View Full Version : [Deck] Neo Tinfins
Evil Roopey
05-18-2007, 01:11 AM
I'm bored.
// Lands
3 [MR] Vault of Whispers
2 [MR] Glimmervoid
4 [DS] Blinkmoth Nexus
3 [8E] City of Brass
3 [MR] Ancient Den
3 [MR] Seat of the Synod
// Creatures
4 [PS] Meddling Mage
4 [MR] Disciple of the Vault
4 [DS] Arcbound Ravager
3 [CS] Jotun Grunt
4 [DS] Arcbound Worker
4 [MR] Frogmite
// Spells
3 [SOK] Pithing Needle
4 [JU] Cabal Therapy
4 [FD] Cranial Plating
4 [DS] AEther Vial
4 [7E] Duress
// Sideboard
SB: 4 [GP] Leyline of the Void
SB: 4 [UL] Engineered Plague
SB: 3 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 4 [A] Swords to Plowshares
It's yet another deck that's built to beat Flash while at the same time having a good match-up against Fish and other shit. Not sure on how good the Flash match-up is, but it can't be that bad with 8 discard and Needle/Mage main. Just trying to get some ideas out there.
Thoughtcast should probably find its way in.
Araneida
05-18-2007, 08:18 AM
This Deck seems to be at least interesting. But it also looks like you will get ouf of gas very early each game, because you have no real draw spells.
The "old" affinity at least got TfK or Thoughtcast. But this does not really fit in here.
I dont know why you play jotun grunt, do you love him so much? ;)
Maybe Confidant fits better here.
And you should look wether you can support Bitter Ordeal. You got Arcbound Ravager, thats great. At least in theory: Feed the Ravager, play bitter ordeal for four and smash their face. Bam! :)
I hope I could help at least a bit.
Greetings - Dave
Eldariel
05-18-2007, 08:37 AM
Jotun Grunt definitely seems like a questionable inclusion; you seem to need all the artifacts you can get to actually enable the Affinity-side of the deck. You run only 32 artifacts, which means you're quite far from the 'ideal' 40 artifacts to efficiently enable Affinity, Cranial Plating and Arcbound Ravager. Perhaps toss few Myr Retrievers in the Grunt-slot to recycle countered Pithing Needles and such, or some 0-drop artifacts to accelerate the deck by a bit. And perhaps toss some colour consistency out of the window by dropping a 5-C land for an additional Den/Seat, and maybe a Blinkmoth for another.
Ornithopter seems like a natural fit here since you still want creatures, but you also want artifacts and 0-drops to enable a bit higher artifact count early on. Perhaps even Lotus Petals could find a home here in some landslots for those turn 1 Meddling Magi and whatnot. I think there's actually potential in this idea since artifact hate is bound to be at an all-time low, but that requires the Hulk Flash-MU to actually be positive or at least relatively even.
Anyway, since all the hate actually costs mana, it seems like some sort of mana acceleration needs to be played to make it matter in time. Lotus Petal seems like the most logical alternative, since you don't have to imprint a hatecard on it and it still counts as an artifact for Ravagers, Platings, Disciples and Frogmites.
Evil Roopey
05-18-2007, 02:17 PM
Jotun Grunt definitely seems like a questionable inclusion; you seem to need all the artifacts you can get to actually enable the Affinity-side of the deck. You run only 32 artifacts, which means you're quite far from the 'ideal' 40 artifacts to efficiently enable Affinity, Cranial Plating and Arcbound Ravager. Perhaps toss few Myr Retrievers in the Grunt-slot to recycle countered Pithing Needles and such, or some 0-drop artifacts to accelerate the deck by a bit. And perhaps toss some colour consistency out of the window by dropping a 5-C land for an additional Den/Seat, and maybe a Blinkmoth for another.
Ornithopter seems like a natural fit here since you still want creatures, but you also want artifacts and 0-drops to enable a bit higher artifact count early on. Perhaps even Lotus Petals could find a home here in some landslots for those turn 1 Meddling Magi and whatnot. I think there's actually potential in this idea since artifact hate is bound to be at an all-time low, but that requires the Hulk Flash-MU to actually be positive or at least relatively even.
Anyway, since all the hate actually costs mana, it seems like some sort of mana acceleration needs to be played to make it matter in time. Lotus Petal seems like the most logical alternative, since you don't have to imprint a hatecard on it and it still counts as an artifact for Ravagers, Platings, Disciples and Frogmites.
There really isn't an Affinity side to the deck though. With Froggie being the only card with affinity in the deck all you really need to support is Ravager/Disciple/Cranial Plating, and all of those things are worth it even if there is only a few artifacts in play.
Confidant is probably a good idea, over Froggie?
eternaldarkness
05-19-2007, 08:08 AM
Over jotun grunt. You can't really feed grunt the way others can since you don't run sac lands and use only 8 1 cc sorceries as your early game spells.
It hurts not to run some big ass beater, but confidants i think is the way to go. An besides you have the Ravager/Disciple kill so we really shouldn't be complaining:wink:
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