[Deck] Loam-a-Replenish

[Mordenkain]

There seems to be different thoughts on how best to utilize the newly unbanned Replenish. The general idea seems to be to abuse intuition for PandeBurst combo pieces and a Gigapede, essentially acting as a double entomb for 2U, which next turn is followed by a replenish FTW.
I disagree. I can see the combo being somewhat strong, but using blue as a primary color is not good in a so agro orientated format (at least, thats how i percieve the format). If you get stalled by some disruption, then FoW and Duress ain't gonna save your ass while struggling to find intuition + replenish.
Therefore i suggest trying to go a more anti-creature orientated way.
Heres a very ganky list on what i have in mind (savage tech stolen from columbus confinement thread, thank you very much):

// Lands
3 Taiga
4 Windswept Heath
2 Forgotten Cave
3 Wooded Foothills
4 Savannah
3 Tranquil Thicket
2 Plateau
3 Wasteland

// Spells
2 Enlightened Tutor
3 Solitary Confinement
1 Seismic Assault
4 Burning Wish
3 Life from the Loam
3 Replenish
3 Devastating Dreams
3 Humility
3 Pandemonium
3 Saproling Burst
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Mox Diamond

// Sideboard
SB: 1 Wrath of God
SB: 1 Nostalgic Dreams
SB: 1 Hull Breach
SB: 1 Decree of Justice
SB: 3 Pyroclasm
SB: 3 Shattering Spree
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 1 Life from the Loam
SB: 1 Replenish
SB: 1 Devastating Dreams

I think most people already by glancing the list get the idea. Play loam style control with devastating dreams or hold control with confinement, while dredging away, eventually playing Replenish FTW.

Thoughts?

[HdH_Cthulhu]

First of all i like the idea of Loam a Plenish

But some points...

But does the combo work under Humility?

What do you do against combo?
3 Shattering Spree in the SB is it for Affinity? But isnt combo a harder problem?


I think in your mana base is too much green for to less spells!

[Sengaija]

just wanted to give some suggestions on great cards to play with replenish:

seal of fire - stops that damn lackey turn 1 and after dredging them all your replenish becomes a 8 damage divided (pretty much) how you like it

seal of cleansing - also adds to the explosivness of replenish againts many decks (possable sideboard card)

Boseiju, Who Shelters All - atleast one of, you are playing LotL and want to resolve your replenishes after all

exploration - again, you are playing both LotL and replenish, this card should atleast be considered

Opalescence - this card is a great secondary gameplan

rule of law - as pointed out, you lack in combo defence. This card should help you there

loam a-la replenish should be a great and fun deck when tuned, keep up the good work!

[C.P.]

I suggest you blue splash for Atunement. It enables large amount of dredging and digging deeper. Blue also gives you some interesting enchantment, such as seal of removal, Legacy's Allure, Standstill, Decree of silence, ETC.

[Mordenkain]

As I tried to state, that list is just something to let the thoughts flow. What im looking for is if people really think that this deck type are able to succed or we should try some other approach than life from the loam?

[Cavius The Great]

Have you considered Recoup?

[Sengaija]

i put together a loam a-la replenish and one thing i really liked through testing was eternal witness, this babe can get your replenishes back in your hand for more abusing. one nice thing is to also have a single animate dead in the deck:

play replenish

opon resolve all enchantments go back into play (including animate dead), animate dead enchants the witness, and you return replenish to hand :laugh:.

playing eternal witness can be mana intensive, but if you play exploration you have that mana to spare.

[Mordenkain]

Inspired by a very succesful loam deck in my local metagame, I think this idea is viable. The deck in my meta is GRB loam with DD and Damnation, which works very smoothly. He wins through Seismic Assault right now, but I think if changing the Damnations for Wrath of Gods and thereby going to white instead of black, then the deck could perform very well with the replenish combo.

