[Deck] Stuffed Breakfast

[Cire]

Now their are alot of new decks popping up with Doran, but i don't think this idea has ever been used before

Doran + Nomads (:0: mana targeters) + Daru spirutulist/ Taskforce = 8 million/ 8 million creature.

And we all already know what other combos the :0: mana targeters allow.

So basicly heres the preliminary deck list i came up with, or course it's untested just an idea, so it's unrefined and no mana base really

3 daru spirultulist
3 nomad en-kor
3 Doran, the seige tower
3 cephalid illionist
3 Nacromeoba
2 Tarmogoyf
1 Shaman en-kor
1 Task force
1 Suttered ghoul

4 Condem
4 Aethervial
3 Wordly Tutor
3 Living wish
3 Cabal therapy
1 Dread return
1 Nameless inversion
1 Dragon Breath

19 lands ??
1 Miren, the moaning well

SB//
1 daru spirultulist
1 nomad en-kor
1 Doran, the seige tower
1 cephalid illionist
1 Diamond valley
1 Tabernacel
1 Mother of runes
1 Whispmare
1 shreik maw
1 Task Force
1 Shaman en-kor
4 ??


Basicly its

the cephalid combo which is cephalid illionist/ nomad > mill your library dread return a huge suttered ghoul.

The infinite life combo of Nomad/ spirultulist/ condem

And the infinite damage combo of Nomad/ spirultulist/ Doran

The deck has very few ways to get around anti-combo elemnts other than having so many combos...if they block any card other nomad and shaman, you can just play around it, you can play around leyline and crypt as well. Additionally if worse comes to worse you just wish for a solution.

well the deck still needs alot of work, but im busy right now so i'll right more on it later, but any help and comments are appreciated.

[Wallace]

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Breakfest works great now, why mess with it. The idea is solid, but no reason to change a deck that already works.

[Tacosnape]

Why not simplify this immensely and just use Doran + Tireless Tribe to swing for the win?

[ReAnimated]

Why does it matter if you attack with a 26/26 or a a 8million/8million either way there dead it just seems like overkill to stuff all this combo into the deck.

[Cire]

If they attack your graveyard you can still kill them with the 8 million/ 8 million instead of the 26/26.

[Cait_Sith]

If they attack your graveyard you can still kill them with the 8 million/ 8 million instead of the 26/26.

Trample much? If they can chump block your massive dude unto infinity (or your death, or an answer [like the amazing Swords to Plowshares]), then it doesn't matter HOW big it is.

Also, if they can his your graveyard when you are playing Breakfast, then you are doing something wrong.

[Nihil Credo]

Also, if they can his your graveyard when you are playing Breakfast, then you are doing something wrong.
Yeah, not burning the Leylines out of their deck with your psychic powers.

Life and Breakfast were hybridized too in Extended II, to fight graveyard hate (the format didn't have Abeyance, but it didn't have Leyline either). The strategy was successful and won several PTQs.

There are a few things I'd like to comment on here:

1) Nameless Inversion is not a creature (it has Tribal subtypes, which are the same as creature subtypes, but that doesn't make it a creature), and thus can't be fetched with Tutor/Call, which I assume was the only reason to include it.

2) Starlit Sanctum > Miren. I know Miren can sac any creature, but when are you going to have four mana available to do that?

3) Daru Spiritualist can't be Needled, so there's no theoretical need to play Task Force. However, Task Force can work as Spiritualist 4-7, so you should keep it in mind during testing.

4) I think the numbers on Doran and Tarmogoyf should be reversed, for a few reasons:
4a) Without the infinite-toughness combo, Doran is just a worse beater than Tarmogoyf.
4b) Tarmogoyf pumps Sutured Ghoul, Doran does not (its ability only affects combat damage, not a creature's actual power). If you can't get one of your Tarmogoyfs in your graveyard for whatever reason, then your Sutured Ghoul may not be lethal in one swing.

5) The wishboard needs some fixing:
5a) I know Evoke is cool, but with access to Aether Vial you should just play Harmonic Sliver over Whispermare.
5b) Having both Task Force and Daru Spiritualist is probably a waste of one slot
5c) Same thing, except on the two En-Kor. If there's a Needle in play, just fetch Harmonic Sliver instead.
5d) Diamond Valley should be Starlit Sanctum. It costs one mana more to operate, but if your manabase is being attacked being able to tutor an extra land can be vital.

