OF THE MIRROR and sleletol skry down to a low life then kill with the phirixian totem!:confused: but on the other hand i could just run hatred with nether traiter.:wink: what yall think/

[The Lotus Eater]

A lot of the decks back in the day used Hypnotic Specter as their main creature. Often first turn Hippy, second turn Mishra's Factory --> Void would usually result in a win because of a decent clock with a good amount of disruption.

If you're running white, would Vindicate be good instead of Damnation in some of your lists here? The banabase would need a tweak, but having stone rains in a deck that makes spells cost more (and more to attack with Ghostly Prison) is usually good and it can also pick off any other permanent.

Also, CoW just looks like overkill as a four of in this deck, how has that number been in testing?

[Magus of the Nether Void]

//lands
2 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
3 mishras factory
2 Urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
4 ancient tomb
4 city of traiters
2 waste lands
10 swamps

//creatures
4 Braids, cabal minion


// Spells
4 Damnation
3 Nether Void
3 phyrexian totem
4 Crucible of Worlds
4 Trinisphere
4 sphere of resistance
4 Mox Diamond
3 smokestack


//sidebord
2x Chains of Mephistopheles
2x the abyss
4x extirpate
4x leyline of the void


This is better i think!