The list posted first was very janky, indeed, but it gets the general idea through: Play loam, reuse lands, blow up stuff with DD and WoG, and then lategame with Burning Wish -> Replenish (PandeBurst). Also, with R/G color included, in such a lategame deck, the combo is easily hardcastable. We may need to move the Replenishes all the way to the wishboard, going for a more stable gameplan.

Heres a new list, still as janky as ever, but still a bit more consideration:

// Lands (Don't think to much about this, we can easily change the amount of each color)
3 Taiga
4 Windswept Heath
2 Forgotten Cave
3 Wooded Foothills
4 Savannah
3 Tranquil Thicket
2 Plateau
3 Wasteland

//Creatures
3 Eternal Witness
3 Terravore

// Spells
4 Exploration
4 Burning Wish
3 Life from the Loam
1 Replenish
3 Devastating Dreams
3 Humility (Im not sure that the combo works under Humility, if it doesn't then we need something else in the slot.
2 Pandemonium
2 Saproling Burst
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Mox Diamond

// Sideboard
SB: 1 Wrath of God
SB: 1 Nostalgic Dreams
SB: 1 Hull Breach
SB: 1 Decree of Justice
SB: 1 Life from the Loam
SB: 1 Replenish
SB: 1 Devastating Dreams
+8 Meta slots/whatever we find out is gonna be needed.

The list can easily be changed, and the numbers of each cards can go up and down easily, so don't comment on something you would play 3 of instead of 2 or something like that, thanks.

On another note, I want some people to comment on wether they think this idea is workable or not. I don't wanna spend alot of time developing a deck that might not have any potential at all. To me it seems like a good idea, but I want some more input.

- Mordenkain

[laststepdown]

There's already a discussion about this in another thread.

[Bane of the Living]

Inspired by a very succesful loam deck in my local metagame, I think this idea is viable. The deck in my meta is GRB loam with DD and Damnation, which works very smoothly. He wins through Seismic Assault right now, but I think if changing the Damnations for Wrath of Gods and thereby going to white instead of black, then the deck could perform very well with the replenish combo.

The list posted first was very janky, indeed, but it gets the general idea through: Play loam, reuse lands, blow up stuff with DD and WoG, and then lategame with Burning Wish -> Replenish (PandeBurst). Also, with R/G color included, in such a lategame deck, the combo is easily hardcastable. We may need to move the Replenishes all the way to the wishboard, going for a more stable gameplan.

Heres a new list, still as janky as ever, but still a bit more consideration:

// Lands (Don't think to much about this, we can easily change the amount of each color)
3 Taiga
4 Windswept Heath
2 Forgotten Cave
3 Wooded Foothills
4 Savannah
3 Tranquil Thicket
2 Plateau
3 Wasteland

//Creatures
3 Eternal Witness
3 Terravore

// Spells
4 Exploration
4 Burning Wish
3 Life from the Loam
1 Replenish
3 Devastating Dreams
3 Humility (Im not sure that the combo works under Humility, if it doesn't then we need something else in the slot.
2 Pandemonium
2 Saproling Burst
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Mox Diamond

// Sideboard
SB: 1 Wrath of God
SB: 1 Nostalgic Dreams
SB: 1 Hull Breach
SB: 1 Decree of Justice
SB: 1 Life from the Loam
SB: 1 Replenish
SB: 1 Devastating Dreams
+8 Meta slots/whatever we find out is gonna be needed.

The list can easily be changed, and the numbers of each cards can go up and down easily, so don't comment on something you would play 3 of instead of 2 or something like that, thanks.

On another note, I want some people to comment on wether they think this idea is workable or not. I don't wanna spend alot of time developing a deck that might not have any potential at all. To me it seems like a good idea, but I want some more input.

- Mordenkain

I already built this deck. Its called Columbus Confinement. I already added the Replenish to the list in the board as a Burning Wish target. Going beyond that is stupid. Pandaburst combo is bad. Think of Replenish as a linchpin but not the whole construct.

Humilty + Pandaburst does not work. The tokens will come into play as 1/1's.

Creatures are terrible in this deck.

Go check out my thread.

[Mordenkain]

I rest my case. Someone lock this thread.