[Cire]

Thanks for the help Nihil


on your coments though:

1) Nameless Inversion was included and it gives +1 to suttered ghoul for each tarmogoyf you remove. I didnt want to include another goyf but instead more removal.

2) I agree with starlite sactum, 4 mana is a little tough to come by.

3) The Taskforce is their just in case a spiriltulist gets extripated, Or a chalice for 2 comes out before I get into play.

4) This is a good point and i will change them next list.

5) the Sb was thrown together on the spot, i geuss a more complete one would probably follow your suggestion but with shriekmaw since IMO its better than bone shreader

[Cire]

In order to get better search my friends recommended to me survival of the fittest, so i put that in, and we decided to put some more combo and synergies into the deck just for fun.

Deck
3 Narcomeba
3 Nomad En-Kor
2 Volrath's Shapeshifter
2 Cephalid illusionist
2 Tarmogoyf
1 Phage, the untouchable
1 sutured ghoul
1 Daru Spiritualist
1 Doran, the siege tower
1 Children of Korlis
1 Genesis
-18

4 Condemn
4 Survival of the fittest
4 Aether Vial
3 Cabal therapy
3 Living Wish
2 Sylvan Library
1 Dragon Breath
1 Dread Return
- 22

1 Starlit Sanctum
19 Other.
-20


the Volrath's Shapeshifter is there not only to be anti removal (they kill a creature and you just copy it) but also for the phage combo from full English breakfast. The Sylvan library provides card quality, and also combos with genesis and children of korlis to allow me to draw 3 every turn. The children and Genesis by themselves allow me to take away my opponents aggro step. The 3 previous combos are still in the deck as well.

Basically this deck is a lot of fun to play, its like survival but instead of slowly controlling the board and trying to gain supremacy or board position your throwing combo after combo after combo in front of your opponent.

You can also play the beatdown role with Doran and Goyf, Genesis can help out in the long game, and your combo pieces like Condemn can act as removal.

The Side Board Still needs a lot of of work.

[Cait_Sith]

Sutured Ghoul is not going to get very big in this deck. I think you really want a 3rd Goyf because, even as 6/7s, that means your Ghoul will be 12 + what ever else you remove (remember Doran's actual power is 0 no matter where he is, so he cannot add to Ghoul.)

I would cut the Doran par tall together and use the space to add in two more Tarmogoyfs, then try to work on Survival-Breakfast.

[Cire]

well in that build ghoul could be

+3 (Narcomeba)
+3 (Nomad En-Kor)
+2 (Cephalid illusionist)
+12 (Tarmogoyf)
+4 (Phage, the untouchable)
+1 (Daru Spiritualist)
+1 (Children of Korlis)
+4 (Genesis)

and dragon breath

ghoul could be
31/30

off course it would usually be smaller but with even only 1 goyf in the grave, the other removed from the game whatever, ghoul could still be lethal.

And yeah this deck is becoming more of a mix between survival and breakfast, and I'm starting to be unsure of Doran's place in the deck. But still He's a win condition by himself (5/5) and he can create an infinity/infinity creature, all this just for only one place in the deck.

Adding 2 more Goyfs would actually be a good idea but outside Doran what else could be removed?

[HdH_Cthulhu]

Lol it would be funny if your opp misdircet your Dread return on phage!:laugh:

[APriestOfGix]

Trample much? If they can chump block your massive dude unto infinity (or your death, or an answer [like the amazing Swords to Plowshares]), then it doesn't matter HOW big it is.


So you think giving you opponit 8million life is an answer!?!?!?

man Cait_Sith you are one loco kid...

[Cait_Sith]

So you think giving you opponit 8million life is an answer!?!?!?

man Cait_Sith you are one loco kid...

Ummm. They don't gain 8 million life. Your power is still ONE. Just because you assign toughness for combat damage does NOT change your power. You would gain 1 life off having Daru hit by Swords.

[Cire]

Lol, yep thats why i had to use condemns instead of swords